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Thread Number: 54522
HELP! New dishwasher not dissolving powder detergent! |
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| Post# 769160 , Reply# 2 7/8/2014 at 14:46 (3,572 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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Oh yeah, it does 2 pre washes, and it washes, pauses and does that about 7 times then drains and then does it again for the next cycle and drains then it begins the main wash. The water was 118f. | ||
Post# 769163 , Reply# 3 7/8/2014 at 14:53 (3,572 days old) by henene4  (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Hmm... .... actualy, which DW do you have again? Anyway, next time, use your powder and the usual cycle you would use and just let it finish. Than we'll see if it is a real problem or not! | ||
| Post# 769164 , Reply# 4 7/8/2014 at 14:53 (3,572 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
confused? | ||
| Post# 769174 , Reply# 5 7/8/2014 at 15:32 (3,572 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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Its the kenmore 15113. Its a basic model since we hardly use it, say once a week. We also use the cascade clean series dishwasher powder. I will update you the next time I use the powder. | ||
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Post# 769196 , Reply# 6 7/8/2014 at 17:16 (3,572 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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How Old Is This Dish Detergent Powder and How Was it Stored?
If the stuff is old and or was improperly stored you ought to sling it and buy fresh new detergent.
Detergent powder for automatic dishwashers is famous for absorbing moisture and or developing all sorts of problems if kept around too long. It is why the stuff historically came in foil wrapped boxes with warnings to keep the container tightly closed between uses. Also one is not supposed to store the product in warm/damp environments such as under a kitchen sink. It is also not recommended for domestic users to purchase huge drums of such detergents unless they can use the product quickly. What you can do is take a glass measuring cup or large drinking glass and fill with the hottest tap water possible. Take about a teaspoon of your dw powder, add to glass and stir briskly. If large amounts of the stuff are clumping up and or remaining not dissolved it may have gone past it's sell by date. If even after allowing the mixture to sit for awhile and much of the powder still wont dissolve then stick a fork in it, it is done. You can try the above using a glass jar with a tight sealing lid. However caution needs to be used when shaking such a closed vessel full of hot water. This post was last edited 07/08/2014 at 18:50 | ||
| Post# 769241 , Reply# 8 7/8/2014 at 20:55 (3,572 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
Just wondering.. | ||
| Post# 769286 , Reply# 9 7/8/2014 at 23:42 (3,572 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Strange -
because I'm on my last box of institutional Cascade power which came from a case of 6 I bought maybe 2 or more years ago. This last box is clumping and I'm sure it's past its date, but everything still dissolves fine. I still like the Finish Powerball better but I like that the Ins. Cascade has bleach.
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| Post# 769394 , Reply# 12 7/9/2014 at 12:40 (3,571 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Glenfieldmathk
when are ye gonna stop spouting crap? Ive NEVER had a dishwasher thats left it 15 minutes into a cycle before dispensing detergent. Vintage, Modern, Brand new. NONE, NOTHING, NEVER. 3 to 4 mins at most into the main wash at the most. Please feel free to name makes and model numbers here please. I would like to know what does this 15 minute thing. | ||
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Post# 769399 , Reply# 13 7/9/2014 at 12:54 (3,571 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 769402 , Reply# 14 7/9/2014 at 12:56 (3,571 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 769409 , Reply# 15 7/9/2014 at 13:17 (3,571 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 769412 , Reply# 16 7/9/2014 at 13:25 (3,571 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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That sound about right | ||
| Post# 769416 , Reply# 18 7/9/2014 at 13:37 (3,571 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I'm not talking about the MAIN wash. I'm talking about it taking about 15 minutes from the time the dishwasher is turned on (starts washing) whatever. The point where you press start (around 10 to 15 min's beyond that point) It fills, does a pre wash, drains, then fills to start main wash, then about 2 min's after the main wash starts, you hear the detergent drawer pop open. It's been this way for a LONG time.
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| Post# 769420 , Reply# 19 7/9/2014 at 13:51 (3,571 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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Oh thats what you meant LOL. But I have something else that makes this even more strange. On our old dishwasher, everything would look clean with powder. But, the glasses from visual also looked good. But when you filled them with water, suds would form on the sides. | ||
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Post# 769422 , Reply# 20 7/9/2014 at 13:54 (3,571 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Off topic | ||
| Post# 770186 , Reply# 22 7/12/2014 at 10:15 (3,568 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
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I used to own a Kenmore Ultrawash... And the Prewash lasts exactly 14 minutes. After that, it drains, and refills for the main wash, the heating element kicks on, and the detergent tray pops open (it's a loud click) and the wash arms start.
I kinda wonder, if you were waiting long enough for it to even open? I mean, that maybe your problem right there. Another thing is Powder, doesn't all just fall out, some of the time it sticks in the cup, and takes about 4-5 minutes, to fully dissolve from the water from the top spray arm.
Set a timer for 35 minutes, and see if it's fully dissolved than. If it's not, you need to switch to detergents, probably best to try a Liquid, or Gel first, and then packets.
TL;DR - Give the machine more time for detergent to dissolve. If it's still not working, switch to Liquid, or Gel detergent. | ||
| Post# 770204 , Reply# 24 7/12/2014 at 11:20 (3,568 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
I think Kenmore has called every dishwasher an Ultra Wash for as long as I can remember. My granddad has a Kenmore Elite dishwasher with the Point Voyager design (tall tub, round sump at the bottom with large arch shaped holes in the grate, and the Thunderbolt shaped stainless steel wash arm) and even it's called an Ultra Wash on the manual for some reason. I believe what they're referring to above is the original UltraWash, which was synonymous and identical to the Whirlpool PowerClean module systems. These are standard tub, with the large pump and filter system that is above tub rather than hidden beneath the machine. Sears Kenmore probably liked the sound of it and never changed it from the manuals lol.
Still, with the upper arm having jets that spray outward to both propel it and spray directly towards the detergent cup, it's odd that everything wouldn't dissolve. I'd try Finish Powerball tabs. They seem to work the best and have no problem dissolving in ours. I opened the door without realizing the cup had already opened, because they Maytag's is quiet when it pops, and I couldn't find the tab anywhere. It smelled really nice in there though :) | ||
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