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Mid Modern Electric Stove - 4 Burner Green - $395 (Methuen, Salem, NH)
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Post# 731812   1/30/2014 at 14:40 (2,254 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Not sure if price includes the matching refrigerator...



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Post# 731813 , Reply# 1   1/30/2014 at 14:43 (2,254 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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That Westinghouse side by side is the one I grew up with! We bought it from Baltimore Gas and Electric Company. They put it on our gas and electric bill. It had an ice maker and a " Quick Chill" compartment.

Post# 731843 , Reply# 2   1/30/2014 at 17:47 (2,254 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
You can be sure...

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These hale back when Westinghouse was a respectable brand and again, not only did this stove have a very effective self-cleaning oven but it had that wonderful two-level broiler. In just a few short years this brand would degenerate into ca-ca.


Post# 731885 , Reply# 3   1/30/2014 at 20:36 (2,254 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Westinghouse appliances

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While I am a big fan of WHAs in this time period and appreciate what they were trying to do, we do have to remember that these were considered the real junk of their day.

Westinghouse Electric dumped their appliance division because of the losses and problems, It got to the point where builders that equipped new homes with WHAs were not having a harder time selling the homes but were besieged with complaints about malfunctioning appliances.

WHs Self-Cleaning oven was interesting as it cleaned using only the broiler element, so unless the burner pans were placed on their edges at the sides of the oven the floor of the oven would be left dirty, it was interesting for sure. We have the first WH 30" self-cleaning in our collection, it also has no-turn speed broil and the 8" automatic stirring RF burner and the left front 6" element has WHs version of a heat controlled element, cool range but they weren't anywhere as durable or good performing as a GE P-7 range.


Post# 731888 , Reply# 4   1/30/2014 at 20:44 (2,254 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Good heavens! The range seems to have that funky 'extra' broiler element for what I believe Westinghouse used to call 'no turn' broiling.

You know, I just happen to have a real Westinghouse 1971 avocado green dishwasher... Must...resist....


Post# 731968 , Reply# 5   1/31/2014 at 07:15 (2,253 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Everyone I knew in Lenoir..

That had 50s and 60s WH stuff, loved it, after about 69 or 70, it went to hell in a handbasket, as my dad used to say, but really, im sure this stove would be far better than any of the tin garbage on the market today.But John is 100% right, Frigidaire and GE had it beat by a mile, most everything else had slipped in quality badly by the 70s, Norge stoves were terrible by this time, Philco, Gibson ,Kelvinator, all were terrible, Frigidaire was still a wonderful product until WCI got a hold of it, GE and Hotpoint were still good, not as good as the 60s, but still OK.Of course, this is my opinion, some others may see it totally differently.My Mother bought a Kelvinator range in 1969, and it had to be the worst piece of garbage that ever was!Ill bet in the 10 years we had it, the right front unit and plug in terminal block was replaced at least 5 times....my 55 Norge has all but one of its original units!!

Post# 732070 , Reply# 6   1/31/2014 at 16:45 (2,253 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        
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Gee the big W plastered on the control panel, must signify that it was a Weneral Electric. LOL . Whats wrong with the sellers these days! How many times have we seen on CL, A Kenmore washer being advertised as a Maytag! All that is required, is looking on the control panel most times, to determine what brand. As Bugs Bunny once said, "what a moroon!
Hugs
David


Post# 732211 , Reply# 7   2/1/2014 at 09:51 (2,252 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

That is a very unusual Westinghouse 30" range in that it had two 8" elements. For many years, no matter how high up the line, Westinghouse offered only one 8" element on their 30" ranges.

Post# 732407 , Reply# 8   2/1/2014 at 23:51 (2,251 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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It is pretty amazing - how someone (whether they took the photos or not) would even suggest it's a General Electric. Did GE ever make a Western Electric and badge it as such? ...aught plus aught is aught....lol !

Post# 732413 , Reply# 9   2/2/2014 at 00:25 (2,251 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Did these fridges still have the round carousel ice maker?

 

It seems that the cabinets were designed for a 36" range that was probably never there.

I like the way they filled the gaps on both sides of the range! It seems to be in good shape too.  




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Post# 732415 , Reply# 10   2/2/2014 at 01:32 (2,251 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

PhilR,  They did do a great job of using ceramic tile to make a 30" stove work.  I did not notice, until you pointed it out. Good eye. alr


Post# 732425 , Reply# 11   2/2/2014 at 05:28 (2,251 days old) by retromania (Anderson, SC )        
Westinghouse

No one I knew had Westinghouse anything in the way of a major appliances. Must not have been a dealer in our area because there was just about every other make of appliance I had every heard of, although Frigidaire and GE seemed to have it wrapped up. There was a lot of Kenmore and the families that bought Kenmore stayed with Kenmore. I marvel at the brand loyalty in those days. My aunt did have a Westinghouse fan. It was her kitchen fan. It was the kind that was mounted on a stand with wheels. It had several speeds. You could turn the speed control knob to the left of off and the blades would rotate in the opposite direction. It was baby blue with a white grill. It had a sort of 1950's futuristic look. Really cool and very well made. By the 1980's it had rust growing all over it because when not in use it stayed on the back screen porch. She would say: "Do something for me. Roll the fan into the doorway and turn it on low. I am going to be doing some cooking for circle this afternoon." I was so scared that thing was going to shock me. No telling how many times rain had blown in on it.

Post# 732453 , Reply# 12   2/2/2014 at 10:25 (2,251 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Westinghouse ...

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...had impressive milestones or engineering firsts. But, there weren't many Westinghouse appliances around in my "neck of the woods" that I ever saw; more common, the Kenmore, GE, Hotpoint and Frigidaire names. Westinghouse late 50's /early 60's tv/radio ad is still easy to remember: "you can be sure..if it's Westinghouse"
But, if you were a family who lost one of the pilots who were testing jet aircraft with the much delayed J-40 engine built by Westinghouse Gas Turbine Divison, you'd pick another brand.


Post# 732603 , Reply# 13   2/3/2014 at 03:10 (2,250 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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There's a slightly newer red Westinghouse self-cleaning range and non-working color-matching Westinghouse fridge on Kijiji Montreal.



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Post# 732610 , Reply# 14   2/3/2014 at 05:35 (2,250 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
RE Westinghouse appliances in the South..

In my hometown of Lenoir NC , which in the 50s had a population of about 13000 or so, there were 2 Westinghouse dealers,Bernhardt Seagle Hardware and Leftwitch Electric, 3 Hotpoint dealers, Duke Power Co, W B Lindsey Furniture, who also sold Speed Queen,,and Watson Appliance store,2 GE dealers,Home electric and Crowells Tire and Appliance, 1 Norge dealer, Teague Furniture,2 Philco Dealers, Teague Furniture and D D Suddreth, who also sold Maytag,, 1 Crosley Dealer, Carolina Tire and Appliance, 2 Frigidaire dealers, O P Lutz Furniture, which also sold Monarch and W E Shaw Furniture,2 Kelvinator dealers,Shields Refrigeration and Hardware who also sold Bendix and Maytag,and Economy Auto Store, 1 Leonard Dealer,Valmead Furniture Store,And this was a small town of mostly factory workers, all of these stores were family owned, and of all these ,only Shields, D D Suddreth and Shaws are still in business, Bernhardt Seagle Hardware closed several years ago, and it had been open since 1826 making it the second oldest hardware company in the nation.its a shame there is no competetion like this now days, all you have now is mostly big box stores, so I rambled on with all this to say that Westinghouse was popular in Lenoir, it and Frigidaire both were considered to be a more expensive product than most others.There were probably more GE and Hotpoint appliances sold overall because you could get Hotpoint products with no down payment and only a small addition per month on your power bill, and Crowells ,which sold GE, was in the oldest most run down store on main steet....it even had a dirt floor in the back half..sold tons of stuff, you could call George Crowell on the phone and tell him you needed a new stove,and about how much you could pay per month, and when you got home from work that afternoon, it would be installed, and you never had to sign a thing!

Post# 732616 , Reply# 15   2/3/2014 at 06:26 (2,250 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
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I think that Montreal fridge and range are Westy's Coppertone, not red. The version of Coppertone offered by Westinghouse was redder and richer than some other manufacturers'.

Post# 732656 , Reply# 16   2/3/2014 at 10:58 (2,250 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Sandy, the ad says it's red and I really think it is. In the late seventies, red was a popular color in Canada. I've seen red appliances from many brands but I have never seen red Frigidaire appliances this side of the border (very few Frigidaire appliances were sold here from 1971 to 1979). 

 

Here's a Coppertone Westinghouse slide-in range. 


Post# 732657 , Reply# 17   2/3/2014 at 10:59 (2,250 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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And here's a better view at the one in the ad:


Post# 733007 , Reply# 18   2/5/2014 at 08:52 (2,248 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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My junior high school & senior high school bought an entire fleet of Westinghouse electric ranges like those--in white, self-cleaning and all!!!! There were also a few Caloric gas ranges, BOL, but at least also (actually ONLY; no clock/timer) self-cleaned...!

(My recommendations for Westinghouse, electric & Caloric, gas ranges in my HOW TO BUY MAJOR HOME APPLIANCES book seem to have gone a long way! But that was originally at my local city library for a time as well...)

These were for the Home Economics classes, which I never took but saw these appliances in...! There were one, or two Westinghouse refrigerators in the classrooms, and in Jr. High even a stacked Westinghouse washer & dryer w/ a newer WHITE-Westinghouse washer gradually put on the original dryer, at least noticed in one of the two Home Ec rooms...

(I'd once made a thread on school/institutional use appliances a few years back, when I'd just joined AW.org...)


-- Dave


Post# 733013 , Reply# 19   2/5/2014 at 09:15 (2,248 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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My aunt remodeled her kitchen around 1970 or so.  At that time, our own kitchen still sported the 1949 vintage Westinghouse stove and refrigerator that my parents bought new when they were married.

 

Even at only 20 years old, those two appliances were older than anything any of our friends and relatives had in their kitchens (little did we know that the stove would still be in place and fully functional nearly 40 additional years later when Mom passed on).  My aunt said that based on the durability and reliable service my mom's stove and fridge were still providing, she was going to make her new kitchen all-Westinghouse as well.  Even the laundry pair, which at the time were receiving poor ratings from CU -- at least as far as the top loader was concerned.

 

That's what she didn't realize -- by 1970 Westinghouse wasn't putting out the same level of quality that they were in 1949.  I was saddened by her decision because I knew she wouldn't be getting what she thought she was.  I never heard her complain about anything needing repairs, but she and my uncle never had any children so nothing saw hard use. 


Post# 733049 , Reply# 20   2/5/2014 at 12:38 (2,248 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
My Grandmother:

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Bought a Westinghouse fridge in Almond sometime around 1978 - absolutely hated it for years afterward.

It was not unreliable - it was cheap in feel, like you had to be careful handling anything adjustable.

Of course, by this time, WCI had its meathooks deep into Westinghouse.


Post# 733321 , Reply# 21   2/6/2014 at 08:35 (2,247 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Self-Cleaning using ONLY the Broiler?

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Not what would make any sense... Heat RISES!

My gas range uses only the baking element, which would make sense here if the upper & lower elements are not cycling separately or on simultaneously... (which is what self-cleaning ovens often do...)

But in my book, pointed out that W-H uses higher temperatures w/ shorter cleaning times; I've seen how the burner pans are cleanable in the S/C ovens of various makes of ranges, such as this one, too...


-- Dave


Post# 733323 , Reply# 22   2/6/2014 at 08:54 (2,247 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Westinghouse had the catalytic material in a metal enclosure above the broiler element with little pin holes punched in the pattern of the broiler element. The hot smoke entered the catalytic chamber at the hottest points and was "de-smoked." The strong infrared radiation from the broiler element cleaned the oven well.

Post# 733607 , Reply# 23   2/7/2014 at 21:45 (2,246 days old) by sel8207 (naples, florida 34117)        
very similiar looking range

Seen this one on ft. myers (tampa) craigslist. Seems new and reasonably priced. Don't think that they got any offers on it when they were asking 500$. They're asking 300 now. Les

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Post# 733608 , Reply# 24   2/7/2014 at 21:47 (2,246 days old) by sel8207 (naples, florida 34117)        
another pic

very clean oven. Even looks like it has the opening in the back of the oven for the rotiserie option. Wondering what that strip across the top of the oven door is for and can someone i.d. this type, I mean what level of g.e. Les



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Post# 733620 , Reply# 25   2/8/2014 at 00:42 (2,245 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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A General Electric w/ the raised edges & the last of this design (knobs on the back panel, instead of the push-buttons for the burners along the sides)... Giving way to the typical wholesale run on the standard design of this and the many other electric ranges, from this era, onward...


-- Dave


Post# 733654 , Reply# 26   2/8/2014 at 08:08 (2,245 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Les:

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That Avocado GE is a J 757, the top-of-the-line 30-inch range GE offered in the early '70s. It had every bell and whistle GE made: P*7 self-cleaning, Sensi-Temp automatic burner, griddle, rotisserie, and the automatic meat probe thermometer. The one in your photo is identical to the one shown in the 1972 GE catalog. This model was designated a "Custom," GE's ad-speak for its TOL range and oven models.

The frame on which these were built was a variant of the Americana frame - these are basically Americanas with the upper oven removed and replaced by a control panel. Most other GE 30-inch ranges of the era used the standard frame introduced for the 1957 Straight-Line Design restyling program.

The strip above the oven door is trim. When Americanas were introduced, that space above the oven door was used for either the Sky-View oven window, or P*7 controls, depending on model and year. Later, the space was not needed for either one, so trim was used to fill in that area.

A J 757 in White would be my absolute all-time dream 30-inch range. I own a J 370, the next model down, and it's a very, very nice range. But a J 757 would definitely get my attention.




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Post# 733773 , Reply# 27   2/8/2014 at 15:40 (2,245 days old) by NYCWriter ()        
OMG!

I want that avocado green GE range in the worst way!

DARN my limited electrical service!!!


Post# 734485 , Reply# 28   2/11/2014 at 12:38 (2,242 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Green GE P-7 Range

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Sandy,is correct that this GE range has every option except they also made this exact range with the Micro-thermal-p-7 oven.

On GE ovens they never had an optional rotesrisse, there ranges either had it or did not.


Post# 734562 , Reply# 29   2/11/2014 at 19:07 (2,242 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
John:

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I referred to "bells and whistles," not options. You're absolutely correct that GE didn't do much with options. There were a few models available with P*7 and without it, and my J 370's griddle was optional, but that was about it.

Unless I'm mistaken, there was one important difference between the J 757 and the J 856 Versatronic version - the Versatronic didn't have the storage drawer, because that space was occupied by the microwave's workings.

Right?


Post# 734614 , Reply# 30   2/11/2014 at 21:38 (2,242 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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original posting gone from CL but reply 23 and 24 - it's still available...

...thinking that GE is very nice, too....so here's a bigger view of it's non high dev image.


Post# 734938 , Reply# 31   2/13/2014 at 09:49 (2,240 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
GE Versatronic Range

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Yes Sandy you are correct, there was no storage drawer on Versatronic GE ranges, even though it looked like there was a drawer, it was actually a removable panel that concealed an air-filter that helped keep excessive floor level dust and lint out of the cooling fins for the magnetron tube. There was also two fuses and a circuit breaker behind this panel.

The other big difference was Versatronic ovens never had windows. This not only saved energy when baking and cleaning but also gave the range a much better cleaner less cluttered look. If anyone ever spots a 1965 or later TOL GE Hi-Low or single oven 30" range that does not have a window in the lower oven door HIT THE BRAKES as you have probably found a Versatronic range.





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