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Post# 719209   12/4/2013 at 11:06 (3,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719212 , Reply# 1   12/4/2013 at 11:10 (3,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719213 , Reply# 2   12/4/2013 at 11:12 (3,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719245 , Reply# 3   12/4/2013 at 14:52 (3,767 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 719247 , Reply# 4   12/4/2013 at 15:05 (3,767 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Post# 719249 , Reply# 5   12/4/2013 at 15:08 (3,767 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Is this a 102P or the 101P? Why did Maytag change the hole pattern in the inner tub? Were they trying to improve the wash action? On, foolish me, Maytag would never try to do that as long as you could not watch it because of the "safety" lid. |
Post# 719267 , Reply# 6   12/4/2013 at 17:44 (3,767 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 719269 , Reply# 7   12/4/2013 at 18:03 (3,767 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Beautiful, just beautiful! The tub is in amazing shape!
Speaking of, I believe the 102P was the the first to receive the redesigned tub in '55. I'll have to go back and read the doctrine, but I believe that change had something to do with the spin drain. The new design has baffles of foam between the tubs along the solid sections. The baffles could hold water back, slowing down the amount of water exiting during spin off and possibly help with balancing during low spin speeds during the time the water leaves the tub. Congrats on the lovely Maytag! Ben This post was last edited 12/04/2013 at 19:44 |
Post# 719284 , Reply# 8   12/4/2013 at 19:03 (3,767 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 719294 , Reply# 9   12/4/2013 at 20:16 (3,767 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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I read stated it was to improve sediment removal on spin. The outer tub had scoops molded into it just where the solid parts of the inner tub are and you are right there are foam dividers and so between the two tubs this made a shoot plus sediment bowl and water would be rushed through the scoops on spin thereby effectively ejecting the sediment into the outer-outer tub.
Finally sediment free washing is in hand!
The pump turns really nicely, Chris did a nice job on this machine Thanks Chris for a super Xmas deal!!
Mikey, Cucha was having a grand old time trying to sniff out Artemis but he was home snoozing ! Cucha went everywhere while we unloaded Chester.
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Post# 719303 , Reply# 10   12/4/2013 at 21:02 (3,767 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 719314 , Reply# 11   12/4/2013 at 21:55 (3,767 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 719357 , Reply# 12   12/5/2013 at 05:35 (3,766 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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took biscuits gracefully, I should have made Artey come to work that day! But my landlady stopped by with her big dog and they both played together while Jackie and I discussed Sci-Fi she's a big fan. She gave me a book to read, a new author I haven't read. I'm sending her a copy of "The Light Fantastic"by Terry Pratchett.
Since the pump spins easy I'm taking Chester an extension cord today-- gonna juice him!
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Post# 719364 , Reply# 14   12/5/2013 at 07:26 (3,766 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 719366 , Reply# 15   12/5/2013 at 07:31 (3,766 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Forgot all about that. You see Tom that would have been alien to me as I was a solid tub GE kid. I thought holes in the tub were BIZZARE back then and couldn't get me head around the fact of how they worked- BIZZARE. But then again Schenectady was GE TOWN to the max.
Sediment free at last , thank god almighty, sediment free at last!
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Post# 719369 , Reply# 16   12/5/2013 at 07:51 (3,766 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Jon When we visit next time we will do the Westinghouse test and a add a cup of black river sand to the loads in the GE combo, the Duomatic, The new Maytag and The 57 Control Tower, I think we will not be surprised at the results and this will likely be the order of the winning performance.
Happy Holidays to you and your new Maytag. John L. |
Post# 719370 , Reply# 17   12/5/2013 at 07:59 (3,766 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Tom - The foam is more of strips that line the edge of the top of the non-holed area, certainly along the top of the tub. I'm either imagining it or recalling actual memory, but I could of swore the foam strips also when down along the edges to the bottom of the tub as well.
I took one of these apart once but I don't remember if I fully pulled the inner tub, or saw a picture of it somewhere in the doctrine. When you do pull the tubs you can see the top of the foam. I took photos of it a long time ago, I'll see if I can find them again when I gain access to my computer. Jon - thanks for clarifying things! Ben |
Post# 719371 , Reply# 18   12/5/2013 at 08:13 (3,766 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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I love Jackie! Thanks for the picture.
My Aunt Dusty( who, I think, still lives about 10 miles away from you in Lexington) had a Maytag like this one where the water level was controlled by that plunger under the lid but it had a newer backsplash like one on an A700. What year did they switch over to the conventional lid, agitator and pressure switches? |
Post# 719372 , Reply# 19   12/5/2013 at 08:33 (3,766 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Ken - good questions.
The washer your aunt had was a 140. Introduced in 1956, it was the first of the TOL center dial machines. Quite a looker if you ask me. In late 1957, the 140 AMP washer was dropped for the new Helical drive designed 141. The 141 kept the top and lid assembly of the 140 (with a revised panel), but utilized a traditional panel mounted pressure switch. The lid assembly still had a mercury switch in it to light the tub and to shut the machine off when the lid was raised. In the summer of 1958 they went to the single piece lid with the nylon ball hinges. Ben |
Post# 719373 , Reply# 20   12/5/2013 at 08:50 (3,766 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719377 , Reply# 21   12/5/2013 at 09:07 (3,766 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 719386 , Reply# 22   12/5/2013 at 09:47 (3,766 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 719405 , Reply# 23   12/5/2013 at 11:26 (3,766 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719407 , Reply# 24   12/5/2013 at 11:43 (3,766 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 719509 , Reply# 25   12/5/2013 at 20:36 (3,766 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719510 , Reply# 26   12/5/2013 at 20:38 (3,766 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719550 , Reply# 27   12/6/2013 at 07:26 (3,765 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719651 , Reply# 29   12/6/2013 at 19:08 (3,765 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 719658 , Reply# 30   12/6/2013 at 19:56 (3,765 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719741 , Reply# 31   12/7/2013 at 09:39 (3,764 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 719743 , Reply# 32   12/7/2013 at 09:54 (3,764 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 719794 , Reply# 33   12/7/2013 at 14:58 (3,764 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 719876 , Reply# 34   12/8/2013 at 03:44 (3,764 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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do I see a slight bulge at the bottom where the sediment collects? So I'm guessing since the foam covers the top of the hole sections that forces ALL the water in the tub to shoot up the open sections making a sediment jet on spin. Maytagganation Rocks! I can't wait to get Chester into service!
Neat shot THANKS BEN!!
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Post# 719879 , Reply# 35   12/8/2013 at 05:13 (3,763 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 719909 , Reply# 36   12/8/2013 at 10:13 (3,763 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Here is the Doctrine on the tub: It is not in Doctrine per say but is in the Supplementation Text:
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Post# 719910 , Reply# 37   12/8/2013 at 10:14 (3,763 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 719933 , Reply# 38   12/8/2013 at 12:48 (3,763 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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This probably would have helped somewhat with the serious sediment redepositing they had with their early washers. I have always felt that MT really tried to make their appliances perform better, last longer and made them easier to service the longer they built them.
Their biggest problem was when they initially brought out a new appliance design it was usually much less well throughout and tested than appliances from Whirlpool, GE, Frigidaire and even Westinghouse. Serious design, perform ace and durability flaws existed in their Helical drive washers and the SOH dryers that went unfixed for decades, but they did eventually fix them, Yay. John L. |
Post# 719961 , Reply# 39   12/8/2013 at 15:23 (3,763 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 720007 , Reply# 40   12/8/2013 at 19:50 (3,763 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 720406 , Reply# 41   12/10/2013 at 16:34 (3,761 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)   |   | |
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Post# 720413 , Reply# 42   12/10/2013 at 17:12 (3,761 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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