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Post# 770236 , Reply# 5   7/12/2014 at 13:38 (3,569 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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The 3224 Keymatic - 1961 to 1964 .... |
Post# 770237 , Reply# 6   7/12/2014 at 13:41 (3,569 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Might be some interesting bits and bobs here, though the thread was set up to reference the Model 3226 Keymatic: CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK |
Post# 778434 , Reply# 14   8/21/2014 at 07:24 (3,529 days old) by slimstar ()   |   | |
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Hello again folks, So I've had a sneaky peek under her skirts and this is what I've found...
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Post# 778444 , Reply# 17   8/21/2014 at 09:02 (3,529 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)   |   | |
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As to the comment questioning why Hoover switched away from the tilted drum...I certainly can't say, but US manufacturers did the same. Slant-fronted Westinghouse machines (for instance) over here were on the market for many years, but eventually gave way to the flat-front design that became pretty much universally accepted. It probably had to do with taking up less floor space in the home and/or making them fit the same footprint as a top-loader so that buyers could have their choice without having to worry about measurements. With the advent of the stackables and under-counter models, the slant-front and tilted tub would stick out into the room a bit.
All that being said, I DO get a smile that tilted drums have returned in modern front loaders (like my LG Tromm) and are a selling point, even though the tilt is no where near the angle of the old slant fronts. |
Post# 778460 , Reply# 18   8/21/2014 at 13:23 (3,529 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)   |   | |
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Hi Alex
Now that’s what I call a classic machine, bit of a challenge the condition she is in but that’s how I love to find them. Take your time and savour the work ahead of you, it’s surprising how much can be done over a few months of odd jobbing. Solutions to problems suddenly come and it's done and onto the next, good luck and keep us updated with your progress. Lee PS Include as many photos as you can, it’s great for those of us who don’t get to see a classic like this. |
Post# 778471 , Reply# 19   8/21/2014 at 14:45 (3,529 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Alex, glad another one is saved but you do have a bit of a challenge on your hands - the pump original was massive on this keymatic with a large induction motor to cope with the large volume of water, we have swapped 2 out now with modern ones and they work just as well....As Chris says I think your front suspension wire has snapped and dropped the drum, you can see the lower right hand gear pulley drive has smashed into the lower terminal block and cracked the corner off..This happened to mine and I lost the complete top cover!!
Also the LHS main top spring is looking stretched and out of align. yup the whole of the pulsator clutch drive and solenoid is missing, I have a few keyplates but non of this model and they will be unique to the individual programmer in this machine, this model alone had 6 different timers and updated wiring looms, non interchangeable - probably unless someone ever deceides to scrap a model or we find a breaker then not sure what can be achieved, please dont get too disheatened we dont know what is still out there!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK
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Post# 778476 , Reply# 20   8/21/2014 at 14:51 (3,529 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Heres a pic showing the thin support wire and where it goes, they can be made as Chris mentioned from cycle gear link wires...simple but important.
You can see here where the wire has snapped either side of the large main tub suspension spring and is stretching the hell out of the very fragile door boot...
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Post# 778480 , Reply# 21   8/21/2014 at 15:00 (3,529 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Here you can see a replacement suspension wire where it should be, around the pulley wheel and under the drum front lower lip to the other side..
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Post# 778490 , Reply# 24   8/21/2014 at 15:54 (3,529 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Alex, take a deep breath and hold onto it, keep polishing the beauty, realistically its gonna take a few men, hours and input to get it working...as well as spare parts, I did wonder if Hoover actually removed the pulsator clutch and solenoid when they did disable them when modified, but that doesnt explain the missing pulsator itself.
They are a labour of love, very complicated and need a lot of nurtureing, please dont do anything rash, have you repaired any washers or fully restored any at all? |
Post# 778757 , Reply# 27   8/22/2014 at 17:32 (3,528 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)   |   | |
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Chris, we have got to see a video of that! World's fastest cycle! |
Post# 778885 , Reply# 28   8/23/2014 at 10:04 (3,527 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)   |   | |
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I'm afraid I no longer own a working Keymatic. I have one restoration project which needs a motor... |
Post# 778901 , Reply# 29   8/23/2014 at 13:17 (3,527 days old) by slimstar ()   |   | |
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Hey Chris , Just to say I hope all is well? And that you are a complete star!! It's also great to know that it's possible to find a keyplate that will work. I'll drop you a proper email soon. But honestly mr thank you ! |
Post# 779087 , Reply# 31   8/24/2014 at 15:28 (3,526 days old) by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))   |   | |
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