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Post# 722832 , Reply# 1 12/24/2013 at 01:31 (3,768 days old) by rp2813  (Sannazay) |
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 Speed Queen front loaders are supposedly built to last far longer than other major brands, and the controls are analog -- two knobs, one for cycle selection and the other for wash/rinse temperature. I presume the timer is mechanical as is the case on SQ top loaders. The tub is a bit larger than the European ones at 2.8 c.f. and per the specs average water use is 14 gallons for a full cycle, which only takes 44 minutes.
They offer models with controls mounted on the rear like the average top loader (AFN50R), or on the front like most front loaders (AFN50F). The rear-control model's work surface is the same height as a standard top loader. Speed Queen's laundry line is more expensive than other major brands, but may be competitively priced against European makes. CLICK HERE TO GO TO rp2813's LINK | ||
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Post# 722847 , Reply# 4 12/24/2013 at 05:42 (3,768 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Miele
"They are not the best cleaners".
Could you explain to me on what that is based? Overhere in Europe Miele only get "A" ratings for cleaning. As for frontloaders on wooden floors, IIRC Asko have little problems with wooden floors, but every frontloader will shake more on a wooden floor than most toploaders. | ||
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Post# 722863 , Reply# 5 12/24/2013 at 07:22 (3,768 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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The problem why FL's shake more than TL's is the fact that the forces are pushing in a 90° angle to the surface instead of parallel to it. I (personally) would get a Asko because of the 220V connection and the simpler controlls. Or a semi-pro Miele because you can programm it to display only 12 programms which are then started by a push of a button. | ||
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Post# 722864 , Reply# 6 12/24/2013 at 07:27 (3,768 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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 Bud-- I know you aren't a big fan of Consumer Reports, but here's what they have to say. This information may help with your decision, given the parameters you require. Unfortunately, as you noted, Speed Queen's front-loader is not a good choice for this particular application, as it rates only Fair for vibration when installed on wooden sub-flooring. That's a shame, because it is built like a tank and has very simple controls.
If you'd like me to check with Consumer Reports on any particular brand/model not listed below, I'll gladly do that. Just request it in this thread or send me a message. This post was last edited 12/24/2013 at 09:35 | ||
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Post# 722900 , Reply# 7 12/24/2013 at 11:59 (3,768 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian) |
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"Miele only get "A" ratings for cleaning" I cannot remember any washing machine rated less than "A" for cleaning, and do you really believe that cleaning ratings have anything to do with how clean your laundry will come out of the machine? | ||
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Post# 722901 , Reply# 8 12/24/2013 at 12:05 (3,768 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 722909 , Reply# 9 12/24/2013 at 13:06 (3,768 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Front Loaders, Wooden Floors, etc...
Yes it is true that H-Axis washers are happiest on solid concrete or similar flooring, wooden ones can be strengthened to support the weight and forces of front loaders.
Another way to solve the problem is not to use very high final spin speeds. Nine hundred to one thousand rpms in either my Miele or AEG will vibrate but not nearly as bad when going into twelve to eighteen hundred. The other thing is to choose a front loader with decent to excellent out of balance controls. My AEG handles unbalanced loads better than the Miele because it tries *VERY* hard to get loads evenly balanced before spinning. The Miele will make only a limited number of attempts then simply goes to it. If the load is unbalanced you get banging, clanging and lots of vibration. Would also stick to a standard capacity FL and not one of the huge behemoths. | ||
| Post# 722916 , Reply# 10 12/24/2013 at 13:32 (3,768 days old) by washer111 () | ||
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My Previous Statement I don't mean BAD cleaning, but it is not perfect either, and there is no washer that IS perfect in its cleaning ability. Although, I have noted some saying that they are not the best cleaning machines, so it was just a cautious note. | ||
| Post# 722934 , Reply# 12 12/24/2013 at 14:57 (3,768 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 722955 , Reply# 13 12/24/2013 at 17:33 (3,768 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Jep, LG would be my choice after Asko and Miele. Probably one with TurboWash because of the 2 additional Jets. The recirculation system helps a lot at low water washing and rinsing... | ||
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Post# 722969 , Reply# 14 12/24/2013 at 19:52 (3,767 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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| Post# 722984 , Reply# 15 12/24/2013 at 21:00 (3,767 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Tl to fl | ||
| Post# 723015 , Reply# 16 12/25/2013 at 02:09 (3,767 days old) by qualin (Canada) | ||
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll certainly take all of your suggestions to heart. | ||
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Post# 723016 , Reply# 17 12/25/2013 at 02:21 (3,767 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 723091 , Reply# 18 12/25/2013 at 15:10 (3,767 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
ASKO
Would be my choice I think.
They use 4 suspension legs to start with and the drum is in a cradle rather than having the suspension attached to it which may allow more even distribution of forces and stresses through to the feet. ASKO also use stainless inner and outer drums and have the option of significantly increasing the number of rinses without having to do anything other than touch one button. However, they also tend to use more water for a given cycle than Miele, which also rinse well, at least in our market. Bud, it may well come down to which has the best back-up service and warranty deal you can score. | ||
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Post# 723114 , Reply# 19 12/25/2013 at 19:22 (3,766 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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