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Post# 755266   5/6/2014 at 14:31 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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thanks goes to Ultramatic/Louie for finding and posting a thread of this Speed Queen, not to mention picking it up for me....

the date code shows it to be Aug 1978, although I am thinking it to be earlier than that.....

its a Solid Tub, porcelain, one speed, two cycle, 3 water temps....what more do you need?.....

I say plug n' play as there really isn't anything to do to it outside of a good cleaning and polish, and a few areas to touch up.....

mechanically it runs smooth and quiet.....

although did notice the pump was seeping from the pulley area, and the original owner did a makeshift impellor fix, that didn't hold out past the first three loads, but one fortunate thing for solid tubs, any floor drain will work, at least for now......

any one with insights to locate a fuctioning pump, let me know...





Post# 755267 , Reply# 1   5/6/2014 at 14:33 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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basic cycles, come may even call this BOL, outside of it being a one speed, it has everything you could want.....3 water temps, variable water levels, Normal and DurablePress cycle...

Post# 755268 , Reply# 2   5/6/2014 at 14:35 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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porcelain tub, yet the control panel is a stainless look...

Post# 755269 , Reply# 3   5/6/2014 at 14:35 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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love that aireated fill and overflow rinsing, I could watch this for days...

Post# 755270 , Reply# 4   5/6/2014 at 14:36 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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minimal rust for its age, should clean up nice and quickly.....

Post# 755271 , Reply# 5   5/6/2014 at 14:37 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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interesting instructions......

Post# 755273 , Reply# 6   5/6/2014 at 14:38 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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just amazing the spin take off of throwing that water, in seconds its up to full speed....even without the pump, it drains fast....

Post# 755274 , Reply# 7   5/6/2014 at 14:40 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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so this adds three to my collection....even the lid switch works....

Post# 755280 , Reply# 8   5/6/2014 at 14:59 (3,614 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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WOW Martin, VERY cool, CONGRATS!

 

Interesting that it has a porcelain tub instead of stainless.   I believe the one I have is a 1977 or 1978.   Does yours have a tub brake or does it coast for ever?


Kevin


Post# 755285 , Reply# 9   5/6/2014 at 15:22 (3,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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there is a tub brake of sorts, although I think it has to do with the fluid drive putting a drag on it once the motor stops, about 15 seconds to a complete stop.....this is a reversing motor, as opposed to the banging solenoids which have a pad as part of the shift mechanism to slow it down...

Post# 755289 , Reply# 10   5/6/2014 at 15:30 (3,614 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Hey Martin

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That machine has to be within a year or so of my 73-74 version, the only difference I notice is your console says Multi-Cycle. I have 1975 literature that proves mine is previous, I bet yuors is 70 to 72? Cuz it still says MULTI-CYCLE, a 60's SQ thing.
Timer and switch are the same, single speed, very BOL and fun fun fun.

I've seen many SQ pumps on Ebay thru the years, but you pro's know the difference between the ones for reversing motors versus solenoid ones. Plenty appear on Ebay.

Congratulations on your energetic find. Small tub, but excellent results and ACTION!
Mark



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Post# 755300 , Reply# 11   5/6/2014 at 16:28 (3,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I'm glad to see the SQ going through it's paces. I would had sworn it had a SS tub. Seeing the inside now, no wonder it was so damn heavy! LOL!


Post# 755304 , Reply# 12   5/6/2014 at 16:51 (3,614 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Crown!

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She needs a chrome crown!

Pumps show up on eBay quite often.

Malcolm


Post# 755341 , Reply# 13   5/6/2014 at 20:32 (3,613 days old) by 76speedqueen (Orleans County Ny)        
Congratulations !

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Nice Solid Tub SQ. I have a mid 70's soak timer model and LOVE it. Very fun to watch, lots of cool noises....

Post# 755346 , Reply# 14   5/6/2014 at 21:39 (3,613 days old) by JeffG ()        

Anyone know the logic behind this washer's temperature selections? It has Hot/Cold and Warm/Warm, but no Hot/Warm? Offhand I can't think of anything I wash in hot water that I'd want to rinse in cold.

Post# 755355 , Reply# 15   5/6/2014 at 22:36 (3,613 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Taking Jeff's statement a little further, I don't think I've ever heard of a wash & wear item that didn't recommend a cold rinse.  I wonder what the logic was behind warm/warm, particularly when the cycle options include "Durable Press."


Post# 755361 , Reply# 16   5/6/2014 at 22:57 (3,613 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Love that aireated fill and overflow rinsing, I could watch

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it for days."

 

And I'd  be right next to you for that and the water throw, too. Love them. Speed Queen Porn &Symphony

 

Forgive me for the neglected message. I'll take care of it and explain tomorrow. So Sorry, Martin. 


Post# 755367 , Reply# 17   5/7/2014 at 00:06 (3,613 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
what a great find & friend

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unimatic!!!
that was really cool of you to pick this speed queen up for yogitunes.

and you really got it spiffed up & looking good there yogitunes!!!

:o)


Post# 755372 , Reply# 18   5/7/2014 at 00:51 (3,613 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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comtradictions in terms of how each manufacturer decided how to select temps based on these BOL units....

this one sort of allows you to 'manually' change rinse temps after the machine filled....in one way to save money on cold rinses, and another was some people were used to their wringer, and often rinsed in warmer temps, versus plunging their hands in icy cold water....

warm rinses may not have an adverse effect, but clothes seem to feel lighter, softer, and dry better when using a warm rinse, but then again, this could be just a mental thing...

this machine like Louie's 1974 Maytag was built during the energ crisis, you would have thought ALL cold rinses.....but warm wash will give you a warm rinse....


Post# 755375 , Reply# 19   5/7/2014 at 01:23 (3,613 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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(Blush) Thanks Christina. Smile


Post# 755399 , Reply# 20   5/7/2014 at 05:04 (3,613 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Oooooooo! Somebody got a new toy.

Post# 755407 , Reply# 21   5/7/2014 at 07:00 (3,613 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Cycles/temps

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The temp selections are a bit non-standard, true. Also, on the NORMAL cycle, the wash overflow in the last minute of agitation is the same temp as the wash. NORMAL does not have a spray rinse. The durable Press cycle is different. The overflow at the end of wash is the rinse temp, and then it also spray rinses for the first half of spinout. Speed Queens version of cool-down, I guess.

Mark


Post# 755411 , Reply# 22   5/7/2014 at 07:36 (3,613 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I don't know about you guys, or even other solid tub machines, but found SQ DurablePress cycle one of the better outcomes for washing PermPress clothing....

granted theres the slight cool down, but the quick ramp up of the spin, and it only last 2 minutes....barely enough time to cause the clothes to wrinkle, and not packed tight to the walls of the tub...

but with any load or cycle, with a solid tub, the clothing seems to puff back once the spin stops, you barely have to shake them out before drying....


side note, this is the first one I seen with the spring screen for the sediment tube, which is actually cleared and works....I didn't know that spring existed...


Post# 755412 , Reply# 23   5/7/2014 at 07:37 (3,613 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That is a great new washer to find!  I've had several of these lower-end SQ's over the years and saw many of them growing up in the 70's.  Never a dull washday with Speed Queen!  

 

The reversing motor washers did have a pretty effective tub brake, bringing the tub to a full stop within five seconds or so, required by law without a locking lid.  On almost every machine I've had like this, the brake works intermittently.  Sometimes it stops the tub as designed, sometimes it coasts to a stop in it's own sweet time.  And then, sometimes it will coast for a while and finally the brake takes hold and stops the tub.  You just never know what you're going to get with a SQ spin brake.  

 

The pumps were different from solenoid and reversing motor machines, and there were high volume (comm - coin-op) pumps and standard (residential) pumps.  This a25178 pump is the one listed for your machine in the SQ Doctrine I have.

 

Enjoy your new overflowing fun!



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Post# 755413 , Reply# 24   5/7/2014 at 08:01 (3,613 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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thanks Greg, yes this is the one I found and ordered....

although this exact one is for the banging solenoid version, I will just have to switch the bottom half to fit my machines clockwise pump out.....

interesting that they didn't just reverse the motor for agitation/spin sequence, then one pump would have worked for both...

I have seen the commercial style pumps, with 6 blades, those can kick out some water big time...


Post# 755414 , Reply# 25   5/7/2014 at 08:14 (3,613 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That's funny that this part number is different than the one on your machine, doctrine was wrong??  lol

 

I've had to rebuild pumps and change pulleys from parts on hand from one SQ to the next, they all look the same but...

 


Post# 755415 , Reply# 26   5/7/2014 at 08:23 (3,613 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
speed queen!

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Martin
This is a real great find
Best Of Luck with it
Peter



Post# 755417 , Reply# 27   5/7/2014 at 08:30 (3,613 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Speaking of pumps......

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I bought this SQ pump off fleabay last year for my machine.   I didn't have any part numbers, but could see it "looked right" in the photos and bought it.

 

I finally got around to installing it a few weeks ago and this new one is almost 2 inches larger in diameter than the old one.   I learned something about this new pump the hard way.   If I stop the washer for some reason when there is water in the outer tub (and pump), when it's restarted, water will shoot out of the drain hose with such force, it lifts out of the sink and start spraying everywhere!!

 

Kevin




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Post# 755431 , Reply# 28   5/7/2014 at 10:48 (3,613 days old) by JeffG ()        

"warm rinses may not have an adverse effect, but clothes seem to feel lighter, softer, and dry better when using a warm rinse, but then again, this could be just a mental thing..."

It's not just your imagination. Cold water (for washing and/or rinsing) sucks for cotton, and 90+% of what most people wear is cotton. Clothes rinsed in warm water do dry faster, especially in electric dryers, negating any energy savings one might get from cold water rinsing. Clothes are softer simply because they're rinsed more thoroughly in warm water.


Post# 755432 , Reply# 29   5/7/2014 at 11:00 (3,613 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Clothes are softer simply because they're rinsed more thoroughly in warm water.

 

Do you have any documentation / data / proof to back up that statement?


Post# 755443 , Reply# 30   5/7/2014 at 11:37 (3,613 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Congratulations!

A while back, you gave us the name of a dealer in NJ, I think, and you said they had old parts. Do they not have SQ parts?

Norge had the same H/C & W/W water temps.

Growing up, I can only think of one family who had a SQ and it was a pair from right around the time they started making them, with the big medallion on the front. The husband worked for some sort of business that had sold them. Some coin-ops had them, but I can't think of a store in the Atlanta area that sold them.


Post# 755451 , Reply# 31   5/7/2014 at 12:41 (3,613 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        
Nice old 'Queen . . .

Good to see she's back on the throne washing away! I like that simple yet elegant brushed stainless panel too.


Post# 755474 , Reply# 32   5/7/2014 at 13:47 (3,613 days old) by JeffG ()        

"Clothes are softer simply because they're rinsed more thoroughly in warm water."


"Do you have any documentation / data / proof to back up that statement?"

Of course. Research allergen studies done on clothing and bedding (dust mite droppings etc), or residual oils/waste matter in baby diapers. Etc.

I could also go into 30+ years experience visiting friends and relatives, running into bath and kitchen towels as stiff as a board (and that often stink). Invariably when asked if they use cold water rinses on their towels the answer is yes, and without fail the problems go away when they start rinsing them in warm water.

Or we could discuss residual fabric softener/liquid detergents/other crud in washers that accumulate in absence of warm water rinsing, eventually causing bacteria/odor problems in washers. No shortage of threads on that issue here on AW.

If you want personal proof, simply wash your hands with a bit of your favorite laundry detergent, and compare rinsing effectiveness in cold and warm water. See?


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Post# 755491 , Reply# 33   5/7/2014 at 14:56 (3,613 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah Tom, he was the first I went to....and he's all out of pumps, he even looked into his used parts stache, no luck....plus made a few calls around for me....their getting kinda scarce, and only pop up on ebay every now and then...

one other thing about cold rinsing, it will kill suds...sometimes a good thing....


Post# 755525 , Reply# 34   5/7/2014 at 17:45 (3,612 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)        
warm rinse

Warm rinse is also good for throw rugs with the rubber backing. For years my mother had very short life with these rugs, but when I told her to use warm rinse the lifetime more than tripled. She has rubber backed rugs that are several years old and the backing is still good. When she bought a new washer 9 years ago she would only get on with the warm rinse option, which was becoming hard to come by without going to almost top of the line. JEB

Post# 755672 , Reply# 35   5/8/2014 at 08:58 (3,612 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I'm a bit late to the party, but congrats on the fun SQ find! I'm amazed that we keep finding gems like this.


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