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Post# 116109   3/18/2006 at 22:32 (6,603 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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..there's a G.E....

Bob asked if I would scan this brochure for him, here you go Bob! I'll bet you're all a-tingle thinking about the big load you could wedge into this one. 30 inches of dishwashing heaven! You gotta love the Power Open/Close feature, the height of living electrically!






Post# 116110 , Reply# 1   3/18/2006 at 22:32 (6,603 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Post# 116112 , Reply# 3   3/18/2006 at 22:34 (6,603 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Post# 116114 , Reply# 4   3/18/2006 at 22:39 (6,603 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks Greg and Bob. That was very interesting. Bob you could really get a lot of dishes in that one. Terry

Post# 116120 , Reply# 5   3/18/2006 at 23:30 (6,603 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I didn't realize they made a 30" GE Impeller Dishwasher, I wonder if the impeller was bigger than in the 24" models?

Post# 116177 , Reply# 6   3/19/2006 at 07:49 (6,602 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
WOW

I have been looking for one of these dishwashers for many years now. (I Grew up with one) We had a reg size model & loved the drawer design. I never knew this size was out there. WOW I would love to see & play with one of these. Far better than the bakelite impeller from what I remember. Mike

Post# 116180 , Reply# 7   3/19/2006 at 07:58 (6,602 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

And the lady in the ad doesn't look bad either (ducks and runs)

Post# 116183 , Reply# 8   3/19/2006 at 08:15 (6,602 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
WOWOOO

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I grew up with the 24 inch with the optional walnut front panel but I never knew they made a 30" model. Manh! that 30" thing must have just ROARED! Our 24 inch was WAY TOO Loud. I can just imagine this beast.
That mechanism was horrendous in never cleaned anything, Mom had to completey wash the dishes before they'd come clean.
We moved that thing down to the cape house when Dad bought her a new KD-17. It was a beast down there too but once I was using it and had run out of detergent so I thought in my youth, just a drop of liquid would work. BOY WAS I WRONG!!
It started out just fine thank you but after a few minutes it started to get very quite which I thought was an improvement. Next thing I know my friend Gail is yelling for me to come quick to the machine, so I wheeled around to see a huge white foam tonque oozing out and down from the grillwork to the floor where it spread out into a big half moon. The floor got really clean that night!
She and I spent the balance of the evening scooping buckets of suds up out of the tub. What a mess!!!


Tell no one!

jet



Post# 116197 , Reply# 9   3/19/2006 at 08:53 (6,602 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Wow, what a beast! Thanks for sharing!!

Post# 116250 , Reply# 10   3/19/2006 at 13:20 (6,602 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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What yeaer did this new "style" come one the market--1958 or 1959? This style was basically what was around until the spray-arm dishwashers completely took over in the GE line.

Post# 116256 , Reply# 11   3/19/2006 at 13:28 (6,602 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
I've seen these

When I used to install dishwashers there was a development outside of Schenectady NY in Burnt Hills that had these monsters installed (Schenectady being the home of General Electric's Main Plant). They had that little motor-driven chain that wasnt strong enough to move a fully loaded drawer very well. I had to get 2 - 3" fillers from the Montgomery Wards kitchen dept (they also sold metal cabintes) to fill in the additional 6 inches to finish the install..... must have replaced 6 or 7 at least.....who knew?

Post# 116267 , Reply# 12   3/19/2006 at 14:32 (6,602 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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1957

Post# 116275 , Reply# 13   3/19/2006 at 15:43 (6,602 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Thanks Gansky

That or the 24" are one of the few labor saving
devices of the midtwentieth century that I would absolutely
covet!!!!


Post# 116281 , Reply# 14   3/19/2006 at 16:01 (6,602 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I'd love to have a 30" dishwasher. Didn't some company make one recently, only to pull it from the market due to excessive repair problems? I suppose the obvious major stumbling block would be opening up all those standard 24" DW spaces...

Thanks for posting the brochure!


Post# 116427 , Reply# 15   3/20/2006 at 06:29 (6,602 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Never cleaned ??????

I grew up with the 24'model & loved it so much I am still looking for another. You had to rince off the nastey stuff but ours cleaned very well if loaded right. I have heard a few say these machine were not good performers . Might be water preasure (high) & water conditions butOurs cleaned very well & if loaded right it held a ton of dishes & pots & pans. The bowtie impeller was a big plus over the bakelite ones by far. Mike

Post# 116432 , Reply# 16   3/20/2006 at 06:50 (6,601 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Lid mount spray rince

The roll out I grew up with did not have a top spray on the lid. I did not even know they were in any of these models untill I found out through this club. Did this 30" model have a top sprayer or was it on portables TOL only ? Thanks Mike

Post# 116459 , Reply# 17   3/20/2006 at 08:37 (6,601 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Greg, Thanks! One positive way of dating this as a 57 is to look at the shot down into the center of the tub. At first, these had a very coarse grill over the impeller. By 58, it was a plastisol-coated grid made up of maybe 1.25 inch squares. By 1959, that had been replaced with stainless steel "hardware cloth" with 1/2 inch squares which they stuck with until the intro of the wash arm models. The Power Shower came out in 59 and there was a built-in with it. It was the 24" 4 cycle roll out. John has one of the chain drive mechanisms for this machine. It ran like a garage door opener, but without a remote control.

We had two GE portables, the older one with the pink interior and then the very deluxe, all white exterior squared off machine with the blue Plastisol tub & lid with white racks. Friends bought it for their apartment and when they moved to the DC area, we sold ours and bought theirs since it was newer and had not had the use ours had. I don't know if it was the Power Shower or the reduction in water changes, but the new one did not wash quite as well as the old one, not that we took dirty dishes out of it, but there were certain things it did not clean as well. It was beautiful and had a very distinguised beige and white stripe pattern Texolite top with subtle gold flecks. The young family that bought our house in 1967 sure looked forward to having a dishwasher. Like all of the dishwashers of the period, the Utility and Utensil/Pots & Pans cycle was not a pot-smasher cycle, but a slightly shortened wash cycle with no dry to sort of prewash heavily soiled pans, supposedly during the meal, so that it would be ready to be unloaded when the dishes were cleared from the table and the pots could be finished by hand. We did not do things that way.


Post# 116871 , Reply# 18   3/22/2006 at 03:52 (6,600 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Dacor

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Was the maker, however short of a 30" dishwasher. Remember seeing information and pictures about it on Appliancemag.com.

L


Post# 116896 , Reply# 19   3/22/2006 at 07:42 (6,599 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
It was Dacor...

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I think Mark, lightedcontrols had one of these in his house but Dacor and their service reps. could never get the machine to run through a complete cycle. I heard Dacor recalled them all and even paid for another dishwasher and whatever cabinet/space alterations might be necessary to install a 24" machine in it's place. It must have cost Dacor a fortune.


Post# 116902 , Reply# 20   3/22/2006 at 08:09 (6,599 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
how cool!

My parent's house had the Hotpoint version of that Disposall in their current house when they bought it. It would eat almost anything!

Post# 116908 , Reply# 21   3/22/2006 at 08:42 (6,599 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

A 24" D* was "saved" late one night from behind a Belchville* appliance store. J* took two scrapped 30" machines apart and saved all of the important parts down to little bitty pieces, so there is one example, at least, of this machine preserved for posterity. *Names have been changed to protect the identities of the entities involved.

Jon, I have to believe that there was something terrible wrong with your GE, like a bad motor if it made all of that noise and washed so poorly. Every Thursday night our next door neighbor made smashed potatoes in her 2.5 quart MirroMatic pressure pan and every Thursday night that pan went directly from the stove to the lower rack of her 1958 GE without scraping. My mother was scandalized because what remained in the pan was not saved. They did not have a disposer, so unless it went into the garbage, it went into the dishwasher. Both households kept the water heaters close to 160. Each family had a baby and the only time that the baby bottles came out of our GE less than clean was when somebody did not close the top of the two part detergent cup so that it never dispensed, but was left with water sitting over the detergent.


Post# 116910 , Reply# 22   3/22/2006 at 08:46 (6,599 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
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I saw one of these at a store here in Little Rock. It was an interesting machine to look at but seemed odd because it was so big. I always wondered how well it worked.

Post# 116919 , Reply# 23   3/22/2006 at 09:31 (6,599 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
I have two 30

I still have the two 30" Dacor machines that I thought would be fun to play with. Dacor replaced the first one and then paid to have the second one removed and the cabinets redone and a dishwasher of my choice installed. The washability was the BEST I've ever had. It had wash arms, spray tubes, a great heater but bad engineering. NEVER had a better washing dishwasher, but the nice people at Dacor just couldn't make them work. Mark

Post# 116923 , Reply# 24   3/22/2006 at 09:54 (6,599 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh God Tom

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I remember that too! If you didn't close that soap dispenser just right you were scooping goop out of it refilling and redoing the cycle!

Thanks for the time line I was fuzzy on ours! We moved into our house in 1957 and we had a dishwasher for a couple years before we got a dryer in 1961. So our pullout was a 1958 model. It had the plastisol 1.25 squares and no spray on the top. I always placed it at the same time as the dryer 1961.
But now that I think of it Dad did the entire kitchen over after we moved in. He put in the built in stove GE! the pink wall fridge GE!, the GE Disposall and the D/W so my memory is off it was done in 1958 or 1959. I remember being very young. A tender 3 or 4.
In Schenectady stock could sit around a year before it got sold. Since Dad bought everything at the GE employee store, they got a huge discount but it was last years appliances.

Maybe we did have a bad machine it was LOUD and never really worked that well. We were all glad to see it go.


Post# 116940 , Reply# 25   3/22/2006 at 11:20 (6,599 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
GE detergent cups

After the two part cup came the rectangular cup with the attached lid in the same position. This one did not depend on a magnet to dump, it just had a spring release triggered by the timer shaft like the later door mounted dispensers. At least they did not dump the stuff at the start of the wash fill like the door-mounted D&M dispensers. They would throw the dry detergent on the wet items and it sat until the machine finished filling and then started circulating. It would leave specks on aluminum. With the GE, the motor was running during the fills. This newer dispenser was not without its design flaws. If, after pouring the detergent into it, you did not carefully brush any remaining grains of detergent from the little edge against which the cap rested when closed, the lightweight cap did not seal well. Sometimes the water action would open the lid during the prerinse and water would get in and make it too goopy to dispense when it flipped over. Maybe that was exacerbated by the Power Shower in that machine. I'm still not convinced it did that much. Maybe it helped if there was lots of food soil, although we did not have trouble with our original GE. I know that the 21 and 22 Superbas I tried that did not have the constant rinse were bad about throwing food up on top of a glass or something in the top rack and it just stayed. It would have been nice if those early dishwashers had all been sound insulated double tub machines. When we had a lot of plates in the GEs, they caused the water to be thrown more against the insulated lid than the tub walls and it would be much quieter.

Post# 116989 , Reply# 26   3/22/2006 at 16:30 (6,599 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
I sure miss our old GE Pull Out

The one we had did not have a power shower but when loaded right did a great job. The one at the cottage was a BOL portable. Now that one was much louded. Still did a great job but would have been better with a power shower. Still looking & if the dishwasher GOD smiles I will find another roll out & replace one of the newer built in's I have in my kitchen. Mike

Post# 116990 , Reply# 27   3/22/2006 at 16:32 (6,599 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
30

I would remodel my new kitchen for a 30" GE Roll Out. Mike

Post# 116992 , Reply# 28   3/22/2006 at 16:37 (6,599 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
GE Trade?????

Hell I would trade my next to mint KD11 that I use every day for a GE Roll Out Mike

Post# 117059 , Reply# 29   3/22/2006 at 21:18 (6,599 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Tom, all of the GE roll-outs I ever were exposed to had that rectangular cup dispenser. My Aunts, who built their house in like 1959 or 1960 and my Grandmother when she moved into a high-rise apartment. Both of these were that light, tannish brown color. The apartment kitchen even had the GE cabinets. I always loved those enameled cabinets. What year would these units be then? And they both had the pink interiors.

Post# 117602 , Reply# 30   3/25/2006 at 13:57 (6,596 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
The GE Pink Panther

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Thank you for that posting; what a surprise to learn that once again, GE was ahead of its time and introduced a long lost 30" built-in dishwasher. When you think about it though, the 24" square format is elegant and almost perfect. I'd rather have two different dishwashers (especially today) than one big fat honker.

WE owned a 1961 TOL 24" version of this machine. It was a roll-out; it had the classic pink epoxy interior with the newer style light-red plastic cutlery basket that would appear in later blue/white Mobile-Maid models that I've seen depicted on this site. It had four cycles: HEAVY SOIL (GE pink button),NORMAL SOIL, POTS AND PANS ( Which meant, I learned later on when I discovered the manual in my father's file cabinet, that the heating coil was turned off during the drying cycle--predecessor to "Energy Saver" option) and a true FINE CHINA AND CRYSTAL cycle where the machine actually aerated the spray to make it gentler. I remember showing my mother, again after actually reading the manual, that those two strange spiky rack-rods at the top of the tub were actually a third -level of brilliantly designed auxilliary cup racks! So six years after installing the thing we were getting better use out of it. A forgivable "Beverly Hillbillies" moment on our part. Although we bitched about the access to the lower rack of this machine, I too am nostalgic about it. It cleaned flawlessly and it was extremely quiet for its day. It was solid as a US tank and I remember the day that my father and I removed it to replace it with an excellent KitchenAid Custom KC-17 model, how impressed we were with how well it was engineered and how it was designed to be installed as an empty casing first, with all plumbing and electrical connections made easily and conveniently. Once that installation was complete, all one had to do was slide the unit, like a drawer, into the housing. I was also impressed, the day we removed it, that it had a black plastic "power-shower". Who knew? I've told many people about it now that the Fisher/Paykel plastic drawers are all the rage. Pity that they're such flimsy toys. GE really produced some great works of industrial art in its heyday.

Here's my depiction of the model we owned and a scan from an ad for GE's 1960 "Golden Anniversary" line of appliances featuring a similar 24-inch unit


Post# 117611 , Reply# 31   3/25/2006 at 15:50 (6,596 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

I actually prefer top-loading dishwashers. We had a 1961 Westy roll-out dishwasher and it did a fantastic job for an impeller machine. Spotless glasses and flatware, and very very quiet. It also had forced air drying. Not only that, it held an amazing amount of dishes, and held utility and odd-shaped items better than my current WP front load dishwasher.

Post# 117620 , Reply# 32   3/25/2006 at 16:24 (6,596 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Wow! That's a great depiction of the interior! Did you do that on a CAD program?

Post# 117730 , Reply# 33   3/26/2006 at 08:44 (6,595 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Thanks. I did it with a program called Free Hand 7. Problem was/is, the files are so huge, it took me some time with the webmaster's help to figure out how to translate them to JPEG files small enough to post to this site. I was so excited to discover and become a member of this club ( and SO grateful to all you members for the wealth of infomation that I've picked up for my project) that my first attempts to post the images failed. Unfortunately, a lot of detail has been lost but you get the idea.

Post# 117749 , Reply# 34   3/26/2006 at 10:23 (6,595 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Next to New

If not mistaken Filterflo had a 24" one that I fell in love with. I am sure he emailed me that he scraped it because of the rust. WAY TOO BAD Mike

Post# 117864 , Reply# 35   3/26/2006 at 20:15 (6,595 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Next to new

Georgious machine

Post# 117875 , Reply# 36   3/26/2006 at 21:02 (6,595 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Bajaespuma, what was so special about the heavy soil/pink button? BTW, that is one beautiful machine on the outside. And that fin china cycle with the aerated water, well, it's probably no different than my 1986 GSD1200---just a partial fill of normal amount of water.

Post# 117953 , Reply# 37   3/27/2006 at 06:31 (6,595 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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Thank you.It was pink, which, of course, made any compulsive button pusher want to use it; I think it attenuated the PRE-WASH and WASH portions of the cycle. No kidding, my mother may have used the FINE CHINA cycle a couple of times in the life of the machine. Besides that, the NORMAL button was always the one engaged. I remember going with my parents to a charming appliance store in Centerbrook Connecticut called "Bombace's" (a converted Shell Oil Gas Station--he was the local GE dealer and where they bought the used GE 1960 filter-flo that I seek)and telling Mr. Bombace, as he tried to persuade her to buy a 1964 model with a couple of cycles including "RINSE and HOLD" that she only ever used one button and would be dammned if she was going to spend money on any machine with more than one cycle. By then GE had changed their built-ins from pink roll-outs to Blue and White drop-down doors. It was actually a pretty good dishwasher she bought that day (an SD-103, I believe).

Post# 118102 , Reply# 38   3/27/2006 at 19:50 (6,594 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
the Roll out is the best design

I wish they still made the GE pull out, pink interiour dishwasher . I would pay the $$$$$ for it. Nice dishwasher Mike

Post# 118124 , Reply# 39   3/27/2006 at 21:59 (6,594 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Using a similar loading patter to the SD403, my GSD1200 would only hold 13 dinner plates rather than the 16 in the pic.

Post# 118167 , Reply# 40   3/28/2006 at 00:33 (6,594 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
taking a look at the book

Michael,could you be so kind as to scan that instruction book for us?I think we'd all love it.

Post# 118168 , Reply# 41   3/28/2006 at 00:49 (6,594 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
oops!

Sorry Mike,just noticed that you don't actually have one,perhaps ganskyl has the instruction book for the 30,if so could that be scanned?Thanks;Dave

Post# 118334 , Reply# 42   3/28/2006 at 16:28 (6,593 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
booklet

I'm sure it was FilterFlo that had this machine. Mike

Post# 118343 , Reply# 43   3/28/2006 at 16:50 (6,593 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That brochure is the only info I have on the 30" model GE, it would be interesting to see the loading examples in the owner's manual though...


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