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Finish Dishwasher Detergent Unopened Box
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Post# 729124   1/20/2014 at 16:53 (3,747 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )        

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Wonder if this stuff has any smell left? Its is interesting that at the bottom of the box it says "EL Inc. Makers of SolLax. From what I understand is that Calgoite and SolLax where the first DW detergents. SolLax became Electra Sol. Dose anyone know what year they launch the Finish brand? Dishwasher All, Calgonite and Ajax, have all disappeared.

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Post# 729141 , Reply# 1   1/20/2014 at 18:17 (3,747 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Classic Ecolab formulation.

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The Ecolab copyright and mention of Ecolab Soilax proves it.

I would say this could even make a s#!tty DW work OK.  Grandma always used it in her KDS-15 until Ecolab quit making it for home use. 

A similar formula is still available from Ecolab sold as Institutional Finish.  NO Finish formulation sold on the consumer market in the recent years has more than a vague resemblance of the old Ecolab formulation.

We use modern Ecolab DW chemicals @ the prison for dishwashing and let me tell you the performance has not dropped off.

WK78


Post# 729144 , Reply# 2   1/20/2014 at 18:33 (3,747 days old) by rockland1 ()        
Soilax

Soilax was an all purpose cleaner for floors, walls and general purpose cleaning similar to spick and span.

Post# 729158 , Reply# 3   1/20/2014 at 19:08 (3,747 days old) by washer111 ()        
Nice!

Looks like it might still be okay, considering the condition of the packaging. If it is useless, well, put it on your detergent display shelf :-)

 

Whereabouts can you purchase the Ecolab (Finish Institutional) formulation? I would be very interested in buying some for personal use, to see if it compares (for better or worse) to the Finish they currently stock here in Australia (Oxygen Bleach, Enzymes and >30% Phosphates). 


Post# 729559 , Reply# 4   1/22/2014 at 07:15 (3,746 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Love Finish

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The Old Formula like this one.

Never had luck with Calgonite. (In Mom's GE Princess)

Cascade and Electrisol were also pretty good.

If I remember right, Dishwasher All made alot of Suds.


Post# 729757 , Reply# 5   1/22/2014 at 20:48 (3,745 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Thing To Remember About All These Old Detergents

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Is if they are phosphate based especially sodium hexametaphosphate (SHMP), you need to purchase with caution if you intend to go rather than show.

SHMP more than STPP is hygroscopic and will take up moisture quickly if stored either improperly, and or for long periods under less than optimal conditions. Once this happens with SHMP and STPP they become less to nil in use for their original detergent builder purpose.

If you've ever picked up an old box of detergent from the phosphate era and it is hard as a brick and or after opening it the stuff starts clumping, there you are then.

Once one is finished with the last of the open box of Burst detergent (am fighting a on going race to get shot of it before the stuff turns into brick), am probably done buying older stuff for awhile. That is unless something extraordinary comes along like a case of Dash! *LOL*

Am finding most modern TOL laundry detergents such as those by P&G, Henkel, and other EU sources really do well enough on their own without phosphates. More over they use "anti gray" technology to prevent encrustation. Only time one would bother is using various soap based liquid detergents, the vintage Persil soap powder, and so forth.


Post# 729766 , Reply# 6   1/22/2014 at 21:15 (3,745 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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I seem to have been lucky with most of my old detergent purchases, as nearly all of them have been very free flowing even after decades. The problematic ones tend to be the concentrated types, such as All and Dash.

It may be a coincidence. I just got some Colgate AD that has to be close to 60 years old, and it is just fine. Go figure!

Still, I think you'd be very lucky to get vintage DW detergent that wasn't hard as granite; it was often that way when practically new.


Post# 729770 , Reply# 7   1/22/2014 at 21:57 (3,745 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

I think this package predates 1965 at least. I remember Finish as having a kind of chrome colored paper exterior on the box with "Finish" in dark blue lettering. Back in 1962 when we(my parents) had a GE Mobile Maid and my mother tried Finish, Calgonite, and Electrosol. I don't remember Cascade from back then. She bounced back and forth between Electrosol and Calgonite. I liked the Calgonite because of the odor or clean dishes immediately after the cycle was over. But I later found out that the smell was really from the plastisol interior from heating.

I do remember my mom saying that you couldn't buy the dishwasher detergent just anywhere. Lots of stores didn't carry it. You had to go to a large supermarket to find it. In what year did they withdraw Calgonite from the market? Anyone know?


Post# 729777 , Reply# 8   1/22/2014 at 22:21 (3,745 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
CALGONITE

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North American trademark listed as abandoned in 2007, so production probably ceased sometime before then.

www.markhound.com/trademark/searc...

IIRC RB still sells Calgonite outside of North America.






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