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| Post# 720342 12/10/2013 at 10:32 (3,782 days old) by ukbusdude () | ||
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Does the Hotpoint WMD 960 have a pre-wash function? I've had this model of washing machine for over 6 years now & have never found an option for pre-wash. 
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| Post# 720408 , Reply# 1 12/10/2013 at 16:37 (3,782 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 720509 , Reply# 2 12/11/2013 at 05:48 (3,782 days old) by ukbusdude () | ||
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My partner is a chef so always brings home dirty uniform to wash so I've always had to put them on a "Super Wash" option to give them a long wash. So, what did you buy when you sold your 1400 Hotpoint? | ||
| Post# 720515 , Reply# 3 12/11/2013 at 06:52 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
As I mentioned in another thread, my brother has the same machine - his is 2 years old and it's now on repair 6. It's had a 2 new interlock's, a PCB replacement, a motor replacement and 2 new seals. Thankfully, these were all done under warranty.
I didn't realise it didn't have a pre-wash option. That's pretty shocking for a TOL machine. I've only ever used pre-wash on curtains to get the dust off before the main wash. If you wash at the correct temperature with a decent biological powder, you shouldn't have a problem keeping things white. After all, none of us had a problem keeping things white with 50 minute wash cycles on our old Hoover, Hotpoint and Servis automatics and 8-12 minute washing in twin tubs, did we? | ||
Post# 720522 , Reply# 5 12/11/2013 at 07:38 (3,782 days old) by henene4  (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Panasonic would be a choice. Has a pre-wash and washes perfektly! We got the NA148VG4.BUT I'd rather get the NA168VG4 (1600rpm instead of 1400rpm)... | ||
| Post# 720524 , Reply# 6 12/11/2013 at 08:00 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Andy,
It certainly is a lot of repairs, but bear in mind they do have 3 kids under 6 so they have a LOT of washing to do. I don't collect washing machines - I don't have the room. I have a Miele W562 washing machine that I absolutely wouldn't part with. My only grumble about it is that it only does 2 rinses as standard and you have to select "Water Plus" to get 3. Other than that, it's near perfect. I have had a fair amount of experience of using both modern and vintage machines over the years though. In terms of modern machines, you'd be safe with Miele, Bosch/Siemens and AEG. The higher end Beko machines are proving to be very high performing machines, especially the 9kg model with the chrome door (linked). I've heard a lot of good things about the new Hotpoint range with the round doors, but of course, cannot yet comment on reliability. They do feel a lot more solid than the last series though. LG are also a good contender. Of course, what's right for one user might not be right for someone else. It all depends on what you want in terms of drum capacity, spin speed, cycle length, load options and how much you want to spend etc. But if I had to go out tomorrow and buy a new machine, Miele aside, I'd happilly own the Beko in the link I attached. The one thing I will say, is avoid Hoover/Candy machines. I've seen nothing but poor reviews on them and it's not uncommon for machines to be written off after 18 months with bearing failure. CLICK HERE TO GO TO AquaCycle's LINK | ||
| Post# 720525 , Reply# 7 12/11/2013 at 08:04 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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If you're wanting something high end, I'd HIGHLY recomend Miele...
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| Post# 720526 , Reply# 8 12/11/2013 at 08:08 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Or something a little more mid-range in the form of a Bosch Exxcel.
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| Post# 720529 , Reply# 9 12/11/2013 at 08:13 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Of, if you're wanting a bargain, there's the TOL 7KG Beko at £259. My boyfriend is getting this machine in January at my recomendation.
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| Post# 720531 , Reply# 11 12/11/2013 at 08:29 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I like the look of the Beko & the Miele
Beko and Miele are the opposite end of the market, but both are good choices.
Beko seem to be a bit like pre-Indesit Hotpoints in that they're not the absolute best machines on the market, but very unfussy, simple to use, use plenty of water and are VERY easy to repair and cheap on parts should anything go wrong. My best friend bought a 1200rpm 5kg low end Beko for £190 5 years ago. She has 2 children (5 & 3) and so far, the machine is been fantastic. Washes well and it's not gone wrong *touch wood*. For the price, you really can't go wrong with them. Miele, on the other hand, are a very premium brand. Their machines feature a stainless steel drum and outer tub, top qulity suspension, wash sensors that adjust according to load size, plenty of cycle options and they're tested to last for 20+ years. | ||
| Post# 720532 , Reply# 12 12/11/2013 at 08:35 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Andy, it would be really helpful to know what you look for in a new machine. Everyone has different preferences. Are you looking for a large drum capacity, fast spin, fast wash times, reliability, energy efficiency, noise level?
For me, I would rather have a machine that washes well and is reliable over a machine that has a massive drum or a fast spin. My Miele is a 6kg, 1300rpm spin (which is relatively low by modern standards) but it washes flawlessly every time and it's a very reliable brand. My Mum, on the other hand, wanted a fast spin, quite machine with quick wash options, so she got a Zanussi Jetsystem 1600. It' a great machine (it's from the last range of Zanussi's - the new range are dreadful!) | ||
| Post# 720537 , Reply# 14 12/11/2013 at 08:56 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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AEG/Electrolux, any idea how good they might be?
AEG are now pretty much what Zanussi were about 6 years ago. The quality of both brands has seriously dropped in recent years, but AEG are still pretty good. However, I don't think the machine you get with an AEG really reflects the high price tag. The lower machines can be quite whiney on the spin too. They are good machines though.
The great thing about the Miele is that you can pretty much customise the cycle - water useage, spin speed, cycle length are all variable for all the main cycles. The "water plus" button can be customised to: - increased water levels in the main wash, rinses and an extra rinse - just an extra rinse - increased water levels in the main wash only - increased water levels in the rinse only I have mine set to do just an extra rinse as the sensors in the machine increase the water level anyway, if needed, but I like the machine to do all 3 rinses. I've never used the wool wash on my Miele, but I do use the delicate cycle. It's really good; very deep water levels and lots of agitation, which causes clothes to move through the water rather than around the drum. | ||
| Post# 720543 , Reply# 16 12/11/2013 at 09:13 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Sounds like you've got plenty of options there to look into, Andy :).
I'd deffo recommend Bosch/Siemens. I have a Siemens IQ300 dishwasher and it's flawless. Rob (Aquarius84) or Paul (matchboxpaul) might be able to give you some more info regarding Bosch washers as they have/had one of the current models. I got to see it in action and it was a great machine, but Rob or Paul will be able to give you more info on cycles and programming etc. I'll give one of them a nudge. Happy shopping!! | ||
| Post# 720544 , Reply# 17 12/11/2013 at 09:39 (3,782 days old) by ukbusdude () | ||
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Ok cheers And this is my first time joining the forum & very good so far. I'm having lots of fun & still trying to find lots of pics of washing machines from the 70's 80's & 90's. | ||
| Post# 720545 , Reply# 18 12/11/2013 at 09:53 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Glad to hear it - welcome to the site :).
What machines, in particular, are you looking for images of? There's plenty of snaps in the archives, but if you're after anything specific, just shout up. No doubt one of us will have a picture of the machine you're looking for. There's lots of video's on YouTube of old machines too. | ||
| Post# 720547 , Reply# 20 12/11/2013 at 10:08 (3,782 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Speaking of Panasonic, here is a possible contender, based on your requirements. Seems like a good price on paper and comes with a 5 year warranty. I've not used one, so I can't comment on the performance.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO AquaCycle's LINK | ||
| Post# 720549 , Reply# 22 12/11/2013 at 10:13 (3,781 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 720550 , Reply# 23 12/11/2013 at 10:15 (3,781 days old) by ukbusdude () | ||
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Hi there henene4. which washing machine are you referring to? | ||
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Post# 720551 , Reply# 24 12/11/2013 at 10:18 (3,781 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Depending in detergent: Most likeley yes, their sucked up by the load. And these are not the load sensing tumbles, the load sensing is the short spin at the beginning... I would rather recomend the 1600 Modell: CLICK HERE TO GO TO henene4's LINK | ||
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Post# 720552 , Reply# 25 12/11/2013 at 10:24 (3,781 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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We have a Panasonic NA148VG4 and a AEG Lavamat L71670. By the way, if you would like to get a matching dryer, the "things we lost in the dryerfire" times would be over with the Panasonic heatpump dryer. Don't have the dryer, but I only heard good things about them ;) | ||
| Post# 720553 , Reply# 26 12/11/2013 at 10:27 (3,781 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 720558 , Reply# 27 12/11/2013 at 11:13 (3,781 days old) by ukbusdude () | ||
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Oh I never thought of a Panasonic washing machine And yes i always tend to go for 1600rpm if the option is there | ||
| Post# 720559 , Reply# 28 12/11/2013 at 11:15 (3,781 days old) by ukbusdude () | ||
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LG EcoBubble range, they any good? | ||
| Post# 720568 , Reply# 29 12/11/2013 at 12:05 (3,781 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 720585 , Reply# 31 12/11/2013 at 13:39 (3,781 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom) | ||
ukbusdude
Hello, and welcome to the forum :)
I have a 10x6 shed with 4 washing machines in, most are collection machines, I have a Hotpoint WD860G out there that I got for free and have fixed and will be selling on soon reconditioned :) I also have a 1987 Zanussi EW1007 Electricity Board Special, 1000 spi, 4.5kg drum, and a 1988(ish) Servis Sapphire Autoselect 6065 with 1300rpm and a 4.5kg drum, and a 1993(ish) Hoover Classica AC166, with 1200rpm and a 4.5kg drum. I am currently using the Hoover but will be using the Servis more as the Classica needs new brushes. Don't have any pictures yet but will get some up for you in the next few days... Not quite a garage full, but still, I have more washing machines than your average 14 year old! | ||
| Post# 720589 , Reply# 32 12/11/2013 at 13:50 (3,781 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Will look at more Which? reports
Which? are a tad more accurate than said high street retailer, but not 100%. They've been known to award 2 machines of the same series different wash results, even though the only difference is the spin speed. They do it with vacuums too and award different ratings for models that are exactly the same, but come with different tools. All very odd.
John Lewis are the best walk-in store for advice on washers. They seem to know what they're talking about, at least. But their prices can be a bit steep, so it's sometimes best to go and look at different machines in John Lewis, Currys etc and then just buy it online cheaper. If you're wanting clips of old machines, there are loads on YouTube. Here is Paul's channel to have a look through - you should be able to find some more clips from there. CLICK HERE TO GO TO AquaCycle's LINK | ||
| Post# 720610 , Reply# 34 12/11/2013 at 15:03 (3,781 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
ILFORD
l lived in Ilford, kensington gardens off the drive in the early 1980s.
I have owned a Bosch Excell 1400 and an Aqualtis 1400 which was the same as yous in as much as spins were a long drawn out affair if they happened at all, neither was a great machine as far as washing performance goes either. If I had to have a new machines I would put my money in Miele and not waist money and time on lesser brands. Gary | ||
| Post# 720620 , Reply# 36 12/11/2013 at 15:35 (3,781 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom) | ||
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| Post# 720980 , Reply# 38 12/13/2013 at 06:44 (3,780 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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most normal people in the UK don't choose pre-wash
Define "normal people". I don't think ANYBODY on this forum could be regarding as "normal", whatever the hell that is.
Pre-wash has it's uses, as I mentioned above about curtains. My mother used to use pre-wash on mine and my siblings sports kits from school to get the surface mud off before the main wash, and then the main wash would remove the stain. If Andy finds pre-wash a useful feature, then it's only natural he should want a machine that features one. Also, with regards to your recomendation, whilst I agree that the build quality and (to some extent) the performance of the new Hotpoint range is significantly better than the old range, there's no getting away from the fact that they (like some many others) now all have sealed outer tubs, meaning if anything were to get stuck betweem the drum and tub, if the heat element were to need replacing or the machine needed a bearing replacement, it would not be possible without replacing the whole tub assembly. Hotpoint/Indesit aren't alone in this, but there other brands out there who have retained the more easilly accessible and repairable split tub design. Miele, Beko and Bosch/Siemens (except Classixx machines) all have split tubs so are far easy, cheaper and more economical to repair should anything go wrong. | ||
| Post# 720981 , Reply# 39 12/13/2013 at 06:51 (3,780 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Another recomendation...
Sorry, Andy, I always forget about these. Have a look into Gorenje - you can usually find them at your local Euronics. Very high quality, reliable machines with 5 years guaruntee.
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| Post# 720986 , Reply# 40 12/13/2013 at 07:34 (3,780 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
Pre-wash | ||
| Post# 721042 , Reply# 42 12/13/2013 at 13:14 (3,779 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom) | ||
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oh! and on the mention of Gorenje, I have a Gorenje condenser dryer, its very good! thick hinge and a sturdy carcass, its very very very quiet too :) so definantly look at Gorenje washing machines | ||
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