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Are U.S. city-dwellers ready for European appliances? |
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Post# 749333   4/11/2014 at 15:15 (3,665 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Blomberg Brings Compact Appliances to U.S. Apartments
As many people in the U.S. know, even small apartments with small kitchens often have a full sized dishwasher and refrigerator. CLICK HERE TO GO TO joe_in_philly's LINK |
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Post# 749404 , Reply# 1   4/11/2014 at 21:58 (3,665 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 749419 , Reply# 2   4/11/2014 at 23:30 (3,665 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 749427 , Reply# 3   4/12/2014 at 00:23 (3,665 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 749446 , Reply# 4   4/12/2014 at 05:07 (3,665 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 749479 , Reply# 5   4/12/2014 at 08:35 (3,664 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, CT)   |   | |
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Bloomberg (with two "o"s) is a popular money management & finance/market watch dog company.
It would just cause confusion and therefore fail. They should have re-branded for the American market...did they not do their homework? CLICK HERE TO GO TO GeorgeCT's LINK |
Post# 749488 , Reply# 6   4/12/2014 at 09:06 (3,664 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)   |   | |
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I would probably be interested in an apartment filled with electric servants that were compact. I could fit more of them in!
Not only could I have the requisite fridge and oven/range but perhaps the dishwasher and a small washer/dryer. Personally I think that compact sizing, popular in Europe and Asia is going to grow. However at this time I enjoy my house and my large appliances. Wouldn't have it any other way now. |
Post# 749512 , Reply# 8   4/12/2014 at 09:46 (3,664 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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You gotta be kidding. I cringe when I look at older pics of European kitchens with their small undercounter fridge. I COOK. I BAKE. Especially on Saturdays or Sundays I power cook for the week or two weeks ahead. My 22 to 24 cu. ft. fridge isn't adequate enough at times in addition to the 5 to 7.0 cu. ft. chest freezer in the laundry room. My 30" range and Breville SmartOven aren't enough at times. Since college, I don't know how to make a regular recipe for just 4 to 6 servings. Seems like a waste of time. I use my largest pots & pans and mixing bowls far more than "regular sized" ones. It's becoming even moreso as I stray farther away from prepackaged foods and making more of my own. An example would be veggie burgers. Frozen is only vegetables.
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Post# 749563 , Reply# 10   4/12/2014 at 15:48 (3,664 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I have a 30 inch Liebherr refrigerator and have that size by choice. It is much cheaper to run than the supersize models and if one really doesn't need the space what's the point. Depends on habits. I could see a single person or a 2 person household having these appliances with no problems. |
Post# 749701 , Reply# 15   4/13/2014 at 10:21 (3,663 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Bosch/Siemens has these "modular dishwashers". I think they're pretty neat if you have a small kitchen or don't need a large dishwasher. I have an older counter top version (in storage at the moment) and wouldn't want to be without it. Loading and unloading only takes a few minutes, which is definately faster than washing dishes by hand.
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Post# 749792 , Reply# 16   4/13/2014 at 16:51 (3,663 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 749796 , Reply# 17   4/13/2014 at 16:58 (3,663 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Since I have been born 16 years, 4 months and 6 days ago, we had a 18 inch DW. And believe me, I had once the chance to use a counter top one and there is definetivley more space in any 18 inch DW. One single rack of a counter top one is slightly bigger than one 18" DW basket, but still way smaller than 2 18" baskets... |
Post# 749800 , Reply# 18   4/13/2014 at 17:01 (3,663 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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But much depends upon how one lives.
Am considerably older than your "sixteen months, etc... and so forth" with many years of housekeeping under my belt. For single and double person households in most instances it can take a day or longer to fill an eighteen inch dw. For them a countertop unit would fill faster thus have to be run more often but still would suffice, especially if space is tight. If the same household is out much of the day and or tends to eat at least two meals per work day outside of the home, again the smaller unit shouldn't pose problems. As one stated it depends upon the household and it's habits. Obviously a married couple with a child or two isn't going to find much usefulness in a countertop unit. Nor will a household that does lots of preparation and consummation of meals at home, and or entertaining. |
Post# 749801 , Reply# 19   4/13/2014 at 17:06 (3,663 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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The 5 of us fill our 18" Bosch DW in 2 days, sometimes it even takes 3! But the time I'm alone with my 2 brothers, you are right, it takes even longer... |
Post# 750005 , Reply# 21   4/14/2014 at 15:09 (3,662 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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As someone who has basically lived in Germany and Spain, I can tell you small is small. No matter how you slice it, washers do NOT have the same capacity or speed for that matter than many standard American ones. My standard sized Maytag will wash a bigger load in 15 minutes than ANY washer I've ever used in Europe. Ever wonder why food packaging is always smaller than their American counterparts? The refrigerators are smaller. A 2 liter bottle of Pepsi is tall and thin there, ours are shorter and much wider. There is no right or wrong. It boils down to what each is accustomed to.
I'm sure there will always be a few here that will embrace European sized appliances. But the vast majority will never let go of their full sized appliances. |
Post# 750008 , Reply# 22   4/14/2014 at 15:29 (3,662 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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IMHO on of the reasons it can take so long to fill the things is that by and large one is limited to what fit. Dishes, glassware, cups, saucers, *some* utensils, cutlery and so forth are fine. But larger pots, pans, mixer bowls and so forth simply do not fit, well not in our Kenmore (rebadged Frigidaire). In some instances can make such things fit but they would take up much of the lower level, thus have to run the machine half full, which is not very economical. Better and quicker to just wash in the sink and be done.
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Post# 750081 , Reply# 23   4/14/2014 at 19:05 (3,662 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 750082 , Reply# 24   4/14/2014 at 19:07 (3,662 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 750120 , Reply# 25   4/14/2014 at 20:38 (3,662 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Those that have been to Europe often and gotten around just as Europeans whom have been to the USA and done the same know there isn't a "one size fits all" when it comes to fitting out a kitchen/service area.
On both sides of the pond as anywhere else in the world personal tastes combine with practicality and necessity. Have seen small studio apartment kitchens here in NYC with a full sized dw crammed in, others went for the smaller countertop or eighteen inch versions if not doing without all together. Europeans that cling to the old ways and shop for fresh produce, meats and so forth daily or several times per week probably see no need for a huge fridge. Then you have persons in NYC with huge fridges that are used mostly to store takeaway leftovers, frozen foods, etc.... A quick glance around AirBnB Paris or any other city's site will tell that kitchens in Europe and kitchens are fitted in every manner and way possible. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK |
Post# 750165 , Reply# 26   4/15/2014 at 00:46 (3,662 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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What apartments I lived in had full sized appliances-no dinky sized ones-esp for me. |
Post# 750280 , Reply# 27   4/15/2014 at 12:55 (3,661 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Apt sized stoves weren't all that uncommon to see in apartments back in the day but they all had full size fridges pretty much. However today a lot of these hirise condo's going up are extremely tiny, like a motel room basically under 500 sq ft.. There's probably going to be a burgeoning market for the smaller sized appliances.
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