Thread Number: 50409
Beko Heat Pump DPU 8360W - Tangling Bedding into a ball |
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Post# 726280   1/8/2014 at 21:33 (3,758 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Ive had the dryer now nearly a year. Warranty nearly up but a question for you. When your drying bedding consisting of 4 pillow cases, fitted sheet and duvet cover I find this dryer tangles them all up into a ball... That's also with me ensuring that the buttons to the duvet are fastened so things don't go inside, they still roll into a big solid ball.
I expect the issue is because its only got 2 drum paddles or the fact the reverse tumble only lasts literally 5 seconds before going forward again. Has anyone else had this issue with any other dryer and how do you get around it? Only way I can see is to dry the sheet/duvet cover separately and then put the pillow cases in with a normal load of clothes washing? |
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Post# 726348 , Reply# 1   1/9/2014 at 04:34 (3,757 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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This always happens to me when you only dry JUST bedding in one load regardless of whatever reversing/uni directional dryer i may be using.
Remember that your Hoover takes 4kg and the Beko 8kg so really you ought to be putting 2 loads worth into the Beko. Always mix a duvet cover with lots of smaller items and it shouldnt happen. So maybe save wash day until you can get 2 loads washed and into the dryer for the same cycle, should solve the issue completely. Shirts, t shirts and other similar fabric mixed with bedding should be good to go. |
Post# 726355 , Reply# 2   1/9/2014 at 05:51 (3,757 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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It always happens to me also in my Bosch which does not reverse at all. I go crazy!
It happens also if I do a mixed load. It's even worst because the small pieces ends up inside the "ball" and they get even more wrinkled. So I ended up line drying for a period of time and than when the duvet or sheets are still damp but not completely wet I put them in the dryer. When damp there is less "friction" on the fabric and everything tumbles more freely. |
Post# 726423 , Reply# 5   1/9/2014 at 12:27 (3,757 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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In the 18 months i've owned my BOL Indesit dryer I've only once had bedding roll into a ball, this was my fault for not shaking the load out. My dryer has two paddles also but they are wave shaped and off set from each other so as to move the load in a figure of eight movement, this coupled with reverse tumbling for equal amounts of time ensures fast even drying.
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Post# 726427 , Reply# 6   1/9/2014 at 13:15 (3,757 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Most dryers reverse even for a short time... but Bosch/Siemens! Has any1 ever tried to complain to Bosch/Siemens for the lack of reverse action in the dryers and obtained a response? I'd be really curious to hear it... there must be some valid philosophy behind...
@gorenje, does yours run the entire cycle revolving in 1 direction... or does it occasionally stop and carries on in the same direction? |
Post# 726446 , Reply# 8   1/9/2014 at 14:35 (3,757 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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I have one of these infamous BSH dryers and have found that I can dry pretty much anything BUT large, lightweight items. For the past couple of weeks, I have dried fitted sheets alongs with towels and other small items (underwear) in one load and didn't have problems. Sure, some stuff like wash cloths will get caught in a fitted sheets, but that's to be expected. Also loads of just bedding (pillow cases + duvet covers) dry without problems, as long as it's not that lightweight microfibre stuff from non-reversing dryer hell. This stuff balls up no matter what. Dryer balls don't do nothing.
I have found that larger loads are less likly to ball up, simply because itmes don't have enough room to tangle. Alex CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK |
Post# 726463 , Reply# 9   1/9/2014 at 15:47 (3,757 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Thanks guys for addressing the BSH mystery.
So, the stopping and starting of the drum together with some loading tricks would... well... do the trick! Personally I don't take any particular measure to load the dryer, however, I always shake open item by item as I'm taking them out of the washer... this takes me to my next point... I don't mean to hijack this thread and I apologise in advance if I'm slightly doing so... it's just a little thought I had for a while and it didn't seem worth starting a new blog for it... and now all this talk about the lacking of such a popular feature in dryers reminds me of the lack of another popular feature on washing machines: I'm talking about the anti-crease soft disposal tumbles that all front loading washers do at the end of the cycle... whereas modern Hoover/Candy washers don't include in their programs (but on delicates briefly). I'm intrigued here by reverse phsycology, having also used non-Hoover/Candy washers, I've noticed no difference in the outcome (apart from the shaking described above): so there I am questioning the usefulness of this added phase... um... maybe I should start a new thread :-P |
Post# 726464 , Reply# 10   1/9/2014 at 15:53 (3,757 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 726513 , Reply# 11   1/9/2014 at 18:34 (3,757 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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My Bosch dryer occasionally stops for a few seconds but than carries on in the same direction.
I have a model without the conus on the back of the drum. But my father has a brand new heat pump Bosch dryer with the conus added on the back of the drum, but there is no difference in tangling. Its tangles like mine does. |
Post# 726519 , Reply# 12   1/9/2014 at 19:00 (3,757 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Thanks for the comments and suggestions guys.
I think what I am going to do is wash the duvet cover pillow cases and fitted sheet separatly and then do a normal clothes wash. I will then place all this into the dryer at the same time apart from the fitted sheet as it seems the fitted sheet and the elastic is what causes it to ball up. The fitted sheet can go in last on its own I don't think will take long to dry this. The problem with a heat pump dryer is that it takes a long time for the heat to build up inside due to how the technology works as it isn't instant heat due to not using heating elements. So opening the door (which the manual says not to do during cycle) releases the build up of mild heat. It dries at a lower temperature as well. So starting the cycle again means that it has to then build the heat back up. I could even put the fitted sheet over the door during the first drying cycle so it gets a head start. From research online people seem to say it is the fitted sheet that is the culprit. Ive put mixed loads in before with the fitted sheet and its just balled up all the same so drying the sheet on its own is the only thing I haven't tried yet. I will report back :) |
Post# 726622 , Reply# 13   1/10/2014 at 04:56 (3,756 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 726644 , Reply# 14   1/10/2014 at 07:46 (3,756 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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As may have been observed from one of the other threads I have had one of these too, for just over a year. I think the balling of the sheets must be as a result of the elasticated edges, I cannot recall too much of a problem with duvet covers although I usually dry bed lines on the line if I can - not much recently though with all the wet weather we have been having. Usually when I am frying sheets & duvet covers in the dryer I will open it up half way just to check if things are being tangled.
I was surprised though when I used my 1980 vintage Philips 162 dryer (as I have done a few times) for, although it is not a reversing dryer, it does not seem to ball and tangle up the clothes very much - really not much more than the reversing dryers I have had in recent years Al |
Post# 726763 , Reply# 15   1/10/2014 at 17:57 (3,756 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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I have a 3 year old vented hotpoint. It spends a few minutes turning in one direction then a few minutes in the other direction and I've never had a problem with tangling. I did have a condenser white knight dryer that I had to get rid of after a year as it used to tangle everything esp bedding. It would only reverse for a few seconds.
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Post# 726773 , Reply# 16   1/10/2014 at 18:22 (3,756 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 726946 , Reply# 17   1/11/2014 at 11:41 (3,755 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 726949 , Reply# 18   1/11/2014 at 11:46 (3,755 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 727655 , Reply# 19   1/14/2014 at 08:34 (3,752 days old) by zodawash (Lincolnshire,United Kingdom)   |   | |
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My Lg dryer does the same thing, all bedding in a huge tight ball. Same prob I had with a vented beko I used to own and the white knight and the Hoover.
The only dryer i've had that didn't do it was my Hotpoint/Indesit which doesn't do short reverse tumbles like most dryers do. There appear to be few that do true reverse tumbles but that is something Indesit got right. I just take the bedding out halfway through give it a shake out and untangle etc and then back in. It's a pain but the only way to dry it in a machine like these. Steve |
Post# 727730 , Reply# 21   1/14/2014 at 18:54 (3,752 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727751 , Reply# 22   1/14/2014 at 20:53 (3,752 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Same with my Siemens - I have it set to Cupboard Dry + 1, which adds five minutes to the heating cycle after the clothes have reached the set dryness level.
Did four loads today (two for the washer but four for the dryer): - towels, fitted sheets and some small items like underwear etc. -> one small towel got caught in a sheet but everything came out fine otherwise - first batch of cotton bedding (two pillow covers and two duvet covers) -> no tangling - second batch of heavier covers -> some tangling but everything was dry... and wrinkled - third batch of lightweight covers -> didn't even take a minute to roll into a ball. Pointless. Seems the problem is that the fabric gets sucked onto the lint filter and stays there, while the drum twists it into a rope. Video to follow. |
Post# 727788 , Reply# 23   1/15/2014 at 05:24 (3,751 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)   |   | |
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Richard, I use the normal dry setting, which is between cupboard dry and extra dry. Jon |
Post# 728084 , Reply# 24   1/16/2014 at 13:37 (3,750 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Well seems I struck it lucky as having read all the above and never having experienced a "balling up" event in my AEG Protex Dryer I though it best to see what it actually does...I like to dry things seperately and never seem to have more than 2-3 kg's in my allegedly 9kg dryer so that things can tumble/move around properly. It does have a "Bedlinen" setting which I add 2 "+'s" to to get it fully dried. It tumbles clockwise for 1 min and then reverses for 30 seconds... thus seemingly being more than adequate to avoid balling up. The other settings (save the wool and gentle) tumble clockwise only. Oh btw that's with drying a super king fitted sheet, flat sheet and 2 pillowcases - which according to comments should be really good candidates for balling....my E-Lux/AEG's may not have the german old school build quality anymore (faultless operation 15 months sofar but still early days) however still seem to have AEG intelligence.
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Post# 728090 , Reply# 25   1/16/2014 at 14:08 (3,750 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 729294 , Reply# 27   1/21/2014 at 06:04 (3,745 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Well the results are back... drying without the fitted sheet in means no tangled bedding.
I don't have enough washing to put two loads in on bedding day as the darks takes up the full load and there isn't that many whites so I do try to put as much in as I can. The fitted sheet was put over the door to air dry while the dryer was on then the sheet put in on its own for half hour after to dry off. Works fine :) |
Post# 729885 , Reply# 28   1/23/2014 at 13:39 (3,743 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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