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HELP! Help me pick a new washer |
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Post# 743434 , Reply# 1   3/20/2014 at 00:02 (3,662 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Well the Columbus Washboard still makes these beauties the same as they made them 90 years ago!
Forgive my tongue-in-cheek reply but from your clearly stated position perhaps a washboard is what you are stuck with if you want to buy new... To state that all modern machines are "trash" is mistaken. The same applies to what you have "heard" that front loaders are more trouble. Yes you have to use them differently and learn new habits but in the end they have advantages too. Do remember that when you troll around on the Internet you will read lots of negative things about most anything, modern appliances included. But bear in mind that you aren't often hearing anything about the machines that are plugging away just fine day in and day out. Without the data of the "good" experiences available any statistics you draw from the "bad" you read/hear makes any statistical conclusions you draw likely invalid. I'm not saying they aren't some garbage appliances out there today, there surely are, but that was always true even back in the day. I have no specific answers for your search, only the suggestion to keep a slightly more open mind as you look. |
Post# 743507 , Reply# 6   3/20/2014 at 08:46 (3,662 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Washerdude, if I were in your shoes since Speed Queen /huebsch/kleenmaid weirdly are not available up there in your area, I'd seek on vintage or older offerings.
If you seek for really clean results, nothing that I consider a front loader can give you like a top loader does, this along with reliability ( generally, and that is a matter involving both Front and Top loaders) then vintage is your best bet... This post was last edited 03/20/2014 at 10:58 |
Post# 743534 , Reply# 7   3/20/2014 at 11:15 (3,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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in term of top load sometime getting a second hand refurbish as new washer you can save money and there is also a 90 days warrenty for you to exchange the washer if you do not like the first one and i like you washer dude am planing to go back to a topload when my actual set breaks, and a small note to those that went to suggest a front load you need to think that some have a budget or that front loads washer do not fits there needs (* i do not went to start a debate here and washerdude depending on the town you live in if you have a store called corbeil electro i think they sell huebesch washer the canadien branded speedqueen maybe this link will help you locate a dealer in your town home.huebsch.com/contact/locator/...
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Post# 743545 , Reply# 8   3/20/2014 at 11:54 (3,661 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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Post# 743599 , Reply# 10   3/20/2014 at 15:39 (3,661 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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wait never mind they dont...... |
Post# 743618 , Reply# 12   3/20/2014 at 16:47 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Considering that: Moffat, Hotpoint and of course GE are or looks with almost all probability the same modern GE made crap....at least for sure the Hotpoint and GE...
I'd vote for amana, nothing else than a modern BD whirlpool (amana is made by whirlpool) even though I am sure you can find better stuff without every doubt and that a vintage one would surely be better....of course... Hotpoint and I think Canadian Moffat are low end variants GE made, ...hotpoint are filmsey basic cheap machines, plastic tub and cheap materials, gonna give problems soon and performances are not of the best you can get like for every modern GE..so supposing Moffat is substantially an Hotpoint badged with this different name these two are identical... I would stay away from everything GE made nowadays. This post was last edited 03/20/2014 at 17:03 |
Post# 743619 , Reply# 13   3/20/2014 at 16:54 (3,661 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 743629 , Reply# 14   3/20/2014 at 17:29 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 743643 , Reply# 15   3/20/2014 at 18:07 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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For istance
Something like this www.kijiji.ca/v-view-image.htmlQU... That works like this Or like this That works like this But never and say NEVER ever paragonable to something like this in every aspect, washing, quality etc.. You said canadian? That really moves water like this And clothes like this Then judge yourself.... |
Post# 743644 , Reply# 16   3/20/2014 at 18:07 (3,661 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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I would go for Huebsch but the dealers are waay to far away from where i live..... |
Post# 743669 , Reply# 18   3/20/2014 at 19:06 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Sadly, all went through a further homogeneization of the market, you have lots of different brands but being though the exact copy of the others and just changing names....
You have even major brands like Maytag being nothing but the same as Whirlpool... That really sucks..... I wonder if these big companies are really wanting to absorbe every possible one and arrive to the point to be just one hegemonizing the whole sector..... Why continue to absord brands and keeping offering them just for it's name difference then will always be a mistery for me...well not that much of a mistery actually, apparently people are not even able to read a damn label clearly stating the actual manufacturer... Ignorance of consumers is beyond any limit, you have people out there still saying " I am going to buy Maytag cuz that was the brand my mama had and it lasted 40 years" imagine that... too bad it ain't maytag anymore...good luck letting 'em realize that.... |
Post# 743670 , Reply# 19   3/20/2014 at 19:10 (3,661 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 743677 , Reply# 20   3/20/2014 at 19:20 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 743695 , Reply# 21   3/20/2014 at 19:56 (3,661 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 743777 , Reply# 23   3/21/2014 at 03:13 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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With Combo 52, Whirlpool has still the sake to do not make the tub of plastic at least, and hope they will never do, this for every machine from them made (wasn't aware of that exception on a DD, but is an isolated exception I think) would it be a Roper, Amana, Kenmore and so all brands they makes, no matter sub-brands or known famous ones, and this with others exception of a few models and or replacing parts ( that are good stainless anyway) you will find the good porcelanized tubs white and or greysh in ALL the machines.. No plastic tubs at all..
As previously stated I would stay away from everything GE made nowadays and If I was in a forced choosing between a WP made and a GE, without every doubt I'd go for a Whirlpool made machine, obviously..... They are simply incomparable on materials quality ( that includes electronic/electric parts) also washing and price....you can find whirlpool machines for the same price of a GE, Hotpoint, whatever... And so surely getting more for your money regarding pretty much every aspect.... This post was last edited 03/21/2014 at 03:30 |
Post# 743781 , Reply# 24   3/21/2014 at 03:31 (3,661 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I've seen and owned many different washing machines in my lifetime and now own Whirlpool Duets from 2007, brand new 8000 model LG Gigantics, a Frigemore and two 4 cu ft LG Tromms. One with steam the other ith a booster. The Duets were in poor condition including a dry rotted,faulty boot and a clogged blower assembly in the dryer. The booster model LG needed a new door lock assembly and is now in pristine condition. The steam model was a real mess. Fortunately,it's still being covered by the warranty.Once it was disassembled,the barings literally fell out. The entire unit is being overhauled. The barings,the entire inner and outer tubs and the spider pully all were bad. The previous owners were beach bums and the lava pebbles,sand and rocks in the machine s outer tub and pump were the beginning of it's breakdown and cold water washing using way too muc detergent with built in fabric softeners left a hard tar like residue on the outer tub interior. Because the owner was on the mainland and was renting the house it came from, the renters bought a cheap ass Amana from Home Depot unaware that this washer was under a five year service contract with GE service sold at Home Depot. They recomended (LG Customer Service) a local service tech Rob who came out promptly and will be finished rebuilding it by next Thursday.
In both cases,the fault was that of the consumer,not the brand. I may seam a bit partial but,in selling them after learning their design and seeing,not hearing them work at homes I sold them to and teaching the new owners the importance of maintaining the machine and following easy directions on use and care, few,if any broke down. I still get email from original owners who talked their own friends and families into going LG. According to CR, LG washers and dryers are not only high rated for performance but are also manufacturing the most dependable laundry equipment. Fewer repairs of washers and dryers.then any other brand. |
Post# 744047 , Reply# 27   3/22/2014 at 02:08 (3,660 days old) by toploader1984 ()   |   | |
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My partner and his mother were very loyal "i only buy ge" and after all of this, he said no more ge. |
Post# 744393 , Reply# 28   3/23/2014 at 09:16 (3,659 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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So I've done more research and i think the MVWB980BG might be a good one. I thas the most positive reviews compared to the others. What do you guys think? |
Post# 744401 , Reply# 29   3/23/2014 at 09:45 (3,658 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 744405 , Reply# 30   3/23/2014 at 09:55 (3,658 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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I'm still doing research on frontloaders |
Post# 744415 , Reply# 31   3/23/2014 at 10:39 (3,658 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Yes... Okay...
You know, you started with saying that you do not want a front loader because they have issues, , not sure exactly about issues you're talking of.....for me they simply would not get clothes clean like a "regular" agitator top-loader would do, if you refer about problems of reliability and or functioning, well, all relies in choicing a good one, both if they're front loaders or toploader can give you problems... Said this, since I think that bravos (non agitator HE top loader) would not get clothes as clean as a front loader would do, and surely not how a regular agitator top loader would do, this while possibly giving mechanical related problems, then, If I really would have to choose among HE machines, I would surely rather go for a front loader. Also, I do not usually (alomost never) rely in customer reviews....I think too often are tricked and piloted by interests of sellers and manufacturers.... This post was last edited 03/23/2014 at 12:46 |
Post# 744554 , Reply# 32   3/23/2014 at 17:45 (3,658 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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I did research and looks like i found a frontloader. I really don't care about built in water heaters.... Maytag: MHW3000BW Whirlpool: WFW70HEBW Still doing more research on these. |
Post# 744555 , Reply# 33   3/23/2014 at 17:53 (3,658 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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opps, wrong whirpool model..... WFW88HEAC |
Post# 745154 , Reply# 34   3/25/2014 at 20:13 (3,656 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Hello,
sorry to step in like this i do not went this to cause another debate but i have seem to heard that toploads washers are making a comeback into stores but i heard this true the grapevine me i would stay with my first idea and stick with a topload washer if it was me like this model amana 16 cycles |
Post# 745168 , Reply# 35   3/25/2014 at 20:53 (3,656 days old) by Huebschman (Quebec, CA)   |   | |
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OUTCH!Ponctuation/capitalations/spelling/over 30 word phrase...Make a point. Had to read it 3 times. At the end... same old suggestion... |
Post# 745329 , Reply# 36   3/26/2014 at 14:18 (3,655 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 745341 , Reply# 37   3/26/2014 at 15:28 (3,655 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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That's what I said Kevin, I agree totally with Kevin! Not sure if you skipped or you now hide my posts when we told about this....
If that is case you'll never read this post also... With this new thing of hiding membersI don't know those who did or not....would be nice to know those who did, at least you know and avoid such situations... |
Post# 745343 , Reply# 38   3/26/2014 at 15:34 (3,655 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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P.S
Another little "warning" Similar is for amana, some amana machines used to be made by Speed Queen (raytheon on partnership with SQ actually) , but as far as I know today Amana are all made by Whirlpool ( sold to Maytag in the 1997 then acquired by whirlpool in 2002). I would never want to see a former Speed Queen made Amana owner going for a new Amana thinking to get the same machine as the previous one, or at least same company... But this is what happens all the time in these situations.....and is the reasons they keep offering these names.... That is unfair, amd sort of misleading...but fault of careless consumers... This post was last edited 03/26/2014 at 17:36 |
Post# 745345 , Reply# 39   3/26/2014 at 15:46 (3,655 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Sorry, I must have missed where you said that Freddy.
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I guess it's because I know what the name "Maytag" used to mean / stand for, etc. But I will never buy any newer appliance with the Maytag name on it. Why bother? Since it's a Whirlpool I'd rather have the Whirlpool name on it, instead of pretend it's something it's not.
Kevin This post was last edited 03/26/2014 at 16:14 |
Post# 745348 , Reply# 40   3/26/2014 at 16:01 (3,655 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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No problem Kevin, thanks for letting me know...
And could not agree more with you on your statements! I find it pesky too, but as we said, as long as you have "unaware" consumers, let's use this adjective..... They will continue use the Maytag name! But it could have gone worse....just think if instead of Whirlpool it was the GE buying it, at least whirlpool use to give a little more quality generally... In any ways, it just irritates me how they keep labelling exact same machines with different names, and still amaze me how people just can't get this, if consumers were smarter these situations would probably never take place.... |
Post# 745353 , Reply# 42   3/26/2014 at 16:26 (3,655 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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knew it was to good to be true.... |
Post# 745357 , Reply# 43   3/26/2014 at 16:38 (3,655 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Yes, it's nothing but a Whirlpool, though! Amana, Roper, Kenmore,Maytag etc...as you know, really does not make a difference, so if you seek for a BD machine just look for one of these brands...
The only advantage I see in the "sub-brands" like Amana, Roper etc..is that generally they have much lower prices than their "famous" name labelled identical twins... It's like for products in discount chains, for example, the hot dogs I get at the discount store are just the same of the Famous Italian brand Wudy Aia, if you read production plant address is the same one of the famous ones and taste, ingredients and everything is identical ( they are Wudy Aia hot dogs)...but Wudy Aia labelled hot dogs sell for 2.50€ at the regular supermarket....the Tobijas labelled discount brand for 99cents.... How a name can make a difference....in these cases you only pay for a stupid name...adverts and all the rest is concerned with it. This post was last edited 03/26/2014 at 19:35 |
Post# 745362 , Reply# 44   3/26/2014 at 17:12 (3,655 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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And what makes me laugh hard, is that I met folks that then says haughtily kinda disgusted: "me??? I'd never buy those " no brand" hot dogs from a discount, who knows what stuff in it"..... Just Exactly the same of the ones for wich you pay more than the double for a name on the package..
Then they hate you for proving and letting them realize how silly they're...... This post was last edited 03/26/2014 at 17:28 |
Post# 745474 , Reply# 45   3/27/2014 at 07:04 (3,655 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Yes are essentially the same as WP, but the MT line is getting a lot of attention from WP and MTs will often be the best buy, WP has announced to dealers that New Maytag laundry will now come with a TEN YEAR WARRANTY on major components, and pricing on some models is now designed to keep people from taking a 2nd look at the junk coming from Korea.
Based on what washerdude has said in this thread I would buy a SQ FL washer, or the Canadian equivalent, 2nd choice any WP or MT FL Washer. |
Post# 745518 , Reply# 46   3/27/2014 at 11:37 (3,654 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 745623 , Reply# 47   3/27/2014 at 19:15 (3,654 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Kevin, New MT FL Washers, are all made by WP most in Clyde Ohio and I believe some are still made by WP in Mexico, none are German and None are Samsung any longer.
WP did continue to sell a few full sized Samsung built machines under the Amana name after they took over MT, but they got out of sourcing full sized laundry from SS as soon as possible. WP however did continue the 24" compact MTs that were SS built until only about 2 years ago, thankfully that is also ended. I have often lumped LG and SS together, but I diffidently now think the SS appliances are worse than LGs and that is not an endorsement for LG. Many LG FL washers seem to be doing fairly well, but the matching dryers are junk. The LG DWs are also the shortest lived DWs you can buy, and don't even get me started on the cheap LG refrigerators. |
Post# 745625 , Reply# 48   3/27/2014 at 19:19 (3,654 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Kevin, New MT FL Washers, are all made by WP most in Clyde Ohio and I believe some are still made by WP in Mexico, none are German and None are Samsung any longer.
WP did continue to sell a few full sized Samsung built machines under the Amana name after they took over MT, but they got out of sourcing full sized laundry from SS as soon as possible. WP however did continue the 24" compact MTs that were SS built until only about 2 years ago, thankfully that is also ended. I have often lumped LG and SS together, but I diffidently now think the SS appliances are worse than LGs and that is not an endorsement for LG. Many LG FL washers seem to be doing fairly well, but the matching dryers are junk. The LG DWs are also the shortest lived DWs you can buy, and don't even get me started on the cheap LG refrigerators. |