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Speed Queen Dishwasher!!
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Post# 776851   8/12/2014 at 05:56 (3,926 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )        

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Anyone here have one? I know its D&M! But still cool. This is listed on kijiji

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Post# 776854 , Reply# 1   8/12/2014 at 06:11 (3,926 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

There is a Kelvinator in the museum which washes dishes without big fins moving in an eccentric orbit. It is before the days of WCI so it, too, is a D&M.

I don't seem to remember SQ kitchen appliances so your find is rare. At least Kelvinator had ranges and refrigerators so the DW was a logical addition to the product line while the SQ DW would always be an orphan in the kitchen.


Post# 776856 , Reply# 2   8/12/2014 at 06:46 (3,926 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
Cool Find....

Maybe they wanted to compete with Maytag?  There where many years after the "Dutch Oven Range" with only Maytag dishwashers and disposers in the kitchen. 


Post# 776871 , Reply# 3   8/12/2014 at 08:23 (3,926 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA)        

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SQ had a full line in Canada---not so much here in the US.


Post# 776881 , Reply# 4   8/12/2014 at 09:16 (3,926 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Nice to see in reality - I think I have a service/parts book for SQ dishwashers.  I would imagine they offered a full-line of products to give their dealers an edge, especially smaller dealers.  IIRC there is a cook-n-clean range (upper oven, cooktop and dishwasher below) badged Speed Queen in my doctrine as well.


Post# 776926 , Reply# 5   8/12/2014 at 13:50 (3,926 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I'm sure it's in Caloric's clothing... (w/ D&M innards)



-- Dave


Post# 776927 , Reply# 6   8/12/2014 at 13:57 (3,926 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Nice find! 

 

I have never seen a SQ dishwasher! Here are a few other non-laundry SQ appliances.

I'm still searching for a 1960's SQ washer that would match my dryer and even those are hard to find now!


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Post# 776975 , Reply# 7   8/12/2014 at 18:38 (3,926 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The microwave could have qualified as befitting the Speed Queen moniker, but I'd think the oven, range, and cooktops would be Hot Queen.  Food storage Frosty Queen.


Post# 776984 , Reply# 8   8/12/2014 at 19:23 (3,926 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Hot Queen, or Speed cooker!


Post# 777021 , Reply# 9   8/12/2014 at 23:42 (3,925 days old) by A440 ()        

This is very cool!
I remember seeing the "All in one units" in several apartments in Chattanooga, TN.
Oven on top followed by stove top and dishwasher on the bottom. (where another oven should be)
I think the other badges for this type of set up was Modern Maid.
Why won't Speed Queen make their own USA Dishwasher that used tons of water and has short cycles?!


Post# 777076 , Reply# 10   8/13/2014 at 08:25 (3,925 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

As long as the range was electric, it could be called a Speed Queen.

Post# 777548 , Reply# 11   8/16/2014 at 01:14 (3,922 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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When McGraw Edison sold. Speed Queen and Modern Maid to To Raytheon, they put out a few new products so SQ would have a bit more products possibly increasing sales and getting more recognition for both lines. I saw some of their, popular range/dishwashers,wall ovens and refrigerators SQ tagged but already knew they were Amana and Modern Maid,not SQ.

Post# 778195 , Reply# 12   8/19/2014 at 13:18 (3,919 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)        

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Appnut...or Ice Queen for the freezer! ;)

Post# 1223677 , Reply# 13   2/5/2025 at 14:52 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
Speed Queen Dishwashers!

They need to start making these! I'm so sick and tired of new dishwashers giving out 1-5 years old! Most of them just sprits your dishes, not wash them! And they take over 3 hours! Speed Queen, you need to start producing dishwashers! Rant over! Sick and tired of washing dishes by hand with today's puny dishwashers not performing! Puny pumps giving out all the time! SMH! Call me cranky, but I expect a dishwasher to wash dishes. That is why I have one for. I don't care about looks. I care about results!

Post# 1223762 , Reply# 14   2/6/2025 at 21:51 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Modern dishwashers and modern dishwasher detergents instruct users not to rinse dishes before loading so maybe your washing dishes by hand before loading is why modern dishwashers are not cleaning your dishes well. You are not giving them enough soil to trigger the turbidity sensors so they don't wash long enough. Of course, maybe after giving your dishes a hand job, you are not rinsing them well enough to prevent sudsing in the dishwasher. Maybe instead of shaking your head, you should be reading the instructions.

Post# 1223968 , Reply# 15   2/9/2025 at 16:23 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas))        
pre-rinsing

I never pre-rinse anything, and that is why I have a dishwasher in the first place. If it doesn't wash dishes, I don't want it. Speed Queen, get with the program and get back into the dishwasher market if you haven't! Too many of us want a dishwasher that just washes dishes like they're supposed to! No stupid crap! And I don't need fancy spray arms or stupid wifi! Signed, very cranky member who gets so annoyed by lackluster dishwashers.

Post# 1223973 , Reply# 16   2/9/2025 at 17:01 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Jerome,

Speed Queen as it exists now is unlikely to produce dishwashers.  You are aware that the Speed Queen brand now is owned by Alliance Laundry Systems, which specializes in large-scale commercial laundry equipment.  No residential/kitchen appliances.  Only residential laundry which is an offshoot of the fact that they already produce commercial laundry equipment.

I expect the only way there would be Speed Queen-branded kitchen appliances again is if Alliance sold or licensed the brand to some other manufacturer that already makes kitchen appliances.  And then those items would be rebranded models of what that manufacturer's factories already produce.


Post# 1223990 , Reply# 17   2/9/2025 at 20:18 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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a "like" for the no pre-washing/no pre-rinsing from 'me'!

pre-rinsing & pre-washing is for washing by hand...

 

 

 

-- dave


Post# 1224129 , Reply# 18   2/11/2025 at 12:25 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I've tried not to pre rinse my dishes out before, hated that. Makes the dishwashers stink by letting it sit, got clogged two or three times even after scrapping them off, and doesn't fully clean all the dishes at least on my aunt's LG. I don't care what Jerome thinks but I'm sticking to what my family and I have been doing for years without any problems, I'll always pre rinse my dishes out.

I also don't care what Jerome thinks but SQ will NEVER go back to selling dishwashers, at least as long as they're owned by ALS. They quit selling dishwashers in the first place because there was simply no market for them. Attempting to bring them back is like watering dead plants. Being owned by a laundry company is nearly impossible for them to expand like they once did. I'll say it again, one of the reasons I like SQ is because they're only focused on laundry machines. If they expanded, I'd not like them as much as I used to anymore. This is like what happened with Maytag in the first place, expanded the vacuum market for example by acquiring Hoover was one of the reasons that bankrupted them. Otherwise their best bet to go back to selling dishwashers is by leasing from a company like Hobart. And if Jerome's wish ever happened, I'd never buy a SQ dishwasher.


Post# 1224173 , Reply# 19   2/11/2025 at 19:23 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Scraping food chunks off the dishware is a different thing vs. substantially rinsing them "clean" under a running faucet.


Post# 1224231 , Reply# 20   2/12/2025 at 11:48 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
In 50+ Years I Have NEVER Seen A DW Clogged With FOOD

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Food breaks down in any modern DW if the correct cycles and detergents are used etc.

NO MANUFACTURER recommends pre-rinsing dishes before loading in the DW, it can damage and greatly shorten the life of a DW by always running it with clean dishes, to say nothing of ruining the finish on your DISHES.

John L.


Post# 1224262 , Reply# 21   2/12/2025 at 19:37 by chetlaham (United States)        

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But you'd certainly buy a Power Clean Alex. No more stink or clog.


Post# 1224278 , Reply# 22   2/12/2025 at 23:08 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Powerclean?

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What's a powerclean?

Post# 1224282 , Reply# 23   2/12/2025 at 23:48 by Chetlaham (United States)        

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These, the best cleaning and most energy efficient dishwashers ever created:

 

 

www.uncleharrywizard.com/nephewcl...

 

 

True load and go with zero pre-rinsing.  

 

 


Post# 1224305 , Reply# 24   2/13/2025 at 12:33 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
I see

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Looks similar to my grandparents' and uncle's (then later brother's) Whirlpool. They were good dishwashers but not my favorite because I remember they were rather too noisy for me. That's one of the reasons why I like my KitchenAid the best, I prefer quieter dishwashers. If I had to replace mine, I'd get another one. Unless if I came across with a Power Clean for super cheap or even free for washing other things like my vacuum parts then I wouldn't mind owning one of those in like a garage or basement workshop if I could.

Post# 1224306 , Reply# 25   2/13/2025 at 12:46 by Chetlaham (United States)        

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The noise is dwarfed by the machine's cleaning abilities. Quiet does not equal better. The noise is from having a motor capable of through washing, maceration and flushing soils away. You'll never pre-rinse a dish again or do much pre-treating. You can pack the machine to the point things are on top of one another and everything will always come out spotless. You don't know what you're missing I think.    


Post# 1224309 , Reply# 26   2/13/2025 at 14:04 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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No I'm not missing out, again the Power Cleans (which I've in fact used) were good but not convincing enough for me to switch over because of the noise. Not to mention I'd rather not get a used dishwasher for my kitchen unless if I had no choice. My KitchenAid works just as well as a Power Clean since I've used them both long enough (I always thought they were just called Whirlpool Gold instead of Power Clean). Here's why I prefer pre rinsing my dishes out. I run my dishwasher about once a week. By loading the soiled dishes inside and letting it sit for a while before running is what's causing the smell, worse than letting the dishes sit in the sink. While my KitchenAid has yet had a clog (and based on the design it doesn't look like it would), I'm not risking clogging it since I'm no expert on taking apart or repairing dishwashers and I'm certainly not paying to have someone unclog it. I had to have someone come out long distance to fix my apartment Crosley dishwasher when it got clogged more than once by not pre rinsing. And last but not least, by pre rinsing I'm letting my faucet bleed out the cold water on the dishes before it gets hot enough to start the dishwasher since by starting it I'm already getting hot water which I like. By doing all of that I'm pretty sure that still saved more water than what our first dishwasher used, one of those models where it filled like 15 gallons I think. In the end here, everybody can use and do what they prefer. I'm doing what some other members like Tim (wayupnorth) do with their dishes and I'll also stick with quieter dishwashers.

Post# 1224340 , Reply# 27   2/13/2025 at 23:24 by chetlaham (United States)        

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The thing is, a Power Clean will never clog. Power-cleans come with energy saver, light wash and normal cycles that only use 4.8 and 6.9 gallons of water. This would be an excellent option for partial loads. Or, you could use a 2.2 gallon rinse and hold before running a full wash and dry. Pre-rinsing uses far more water, and with that said you're basically missing a soapy sponge and handwashing them altogether.

 

 

The way I see it 32-46 minutes of noise (Short/Normal/Regular Power Clean Cycles are Quick) is worth not having to pre-rinse or worry about clogging. I think people who dismiss Power Cleans have never utilized or realized their full potential.

 

 

But to each his own.  


Post# 1224347 , Reply# 28   2/14/2025 at 00:54 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I haven't had a dishwasher clog as established from the first one the family got circa 1975/76, nor has prerinsing been established, and I discovered with the first that running Rinse/Hold caused much more odor than not.


Post# 1224364 , Reply# 29   2/14/2025 at 09:32 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Again, no dishwasher has ever been clogged with food

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Because people were not pre-rinsing the dishes, I would like to see proof of that what could possibly clog inside a drain line or something that could’ve easily been rinsed off a dish it’s just not possible dishwashers were never designed to have clean dishes run through them. They simply aren’t engineered and built to run, clean dishes through them from the very beginning of machines manufacturers always touted how you could just put the dishes in dirty and they came out clean.

I know some people who don’t use the dishwasher frequently. Find it handy to use it that way and they can. It’s their dishes and their dishwasher but it can greatly shorten the life of both , but if you use it in frequently it may work for you.

John L


Post# 1224497 , Reply# 30   2/16/2025 at 03:33 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Some people just loves doing busywork.














Post# 1224502 , Reply# 31   2/16/2025 at 08:50 by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL)        
2nd video, Stainless Steel Chopper...

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I have the MDB4949 with the large wash arms as shown. I do a quick rinse before loading, but sometimes some food gets missed. Occasionally, I will open the door to unload and find a stray noodle fragment or piece of lettuce. Last week, there was a nickel size piece of crust waiting for me. It's no big deal to take a swipe with a wet towel, but should that even be necessary?

Post# 1224523 , Reply# 32   2/16/2025 at 12:43 by Chetlaham (United States)        
MDB7979SHZ0

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I have an MDB7979SHZ0 and while its rare to find food on the plate, sometimes bigger chunks like a noodle, lettuce or eff end up on the grate at the end of the wash cycle. I hate it. With a Whirlpool Power Clean module such bits slip through the wide opening, chopped up and flushed away. Tall tubs do not have true soil removal. And of course with the weaker spray you can't do a super packed load with things stacked on top of one another.  


Post# 1224532 , Reply# 33   2/16/2025 at 14:57 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Chet why in the hell do you not have power clean dishwasher if you like them so much?

All your talk is just nonsense. You should practice what you preach.

John L


Post# 1224535 , Reply# 34   2/16/2025 at 15:07 by Chetlaham (United States)        
Practice What You Preach

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Well, if what I was saying was none sense you wouldn't have a Power Clean Module as a daily driver. By your own words you indicated the tall tubs you tried could not handle realistic levels of food soils and got stinky.  So I already know why you prefer a Power Clean.

 

 

As to why I don't have a Power Clean: they no longer make them. If I could get a new 2025 Power Clean in box I would order one this minute.


Post# 1224552 , Reply# 35   2/16/2025 at 17:38 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Reply number 34, the only thing I ever said was the original point Voyagers didn’t wash as well in the top rack. Other people confirm that there have been great improvements made since then I am planning on replacing both of my power clean dishwashers with Maytag or KitchenAid three rack models Sometime in the future.

The reason you don’t have one is cause mommy and daddy won’t let you have one. They’re tired of your nonsense too.

You don’t have to look very long to find a power clean machine that’s in nearly new condition. They made millions of them if you really wanted one.

If you put your talents to good use, you could get a decent job and then afford your own appliances and do your own thing rather than just chastising other people about what they should do.

John


Post# 1224569 , Reply# 36   2/16/2025 at 21:25 by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Reply #7:

 

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

Reply #1:

 

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

 

Plenty of such posts can be found via the search function.

 

 

You don't remember saying since you lack insight into your own projection.

 


Post# 1224701 , Reply# 37   2/18/2025 at 13:18 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I clicked on the links, I noticed John mentioned that the Power Cleans were made up to about 2011. So that got me curious. Is my Whirlpool built KitchenAid KUDS30IVBL3 from 2010 a Power Clean model? I don't know. I never really paid much attention to dishwashers.

Post# 1224709 , Reply# 38   2/18/2025 at 14:41 by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Your model is a point voyager based on the one-line parts diagram.



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