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Work Begins on the 1960 Coin-op |
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Post# 115568   3/16/2006 at 12:12 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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I've begun working on the 1960 Coin-op, it appears that the washer mechanism is working perfectly with no issues. It probably could some oil, but otherwise its fine. The only problem I can find with the machine is the water temperature switch is defective. So I wired in a 3 position toggleswitch to take the place of the water temp switch...
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Post# 115570 , Reply# 1   3/16/2006 at 12:14 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115571 , Reply# 2   3/16/2006 at 12:16 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Check out this very interesting timer inside the coin mechanism box. The washer model is WCOB-LT, LT stands for "Less Timer". This was meant to have a timer provided by the coin slide manufacturer. In this case the coin slide manufacturer is Cissel. Notice how you can adjust the Wash and Rinse fill time! That is very cool.
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Post# 115572 , Reply# 3   3/16/2006 at 12:18 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115573 , Reply# 4   3/16/2006 at 12:19 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115574 , Reply# 5   3/16/2006 at 12:26 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115576 , Reply# 6   3/16/2006 at 12:32 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115577 , Reply# 7   3/16/2006 at 12:33 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115579 , Reply# 8   3/16/2006 at 12:35 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115580 , Reply# 9   3/16/2006 at 12:37 (6,609 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Robert, Congrats on the cool find. I remember living not far from a laundromat in Bloomington that was filled with these turquoise Frigidaires. I would go in and look sometimes but always got a dirty look from the woman behind the counter. I'm sure she thought a kid had no business in there and was up to mischief. When I saw your earlier reveal of finding this machine I was looking forward to your restorations and pictures. Great job so far. thanks again, Patrick |
Post# 115583 , Reply# 10   3/16/2006 at 13:02 (6,609 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 115587 , Reply# 12   3/16/2006 at 13:31 (6,609 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)   |   | |
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Nice washer Robert, did this washer orginally come with a jetcone? or is that a replacement? Its wonderful looking either way.... |
Post# 115599 , Reply# 14   3/16/2006 at 14:33 (6,609 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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the turquoise cabinet! I just know Robert would never be caught in his rollers! |
Post# 115607 , Reply# 15   3/16/2006 at 15:27 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Hey Patrick me too! When I was a kid we used to go down to south Florida every summer. There was a Laundromat within walking distance to my grandmother’s condo. They had sunny yellow 1966 Frigidaire coin-ops with the square window lid and I used to do the exact same thing. I also got “dirty looks” for the old lady attendants, but usually they let me stay and watch the machines as I tried to be as polite and well behaved as possible (unlike me now). Ben, don’t worry I certainly wouldn’t forget the heels! Austin, "Pig 3", WELL, I beg your pardon Mister; some is going to get a slap. Hi Jimmy, yes originally this washer came with a three ring agitator but without the turquoise rubber cap. Jeb, who says I was going through all that trouble just for you guys You are correct Darrel, I would be caught dead using rollers to wash, I only go for gears. |
Post# 115616 , Reply# 17   3/16/2006 at 15:57 (6,609 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 115620 , Reply# 18   3/16/2006 at 16:11 (6,609 days old) by westyslantfront ()   |   | |
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Hi Robert. What a fun looking machine? Sort of a big piggy bank...my 61' Westy slant front coin op is getting full of quarters. Congratulations to you. Ross |
Post# 115629 , Reply# 19   3/16/2006 at 16:50 (6,609 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Robert This machine was the first ever washer I saw in a Launderette that opened near us...1968...it had a self service dry cleaning machine as well...my Nan took me and I had the job of pulling here trolley full of ruby red velvet curtains... Whilst we were waiting for the dry clean to finish (and get high on all those fumes) I had a chance to check out the frigi washers...all you could hear was the "Whooshhh" of them spinning and the rythmical bobbing up and down.. The agi was totally alien to me, all we had been used to was the Servis or Hotpoint Agi`s. Mike |
Post# 115642 , Reply# 20   3/16/2006 at 18:28 (6,609 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)   |   | |
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Post# 115671 , Reply# 21   3/16/2006 at 19:32 (6,609 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 115686 , Reply# 22   3/16/2006 at 19:52 (6,609 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 115701 , Reply# 23   3/16/2006 at 20:32 (6,609 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 115704 , Reply# 24   3/16/2006 at 20:35 (6,609 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 115717 , Reply# 25   3/16/2006 at 21:14 (6,609 days old) by westyslantfront ()   |   | |
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Hi Robert. I can picture you in the outfit but can you manage the hair-do? Is it a hair-do or a hair-don't? |
Post# 115719 , Reply# 26   3/16/2006 at 21:17 (6,609 days old) by brent-aucoin ()   |   | |
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Robert, How long was the wash set for in the coin-op? Where they cheaters? Or fair? I just love the timer. This is a very cool find! Brent |
Post# 115743 , Reply# 27   3/16/2006 at 21:51 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115745 , Reply# 28   3/16/2006 at 21:51 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115746 , Reply# 29   3/16/2006 at 21:52 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115747 , Reply# 30   3/16/2006 at 21:53 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115749 , Reply# 31   3/16/2006 at 21:54 (6,609 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 115757 , Reply# 32   3/16/2006 at 22:06 (6,609 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 115770 , Reply# 33   3/16/2006 at 22:59 (6,609 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Hey - looks like fun! I liked the lit jeweled lamp - very nice. Not knowing much about early coin-op's, what type of coinage would this machine take? I currently just throw four quarters in a Kenmore DD machine in my apt, but I have a hard time believing it would cost that much in the early sixties. Thanks for the awesome photos! I bet your feet hurt - ;) Ben |
Post# 115775 , Reply# 35   3/16/2006 at 23:10 (6,609 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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And I almost forgot to ask... Does this machine have a snap-escapement timer as well? |
Post# 115779 , Reply# 36   3/16/2006 at 23:19 (6,609 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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When I was a kid in Pittsburgh PA, there was a section of town nearby of older 3-story apartment buildings. In the basement there would be a huge laundry room with multiple cement laundry tubs in the center of the room. Some residents had their own machines in this room...often wringer washers. But there was always at least one coin-op automatic, either Frigidaire, Maytag, or Speed Queen in the room. When I didnt have anything to do, I would visit these laundry rooms and watch the washers....they were always running and rarely was anyone around. The Frigidaires all had round windows and three ring agitators...they were my favorites and I quickly found out which buildings had them. There were rarely dryers...the tenants just hung their laundry in this big room in the winter and outside in the summer. One time I was visiting a laundry room with a Frigidaire washer and walked in and opened the lid, when suddenly from behind me boomed this gravely voiced old broad with a cigarette hanging out the corner of her mouth: "Hey!!! What are you doing???!!!" I almost jumped out of my skin and dropped the lid, which crashed down. She accused me of trying to steal her underwear out of the washer (yeah, right!!) I was probably about 10 or 11 and couldn't believe anyone would even think of something like that. She said she was going to have me arrested and called me a pervert. I didn't know what that even was and was scared to death. I ran out of the room and didn't come back for quite a while. But when I did there was a note taped up warning the other residents to watch out for a boy who is looking at and taking ladies undergarments!!! haha! |
Post# 115787 , Reply# 37   3/17/2006 at 00:05 (6,609 days old) by fixerman ()   |   | |
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IIRC A coin op washer would probably have been 20 or 25 cents and dry would have been 5 or 10 cents. The old coin ops I have seen usually were either a single dime or single quarter. |
Post# 115826 , Reply# 39   3/17/2006 at 07:28 (6,608 days old) by customline (pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Number 7 is a beautiful addition. |
Post# 115837 , Reply# 40   3/17/2006 at 08:16 (6,608 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Now I understand all the guff I got sneaking into laundry rooms. Tell NO ONE this next story: We had a similar set up in my neighborhood in a long brick apartment block down at the end of our street. But there were stairs down to it from the apartments and at each end of the basement there was a door outside. So it was perfect for little neighborhood kids to run right through. We'll our gang leader Jay took us through one day, the building was full of just starting out couples and low income screamers. Which to our advantage,meant that the women were all really pregnant and didn't want to bother going down the stairs to chase us out. Instead they would yell epithets down on us from the top of the stairs which made us insolent, very insolent so we would run out grab some sticks and stones run back in the other end and scream like indians and open the lids on all the running machines and throw the sticks and stones inside, crank the dials around in mid cycle ( that was my idea) then run out the other end of the basement and on home way, way down the street!! Not a proud moment in washerdom but alot of drama! I was damn lucky my mother never found out. The whole Morrow Street gang was lucky their mothers never found out either!! Dadoes thanks for the pointer I see the place where the button selector went now. Hey Glenn, my sister finally got the matching top load dryer to her FP machine. She hooked the gas up herself which scares the heck out of me but so far she hasn't blown up yet! I'll try to get pictures out of her! jon |
Post# 115849 , Reply# 41   3/17/2006 at 09:21 (6,608 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Is the switch double pole, double throw? How did you get to do what was needed? Steve it’s a single pole double throw switch. Since I didn't have a wiring diagram for this Cissel water temp switch/timer I had to do some electrical tracing to figure this out. Turns out it was pretty easy, here is how it works. The fill circuit has two lines, the black line (connected from the timer to the water temp switch and the blue line connected directly from the timer into the cold water valve. For wash, the timer sends 120 volts of current into black line only. The black line connects into my new toggle switch. -When the switch is in the "up" position the switch transfers the electricity to the red wire which is connected directly to the hot solenoid, this makes the washer fill will hot water. -When the switch is in the "down" position the switch transfers the electricity to the blue wire which is connected directly to the cold solenoid, this makes the washer fill will cold water. -When the switch is in the "middle" position the switch transfers the electricity to the both the red and blue wires which energizes both solenoids so the hot and cold water is mixed into a warm fill. Now for the Rinse Cycle: The timer energizes the black wire to the toggleswitch just like for the wash cycle, but the difference here is the timer also energizes the blue wire which is connected directly to the cold solenoid. Since the timer is providing power to the cold solenoid directly the cold solenoid is always on during rinse fills. But the timer also energizes the black line so if the switch is in the "up" or "middle" the hot solenoid will also be turned on during the rinse fill. If the switch is in the lower position its only sending power to the cold line (which already is getting power directly from the timer) and makes for a cold rinse. Clear as Mud? |
Post# 115914 , Reply# 42   3/17/2006 at 16:48 (6,608 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 115951 , Reply# 43   3/17/2006 at 20:14 (6,608 days old) by southernmdgeguy ()   |   | |
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It is great to see how that special timer worked, and to see number 7 come alive! Awesome work! Thanks for the pictures and the explanations. Scott |
Post# 116034 , Reply# 44   3/18/2006 at 09:18 (6,607 days old) by hoover1060 ()   |   | |
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Robert.. is that the original agitator for that machine? I thought unimatics had the older style looking ones? |
Post# 116122 , Reply# 45   3/18/2006 at 23:32 (6,607 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 116292 , Reply# 46   3/19/2006 at 16:27 (6,606 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Even though the 3-Ring agitator had its pretty colors and awesome rollover powers, the Deep Action space capsule agitator is still my favorite. But, boyhowdy, did it ever use up a lot of tub space! Thanks for the pics, Robert! From 1967-69 my sister lived in an apt. building with a Frigidaire coin-op. I used to live with her in the summer and I'd spend many hours doing laundry and watching it work. I eventually scavenged a cap for the agitator, which made the window-view much clearer. I loved the short cycle---it meant the 'show' could be replayed over several times an hour. As I recall, two quarters was all it took to fire it up... |
Post# 116323 , Reply# 48   3/19/2006 at 20:08 (6,606 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 1130044 , Reply# 50   9/30/2021 at 21:04 (932 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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