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Post# 117180   3/23/2006 at 12:27 (6,606 days old) by bryan71 ()        

Looking on the Haier website I noticed they offer a 22 pound top loading washer and matching dryer. Anyone ever see these and or used them? Good machines? Rebadged? I know Lowes sells Haier and could probably order them through them.




Post# 117361 , Reply# 1   3/24/2006 at 06:42 (6,605 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Haier is it pronounced *higher* ?

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Methinks a rebadge. Can't see it all that clearly.

GE or MT?

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Post# 117362 , Reply# 2   3/24/2006 at 06:43 (6,605 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Post# 117363 , Reply# 3   3/24/2006 at 06:46 (6,605 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I was in bLowes yesterday. Nice selection of washers!
The samsung are realtively new to us here.

The T/L-ers are really getting inexpensive!


Post# 117367 , Reply# 4   3/24/2006 at 07:18 (6,605 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        
Elecution Lessons

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Haier i think is pronounced HI-AIR, thats how i've been pronouncing it.
On another note, Miele is pronounced MEAL-E, not ME-L-E as i prnounced it bfore i got kicked into shape by Lavamat Jon lol


Post# 117381 , Reply# 5   3/24/2006 at 08:17 (6,605 days old) by designgeek ()        


I think it's pronounced Higher, because once I saw them use a slogan "Haier and Higher" on a web page. Clever of them, plus or minus the obvious potential for marijuana jokes.

They also make a line of portable TLs, from 3.3 lbs. capacity (that's a very compact unit, holds about one pair of jeans plus a shirt) up to 13.2 lbs. These are basically your standard Asian washers with pulsator disc at the bottom of the tub. Some of the middle of the range of these (6 - 8 lb.) have what appear to be mechanical sequence timers (so you can modify the cycle without having to learn to program a computer). (Danby makes an equivalent compact auto TL with mechanical controls, and with an American-style agitator.)

A couple of years ago there were some complaints going around on THS about Haier portable TL washers being too splashy ("washes your floor while you do the laundry":-) and having a couple of other QC problems, but since that time they've probably improved.

I would guess that the 22# rating on the TL you found, realistically means 16 - 18#, which is still pretty good. Generally for these machines, particularly the compact units, assume 60% to 80% of rated capacity and they'll work fine.


Post# 117419 , Reply# 6   3/24/2006 at 10:49 (6,605 days old) by lightedcontrols ()        
hmmmmmmmm

......wonder why the controls look 'Maytag'....ish?

Post# 117421 , Reply# 7   3/24/2006 at 11:17 (6,605 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Miele

Actually it's meal-uh, to be precise matt :-P.

Post# 117423 , Reply# 8   3/24/2006 at 11:26 (6,605 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Well, to be precise.. it's Mea-luh Jon :-P

Post# 117427 , Reply# 9   3/24/2006 at 11:42 (6,605 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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En francais c'est *Mi-elle*, n'est ce pas?

Post# 117429 , Reply# 10   3/24/2006 at 11:55 (6,605 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Whether it's a:

Washing Machine
Washer
Laveuse
Lavadora
Lava Ropa
Lavatrice
Wasmachine
Waschmachine
TTluvtnrio Pouxwn (Gr.)

we love them!


Post# 117430 , Reply# 11   3/24/2006 at 12:01 (6,605 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

or, as I called them when I was a kid, a shing-shing :-)

Post# 117434 , Reply# 12   3/24/2006 at 12:12 (6,605 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Several years ago, when you looked in one of the Haier agitator washers, it looked exactly like a Whirlpool without the newer agitator.

I have one of the 4 or 5 lb. machines that I thought my mom would use in her apartment, but she did not, although I used it a few times there for her. Anyway, I have it at home in the first floor bathroom which means that every room on the first floor has at least one apliance in it; so I have arrived at a new level of depravity, big deal. I hook it up to the bathroom sink faucet and am quite impressed at its washing, spinning and rinsing and spinning between wash and rinse. Instead of the long periods of swirling and tangling like the GE portables, this gives short bursts of impeller movement that are so effective that when it starts in the reverse direction, items on top in the center are immediately pulled under. John and I were talking about it and decided that if you were stuck with only a GE combo, having something like this or a twin tub or one of those suicidal spinners to give you good water extraction would make laundry a pretty manageable, albeit manual, situation.

I remember from THS that the Haier front load washers had an unfortunate way of dying after a short period of use as did some of the countertop dishwashers.


Post# 117436 , Reply# 13   3/24/2006 at 12:31 (6,605 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I saw the 22LBS TL at ABC Warehouse one time and it has a DA agitator, looks the exact same as a DD Whirlpool, but in a gray color. The drum is chrome and the suspension feels similar to that of a F&P.

Post# 117441 , Reply# 14   3/24/2006 at 12:51 (6,605 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hey Junior!
Where have you been hiding?


Post# 117527 , Reply# 15   3/24/2006 at 19:32 (6,604 days old) by kirk280980 ()        
Melee, Mee-lay, Mi-elle

Have heard all these pronunciations and then some, but the best comment I've heard so far was from a Miele sales rep; if you're unsure how to say it, just think of Aussie girls and it all becomes clear... Miele rhymes with Sheila.

Had to laugh when he told me that one, but sure enough, it's about right!

Kirk


Post# 117580 , Reply# 16   3/25/2006 at 07:55 (6,604 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Sheila a Miele?
Not to everyone.


Post# 117747 , Reply# 17   3/26/2006 at 10:21 (6,603 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Wow, I have been pronouncing Miele all wrong, lol, I always pronounced it mee-lay. But, if we are talking brand pronunciations, how about Huebsch? When I was younger I always pronounced it Huus-beck. THAT was obviously wrong, lol!

Post# 117761 , Reply# 18   3/26/2006 at 12:03 (6,603 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

I've read somewhere that it's pronounced Hibsch... never really heard it out loud though so I'm not too sure!

jon


Post# 117777 , Reply# 19   3/26/2006 at 13:04 (6,603 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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OMG-

HUGH. "b" (as in bear) SHHHHHHHH
Guess that is wrong too. LOL


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Post# 117842 , Reply# 20   3/26/2006 at 17:18 (6,602 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
It was Mee-Lay

Up until recently whenever I heard the word Miele it was pronounced Mee-Lay.

It seems to have been in the last couple of years that the way I'm hearing it pronounced has changed, and now all you hear is Mea-luh.



Post# 117844 , Reply# 21   3/26/2006 at 17:21 (6,602 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
That could be the aussie way of speaking though.

I like the way to remember pronounciation.

Miele is Sheila. :)

As an FYI a Sheila is actually a female Kangaroo :)

In slang terms its also a term to describe a woman. If it was used, it tends to be in a positive sense. IE Tracey is a top sheila :)


Post# 117846 , Reply# 22   3/26/2006 at 17:49 (6,602 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Talking of Sheila's...

This company has very VERY annoying adverts on TV at the moment (that actually feature Joe Scully in some of them, if any Neighbours fans remember him!)

Jon


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Post# 117989 , Reply# 23   3/27/2006 at 08:41 (6,602 days old) by designgeek ()        


Tom, interesting that your unit uses a short intermittent impeller cycle. Danby does likewise, and if I recall correctly, Whirlpool and a couple of other compacts do also; all of these use American-style agitators on an intermittent cycle. This can be very mechanically simple: just a motor that can be reversed, and a pulley to the impeller or agitator.

The difference between "normal" and "gentle" is the number of revolutions before it pauses; on the Danby TT it's 1 left and 3/4 right for gentle, and 2 left and 1 right for normal. This doesn't seem like much of a difference but it really is; the "normal" cycle is really vigorous, with the same "pull the clothes under" action you saw on the Haier. This kind of action also saves electricity because the motor is only "on" for half the time (i.e. off during the pauses) and the system takes advantage of the motion of the water during the pauses.

Have you bothered to check the difference in rotation periods (how many revolutions each way) between the normal and gentle cycles on the Haier? And how does it do with blue jeans (which are a difficult load for compacts since the stiff fabric wants more space to move around in)?


Post# 118176 , Reply# 24   3/28/2006 at 03:40 (6,601 days old) by pulsatron ()        
Haier is higher

''Higher'' is the correct way to say Haier as I have just been commuicating with their Sydney office, funny I always thought Miele was pronounced ''Me-Lay''hhhmmmm that could be an interesting pick-up line as in ''me needs lay''sorry about that L.O.L. L.O.L. L.O.L.!!!!!

Post# 118242 , Reply# 25   3/28/2006 at 07:39 (6,601 days old) by designgeek ()        


And if you said, "I just got Haier," your friends might ask for a few puffs.

And if you were gay and told your boyfriend "I like Kenmore," he might think you wanted to break up with him and go out with another guy.

That's about all for the PG-rated ones:-)


Post# 118255 , Reply# 26   3/28/2006 at 08:47 (6,601 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Designgeek: this small machine with only the impeller at the bottom of the tub does not have any sort of slower speed for delicates. I guess you would just set it for a shorter wash period, or interrupt the wash for a soak period to wash delicates. There is only one spin speed also. I don't believe this would wash more than one pair of jeans and it would no doubt have problems balancing one pair to spin.

Post# 118472 , Reply# 27   3/29/2006 at 05:16 (6,600 days old) by pulsatron ()        
washing delicates

Tom,
You are correct about only one spin speed on some compacts,my T.T. only spins at one speed and the only difference in the wash actions on ''Standard and ''Intensive'' are a 4 second pause on standard and no pause on intensive wash.
In regards to my delicates i.e. woollen pullovers and the like,I do all my normal loads first and when they are done,and the washtub is ready to be drained out, I put the plug in the laundry sink and simply put the drain hose in the sink and pump some of the last wash water in the sink and just handwash really delicates, I wring them out by hand put them in the spinner saturate with clean water for a minute or so and then just spin for 30-60 seconds only and lay them flat.
This method works okay on T.T.'s but I am not sure if you can do it on an automatic washer.
Cheers.
Steve.
P.S.,
Designgeek,
Have you heard the one about the 2 cannibals named Kelvin and Mary?, well mary went missing for a long time and the police came to the conclusion that Kelvinator.
Oh God I need help ,Nurse pleae bring me a blanket and a cup of tea.


Post# 118474 , Reply# 28   3/29/2006 at 05:18 (6,600 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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A mssing Mary. *Sigh* Alert the media!

Post# 118556 , Reply# 29   3/29/2006 at 14:08 (6,600 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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I am going to try to upload my Haier videos to putfile

Who votes for this


Post# 118741 , Reply# 30   3/30/2006 at 02:18 (6,599 days old) by pulsatron ()        
1vote for me

You have my vote bpetersxx, I suspect you will win this vote in a landslide.
Cheers.
Steve.


Post# 118886 , Reply# 31   3/30/2006 at 15:49 (6,598 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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i've noticed alot of similarities of other brands in Haier appliances. CAUTION, they're Chinese. And virtually all Chinese industries have been accused of basically copying other companies' things.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if they just lifted parts and features from other American brands and put them in their own machines.


Post# 118898 , Reply# 32   3/30/2006 at 16:43 (6,598 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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They are made by Frigidaire for Haier. The drum design of the dryer dates back to the GM days.
Here's a link to the dryer pics with a newer design control panel.
-Alex


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Post# 118911 , Reply# 33   3/30/2006 at 17:59 (6,598 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
chinks and thiefs

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My haier 22C is so much like a frigidaire unimatic that it scares me. Extrtemely powerful agitation; small tub that holds a ton; no pauses--rushes through the cycles; two rinses, exactly like my Mom's first UNIMATIC; great water efficiency; really quiet; and spins--forgive me--like a son of a bitch. It IS a unimatic, right down to the pulsator (not quite, but it works similarly and they call it a pulsator.

AND IT'S IN MY KITCHEN, JUST LIKE MY ANCESTORS, AND I USE IT ALMOST EVERY DAY


Post# 118953 , Reply# 34   3/30/2006 at 21:39 (6,598 days old) by cvillewasherbo ()        

pictures please!!!

Post# 119094 , Reply# 35   3/31/2006 at 15:56 (6,597 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
miele pronounciation

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Ok, over here (in Munich) we pronounce it like the two words:
ME and LAY
with the "Lay" very soft, a bit like the the Canadian "F***kin' Eh" but absolutely NOT "LUH".
And, of course, allruntogether: MELAY
Sort of like Porsche.
It does come from the French and they are real honeys; when the wheels on the lower rack of my 17 year old dishwasher broke, Miele sent me replacements with an apology and request for the old ones - so they could prevent such early part failure in future models. Like to see Bosch do that, if you think they are arrogant in the States, you ought to see them here in Germany.
(Die Betonung ist nach Vorne gelagert: 'Mi*leh).


Post# 119425 , Reply# 36   4/2/2006 at 06:54 (6,596 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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LOL, now that is real German!

Now try to explain how to pronounce Huebsch (hübsch).

I also like sentences with all the verbs in one row. Like:"Wie hast du ihn das machen lassen können?"


Post# 119426 , Reply# 37   4/2/2006 at 06:54 (6,596 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I put "Die Betonung ist nach Vorne gelagert" in the subject Drift, but it disappeared.

Post# 119496 , Reply# 38   4/2/2006 at 18:39 (6,595 days old) by awooff (Peoria, Illinois)        

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My 18 in. haier dw just caught on fire the other day! I posted on epinions.com

Post# 120651 , Reply# 39   4/7/2006 at 17:53 (6,590 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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Post# 122157 , Reply# 40   4/14/2006 at 06:23 (6,584 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
pretty

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I won't even TRY to explain how to pronounce 'hübsch'. The biggest challange folks from the 'States (like me about a million years ago) have in learning German (or other European languages) is that all the phonetics are based on an idealised "Oxford English" which doesn't exist. Example: This stupid "luh" nonsense for the final "e" in many German words. It is not anything close to "luh". It is a soft and tender (ok, nothing in German is that soft) sound sort of like the é in café. But not exactly. I could not reconcile the German ö with the written explanation that it is like "a" in English until a German born English teacher told me that to my "American" ears it would sound more like an "r". Which it does. The English I have met in Germany have the same problems with the descriptions I have...
And so on.
Never mind the purists, folks. Pronounce 'em as you like. After all, if you are taking the trouble to try to speak somebody else's language they should be thankful for your effort! Have never yet met a German who got theata and delta right...
Dutch, of course, is a very even handed language - having all the horrids of English, Danish and German rolled into one, each phoneme is just as hard as the other :-)))


Post# 122160 , Reply# 41   4/14/2006 at 06:33 (6,584 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Many thanks for the vidoes / links!

Post# 122170 , Reply# 42   4/14/2006 at 08:06 (6,584 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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Want to update the thread

Pete Peterson is uploading Haier videos tp putfile


1 up on putfile 85 more to go


Link above works I think if not the owner will fix it I hope



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