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Post# 739054 , Reply# 2   3/3/2014 at 16:10 (3,677 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Long before one even owned one had been warned off condenser dryers by various friends and so forth in this area. Coming from the speed and ease of vented dryers most Americans are used to the non-vented sort just drove persons up the wall. Climate here is just not suited to running the things for all put a few months of the year. Suppose if you are further upstate or out in the "country" things could be different.
Know persons with Miele, Bosch, and even Asko, they all pretty much say the same thing; their condenser dryers take hours to dry loads and even then things aren't done the way they like it. My WP compact will dry things faster than the AEG, but then again it sends warm moisture laden air out via venting and brings fresh *dry* air in to do the job. Where the AEG beats out the WP is in capacity and the fact it reverses. That last bit isn't all it's always cracked up to be as linens such as sheets and what not still often tangle into a ball. If you are fine with doing washing one load then going about your business for the several hours it will take to dry, then go with a condenser dryer. OTOH if speedier results matter use vented. |
Post# 739066 , Reply# 4   3/3/2014 at 17:10 (3,677 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 739355 , Reply# 6   3/4/2014 at 23:18 (3,676 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 739837 , Reply# 10   3/6/2014 at 12:59 (3,675 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 739839 , Reply# 11   3/6/2014 at 13:31 (3,675 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Oddly enough have found the only dryers that do not tangle sheets up into a ball are those large ones at local Laundromat. Perhaps it has something to do with the drums being so large in relation to load size but things do seem slightly better in that regard. Tangles? Yes, but that is to be expected.
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Post# 739944 , Reply# 12   3/6/2014 at 20:52 (3,674 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Alexander, is it possible that the SS dryer is tumbling too slowly?, I would check the specs and see if this is the problem. Many dryers have been made with the wrong motor pulley, it is also possible that you are running a 60 cycle power dryer on 50 cycle power?, doing this will cause very unsatisfactory performance.
Also Samsung dryers are not US dryers, they are cheap poorly built copies at best, LOL. |
Post# 740075 , Reply# 13   3/7/2014 at 13:05 (3,674 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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The Samsung dryer is not mine, only the Bosch is. I just found the video because someone on the Laundry Room Forum complained about her Samsung dryer balling up sheets. I posted it as the issue of balled up sheets had been brought up here as well.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK |
Post# 740762 , Reply# 14   3/9/2014 at 18:14 (3,671 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Really don't use this condenser dryer often and think that is what is causing problems. While the pump system is perfectly operational it does not run during the few cycles one has done so far. Found out last night that by "priming" the system (using a hose to shoot in several ounces of water to the system), it then will run without issue.
A mixed 5kg load washed in the AEG and spun at 1200rpms took nearly three hours to dry in the Lavatherm. Towards the end got that fed up and took out the two heavy towels to hang dry. Once one did that the machine quickly went from "Machine Iron" to "Damp dry" which one takes to mean it was the thicker items holding up the convoy as it were. Heard from friends who have a Miele condenser dryer here in NYC and they are calling in their contractor to see if there is any way to install a vented (gas) dryer. Both they and their housekeeper are that fed up with waiting hours for laundry to dry. As the building is new and has W/D connections there isn't even the option of using an on premise laundry room. Oh well in a few more months warmer weather will arrive and the condenser dryer will go into hibernation for the duration. |
Post# 740769 , Reply# 15   3/9/2014 at 18:21 (3,671 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Are you using a 1200rpm spin if you are using a condenser tumble dryer and your washer spins @ 1800rpm? or is it a different washer?
You should max spin at 1800rpm, any slight creasing on certain fabrics will be taken out by the dryer and it will certainly benefit the heavy towels and drying times!! |
Post# 740773 , Reply# 16   3/9/2014 at 18:36 (3,671 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Actually did some online research before doing the laundry last night and there seems to be considerable debate regarding the value of spin speeds >1200rpms.
Thus far have used the Lavatherm mainly after laundry was washed in my older Miele with a top final spin speed of only 900 rpms. It should go to 1100rpms but hasn't for ages and after several calls to MieleUSA and tech visits it still won't and they have told me and my machine to get on our bikes! *LOL* After things came out of the Miele were bunged into the spin dryer for three minutes of 3200rpms then dried in either the WP or Lavatherm. Even with the spin dryer a full 5kg load takes two hours or more to dry in the latter depending upon composition. Have stopped using the spin dryer and by extension very high spin speeds on everything as one has noticed problems. Undergarments and T-shirts badly stretched out of shape that no amount of heated tumble drying can restore. Elastic bands in particular seem not to last as long. Also began noticing small holes in certain items. In addition it seems the edges of bath linen were becoming shredded. www.washerhelp.co.uk/forums/topic... www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/washing-... |
Post# 740811 , Reply# 18   3/9/2014 at 21:06 (3,671 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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One of the reasons one used the Lavatherm last night is due to the very cold weather we've been having. Indeed the handful of times one has used the unit these past few winter months is because it has been downright frigid outside.
Even in a chilly room have found drying times not that much faster. What does seem to happen is condensation drips from the left rear area where the fan/heater area is located. At first one thought this was water leaking from the pump area that wasn't going where it should. But after opening up and cleaning the area(nothing was really there) last summer am sure of things. Now there is a deflector to send such water down into the sump where it should be pumped up the collecting drawer, but either too much condensate if forming and or just a design flaw, who knows.... Miele and other condenser dryers have listed in their owner's manual optimal ambient temps for proper operation. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
Post# 740835 , Reply# 19   3/9/2014 at 23:20 (3,671 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)   |   | |
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Interesting articles. I'd like to know about the difference in drying TIMES and amount of wrinkles, not just electricity usage. |
Post# 740850 , Reply# 20   3/10/2014 at 05:11 (3,671 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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As we in the UK have been ripped off for a long time I am now all out for saving a few pennies on the dryer as its the highest user of power after the oven.
I am waiting for my winter bill to arrive to compare it to last years when I had a Miele condenser dryer and a 1400 spin washer now I have a Beko heat pump dryer and an 1800 spin AEG washer. When a load of towels are done in the AEG and put in the dryer it says its going to take 2.45 hrs to complete but it is always done in a lot less time and thats since having a better spin washer. So it comes down to do you want to pay for more energy and have them dry in 45 mins or do you want to save energy and get them dry in 120 mins you can't have it both ways... Austin |
Post# 741029 , Reply# 21   3/10/2014 at 21:07 (3,670 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Yes, my AEG is the same.
It gives a duration time when first started, but that will change once the thing has heated up and sensors detect how "dry" the load is already thus how long it should take to finish the job. Sometimes on "Cupboard dry" initially will show 1:40 on the display, but if the load was spun to within an inch of it's life in spin dryer, that number will drop to around <40 minutes. However that is not the end of things; once the dryer reaches 13 minutes or so it remains there until proper level of dryness has been reached regardless. Have seen that dryer stay on "13 minutes" for a half hour or longer. Finally figured out that ten minutes of that number is the automatic "cool down". Can tell when laundry is almost dry when using "Quick dry" option because that is when the drum will begin reversing. |
Post# 741063 , Reply# 22   3/11/2014 at 04:50 (3,670 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Not known any issues with stretching and deforming here either, and dont forget this is from the land of spin dryers ha ha....usually thats an end product of the wrong wash programme!!
launderess those reports are at least 6 to 8 years old, like Austin said our electricity costs have ramped up somewhat since then and energy is a massive chunk of ones household budgets.......plus with our "Inclement" weather unlike sunny NY with all its heat and humdity, busy housewives need their laundry quick and dry by whatever means, so for us the faster spin speed will always ensue, mechanical extraction wins over a powerful costly heater element everytime.....and the difference between using 1200 to 1800 for "Heavy Towels" will be significant!! At last years data the best selling spin range was a 1400rpm 7kg washload, but having used 1600 / 1800 they DO make a difference when tumble drying, combined with a vented its a one horse race!! |