Thread Number: 56187
Help, please, with a KitchenAid dishwasher |
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Post# 785376 , Reply# 1   9/24/2014 at 05:08 (3,495 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 785596 , Reply# 3   9/25/2014 at 04:30 (3,494 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Here are pics of my Hobart AM 14 Pump Guard (Pic 1) and Filter (Pic 2)
This what accumulates by the end of the day. And mind you they are cleaned after the Lunch dishes are done. |
Post# 785615 , Reply# 4   9/25/2014 at 07:49 (3,494 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Christine, I got your Email, To disassemble this pump you have to hold the plastic impeller and unscrew the 1/4" screw in the center. Sometimes the impeller will break, sometimes the SS screw is rusted and stuck in the carbon steel motor shaft, and it breaks off, at which time it is best to replace the motor.
It sounds like [ from your Email ] that something got into the grinder area and sometimes this will damage the grinder spring and the drain impeller. WP sells a kit to rebuilt these pumps if you can get it apart without breaking off the impeller mounting screw in the motor shaft. The white stuff that was coming out of the edge of the wash arm support means that the seam between the two plastic parts is starting to come apart and fail. This pump assembly often had this problem, sometimes you can glue it back together with some good epoxy. The good news is these pump assemblies are still plentiful if you can not save this one, let me know if you want a good used. John L. |
Post# 785694 , Reply# 6   9/25/2014 at 20:04 (3,493 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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That type of buildup in a commercial or home dishwasher is not uncommon nor is it harmful. I've seen it in both applications and it NEVER comes out on the dishes.
The dishwasher Eddie has is a Hobart AM-14. IMO as a chef of 20 years the best door type machine EVER! Only the recirculated wash water is cycled throuh these filters when returning to the wash tank. That water is maintained @ a minimum of 150f (66c)and is changed after each meal service or every 2 hours of continued use. The 180f (82C) rinse comes in through separate arms and is fresh water which acts to rinse, sanitize and be makeup water for the machine. When dining out: if the chef has a good dishmachine in his kitchen and makes sure it is used properly there should be no Yuck Factor. WK78 |
Post# 785715 , Reply# 7   9/25/2014 at 21:58 (3,493 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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I had that same issue with my second PowerClean that I bought for the updated parts for my 2001. This one was an '06, and took an act of God to unscrew. I'm shocked that compared to this one my '01 was in immaculate condition and was a breeze to disassemble.
Something that may help is to get an old screwdriver and hammer, and gently tap the screw in the center a few times. You're not trying to hammer through it of course, but just send a few light shock waves through the screw and shaft to hopefully loosen its hold. I can't guarantee it will work, but it ended up being the solution to getting the impeller off the Whirlpool. It's actually quite interesting how similar the older KitchenAids and the WP PowerClean are on the inside; that impeller looks downright identical. |
Post# 785752 , Reply# 9   9/26/2014 at 03:52 (3,493 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Thank You Nick.
BTW... Every night, our machine's interior is broken down and cleaned. By that I mean All the screens, end pieces and drain pipe is taken out and cleaned. Then the person cleaning the machine will take 3-4 gallons of hot water and flush out the sediment of the bottom of the tank. The doors including the inspection door is left open to dry out every night. Upon my arrival in the morning, I have a flash light hanging by the clean dish table. I inspect the bottom of the tank for debris and check the Wash Arms for blockage. Sometimes I'll find a stray sip stick or a shrimp tail. The Wash arms are removed once a week and are inspected and flushed for hidden debris. Also, I rotate the arms to make sure there is nothing binding them. As a matter of fact, yesterday upon my inspection I found the lower wash arm's bearing assembly to be in disrepair, so it was replaced by the Chemical Tech. Rarely you find a machine that is highly maintained like Nick or myself take care of in the restaurant business. Sorry, didn't mean to hi jack this thread, but commercial machines need this kind of maintenance on a daily basis. |
Post# 785854 , Reply# 11   9/26/2014 at 21:45 (3,492 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Eddie you do the same thing I do in the morning. I check the inside of the Hobart C-44LE for cleanliness and make sure nothing is caught in the conveyor or damaged.(Inmates are NOT easy on the machine) I then put in the overflow pipe, screens and wash arms. I then close the doors, check the Ecolab dispensers for Solid Power and Rinse Dry and turn the machine on to fill.
The dishwasher is fully broken down and cleaned 3x per day, after each meal. The dishwasher is drained, all screens and wash arms and the overflow pipe removed and cleaned and the inside of the machine washed with a hot water spray. It is then re-assembled and filled for the next service. The outside of the machine is cleaned with SS polish after each cleaning/water change. I run Lime-A-Way through it monthly even though we run it on soft water. I find that this cleans out more than scale. I know my method works as both the MN health inspector and the Ecolab guy comment on how clean our DW is. @CTV I also apologise for hijacking this thread. WK78 |