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Thread Number: 50090
Kitchenaid Hobart KDS-20 |
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Post# 723120 , Reply# 1 12/25/2013 at 20:49 (3,771 days old) by chachp  (North Little Rock, AR) |
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My KDS20 Did this not long ago
Mine was a pretty simple fix. The hose under the sink somehow kinked and was stopping the flow of water. Hopefully yours is as simple to fix. Also check the hose under the dishwasher. I have had those kink on other machines. If the hose under the sink got pushed at all it could also kink the hose under the dishwasher especially if it is still warm when it gets pushed.
Just a couple of things to check. Others are better qualified to help diagnose a mechanical issue with the machine not draining. I do know they will want to know if the machine is a KDS20 or a KDS20A. There is a difference in how they drain and knowing that will help them help you diagnose it. | ||
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Post# 723136 , Reply# 2 12/26/2013 at 00:24 (3,771 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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 I got a KDS-20 for free from a member here some time ago and it had the same issue when I first tested it out with the help of a knowledgeable friend. When the timer was bypassed, it drained fine. I never did anything about it, and the machine became a parts donor for a slightly newer model I acquired later.
Due to the holiday period, it may be a while before the experts show up here and offer more advice. Give this thread a bump if you don't hear anything by the end of next week.
You can purchase a copy of the service manual for most KD-20 models via the link below for $3.30. There may be differences in the timer options, but the draining function should be the same for all models. CLICK HERE TO GO TO rp2813's LINK | ||
| Post# 723158 , Reply# 3 12/26/2013 at 03:16 (3,770 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
"Snap"
During portions of each cycle you should hear a "Snap". That would be the Drain Solenoid opening to drain the machine.
If you do not hear this noise, the drain valve has issues. Remove the lower panel and check to see that the wires are still connected to the valve. As mentioned above... check the drain hose to see that it is not kinked anywhere Dr. Stevet our resident Hobart man should be around soon. | ||
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Post# 753452 , Reply# 5 4/28/2014 at 14:47 (3,647 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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17 vs. the 20 I have a 17 and I have a 20. I like them both for very different reasons. The 17 is really fast and does a great job and for me has some sentimental value. Loading can be a bit more challenging due to the lack of a spray arm under the upper rack. However, when loaded correctly you can get a lot in there and that machine has amazing water pressure and therefore cleans very well. I like the 20 because it has the great look you mentioned but it also has a more forgiving loading configuration given the spray arm under the upper rack. I don’t think the cycles are all that much longer than the 17 but there is a small difference. The link below will take you to the download section where you can find the user guides and service manuals for both. These will contain the exact cycle times. You want to download the New KitchenAid KD-20 Energy Saver V Dishwasher Service Manual. I prefer the Soak cycle on the 20 to the 17 because it sprays and “soaks” multiple times where the 17 only does once. I don’t rinse much and my dishes are generally pretty dirty. I use the soak cycle fairly often and the 20 does a great job getting them clean. I have not used a 19 so I can’t comment but I suspect any Kitchen Aid Superba of this vintage will do well for you. I think in the end though, it’s each person’s preference. For every person who agrees with my post there is likely someone who won’t. CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK | ||
| Post# 753455 , Reply# 6 4/28/2014 at 15:24 (3,647 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
The Series 17...
is my personal favorite, for the very reasons that you mention, the fast cycle time, simplicity, and nostalgia as well... we bought a KDC-17 new in 1974. As Ralph mentions, as long as the lower rack is loaded so as to not block the spray from reaching the top rack they can do a fine job. After all, these machines were highly similar to ones Hobart built for the commercial restaurant trade, they even used the same motor. We have an 18 Series that, like the 19, has the upper spray arm as well and the upper rack design is somewhat better imo. Frankly, it's hard to go wrong with any Hobart built Kitchen Aid! Have fun with those great machines lisamarie! Roger A.
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Post# 753475 , Reply# 7 4/28/2014 at 16:14 (3,647 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Black Panels for your KDS20 I don't know where you can get a set of black panels but there is someone on eBay who seems to have a thousand sets of stainless panels for your 20. If Stainless is an option for you do an eBay search for B-241677. There was just a set the other day but they may have sold it. I am sure another will pop up soon. | ||
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Post# 753498 , Reply# 8 4/28/2014 at 18:06 (3,647 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Black Front Panels For Your KDS-20 | ||
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