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Thread Number: 55402
Pics of Alliance Laundry factory today |
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| Post# 778021 8/18/2014 at 16:48 (3,531 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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| Post# 778023 , Reply# 1 8/18/2014 at 16:53 (3,531 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA) | ||
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| Post# 778026 , Reply# 2 8/18/2014 at 16:59 (3,531 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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It is something I dream about frontloaderfan. Nightly in fact. | ||
| Post# 778030 , Reply# 3 8/18/2014 at 17:08 (3,531 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
The keynote on the projector screen is relieving. SQ is being smart about how they appeal to customers. Yes they're implementing spray rinses, but only on the -Normal Eco- cycles. Basically, because the energy regulations state that the "normal" cycle has to comply with restrictions, they're giving them a compliant normal, but making a variant that lets the consumer know what their chosen cycle does. I assume that there is a normal "normal" that operates with full wash and full rinse as always. I can feel confident for at least a little while longer I'll have a machine that I can buy new should my WP decide to fail for whatever reason.
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Post# 778034 , Reply# 4 8/18/2014 at 17:34 (3,531 days old) by henene4  (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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SQ = Genious They are probably the first to recognize the possiblity to bypass the water saveing laws. EU producers started that system of label and "normal" cycle a few years back and now, it is standard to have a normal 140°F and an Eco 140°F (dumbed down to anywhere from 120-90°F) cycle. Further, nice to see they'll launch a impeller washer with higher spin in 2018. | ||
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Post# 778040 , Reply# 5 8/18/2014 at 18:51 (3,531 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 778043 , Reply# 6 8/18/2014 at 18:52 (3,531 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Touchpad Set? | ||
| Post# 778045 , Reply# 7 8/18/2014 at 18:54 (3,531 days old) by mtn1584 (USA) | ||
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BYE BYE Water Level Adjustments! How can you adjust up with electronic controls? Mike | ||
| Post# 778047 , Reply# 8 8/18/2014 at 19:09 (3,531 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Adjust? | ||
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Post# 778061 , Reply# 9 8/18/2014 at 20:30 (3,531 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Do you suppose they do the factory's laundry in the Whirlpool?
Great pictures up today, factory tours are always so interesting.
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Post# 778069 , Reply# 10 8/18/2014 at 20:50 (3,531 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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And it's gansky1 For The Win! Do you suppose they're doing some sort of energy/water or cycle comparisons between the SQ and the Whirlpool?
Mike-- Adjusting water level to fill to top of tub: I was wondering if the switchover to electronic controls would affect that, as well. Someone needs to open the console to see if the "dome" is still adjustable. Ben! Hop on their Facebook page and ask if the maximum water level will still be adjustable. It's no secret to them that many consumers--and for that matter their dealers--do this. | ||
| Post# 778075 , Reply# 11 8/18/2014 at 21:10 (3,531 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA) | ||
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Adjust water level Hopefully the water level switch will still allow a level adjustment like the one in our Maytag Epic (Duet clone) in spite of the electronic controls. | ||
| Post# 778082 , Reply# 12 8/18/2014 at 21:49 (3,531 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
Love the look of the 2015 models and the electronics. The panels are sleek looking.I wonder if they will have an electronic sensor system on the dryers to make them HE dryers....The doors on the front loaders look a tad more robust. Did everyone see that in 2018 one can kiss the Flex Vane agitator goodbye and say hello to the "tall post impeller" and a higher spin speed along with no more transmission....so no more coveted 210 arc. At least thats the way I saw it. And an electric drain pump as well.
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Post# 778088 , Reply# 13 8/18/2014 at 22:05 (3,531 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Great Changes Are Coming To SQs TL Washers
I dough that you will be able to adjust the WL on the new washers, We have sold over 300 SQ TL washers and have only turned up the WL on around 10 or less, I Do Not get requests for this and most users under-load anyway.
It will be great to have an electric drain pump and finely have a neutral drain, this will save electricity and a lot of drive belts. My only fear with the new line is the retail price, if it gets much higher they will lose a lot of sales. | ||
| Post# 778090 , Reply# 14 8/18/2014 at 22:14 (3,531 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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I just posted on their page Since they sent me some merchandise along with a personal note from Reid Meissner a while back along with the emblem, perhaps they will disclose some information to me. One has hopes................ | ||
| Post# 778094 , Reply# 15 8/18/2014 at 22:27 (3,531 days old) by DigAPony () | ||
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only turned up the WL on around 10 or less Ah, but is customer informed the water level can be adjusted on their new SQ TL? | ||
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Post# 778099 , Reply# 16 8/18/2014 at 22:50 (3,531 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Yes I have mentioned to most customers and NONE have seen it
as a problem. The only ones we turned up are the pair we installed at our local veterinary clinic because of the really dirty stuff they wash and because they are chronic over-loaders, and a few others that asked for it. The current SQ without a dual-Action agitator does not benefit much from increasing the water level, the turn over is not great with really big loads.
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| Post# 778104 , Reply# 17 8/18/2014 at 23:05 (3,531 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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Hey that's my Whirlpool in the background!! I hope they're not planning on the spray rinse being anything like that washer though. Anything pressed against the basket higher than a couple inches up the wall doesn't even get water. Hopefully they're seeing that and designing a nice wide flume that will cover the entire area of the basket. Still, full fill rinses for me, always and forever with any washer. Even if I have to hook up a water hose and do it myself mid agitation.
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Post# 778143 , Reply# 18 8/19/2014 at 05:27 (3,531 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Since owning a SQ top-loader is my way of having a vintage-style washer, I'm glad I purchased one recently. Once the spin-drain, adjustable maximum water level, and especially the traditional agitator are gone, the SQ top-loader will lose some of the qualities of a truly vintage machine.
For all intents and purposes, the current SQ top-loader isn't much different than a machine produced in, say, 1960---except for the dumbed-down warm water temperature, of course. The spin-drain is one of my favorite 'vintage' attributes of a Speed Queen. I grew up with a neutral-draining Kenmore, and was envious of the more-exciting-to-watch spin-drains of Maytag, GE, Frigidaire, Westinghouse, Kelvinator, and SQ lines. | ||
| Post# 778157 , Reply# 19 8/19/2014 at 07:57 (3,531 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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FL dispenser | ||
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Post# 778158 , Reply# 20 8/19/2014 at 08:08 (3,531 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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The Melrose Hardware store that posted the factory tour pics have quite a few other fun pics on their site too, looks like they've been around a long time. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gansky1's LINK | ||
| Post# 778171 , Reply# 22 8/19/2014 at 10:01 (3,531 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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What i want to see them do is try to bring these units to more of canada. But you can clearly see how these are way better built then whirlpool. | ||
| Post# 778197 , Reply# 23 8/19/2014 at 13:27 (3,531 days old) by washman (o) | ||
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Speed Queen's answer on their FB "Yes, there will be some changes coming in 2015 due to government regulations and restrictions. This will affect both the topload washer and the frontload washer. No changes will take place for the remainder of this year." | ||
| Post# 778207 , Reply# 24 8/19/2014 at 14:58 (3,530 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Informative... | ||
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Post# 778245 , Reply# 25 8/19/2014 at 19:00 (3,530 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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most users under-load anyway.  My complaint about typical ignorant laundry machine users. My mom was very typical of this. Wasted so much water. So contradictory to her edict of wash full loads only. I could have done it her way. Underload and keep full water level thinking she had it full enough. It all came to a head in the early 1990s when we visited my sister and bil in suburban San Francisco. They had a large capacity basic Maytag. Did the typical thing of start the washer to filling, always at highest water level. Then put some stuff in it and not even concerned if/or how much underloaded it was. And California was going through quite a severe drought. My sister and bil were conserving water as much as possible. My sister and my dad told her if laundry was to be done, to let me do it since I knew how to load and use the proper water level. Hence automatic water sensing/selecting is a good idea because so many who underload. | ||
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Post# 778247 , Reply# 26 8/19/2014 at 19:01 (3,530 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 778281 , Reply# 27 8/20/2014 at 00:15 (3,530 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Awesome Pictures! Thanks for posting the link! This looks like a fun place to work and hang out! | ||
| Post# 778311 , Reply# 28 8/20/2014 at 07:48 (3,530 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Check Out...
The front controlled front-loader in this pic with the slanted panel...
Malcolm
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Post# 778345 , Reply# 29 8/20/2014 at 13:49 (3,530 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Though the FL dosen't look to good in my opinion, it is now pretty clear: These washers weren't just prototypes. You can see a whole row of these in the background too... | ||
| Post# 778660 , Reply# 30 8/22/2014 at 10:11 (3,528 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut) | ||
Underloading
Underloading is a completely foreign concept to me. Even before water shortages became a problem in my hometown, my parents were VERY frugal with water, and I was well-trained to match the load to the water level. It was only well into adulthood that I realized other people had a different way of doing things, and even then it always struck me as quite illogical. I could not conceive of filling an empty drum and dissolving the detergent before putting in the load. Having been trained on GE Filter-Flo TL's probably helped in that regard: 1) put in laundry, 2) set water level based on fullness of the machine, 3) put filter pan in place and measure detergent into the filter pan (Wisk into the solid recess around the center, or powder on the perforated part), 4) put softener dispenser in place and measure softener and dilute with water, 5) start machine. (In my case, step six was usually to jam an old toothbrush into the safety switch hole to watch the action.) The water circulation spout did a perfect job of dissolving and dispensing the detergent.
Probably owing something to my parents' natural frugality, we MEASURED the detergent and softener according to the package directions--not one speck/drop more! My mom pretty much used Tide and Downey, but always kept a bottle of Wisk in the red bottle with the yellow cap and squared top (it was pretty much the only liquid before P&G introduced Era) for certain uses. Good grief, the details that are burned into my brain! Yet I still can't keep track of my car keys. | ||
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Post# 778918 , Reply# 31 8/23/2014 at 16:53 (3,526 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Brian, how you describe doing laundry and the steps is exactly how I taught myself from the time we got the 1964 Norge15 with variable water level. And that's how I did laundry with every top loader I ever used. Whether at my parents, my own house, or my parent's friends house. And machines that didn't offer variable water levels, just buttons or notches on dials, frustrated me to no end. I rejoiced when Maytag FIANALLY fame out with models offering variable water level. Of course all that went out the window when I got my first front loader in 2006. Bob | ||
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