Thread Number: 50436
I found some Royalty in 'The Pile'... |
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Post# 726598   1/10/2014 at 03:03 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726599 , Reply# 1   1/10/2014 at 03:07 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726600 , Reply# 2   1/10/2014 at 03:10 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726603 , Reply# 3   1/10/2014 at 03:14 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726604 , Reply# 4   1/10/2014 at 03:16 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726606 , Reply# 5   1/10/2014 at 03:19 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Haven't seen one of these in a very long time! I knew it to be of royal lineage as it says it's was a 'Her Majesty' dryer!
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Post# 726608 , Reply# 6   1/10/2014 at 03:21 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726609 , Reply# 7   1/10/2014 at 03:30 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Well, here was my chance to finally see how the no tumble option worked on these. I've not really had my heart in to machines since Jacqui passed and with my dealing with a nasty case of sciatic nerve pain, I almost didn't but I had to get back onto the bike at some point so... Inside she went. I'll spare you the huge delint job I had to do. Also discovered that the idler pulley spring had popped loose so no tumble at all. We also have the big coil of the two coil heating element out. Anyway, got it tumbling again. The heater might be another story...
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Post# 726610 , Reply# 8   1/10/2014 at 03:34 (3,756 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 726611 , Reply# 9   1/10/2014 at 03:36 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Pretty cool. The no tumble function is actually the drum belt drive pulley. The motor turns one way and the pulley turns the drum belt. In 'no tumble', the motor turns the reverse direction and the pulley assembly actually disengages internally and the drum belt doesn't turn. Really cool. I wonder how that pulley assembly actually held up?
Anyway, reassembled and admired how the pulley system really worked. Then I noticed the console looked like it had a light lens. Hmmm. Then I noticed the push button switch on the side of the console. I wonder? |
Post# 726612 , Reply# 10   1/10/2014 at 03:38 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726613 , Reply# 11   1/10/2014 at 03:39 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726614 , Reply# 12   1/10/2014 at 03:42 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726615 , Reply# 13   1/10/2014 at 03:44 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 726616 , Reply# 14   1/10/2014 at 03:54 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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The dryer actually runs like one of my vintage watches. BUT, the not so good...
1) needs a heating element. The large coil's broken. Can they still be gotten? 2) the feet need reattaching. They screw into a small nut that's welded to the frame and not well at that. Using a second nut on the leg should do the trick. 3) will need a belt at some point. Sssooo... Does anyone have the matching washer and wish they had the dryer to go with it? I'm not attached to her and would be willing to adopt out another orphan to a loving home. Same for that Signature dishwasher, I don't know if it works but could be persuaded to test it for anyone who wants it or parts off it. The plastisol door liner does have some bubbles in it near the rinse aid dispenser but they are small and not ruptured yet. Speak up! Hugs, RCD |
Post# 726618 , Reply# 16   1/10/2014 at 04:03 (3,756 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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For the curious, that is a hand wound Russian 'Puljot' chronometer that was actually issued to Russian military pilots only during the late 70's to the mid 80's. With Jacqui gone, my little joys seem to be my dogs, my appliances and my vintage watches. Oh, the thread I could do just on those... Lol!
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Post# 726619 , Reply# 17   1/10/2014 at 04:08 (3,756 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 726623 , Reply# 18   1/10/2014 at 05:10 (3,756 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Great to see you "back on the bike" again.
Great Haul... That Signature Dishwasher looks exactly like Frigidaire racking and definately their Wash System for that time period. I think if I remember right, that Frigidaire was using that Wash System on the "Electri-Clean" Models back then. (1979-1981 ???) Nice to see you posting and look forward to the "Treasure Pile" in the back of the shop. |
Post# 726635 , Reply# 22   1/10/2014 at 07:00 (3,756 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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Post# 726637 , Reply# 23   1/10/2014 at 07:21 (3,756 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 726639 , Reply# 24   1/10/2014 at 07:28 (3,756 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 726640 , Reply# 25   1/10/2014 at 07:36 (3,756 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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What an interesting day you had.
I had a MW Her Majesty washer that matched this dryer, a truly beautiful machine too. 3 speeds, a dozen selector buttons and lights for all of it. It was a 1969 model and looked to be the first of the white burp-up-filter agitators, moving away from the pump recirculating style Norge had been using since 64. Mechanically, the washer was toast but I did save the panel. |
Post# 726664 , Reply# 26   1/10/2014 at 10:20 (3,756 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 726665 , Reply# 27   1/10/2014 at 10:25 (3,756 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 726686 , Reply# 29   1/10/2014 at 12:24 (3,756 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Very good to see you "get on that bike" and post again my friend!
Very neat to see inside that Norge/MW dryer, that fan sure is something! I also like the clean lines and buttons on the DW. Unfortunately not interested in either (SURPRISE! LOL) as I have no room.
It will take time Andy as "time heals all wounds" as they say. Great to see you are making those baby steps.
All the best to you! Kevin |
Post# 726688 , Reply# 30   1/10/2014 at 12:33 (3,756 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Add me to the long list of those who are happy to see a post from you again! I was just about to write and ask how you're doing, but I won't burden you with the need to reply to yet another message. I'm glad you received all of those well-wishes.
As you know, when I was a kid we had the '67 Snorge matched pair, but they were not "Her Majesty" machines. The dryer had the Stop-N-Dry feature but we never used it. Lint filter at the bottom. A LOUD end of cycle buzzer, but when I discovered it was adjustable via a screw on the back of the console, I toned it down.
It looks like the "Her Majesty" machines got an upgrade with a full-width lens for the console light. The lights on Mom's machines were about 8" wide.
Can't say I'd wish either machine on anybody. In later years, the gas dryer started making it smell like a smog alert -- inside the house. It couldn't have been healthy for my mom, who eventually developed respiratory issues.
As for the dishwasher, you and I know perfectly well that if Nate were still local, we'd be driving up to pay you a visit and fetch that machine. |
Post# 726692 , Reply# 31   1/10/2014 at 12:45 (3,756 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 726700 , Reply# 32   1/10/2014 at 13:16 (3,756 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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How's that for positive energy and karma? With such an awesome list of folks who love your pile finds, and such cool appliances to post about, everyone wanted to comment first on your return to posting. It should tell you that we all love you Andy!!
I am glad you found these, and REALLY GLAD you enjoyed playing with the dryer. I think that's the tonic you needed. May the pile soon cough up even more dandy items. In the meantime, two alumni from the pile will be quite busy this weekend as I didn't wash much laundry last weekend, and the wicked cold snap of this week had Duke energy running radio ads asking us all to conserve power and not run our major appliances if we could avoid it. I don't recall them ever doing that in the winter before. So, two pile finds from 2010 will be busy washing tomorrow. Its supposed to be a rainy day, so perfect for staying in and playing with washers. I'll keep my fingers crossed that these machines find adoptive homes so they too can be alumni of the pile! Gordon |
Post# 726769 , Reply# 33   1/10/2014 at 18:10 (3,755 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 726798 , Reply# 34   1/10/2014 at 20:33 (3,755 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 726845 , Reply# 35   1/11/2014 at 00:23 (3,755 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 726847 , Reply# 36   1/11/2014 at 00:29 (3,755 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Nah, not really, any more than they do nowadays. I had the original all-Bakelite arm from the little '69 Deluxe you found us, and the Imperial arm with the twirlie, and the washing was equivalent. But if you had your choice and it didn't hurt, wouldn't you want the mini arm, too? :-)
This wash tower was what the '69 Deluxe came with, and kicked much more butt than the tall but single-slit tower that rode on the rack with the Imperial. This one had directed jets plus a jet to wash the silverware basket, and it worked. The only bummer was losing a contiguous section of rack at the back; the rack with the fixed/bearing-mounted tower made for much more flexible loading. I love the concentric rings in the top rack that shoo dishes away, so that the stream shooting straight up from the tower could hit the spinning constant-rinse disc on the top of the machine. Considering how amazingly well the Deluxe cleaned with its basic punch-to-start-and-stand-back cycle, I'd bet the Custom Imperial/Wards Signature here would be stunning, especially with the 150-degree wash option. Sound-insulated? So, like power-washing a wooden shed instead? ;-) I think quiet operation is overrated if the sound is satisfying, like a maelstrom of kick-butt unfolding within. |
Post# 726855 , Reply# 37   1/11/2014 at 02:29 (3,755 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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On the Custom Imperials, only the top and left side of the dishwasher are insulated. The constant-rinse disc in my 1969 Custom Imperial is tired, It's loose and doesn't spin much because of the wear. The wash tower isn't fixed to the spray arm but to the lower rack but it's the one with the ball on top. It works fairly well but you have to be careful that it sits on the center of the bellow when you start the dishwasher as otherwise, it probably won't turn.
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Post# 726866 , Reply# 38   1/11/2014 at 04:52 (3,755 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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That's quite a find, Drew! Thanks for sharing all the great photos. I'd have to agree that the FrigiWards dishwasher is a low-mileage unit. They were great candidates for rust-outs. I've always thought that upper rack was odd, and wondered about the purpose of the tower of rings.
Oh--and someone should be in charge of reviving Nate! :-) As someone who covets The Silence Of The Dishwasher in his kitchen, these all-too-true comments elicited big chuckles from me: For The Win ...like power-washing a metal barn Runner-up ...like power-washing a wooden shed |
Post# 726867 , Reply# 39   1/11/2014 at 05:03 (3,755 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 726907 , Reply# 40   1/11/2014 at 10:18 (3,755 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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This is Robert & Fred's Montgomery Ward dishwasher. We had some fun with the Frigidaire demonstration door-window a couple of weeks ago. It's a cool action inside, less upward spray from the lower arm than I'd expected (this one does not have the whirly-gig) but it seems to move a lot of water and it washed the full load we did later quite well.
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Post# 727057 , Reply# 41   1/11/2014 at 20:14 (3,754 days old) by mathewhebailey0 (port arthur tx)   |   | |
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Like to see redcarpet drew post a video of the Wards dryer fan spinning with the drum out. |
Post# 727125 , Reply# 42   1/12/2014 at 04:35 (3,754 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Wouldn't that kinda like my being in the heart of the F-5 tornado? Talk about noise and having to hold on for dear life! LOL! Which, of course, means that I'm seriously entertaining the idea...
I got a chance to evaluate the Ward's dishwasher tonight. Mixed news... 1) Overall condition. There is bubbling in the door liner around the rinseaid dispenser and more so at the bottom edge of the inner door. Also a bit of it around the motor mount in the bottom of the tub. It's not thru but it is there. 2) The wash motor is SIEZED! Looks to have been weeping and totally locked up the motor bearings. 3) The controls themselves are in working condition. After a slight bit of love, the timer both rapid and normal advance is ok. The status lights are all good and the selector buttons are also in good shape after a bit of cleaning and lube. The fill valve wants to activate and the float switch assembly is also functional. 4) The racks are almost in new condition considering her age. Overall, a nice little treasure trove of parts. And a fair amount of them has been spoken for by a member here who can speak up if he wants but I will have fun in saying he lives north of the border... LOL! It was a pleasure to finally be able to put a voice with a name, kind Sir. Someday, I'll put a face with that voice! Thank you all for your kind words. I'm not kidding when I say this is like a second family. I'll start getting more into the machines after my current case of sciatic nerve pain with the accompanying clenching leg muscles is back under control. For those who have had/have this, you know the... Pain level it is. For those who have not had the dubious pleasure of knowing it, thank your stars! RCD |
Post# 727186 , Reply# 43   1/12/2014 at 12:11 (3,754 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Hi, yes that's me!! It was a pleasure talking to you! I just wish I could talk better (for those who haven't talked to me, I do not speak English very well...).
BTW, I searched to get info on AT&T rates and I found this (see "accepted solution"), I hope it applies to you!: CLICK HERE TO GO TO PhilR's LINK |
Post# 727190 , Reply# 44   1/12/2014 at 12:34 (3,754 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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No worries, Stan! You speak English better than I do sometimes, and it's my only language!
It was a pleasure to speak with you last night. I'm also pretty jazzed I have yet something else that will make someone else's wishlist come true! We'll make arrangements. Now, next on the agenda to do now that I'm slowly coming back on a resemblance of a even keel after Jacqui: take care of my friends in Oz if they haven't given up on me by now... LOL! RCD |
Post# 727906 , Reply# 45   1/15/2014 at 18:35 (3,750 days old) by kenmorewasher10 ()   |   | |
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looks like you just struck gold and by gold i mean appliance gold |
Post# 728097 , Reply# 46   1/16/2014 at 14:57 (3,750 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Score a small victory over the bane of our collective existence: SCRAPPERS!
I am off duty for a week to deal with the awesome pain level that only a sciatic nerve can cause. Last night at about eight o'clock, I was at the shop dropping off paperwork before my leave. As the shop is full of used machines to be overhauled and sold, Her Majesty had to sit outside by the back door on our property for one night. This morning, I was at the local scrapyard that our shop uses to drop off a damaged alloy rim from the Solara. As I walk around to the office to get paid, I do what I always do... Scan the pile for anything interesting. I see the back of a green dryer that I know to be a old Norge. For some reason I had this sick feeling and asked them to turn her around so I could see the front. Of course, since I had no hardhat or yellow vest, I couldn't do it myself. Sonnavabish, it was a Her Majesty. I call the shop to find out that mine was missing, having been stolen during the hours of darkness where the cameras can't see well. THANK YOU ROBERT for providing this site. I showed the people there this thread with the pics and model/serial numbers I posted on the 10th. They verified she was mine and pulled it out of the pile. Talk about pure chance of my timing. She had just been dropped off and was less than 2 minutes from being crunched. Now I get the pleasure of not only rescuing her from another pile, a uglier pile than The Pile behind our shop, but I get the pleasure of messing with some methheaded scumbag's day because as soon as I file the police report, the junkyard will supply the police with this dirtbag's vehicle picture w/license plate, his driver's license and the finger print they make us all put on their copy of the money slip that this motherless offal signed stating that she was his property and not stolen. Yes, I realize that the jerkwad will get a slap on the wrist but I don't care. It's a small but morale boosting victory. I'll get her back soon. There is paint damage on the left hand side and the top came off when dumped. I will be able to give her a close inspection as soon as I can. Guys and Gals, I finally got one back. I've had a few stolen and, FINALLY, I got one back partially due to my being a hopeless appliance geek and posting this thread with pics and info! Thanks, Robert! RCD |
Post# 728100 , Reply# 47   1/16/2014 at 15:06 (3,750 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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That's a great story! I'm glad you got one of the thieves, won't they be surprised when the police show up with a citation for unlawful taking?!
I've had more than a couple scrappers stop when they see appliances in the open garage and ask if they can haul off my garbage appliances for me. Uh.... no. Never had anything stolen, but I'm wary of leaving the garage open when I'm not out there.
There are a couple of guys that I call when I do want stuff hauled away and they usually jump and rush right over knowing my scrap weighs twice as much as most newer appliances they usually get calls on. |
Post# 728110 , Reply# 48   1/16/2014 at 15:54 (3,749 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 728113 , Reply# 49   1/16/2014 at 16:09 (3,749 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Well Andy,
I think I can imagine how you feel, I really do. Back on July 4th weekend 2009 I re-arranged my storage trailer of machines and had loaded back 21 Kenmore and Whirlpool washers and 2 dryers. I didn't re-enter the trailer for about two months, but when I did I found it completely empty. I would have loved to fry the arses of the people who violated my space... Back then we did not have the identification rules in place that we have now which will hopefully locate then stun the jerks who took Her Majesty enough that they might think twice next time, and hopefully they'll tell their fellow thieves. In my case, some of the machines I don't miss, and it may be good that the metal presumably got recycled. Others I miss, including the 4 Ladies and the 1970 500s in the middle of the photo below. SO GLAD you got her back Andy, and I agree with Greg, I think it means you're supposed to be involved in the future of that machine in some way or another. G |
Post# 728174 , Reply# 50   1/16/2014 at 21:22 (3,749 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Actually Ralph, I can't totally blame you for that but having her is better than shaving with her...
Just filed the report. After the lady at the counter got over her laughter that a grown man was complaining about having his collectable green dryer stolen but was able to identify it from pictures posted on a website dedicated to people who collect them... They will contact Western Metals to work with them and eventually get the dryer back to me so I can do a triage on the damage. Gordon, I had to call you first so you could enjoy a little Karma in action and maybe get a little closure. RCD This post was last edited 01/16/2014 at 22:48 |
Post# 728568 , Reply# 51   1/18/2014 at 16:17 (3,747 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Met the police at the metal yard. Proved that she was mine and was released to me. The jerkof most likely get hit with a petty theft charge as I could only value her at $400 and the minimum value for a misdemeanor charge is $650. Oh well. The police are going to try to tack on a fencing stolen property if they can just to add a small amount of misery to this scum.
We'll see about repair. She was dropped off and skewed the frame so nothing lines up. The left hand side paint is really scratched up badly. The chrome on the console is also bunged up but not badly. It'd be a labor of love (or vindication...). Sigh... RCD |
Post# 728580 , Reply# 52   1/18/2014 at 17:27 (3,747 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 728593 , Reply# 53   1/18/2014 at 18:32 (3,747 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Love is blind, and I mean that in the worst possible context. Tough love, however, is not.
After reading your latest post, I retract my previous statement. I now consider this a classic case of aggravation and waste of time and energy in true Snorge style.
Perhaps the powers that be are trying to tell you this dryer is destined to reincarnate as a Yugo -- or whatever the modern day equivalent would be. |
Post# 728644 , Reply# 54   1/18/2014 at 22:25 (3,747 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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But I dunno what I'll do. Let's face it. Each and everyone of us has at one time or another (or more than that...) come face to face with something that just asks to be saved, even though you really do know better. Sometimes you get rewarded by it just coming together and purring. Other times, you have to beat your head against the spiked rock wall before you give into the inevitable.
Kinda like people, too. LOL! Anyhow, I'm not sure I was going to ever keep her and save her or pass her on to a possible loving home. At the very least, I was going to video that huge 747 turbofan like blower for fun. Meanwhile, if people need any parts, I'll entertain it as she may have been turned from Royalty to donor by this abduction. RCD |
Post# 728648 , Reply# 55   1/18/2014 at 22:56 (3,747 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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