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Post# 769970   7/11/2014 at 11:30 (2,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        

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Don't see many of these over here - still 110V

Al


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Post# 769992 , Reply# 1   7/11/2014 at 13:48 (2,052 days old) by peterlondon (london uk)        
G E stove

Hey Al
Saw this a couple of days ago,all electric cookers are 220 so this will function ok here.
I am just at a loss though how the outlets give 110 and the stove input is 220.
I wonder if the seller has any other kitchen goodies
pete


Post# 770040 , Reply# 2   7/11/2014 at 17:31 (2,052 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
120/240V

Pete, the US residential grid works with two live wires and one neutral wire. With the two live wires you get 240V, with either live and neutral you get 120V. In this stove only the lights, clock and power outlet work with 120V, all heating units are for 240V.

Through the years I have connected for myself, friends and family members many American electric stoves (and electric dryers) here in Buenos Aires, you only need a very small 220V/110V step-down transformer, with a 200W capacity at the most (if you're not planning to use the 120V power outlets, of course).

I could send you an electric diagram if you wanted one!


Post# 770042 , Reply# 3   7/11/2014 at 17:39 (2,052 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Downside

The downside of these heavy load electric stoves is that they should be connected to a one phase 240V circuit, with a 40A capacity (30A for the dryers). This usually complicates matters a bit, at least here in Buenos Aires, where smaller residences only have a one phase 220V, 30A electric supply for the whole house; larger houses have a three phase 380/220V, 50A supply, or even larger.

Post# 770047 , Reply# 4   7/11/2014 at 17:54 (2,052 days old) by peterlondon (london uk)        
120/240

HI Thor
Gotcha now I understand.
I have myself a canadian moffat range.This also has an outlet on it,when I checked the voltage through it it was giving 240.
I guess the two "Hots" have been put togther on my stove.
Probably why the the lights blew though!
Love love love these American ranges.Problem here in the UK is this kind of range is genrally bigger than the kitchen.
Also the American ranges have bigger wattage burners than our stoves..(30amps genrally enough for a uk cooker
A diagram always useful when you get some time
Muchas gracias
pete


Post# 770049 , Reply# 5   7/11/2014 at 18:06 (2,052 days old) by peterlondon (london uk)        
uk stoves

All cookers here are hard wired into 30 circuits Houses and flats normally have around 100amp main fuse.
The first place we lived in spain only had 15amps for the whole house.So it was either cook,wash or dry.But never at the same time.
Then we had the maximum upgrade which was a whole 40amps.....party time!
pete


Post# 770058 , Reply# 6   7/11/2014 at 18:35 (2,052 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
De nada Pete!

I'll have to look up for the wiring diagram, I know it's somehwere around the house.

Your Moffat range has surely been unproperly connected; if 240V were fed to the 120V circuit the clock, buzzer and lights must be fried by now!

The proper step-down transformer to be used in the set-up has to be of the "auto transformer" type (by far the most common type). For a stove a 200W transformer is more than enough (if there's no convenction blower), for a dryer a 500W transformer is needed (the main drive motor is 120V, as well as the timer and panel or interior lights, if any). In gas dryers it's much easier: you just connect the whole dryer to a 120V step-down transformer. Since the igniter is 120V, so you'll need a 750W transformer.

Never mind the 50/60Hz issue. You'll just have slower running clocks, timers and any kind of motors, but that doesn't hurt in a dryer.

I'll look up for the wiring diagram!


Post# 770059 , Reply# 7   7/11/2014 at 18:40 (2,052 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Sorry...

...I meant convection blower!

Post# 770064 , Reply# 8   7/11/2014 at 19:02 (2,052 days old) by peterlondon (london uk)        
cocina

Vali thor, muchas gracias para todo

Post# 770314 , Reply# 9   7/12/2014 at 19:03 (2,051 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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50 and 60hz..... Makes no difference to me...
I have many 120 volt- 60hz appliances, used with 1500 and 2000 watts light weight/portable travel converters and I also have a big 3000 watt heavy multisocket step down one I almost never bother to use, they all work with european 50hz.....
I cannot really tell a difference in matter of speed.....they work just the same as with 60hz..
As pointed out in the US differently than here, they have two 120 volt hot wires going to the house from the pole, and so along with the neutral as we have here of course.... The two 120 togheter, gives 240 volt.
Neutral may eventually go to ground at the pole.....just like here...
A US stove will work over here, the same way an eu 240 appliances will work in the USA from a 240 volt source....
In a stove, light, clocks, fans etc are serviced just by one of the two 120 volt hots pins of the 240 volt american plugs ( two 120 volt hot pins, neutral pin and ground pin) elements are serviced by both togheter and so of course the neutral (same for everything), making 240 volt....
Depending on the stove, you have to spot which is the wire and more than else if it's just one that " feeds" energy to the lights, clock, service plugs etc and so you have to put a transformer to feed these ones... Also depending on the stove wiring you will have to do that separately or you could actually do it just by wiring one wire to the 120 transformer, and the other to regular 240 volt plug.... But it really depends on how the stove is wired inside and how thick the other wire is....
As long as you are practical with these jobs it's an easy thing to solve....




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