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Thread Number: 56979
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
You guys have had me searching for this for a while now and..... |
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| Post# 792748 , Reply# 3 11/8/2014 at 16:24 (3,449 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
GOOD LUCK TwinTubber!!!
i don't know anything about dishwashers myself, but like you said, it does look to be in very nice condition from the outside. i'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you that the inside & workings are in just as nice condition as the outside!!!
keep us posted whether you end up getting it or not!!! :o) | ||
| Post# 792769 , Reply# 4 11/8/2014 at 17:37 (3,449 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto) | ||
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Thanks hippiedoll I'll keep you all posted. And congrats on your new score yourself. Nice set of Maytags you acquired for yourself. Hope you are enjoying them. | ||
| Post# 792787 , Reply# 5 11/8/2014 at 19:43 (3,449 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
KDS-20
A world class dishwasher.
Only to be second to the Inergalactical KDS-18. This machine can scrub the chrome off a Trailer Hitch Looks to be beautiful and in great condition. The porcelain looks super. Always a good cleaner and some mechanical parts can be used between the 18-20 series. KDC, KDI, KDP, and KDS. Anything less than $20.00 is a insult to the machine. If only one of us were sooooo rich, we could open a Manufacturing Plant that could duplicate these quality machines. That could Whack out a cycle with the BobLoad of a life time in 40 minutes ??? I think I would spontaneously combust. Wouldn't that be sumtin' ? Imagine paying a Premium Price for a machine that you knew was going to last 30+ and having parts that were available. Just think about the machine that could be built better like a more durable material than Bake o Lite. Imagine a Turbo Charged KDS-18 with all SS components in the sump, SS Chamber, Triple Sound Insulation, Higher GPM pump, Reinvented Triple Spray Arm HydroSweep on 3 levels, Double the Heated Dry System with a on board Instant Water heater ? But You would have to keep that Loud, Crisp "Snap" of the Drain Solenoid just to make sure you knew it was on. Whoooops. Do ya think I'm a tad bit passionate about Older KA's ??? Sorry to get a little off topic. I hope you land that machine. Noisy, but Delicious. | ||
| Post# 792797 , Reply# 7 11/8/2014 at 20:18 (3,449 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto) | ||
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As for the "ultimate" dishwasher..... could we all ever agree on the perfect design? ;) | ||
| Post# 792803 , Reply# 8 11/8/2014 at 20:47 (3,449 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
Looks like a beaut!
Hey Scott ... I, too, can attest to the quality of those old Kitchenaid dishwashers! About 10 years ago, I got a BOTL model with a black glass front - very spiffy - for $25 off Craigslist. As Eddie (toploader55) attests - they COULD wash the chrome off a trailer hitch (gotta remember that one!)
Made by Hobart in the "old" days, the quality was amazing. Another testimonial to American engineering and quality of decades past, similar to Maytag! When I installed mine, I discovered a leak. After disassembling the entire machine, I discovered the culprit was one cracked ceramic disk - can't remember the name for it, but the spinning mechanism rested on it (thus the necessity for it to be made of ceramic). The appliance store sold a repair kit, in which that one little part was included - couldn't buy the one part alone. After re-installation - that machine worked like it was new! Eddie is right, however, they are noisy. But, oh how they clean! | ||
| Post# 792810 , Reply# 9 11/8/2014 at 21:52 (3,449 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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Post# 792813 , Reply# 10 11/8/2014 at 22:09 (3,449 days old) by whirlykenmore78  (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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All that has been said is true!
That looks to be a great DW. Many of the pump and motor components are also interchangeable with some Hobart WM series commercial dishmachines.
One word of caution though, this like any commercial dishmachine pump is NOT meant to ingest large amounts of garbage. While there is certainly no need to rinse dishes they should be scraped. Otherwise pack it as full as you want and let it go. You will find spotless dishes when it is done. You have found one of the BEST DW's ever made! WK78 | ||
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Post# 792861 , Reply# 11 11/9/2014 at 06:58 (3,449 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Great Dishwasher. My KDS20 is my primary machine. It cleans everything. The other night I baked some chicken on a rack and purposely didn't spray the pan. I drained off the grease and ran it through the Soak and Scrub cycle rack and all. Came out perfect.
These machines really are amazing. I hope you get it. I should have taken pictures! | ||
| Post# 792864 , Reply# 12 11/9/2014 at 07:03 (3,449 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Looks to be in very nice shape! Is this a KDS-19 or KDS-20? All I can make out from the pictures is "Energy Saver V".
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Post# 792966 , Reply# 13 11/9/2014 at 18:21 (3,448 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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@ A440 | ||
| Post# 793052 , Reply# 15 11/10/2014 at 08:27 (3,447 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
I understand you! | ||
| Post# 793064 , Reply# 16 11/10/2014 at 09:45 (3,447 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
we ALL understand you here! | ||
| Post# 794810 , Reply# 19 11/18/2014 at 22:22 (3,439 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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I'm surprised nobody has answered your question.
Best place to get an owner's manual as well as a service manual is the Automatic Ephemera. Link is below. If the 20 manuals are the same as the 18, there will be a timer chart telling you exactly what is supposed to happen at each increment of every cycle. CLICK HERE TO GO TO barcoboy's LINK | ||
| Post# 794813 , Reply# 20 11/18/2014 at 22:29 (3,439 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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Regarding the date of manufacture... someone else should be able to narrow it down, but according to the chart in this thread, the KD-20 series were manufactured between 05/1981 and 04/1984.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO barcoboy's LINK | ||
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Post# 796306 , Reply# 24 11/28/2014 at 06:23 (3,430 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Nothing like that is worth a collapse of faith. We'd have nothing in this world of any value w/o faith, no matter what God (or not) you trust and/or may believe in.
C'mon, there are other deals - it's just life. Some of the most successful people encounter tragedies and go on. You have to remind yourself, on average, many attempts can and will end up in disappointment as success is never a straight shot. It may look it on the outside... So anyways - don't let one or a few setbacks bring down the house. You still have plenty of other opportunities, it's the law of averages. Keep your perspectives reasonable...and while your next shot might not be exactly like you want, there's something else around the corner. If you don't have one foot in the grave, man, you're closer to finding a KA that suits your dreams/needs. Sorry for the preaching, I'm not - it's hard for me not to say something, I've had plenty of disappointments in life, but hang in there - life doesn't disappoint. Good luck and kick out the blues! Phil | ||
| Post# 796332 , Reply# 25 11/28/2014 at 10:56 (3,429 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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THESE ARE NOT ALL THAT UNCOMMON! | ||
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Post# 796429 , Reply# 28 11/29/2014 at 00:58 (3,429 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Don't give up--there are others out there to be found!!!Just may take time.Go to the swap shops,thrift shops,Habitat For Humanity stores in your area-another KA washer WILL turn up! | ||
| Post# 796432 , Reply# 29 11/29/2014 at 01:45 (3,429 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Just what did the seller do that was so bad? just wondering. | ||
| Post# 796534 , Reply# 30 11/29/2014 at 21:54 (3,428 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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Ack... that totally sucks. Sorry that this happened to you. I know what you mean though about Kijiji-it's always a gamble. Sometimes, people can be so nice, and other times they can be real jerks. I had a really good experience this past week. I am a collector of Commodore computers, and have been looking for a certain model monitor for a while. Well one finally came up on Kijiji in Drummondville, which is about 45 minutes away from me. I jumped on it right away, and made arrangements to drive up and get it. The seller was super nice... first of all, the price was only $10, and normally these monitors go for much more, and then when I got there, he had another Commodore monitor that he offered me for $5, so I gave him a $20 and told him to keep the change. He told me that three other people had called about it, but because I had contacted him first, he agreed to hold it for me. But I know it is not always like this, and know other people who have had really bad experiences on Kijiji, and even Ebay. I really hope though that this one incident doesn't ruin your holidays, and that something really good happens to you to tip the scales back on the plus side. :-)
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| Post# 796544 , Reply# 31 11/29/2014 at 23:13 (3,428 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada) | ||
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One thing is, some people who are willing to give stuff away or sell it for cheap aren't willing to go into a lot of trouble to do so. I'm among those who don't like selling or giving away things to people I don't know! When I do, I usually put a price on the ads so things will go very fast! Last year, I sold a pickup truck in less than 24 hours after I placed the ad and this year, I did the same with a snowblower! I removed the ads quickly to stop getting emails and phone calls!
When I buy stuff for cheap or get stuff that's free, I make sure I can get the item in my truck or in a car that can haul what I'm getting. Unless the condition of the item is terrible, I just take it and I don't bother making any tests. I just grab it and figure that I will see later... I know it's not possible for everyone to do so but that's what I do. If the thing I'm looking for happens to be in really bad condition. I just part it out or scrap it.
On some occasions, I ended offering some money to people who wanted to give stuff. Earlier this year, I called to get a GE P400 percolator that was advertised at $8. When was on my way to pick it up, I got a phone call from the owner as her husband noticed it was missing the filter basket... I told her I'd get it anyway, that I already had one. So she said fine and she also said it was going to be free. When I saw it was in great condition, I didn't hesitate to pay the asking price, she refused the money but I insisted! Last year, I got a KDS-58 dishwasher which had been built-in (so it was missing a few parts) that was advertised for free and I ended giving $20 to it's owner who was very kind and helpful. And I recently offered $80 for an Inglis washer/dryer set that I wanted badly (and that was also advertised for free!) but that was already promised to someone who was going to pick it up for the scrap who had called just before I did. I could have taken a chance and offered less but I decided not to! I ended getting the machines and paying the owner $80 and he seemed very happy about that! If these machines would have been advertised at $100, I would have probably grabbed them anyway!
I tend to be more greedy when I deal with large corporations or with some professionals who exaggerate on the amount they charge for their services... Also, when people advertise something for far more than what it's worth, I sometimes call anyway. If we can agree on a price and I can inspect further to see the condition, it's fine. One time, there was a 1960 French-Door range in bad shape advertised at $300, I went to see it as it was just a few blocks away from a friend's home. When I saw it, it was worse than on the pictures in the ad and I didn't want it. I still bothered to offer $30 to it's owners who where mad when I did so! My friend who came to see it with me was ashamed of my offer and embarrassed with their reaction! He then told me I should just have told the sellers I wasn't interested, but that time, I didn't feel like doing that! I knew they would end throwing it away and probably regret not to have someone to get it out of their basement and paying them to do it! | ||
| Post# 796726 , Reply# 32 11/30/2014 at 20:06 (3,427 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
Scott:
I know this was a blow, but I hope you'll reconsider leaving AW, and I hope you'll find other vintage appliances.
Collecting is a real labor of love, and you can't count on being lucky. It takes time - lots of time. I have some really nice vintage goodies, but it took a while. The range was about two years. The washer and dryer, less time to acquire, but it's being a lengthy restoration process. The dishwasher fell into my hands, but I wanted a different control panel than the one it came with, and that took nearly five years. My latest quest is for a particular model of Amana refrigerator, and if you want to see how long that's been going on, try searching the site on the words "sandy amana." It's a damn saga. I have suffered more disappointments than a streetwalker who accepts I.O.U.'s. It will happen; I know good things come to those who wait. Even if sometimes, they have to wait, and wait, and wait.... | ||
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