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OxiClean and Their Products - Do They Work??
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Post# 762048   6/7/2014 at 06:19 (3,604 days old) by MatthewZA (Cape Town, South Africa)        

Hi all!

My cousin will be visiting America for 3 weeks at the end of the month, Illinois and NYC, and I want her to bring me some OxiClean back. The only Oxygen bleach powder we can get here in SA is from GNLD, but its become very expensive and would be cheaper for me to give my cousin money and ask her to bring me some OxiClean.
I just want to know if it really works as well as the website claims it does? And would it be better to get the OxiClean Versatile Stain Remover, or the new OxiClean laundry detergent? And does anyone have experience with their White Revive? I am very keen to try this as its always a struggle to get my brothers rugby shorts and cricket kit white again after the games.

Thankx in advance,
Matthew





Post# 762094 , Reply# 1   6/7/2014 at 14:29 (3,604 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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Regular OxiClean powder contains a fair amount of filler. Ecover's oxygen bleach powder has no fillers and comes in small boxes, which might make it preferable for travelling from USA to AU.

Tide recently debuted an oxygen bleach powder as well, although I'm not sure how much bleach vs. filler it contains. Haven't seen an MSDS sheet on it yet to analyze ingredients. The Tide product tends to run about US$10 for a ~100 use plastic pail.


Post# 762095 , Reply# 2   6/7/2014 at 14:29 (3,604 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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Sorry, meant to say SA not AU. ;)

Post# 762123 , Reply# 3   6/7/2014 at 17:55 (3,604 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Shouldn't Bother With Oxi-Clean Products

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Most every single one contains more filler than actual active ingredient.

Their oxygen bleach for instance is half or so washing soda (sodium carbonate). You'd be better off purchasing pure sodium percarbonate from Ecover or even any of the better oxygen bleaches. Then there is because the product is so laden with washing soda the packets are dense and heavy. Not something you would want for airline travel I should think.


Post# 762125 , Reply# 4   6/7/2014 at 18:00 (3,604 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another Thing

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There are far more interesting laundry detergents/products to fetch back from the USA than Oxi-Clean IMMO. I'd ask for some sort of Tide detergent (the powder with bleach if easily found), or maybe pods. Either way there are far better things on offer here than Oxi-Clean which despite their promotions is barely a middle shelf product.

Post# 762133 , Reply# 5   6/7/2014 at 18:35 (3,604 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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You might also check out chemistrystore.com. They sell pure sodium percarbonate powder in 2 pound containers for $5.50, a pretty good deal for the pure stuff. With some advance planning you might be able to have it ordered and delivered to a location by the time your cousin is stateside to receive it and bring it back for you.

See like to the Chemistry Store's page for this item:


CLICK HERE TO GO TO zipdang's LINK


Post# 762184 , Reply# 6   6/7/2014 at 22:26 (3,604 days old) by dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

It would be best to buy the Versatile stain remover. It's pretty good. The new Laundry Detergent is horrible. It does not remove stains of any kind, foams up terribly in a front load machine, and doesn't rinse out well. I bought it once with a $3.00 off coupon and won't be buying it ever again. Not to mention it made my Dad break out in a rash!

Post# 762218 , Reply# 7   6/8/2014 at 06:50 (3,603 days old) by matthewza (Cape Town, South Africa)        
Thanks guys...

For the speedy replies - much appreciated!
@zipdang - will definitely research the Ecover oxygen bleach as well as the Tide. US$10 for a 100 wash pack is in my budget as US $1 = ZAR 10.79 which is do-able. The GNLD oxygen bleach is ZAR 170 for 1kg.

@Launderess - I'm still an old fashioned powder person. Liquids and pods (they're called capsules here) are still relatively new in SA. I've tried the Ariel liquid we get here, but prefer the powder. Their capsules are way too scented and make too much foam. The powder is really good though. Same goes for OMO and Skip - powders perform better.
Sorry if this is a silly question, but is the Tide with Bleach safe for use on colours with tough stains? I will also be looking at the Tide website.

Thankx again
Matthew


Post# 762219 , Reply# 8   6/8/2014 at 06:59 (3,603 days old) by dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

Yes! Tide with Bleach is safe to use on colors, although it *may* fade them slightly more over time than a standard detergent. No instant fading or complete color loss as chlorine bleach would do though.

Post# 762221 , Reply# 9   6/8/2014 at 07:13 (3,603 days old) by matthewza (Cape Town, South Africa)        
Tide

Just had a look at the Tide website. Interested to get further info/reviews on the following:

* Tide with bleach
* Tide Coldwater
* Tide Vivid White + Bright

Which of these is best pick? Is there 1 of the 3 that is good at removing stains and keeping whites white and colours bright? Neither I or my mom wash in cold water, but I hear that using cold water detergents in warm to hot water achieves better results - can this also be said for Tide Coldwater?

Matthew


Post# 762247 , Reply# 10   6/8/2014 at 10:51 (3,603 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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Well, keep in mind powder detergents do usually contain their amount of oxy bleach, in the USA since long now you will find variations stating having bleach included (rather increased), and for exstension best used in whites, but totally safe to use on color garments if of good quality (quality dyes and well done dying process),but with the warn that if low end or lower quality garments they *may* fade wash after wash as mentioned, this thing of detergent with bleach or increased bleach is starting developping just recently in Europe where you find brands such as Dash for example having variations for whites with increased bleaching ingredients along with other ones such as baking soda ( dash bianca purezza- pure white) or others like Sole that have a varation including Vanish (Sole+Vanish) which is the oxy powder bleach that the company producing Sole detergent Makes, this is similar of what happens in the US with Oxi clean which is a powder bleach manufactured by Church and Dwight, you'll find infact the Church& Dwight TOL detergent Arm& Hammer in a variation including Oxi-clean which is infact nothing but their variation including bleach you'll now find offered pretty much by every brand, again, not that their regular products does not have it, but products stating "with bleach" simply have an increased quantity of it, that makes their target the households and folks that are usual to add additives to their wash, such as people not getting particular hot water from their heaters or any conditions in which they find their regular detergents needs a boost/help.
That said, as Launderess mention, Oxi clean does not have a good reputation from some folks, as they find it being all about soda and few oxy bleach....on the other hand, this is what I could also hear many times about their Arm&Hammer detergent...saying being all about fillers and builders such as soda and baking soda, and so being bad formulated, also because leaving little space for others important cleaning agents that you're supposed to find in a greater quantity in good or acceptable well formulated detetgents. What consumers seems to complain the most, infact, along with poor cleaning performances, is the fact that their powder detergent, tends to leave white chalky marks and strips on colored/darks, and generally clothes hard and stiff...typical signs of too much soda used in hard- medium water and generally crappy detergents that are nothing but soda.
You find though many people happy and stating not having probs.
That said, I am that type of person that does not usually goes by what others says, bothways, and is rather willing to try myself.
After all, as in life, I believe it is important to try and really get yourself into everything to really have your own idea about something, otherwise you'll always speak the word of others, not your own...
I have finally ordered a box of Arm&Hammer powder to try myself....will finally be able to say mine about...I have only used their liquid, and found it to be very good, even though like every liquids, not paragonable to powders.

I cannot personally say anything about Oxi clean, as I do not usually use additives and have never tried it.

All I can tell you, is that I really find strange that over there you don't find that stuff...In Europe those addtives/multipurpose oxy stain removers such as oxyclean, are really famous, you find them sold all over the places, many many brands and even store brands...
If you really don't have that stuff in South Africa I think you may consider importing some from Europe, Vanish is the most famous, is in a fuxia packet, the same stuff may also be sold with the name Napisan...which though has not to be mistaken with the desenfecting additive from the same company that you find in some other locations...which is another thing....i have used the stuff and found it being good, as for others...




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Post# 762251 , Reply# 11   6/8/2014 at 11:17 (3,603 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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P.S
What once you found sold as Tide with Bleach, today is Tide Vivid.


Post# 762301 , Reply# 12   6/8/2014 at 15:50 (3,603 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
I Don't Buy OxiClean, BUT-

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I do use the Huish Detergents clone, called Sun Oxy.

A 5-pound pail is $5, and it works fine.


Post# 762312 , Reply# 13   6/8/2014 at 16:26 (3,603 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Tide Vivid White + Bright

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Powder is the TOL detergent in the United States for overall cleaning and stain removal on whites and colourfast wash.

Tide liquid detergents vary in ratings from consumer test groups but keep in mind they suffer from the same problem as all such detergents; lack of a bleaching system means some stains and soils may not totally be removed.



Post# 762416 , Reply# 14   6/9/2014 at 00:54 (3,603 days old) by matthewza (Cape Town, South Africa)        

@ Launderess - thankx for the advice. I had a feeling that Vivid White + Bright would be the TOL. And I don't expect it to be able to remove every stain in 1 wash with no pre treating. I understand that some things will stil require pre treating and that no detergent is perfect. I think that's where most people go wrong - they expect that 1 scoop or cap of whatever with no pre treating will remove everything from blood, grass, beetroot and everything in between.

@ Danemodsandy - thankx for the hint, will check it out

Matthew


Post# 1180622 , Reply# 15   5/14/2023 at 17:51 (341 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Should I get it?

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I'm interested in trying this stuff out.

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Post# 1180660 , Reply# 16   5/15/2023 at 00:08 (341 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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OxiClean is nothing more than sodium carbonate (washing soda) and sodium percarbonate (oxygen bleach). Last one checked OxiClean is about 50%-60% sodium percarbonate. Balance is largely washing soda plus surfactants and other bits.

In theory many commercial or institutional "oxygen bleaches" use ratios of sodium carbonate and sodium percarbonate. The higher pH from washing soda makes oxygen bleach (in this case liberated hydrogen peroxide from percarbonate) work faster and stronger. This is why one adds a touch of ammonia when using hydrogen peroxide as a spot remover. However as stated higher ratio of alkaline substances (washing soda, sodium metasilicate, etc..) to sodium percarbonate means a weaker product.

Personally have just bought pure sodium percarbonate from various sources such as Chemistry Store. Long as container is kept well sealed stuff lasts a long time and you only need about 1-2 tablespoons per load (front loader). Maybe 1/3 to 1/4 cup in large top loading washers. www.chemistrystore.com/Ch...

Thing about using pure sodium percarbonate is one can increase dosage (say for badly soiled things) without getting more of stuff you don't want (all that washing soda) which makes for easier rinsing from textiles.

If using "oxygen bleach" on laundry day it's highly likely whatever detergent one is using contains more than enough surfactants, cleaning agents and if a powder alkaline substance such as washing soda, thus you don't necessarily need to add more.

Only reason products like OxiClean and other powdered "oxygen bleaches" with washing soda and so forth may have an edge is when using liquid laundry detergents. Those products tend to be less alkaline than powdered detergents so the extra oooph may give better results. Usually however the sodium carbonate treated with hydrogen peroxide to make sodium percarbonate supplies enough alkaline pH to get job done.


Post# 1180710 , Reply# 17   5/15/2023 at 21:26 (340 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
white revive

What do you think of white revive?

Post# 1180725 , Reply# 18   5/16/2023 at 01:57 (339 days old) by Stan (Napa CA)        
The White Revive

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At a glacé doesn’t contain any per Carbonate (oxygens bleach)
But dose contain sodium per borate?
Odd since sodium per borate requires heat..IIRC?
MSDS shows 3 surfactants..so expect some foaming.
Some enzymes, and fragrance.
Manufacturer suggests that fabric be soaked for 6 hours or overnight.
Guess that’s when its doing the reviving!
Then suggests laundering as usual.
Ive never used, but with the enzymes.. it may be a good presoak ??
Laundress will know more about this


Post# 1180735 , Reply# 19   5/16/2023 at 07:56 (339 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
white revive better than chlorine bleach

I'm curious to know how white revive is better than chlorine bleach.

Post# 1180745 , Reply# 20   5/16/2023 at 10:31 (339 days old) by Stan (Napa CA)        
I’d be curious too

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Since the ad for it says “chlorine bleach alternative”
No oxygen bleach listed except for the sodium borate ?


Post# 1180751 , Reply# 21   5/16/2023 at 12:54 (339 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Make that three

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After my last post, I went on YouTube and pulled up some old Billy Mays videos of OxiClean. This lace part surprised me.






Post# 1180754 , Reply# 22   5/16/2023 at 13:15 (339 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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White Revive is nothing more than basically Oxiclean with bit of fluorescent optical brighteners. Revive may have a higher percentage of oxygen bleach (sodium percarbonate) ratio to washing soda.


Sodium Carbonate, Sodium Carbonate Peroxide, Acrylic Acid Homopolymer, C12-15 Alcohols Ethoxylated, Protease Enzyme, Disodium Distyrylbiphenyl Disulfonate, Amylase Enzyme, Fragrances.

www.ewg.org/guides/cleane...

Or if you want a powdered detergent with oxygen bleach. One could purchase any version of TWB, Persil or any other powdered detergent with oxygen bleach made for whites/colourfast items for similar or better results.

Regular Oxiclean powder does not contain OBAs:

Sodium carbonate, sodium carbonate peroxide, C12-15 alcohols ethoxylated, sodium chloride, colorants, fragrances

www.amazon.com/OxiClean-V...

Ingredients in consumer products sold in USA are listed in order of percentage contained. Thus the first few or several are what anything mostly contains.


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Post# 1180756 , Reply# 23   5/16/2023 at 13:20 (339 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Again if one using either OxiClean or Revive with regular powder or liquid detergent both would normally supply all the surfactants, enzymes and so forth including OBA. Thus again one could simply purchase powdered sodium percarbonate neat and use it instead.

Professional laundries, laundresses, and or anyone else has been soaking laundry in oxygen bleach (sodium percarbonate, sodium perborate or hydrogen peroxide) for over one hundred years to "revive" badly stained or whatever textiles. There's no magic here nor reinventing the wheel. Just a way to get consumers to part with their money.

What always gets me is how reviewers gush on and on about how they "don't use bleach" but rave about OxiClean. Sweeties Oxiclean IS a bleach. Oxygen based instead of chlorine, but never the less it is what it is.



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