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Thread Number: 49758
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Post# 718919 12/2/2013 at 21:02 (3,795 days old) by chetlaham  (United States) |
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 Im looking to buy a new dishwasher for a daily driver. So far Ive come across 2 models that I think look well built and might clean. What do you guys think or recommended from your knowledge and experience?
https://secure5.whirlpool.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=11263&initialSKU=MDB8959SBS
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| Post# 718920 , Reply# 1 12/2/2013 at 21:12 (3,795 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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based on what I read I lean toward the Maytag. The warranty seems better and overall, it seems less complicated to use. | ||
| Post# 718924 , Reply# 2 12/2/2013 at 22:38 (3,795 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Miele | ||
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Post# 718926 , Reply# 3 12/2/2013 at 22:42 (3,795 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 718961 , Reply# 4 12/3/2013 at 07:14 (3,795 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Miele | ||
| Post# 718968 , Reply# 5 12/3/2013 at 08:00 (3,795 days old) by stchuck (Winfield, il.) | ||
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I vote for the miele for wash performance Having owned three, the last one being the dimension, and also having owned a GE as well as Whirlpool, Jenn-air, and Bosch there is no comparison. As far as drying I don't pay all that close of attention because its not that important to me but I think it was fine. | ||
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Post# 718970 , Reply# 6 12/3/2013 at 08:07 (3,795 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Miele has a non heated air flow drying system to reduce the amount of steam in the tub... | ||
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Post# 718971 , Reply# 7 12/3/2013 at 08:09 (3,795 days old) by RE563 (Fort Worth, Texas) |
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I'd have to say | ||
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Post# 719197 , Reply# 9 12/4/2013 at 10:04 (3,794 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Tanks all! I have a question though, is more water usage better? The jet clean cycle on the Maytag automatically defaults to 12.7 gallons without options, with options the manual says adds more water heat and time and that's assuming no soil is detected, so Im guessing the machine can do 14 gallons alone with no soil. Even more with... :D The Miele however only uses 6.3 gallons worst case, in addition to that it looks like this machine also pulls off the gross one rinse syndrome since the cycle chart looks bland. The Maytag from the looks of it cleans better, as apposed to the Miele.
Is my thinking right? | ||
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Post# 719203 , Reply# 10 12/4/2013 at 10:41 (3,794 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Well, now. The Miele will give you perfect results whatever it uses. EU DW use only about 6-9 gallons each cycle since the 90s. And the single rinse syndrom may occur on the label programm, but when ever else, it is most likely will do one not heated and one heated rinse with rinse agent. I can only advise you to get either a Bosch or a Miele... | ||
| Post# 719216 , Reply# 11 12/4/2013 at 11:29 (3,794 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
I have a recomendation, at Best Buy, you can get a older Whirlpool style dishwasher. With the 3 level wash system, here it is. Its not the crappy kind of one wash arm system. Its the three level tower wash system, I just got this exact one.
Best dishwasher we have ever owned. Plus, it was not too expensive. I would stay away from brand new Whirlpool products. I heared that the control panels can catch on fire. Plus the new ones have so many issues. 
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Post# 719231 , Reply# 12 12/4/2013 at 12:57 (3,794 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Thanks but no thanks That machine may have 3 levels of wash but it has no real filter, no chopper, close to half a gallon of water remains in the sump, it has no thermal holds, no sani rinse, its loud, no extra dry, no sound shielding, has only 2 1.3 gallon rinses unlike the Maytag which can get much more. Dura wash isn't the point voyager wash system. I have used Dura wash before and it just isn't what Im looking for. It cleans better than a GE, but still I found food particles left over. Dura wash is more targeted towards builder and contractors so they can claim the property they are selling/remodeling has a dishwasher. If that was a Powerclean module I would though. | ||
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Post# 719282 , Reply# 13 12/4/2013 at 18:58 (3,793 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Choice of two New DWs
I would get the Maytag hands down, much larger inside, MUCH more durable and best of all it is reasonably priced, remember if you buy the Miele you may have to face an $800 repair in the first 5 years like one of my customers recently did, she pulled the plug and replaced it with a MT like you are considering and she said other than the fact she can now hear the soft sounds of her dishes being washed, the MT is better in all other respects.
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Post# 719292 , Reply# 14 12/4/2013 at 20:05 (3,793 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Drying I love my Miele for the way it gets everything so spotlessly clean. It may take longer to get the job done than my ISE/KA 22 series clone did, but the results are consistently superior, and it's nearly silent during the whole process.
I can't give the same sort of praise when it comes to drying. It's the worst at drying and leaves more water in cup bottoms than any dishwasher I've ever used.
I typically run it at night. The next morning I may grab a clean mug or bowl out of it first thing, and in one instance I closed it back up and waited until later in the day to unload it. What I found inside was a bunch of sweaty dishes. Now I make it a point to open the door after it has completed its full cycle and leave it propped open for a while so things can actually dry.
I can't seem to win. The Thundering Thermador was horrible at cleaning, but it dried better than any machine I've ever used. The Miele is just the opposite, but at least I can compensate for the poor drying. It's still a wonderful machine in all other respects.
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Post# 719304 , Reply# 15 12/4/2013 at 21:04 (3,793 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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A lot of people seem to run their dishwashers over night. I never do this. For me, when an appliance has finished, I unload it. Leaving dishes (or laundry) in there would like leaving the car in the driveway the engine running. Therefore, drying isn't a big issue in the Bosch. I crack the door open when the cycle is done, wait five minutes for the dishes to cool off and even plastic items are dry.
I can see, though, how dishes can become wet if one leaves the door shut as most European dishwashers have practically no vent to release humidity from the tub. | ||
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Post# 719325 , Reply# 16 12/4/2013 at 23:51 (3,793 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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I've learned to run the Miele early enough so I can shut it off and leave the door open at about a 60 degree angle overnight. Cup bottoms are mostly dry in the morning.
In addition, the operating instructions advise that even though the "End" light may be lit, the machine is still using energy. To what extent I don't know, but that's another reason I run it early enough so I can shut it off completely before bed.
The cold sweaty dishes were a result of going to bed before the machine was finished, leaving it closed up tight overnight, and not emptying it until later the next day. | ||
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Post# 719398 , Reply# 18 12/5/2013 at 11:10 (3,793 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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LG: If not for their dismal reliability record, I'd recommend an upper-end LG. Mine served me well for five years of very tough use, but within the past few months the seal around the lip, the lower door seal, and the drain hose all gave out, causing leaks. The cracked drain hose caused substantial floor damage (see my photo in the "New GE On Order" thread). As much as I loved the performance of my LG, I certainly can't recommend one.
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Post# 719404 , Reply# 19 12/5/2013 at 11:22 (3,793 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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Take your dishes to the store | ||
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Post# 719416 , Reply# 20 12/5/2013 at 12:30 (3,793 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Paul: Very good advice! I have standard 10-1/2 inch Buffalo China restaurant plates which fit any machine. However, I have a couple of tall stock pots and a huge Rubbermaid 7-gallon container that I usually take along to see if they fit. Wasn't able to do that with the GE, but I'm hoping the lower rack will accommodate them with the upper rack still in its lowest position.
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| Post# 719436 , Reply# 21 12/5/2013 at 13:38 (3,793 days old) by DigAPony () | ||
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I would get the Maytag hands down Any particular model Maytag dishwashers on the market to look for? | ||
| Post# 724335 , Reply# 23 1/1/2014 at 15:48 (3,765 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
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