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Post# 728618   1/18/2014 at 20:47 (3,721 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

My poor kds 18 is not working right. When i start it the pump just runs no light cancel does nothing pump just keeps running. The only change is if a run the sani cycle it just keeps filling. So you guys think i need a new timer?
Can you get new ones anymore?





Post# 728630 , Reply# 1   1/18/2014 at 21:34 (3,721 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        

There are a few on eBay right now

Post# 728640 , Reply# 2   1/18/2014 at 22:03 (3,721 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Do you have a part number cant find any

Post# 728679 , Reply# 3   1/19/2014 at 06:06 (3,721 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        
here you go .........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141013186885QUES...

there are a couple on here part number is Timer

Manufacturer Number 4162399


Post# 728680 , Reply# 4   1/19/2014 at 06:08 (3,721 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        

if you decide to junk it let me know i would be intrested in it for parts


Post# 728687 , Reply# 5   1/19/2014 at 07:24 (3,721 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Any hope of fixing the one i have in there now

Post# 728688 , Reply# 6   1/19/2014 at 07:40 (3,721 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

How is the drain pump know when to shut off or is it just a timed sequence

Post# 728695 , Reply# 7   1/19/2014 at 08:10 (3,721 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        

its all through the timer that model doesnt have a drain pump but rather a drain silenoid


Post# 728748 , Reply# 8   1/19/2014 at 11:46 (3,720 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Thanks being whirlpool oem is this a direct replacment. Im gonna take the old one apart tonight

Post# 728749 , Reply# 9   1/19/2014 at 11:58 (3,720 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        

should be...... i replaced mine a couple years ago


Post# 728750 , Reply# 10   1/19/2014 at 12:05 (3,720 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Thanks i may order it tonight if i have the funds

Post# 728754 , Reply# 11   1/19/2014 at 12:21 (3,720 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        

cool again dont trash the machine i will buy it off you for parts atleast i have 2 kds 18's


Post# 728759 , Reply# 12   1/19/2014 at 12:51 (3,720 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Sorry im attached to my kds she will live again

Post# 728764 , Reply# 13   1/19/2014 at 13:29 (3,720 days old) by bmr6969 (columbus ohio)        

good man!!


Post# 728932 , Reply# 14   1/19/2014 at 22:42 (3,720 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

So i watched the timer with the unit on. No motors were turning at all. Took the timer out test both motors and they both work. Any ideas on why no power is being sent to the timer motors.

Post# 728979 , Reply# 15   1/20/2014 at 06:06 (3,720 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Check...

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I would pull the machine out and check the connections.

Years ago when coldspot66 gave me my first KDS 18, I hooked it up and the motor would run, but no lights, timer advance or fill. Turns out there was one wire I think it was on the wash heating element that had fallen off during the transportation. Hooked back up and it was fine.

So, just saying, make sure everything is connected and go from there.


Post# 729001 , Reply# 16   1/20/2014 at 07:19 (3,720 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
KDS-18 Timer Not Advancing

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Hi Eric, try testing for timer motor movement with the timer plugged into the DWs wiring harness, even if the motors run it is possible that the gear train within the timer is bad and you may still need a new timer.

If the timer motors will not run when they are connected to the machines harness then it could be any number of possibilities as Eddie suggested. It could still be an electrical connection within the timer, or a bad selector Sw, broken wires where the wiring flexes in the door hinge area. The easiest thing is trying a good substitute timer at this point. Good Luck

John L.


Post# 729002 , Reply# 17   1/20/2014 at 07:26 (3,720 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Fair enough I will buy a new one worst case I have
A new one for the future.


Post# 729152 , Reply# 18   1/20/2014 at 18:57 (3,719 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

if anyone had a service manuel I could get from them it would help me out alot

Post# 729156 , Reply# 19   1/20/2014 at 19:07 (3,719 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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KD-18 service manual available in Automatic Ephemera for $3.08

Post# 729312 , Reply# 20   1/21/2014 at 08:45 (3,719 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Thanks we'll worth 3 buck

Post# 729556 , Reply# 21   1/22/2014 at 06:58 (3,718 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Well with a good diagram i found that the neutral that feeds the two motors and the time had come loose. So my old girl is washing away again
Thanks everybody for your help


Post# 729558 , Reply# 22   1/22/2014 at 07:13 (3,718 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Automatic Ephemera....

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....To the rescue once again!

Amazing to be able to purchase rare, "unobtanium" service literature for a small download fee, and even more amazing when the information that literature contains makes a "mystery problem" go away in a hurry.

Well done.


Post# 729576 , Reply# 23   1/22/2014 at 09:21 (3,718 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Loose Wires Rule !!!! (Sometimes)

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Betcha' had a big sigh of relief when you found the loose wires.

YAY !!! for disconnected wires LOL


Post# 729598 , Reply# 24   1/22/2014 at 10:49 (3,717 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Heck yes still ordered a timer tho i want a extra one just in case.


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