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| Post# 743831 3/21/2014 at 09:15 (3,680 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
Hello everybody! Happy Spring!!!
Sorry I haven't been on here in a while. Things have been a bit crazy on my end. I'm trying to get my Programmed late 60's model GE working again. Some of you might remember that the motor from the 3 speed 69 FF I had burned up because of a bad relay. I took the motor out of my programmed GE (which has been in storage) and put it in the 69 and it works fine. I now have the programmed GE with no motor. It works fine otherwise aside from a few cosmetic issues that happen in the moves to and from California. So here is the problem. I thought I could swap out the motor for another one and just make sure the relay and everything matched and go from there. Then I learned the hard way that GE had changed some things on the motor bracket that mounts the motor to the rest of the machine. It seems the later 70's models and thru to the 90's have a flat plate that attaches, where as the earlier ones have very different ones that are not flat. I have taken some pics to illustrate below. Basically I need to figure out what to do and your input would be very helpful, as always. | ||
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| Post# 743832 , Reply# 1 3/21/2014 at 09:18 (3,680 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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Here is the motor...
from the 69 3 speed. I put it on to see if it was indeed dead and it is - it just hums. Please look at the arrows for the mounting bracket - it shows how one side is vastly different and the other side has the screw mount that is dropped down. This is the problem when trying to fit a newer motor since these mounting screws don't fit the newer plates.
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| Post# 743834 , Reply# 2 3/21/2014 at 09:20 (3,680 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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I found this one one eBay...
but I'm not spending $125 and shipping it from Canada if its not going to fit… Somebody here has to have one...
CLICK HERE TO GO TO geextrarinse's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 743835 , Reply# 3 3/21/2014 at 09:22 (3,680 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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and here is the example I have... | ||
| Post# 743839 , Reply# 4 3/21/2014 at 09:28 (3,680 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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So my question is:
What do I do? I realize I can find a newer motor - as there are a few of these round motors online, though not cheap - and I can take the old plate off and remount the new motor. Might as well do a whole new clutch and everything while I'm at it - but then there is the question of removing the clutch and all that. I'm not afraid to do it - i just don't have the pulley puller to do it, nor have I been able to find one online.
I DO want to save this washer though I'm frustrated and part of me is tempted to take it apart for parts. It has been living in my parents garage and they are tired of looking at it. I told them I'll get it running and now that I've been trying to- its just more of a headache. It has a new transmission, has very little rust inside. And it has the rare turquoise tub, also clean as a whistle. The control panel got banged up and the lens was cracked from moving it due to careless movers but I super glued it. I have more reasons that not to fix and keep it - I just need to sort out the motor. So, whatever you think please let me know… Does anyone have a replacement motor for this? Or a Pulley Puller if I should need to take the whole thing apart? Suggestions greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Matthew | ||
| Post# 743840 , Reply# 5 3/21/2014 at 09:30 (3,680 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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This is the machine in question: | ||
| Post# 744077 , Reply# 6 3/22/2014 at 09:07 (3,679 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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REALLY?! | ||
Post# 744082 , Reply# 7 3/22/2014 at 09:19 (3,679 days old) by akronman  (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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hmm | ||
| Post# 744086 , Reply# 8 3/22/2014 at 09:24 (3,679 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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THANK YOU Akronman
Well, that's part of my question - because I think I need the specific round model motor. And I'm wondering which one is best because I've found a 1/2 hp which would be the same as I'm replacing - but there are also 1/3 hp which are also available. Plus I'd need to take the whole thing apart which I haven't done yet. Was looking for some experienced guys to help.
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Post# 744099 , Reply# 9 3/22/2014 at 09:56 (3,679 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Hey
You only started this post yesterday, be patient and various experts will chime in. One thing I have learned here, on many motors and strongly on GE, get a new relay for a new motor. Or a new relay for a new-to-you used motor.
I have swapped round versus square motors on various machines when needed, Norge, WP, some dryers. As long as you have the correct horsepower and can figure out the wiring, I'd swap any mounting plate needed to get that machine up and running again. I know it's the weekend and you probably have time for the repairs, but just give folks another day or two for some info. And-----Sears Parts direct, google it, has great diagrams and PN listings for decades of GE washers, it'll help you get motor PN's and then search Ebay and such. It may also give you alternate/replacement PN's. | ||
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Post# 744101 , Reply# 10 3/22/2014 at 10:00 (3,679 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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| Post# 744118 , Reply# 11 3/22/2014 at 11:03 (3,679 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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Great! Thank you so much! | ||
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Post# 744140 , Reply# 12 3/22/2014 at 11:53 (3,679 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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I'm sorry... | ||
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Post# 745074 , Reply# 14 3/25/2014 at 15:01 (3,676 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Post# 745078 , Reply# 15 3/25/2014 at 15:25 (3,676 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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here I am....now lets see what we can do...so far from my stash, I have the same square motors, that puts you in the same boat.....
lets try and go with the simplest solution, change out the mounting plate.....but you have me puzzled with needing a pulley puller!..... unless yours is different, most of any other of these I have taken apart, were only one or two speed, but I don't see there being much of a difference.... once you knock that pin out, the top portion should lift off, even with some wobbling or a slight tap of a mallet... then loosen the U-clamp, and lift the whole assembly completely off the motor.... 4 nuts later and the plate should be freed of the motor.... and just reverse to re-assemble....30 minutes to an hour, and you should be back on track! THAT is one beautiful machine!..... they are 1/2HP motors..... See...if you joined us and brought those motors with you, we could have done this, and had you up and running! | ||
| Post# 745279 , Reply# 16 3/26/2014 at 08:16 (3,675 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
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Thank You Yogi!
I wish I could have come and met everybody but I had to work on saturday unfortunately.
What is the best way to get the pin out? I tried using a nail but had no luck - wouldn't budge. What do you use? I'm not afraid of doing it, as log as I don't do any irreparable damage. I wish I could have brought it and had everyone tackle it together but that wasn't in the cards. Let me know what you suggest to get the pin out and I think I should be good to go! Thank you! | ||
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Post# 745287 , Reply# 17 3/26/2014 at 09:14 (3,675 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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you need something with a flat, yet straight head on it....a nail punch usually works.....sometimes a hardened drill bit of proper size works too, especially to push it all the way thru....
regular nails are sometimes too flexible, and will bend, and you must cut off that pointed tip, that will only make your job harder as it will cause the pin to expand, and difficult to get out.... getting that pin out is the hardest part of the whole procedure.... | ||
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Post# 745400 , Reply# 18 3/26/2014 at 20:21 (3,675 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Post# 745477 , Reply# 19 3/27/2014 at 07:14 (3,674 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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GE FF Washer Clutches and Motors
Hi Matthew, good to hear that you are finding time to work on the GE again. To get the roll pin out of the pump driver you really need a roll pin punch, available at a good auto parts store.
You can put a 1/2 HP motor on these older GE FFs but you also need a different relay and you may also need to change some wiring connections. You could bring what you have down and Jason and I could help you rebuild it. Because of all the work we are doing at the warehouse Sundays are usually the best day for me, give a call if you need any help. John L. | ||
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