POD 9-22-14 KM 11651

Tom -

Yes, 24-inch suds-saver machines were available. The stock number for the machine in the POD would be 51651 instead of 11651, and a full model number would be something like 110.85165100. It looks like 24-inch suds models were available in the 1980s, but not in the second half of the 1970s as I can find no 1970s suds models after 1974 until 1981. It may be that Sears started offering suds versions of the 24-inch models after they discontinued all the 29-inch standard tub belt-drives during 1981.

As to the agitator, the gold straight vane that is featured on the picture of the day machine was the most common agitator in 24-inch machines 1968 and later (for many years the only agitator offered in a Kenmore). By 1980 there were a few 24s with the standard capacity DA, but they were and are rare.

The gold 1968 straight vane is very well suited to the 24-inch machines, being slightly smaller in diameter than the Super Roto-Swirl. When you said "older style 3-vane agitator" do you mean the bakelite version? If so, the gold polypropylene agitator replaced the bakelite agitator in 1968. I think the newer agitator is a bit less splashy than the bakelite version, as its fins are not as tall.

I have used several 24-inch machines the past two years, built in 1968 and 1982. I find them to be quite competent machines, which hold a larger load than one would expect. The machine in the POD had some cousins, including models with SC filters and DA agitators. It seems that most 24-inch models from this era had the plastic control panels, but I'd love to find one of these more MOL models, especially with a manual filter.

Gordon


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Post# 785088 9/22/2014 at 10:21 (3,496 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes Is this a 24" machine? The photo makes it look narrow; I was wondering if it really was. Often the narrow tub had the older-style three vane agitator.

Post# 785101 , Reply# 1 9/22/2014 at 11:54 (3,496 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)
Checkrate/Likes *24" BD KM Washer* Yes this is diffidently a 24", 16 gallon, 8 pound capacity washer, Sears often featured smaller machines in ads as a clever bait&switch tactic knowing when most people came and looked at the sale priced machine they would buy the bigger machine.

Post# 785110 , Reply# 2 9/22/2014 at 13:07 (3,496 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes Thank you! Could 24" machines ever have a sudsaver or wasn't there enough room in the cabinet for the hoses and suds valve?

Post# 785201 , Reply# 3 9/22/2014 at 20:31 (3,496 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)
Checkrate/Likes Tom - Yes, 24-inch suds-saver machines were available. The stock number for the machine in the POD would be 51651 instead of 11651, and a full model number would be something like 110.85165100. It looks like 24-inch suds models were available in the 1980s, but not in the second half of the 1970s as I can find no 1970s suds models after 1974 until 1981. It may be that Sears started offering suds versions of the 24-inch models after they discontinued all the 29-inch standard tub belt-drives during 1981. As to the agitator, the gold straight vane that is featured on the picture of the day machine was the most common agitator in 24-inch machines 1968 and later (for many years the only agitator offered in a Kenmore). By 1980 there were a few 24s with the standard capacity DA, but they were and are rare. The gold 1968 straight vane is very well suited to the 24-inch machines, being slightly smaller in diameter than the Super Roto-Swirl. When you said "older style 3-vane agitator" do you mean the bakelite version? If so, the gold polypropylene agitator replaced the bakelite agitator in 1968. I think the newer agitator is a bit less splashy than the bakelite version, as its fins are not as tall. I have used several 24-inch machines the past two years, built in 1968 and 1982. I find them to be quite competent machines, which hold a larger load than one would expect. The machine in the POD had some cousins, including models with SC filters and DA agitators. It seems that most 24-inch models from this era had the plastic control panels, but I'd love to find one of these more MOL models, especially with a manual filter. Gordon

Post# 785319 , Reply# 4 9/23/2014 at 18:25 (3,495 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes Gordon, Thanks. Yes, I meant the Bakelite version.

Post# 785508 , Reply# 5 9/24/2014 at 16:41 (3,494 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes I remember the laundry tub-mounted sudsaver for the DD machines.