Thread Number: 57021
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
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Post# 793107   11/10/2014 at 14:43 (3,448 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Well....
You'll remember how wrong it went the Castor thing.... It started bad since the start... But today...well today, retrurning to normal daily routine and so doing the usual weekly scan of ads after a week spent throughout the Piemonte with my family from Maine... Unbelievably....the dishwasher of my dreams pops up... And, guess what? NEW!! I immediately grabbed the phone and called, a nice old lady answered.. She sounded immediately kind and polite, and available, I asked for the availability of a courrier pick up, she said she had to talk to her son and husband... The son just called me now, and we agreed to a possible pick up with a courrier...he said they could pack it up and grab a pallet somewhere and agreed to ship...though they sounded reluctant to do it at first...and I probably sounded too harsh requesting it due to excitement...but someway he said OK. I am hopeful they don't change their minds....that's why I need all the positive vibes to make this come true...it has the potential to end me with this beauty under my stainless kitchen in an heartbeat, and it will look great also in my future 60s style kitchen... Unlike another washer....a dishwasher, a real one.. was really, really needed and hoped for in this house! Finally! YAY! www.subito.it/elettrodomestici/la... And this one use real water and really moves it! Noisy? Maybe a little bit...but my house always has music playing so that's no problem..and water moving is music to my hears also.... The later model: |
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Post# 793109 , Reply# 1   11/10/2014 at 14:58 (3,448 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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and positive vibes headed your way.
i know how nervous you can get when you are excited over something. and all the doubts start popping into your head!! that is exactly how i was with the 806 & 808 pair that i just got. take a deep breathe and think positive thoughts. if the son agreed to a courier pick up & agreed to ship this, than it sounds like it's all go!!! but i will definitely keep my fingers crossed for you!! buona fortuna il mio amico!!! ;o) |
Post# 793111 , Reply# 2   11/10/2014 at 15:32 (3,448 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 793113 , Reply# 3   11/10/2014 at 15:40 (3,448 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 793114 , Reply# 4   11/10/2014 at 16:20 (3,448 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Post# 793116 , Reply# 5   11/10/2014 at 16:29 (3,448 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Thank you Christina & all.
Yes Christina, when I called, the lady immediately sounded to be nice and available folks, unlike the people of the castor ... And I had a good feeling about since the start, the son already emailed me the bank info for a money transfer and money are already on their way... Maybe it's too early to cry "victory" but the matter is at a good point..... They sounded like simple and kind people, the kind I like...the son said in the email that they're going to build a pallet on their own since his dad is a wood carpenter now retired....and he'll be happy to do that to keep himself busy... Aww So, it should succeed as hoped. Louis, ah yes...I remember you said that before.... Well.... I'll see that once it's here, my neighbors are noisy people and they couldn't and wouldn't be bothered by, they just couldn't hear it over their shouts LOL and they just have to dare come over and say something...I never did that in all these years because of their fights, TV or when the one above me starts singing sicilian songs like a mujahedeen, drunk on the balcony in summer mornings and afternoons....LOL I don't think it may possibly be that noisy also.... I mean...my kitchen doesn't come in contact with any walls toward other apts, like indeed does my bedroom and hall, and the floors unlike the walls are very thick in this condo, so it shouldn't be a problem. Then I am about moving in a 3 months.....so neighbors won't be a problem anyway... I am so happy to have this dishwasher.....finally! Looking forward to junk off the bosch! Dump it's the place it belongs! This post was last edited 11/10/2014 at 16:44 |
Post# 793123 , Reply# 6   11/10/2014 at 17:34 (3,448 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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What you mean for "what vintage?" or was it supposed to have a ! at the end?
Whirlpool branded indesits in Canada? I'd have never guessed.... I knew Ignis had involvement with Whirlpool, and also with the Philips that IIRC was Dutch (we can see that even in South America, more precisely in Venezuela whirlpool made machines were branded Philips over there see ex: listado.mercadolibre.com.ve/lavad... ), over here, Ignis made whirlpool, better say whirlpool bought ignis after a partnership that lasted about a decade and you started having Ignis aka philips made machines branded whirlpool inititally...then evolved on their own under Whirlpool management.... Speaking of Ignis Diomede addressed me to an aquintance of him that had a original Ignis dishwasher to sell, but price was too high and machine too far...I was about getting though.. Original Ignis were good dishwasher also, but I just have this thing for the Indesit and I like them more and I think they're better in many ways.... Many of the older (late 70s and 80s) Ignis were made in Germany and had the typical shapes of the Philips machines.... Like this; To me the acquistion of Ignis from Whirlpool signed the decay of the Ignis quality people knew..... You just cannot compare the original Ignis to the machies made after whirlpool aquistion...not sure what happened, but whirlpool here became great thanks to Ignis and philips...don't know how to consider whirlpool here, if as an evolution of Ignis and philips or else...all I can see is what were Ignis machines before and what they became after... I am not a fan of Whirlpool Europe anyway... they make decent machines for the current average european standards ( standards which have never been mine)... but not anything special... and of course nothing like the US counterparts for sure, night and day difference...... Speaking of washers...for example... The lastets acceptable quality machine that came both as Ignis and as Whirlpools that I have seen, was the toploader with the glass top ( but still ignis/philips in it's nature)....after that...forget about whirlpool and Ignis.... This post was last edited 11/10/2014 at 18:40 |
Post# 793137 , Reply# 7   11/10/2014 at 18:23 (3,448 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Another correlation of the Philps and Ignis can be seen with the brand Phonola.
Phonola was acquired by Philips in 1969... Phonola washing machines were nothing but Ignis... These machines came with 4 names, Phonola, Philips, Ignis and Whirlpool. www.exnovovicenza.com/2014/05/lav... |
Post# 793140 , Reply# 8   11/10/2014 at 18:56 (3,448 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 794121 , Reply# 9   11/15/2014 at 20:08 (3,443 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Seller sent me this today asking if it looked OK... so kind.....
I booked the courrier, Monday should leave and I should receive in 3 days...Wednesday or Thrurday. So excited!!! Bosch is already in the corner waiting to go to the scrapper.
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Post# 794501 , Reply# 10   11/17/2014 at 16:01 (3,441 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 794572 , Reply# 11   11/17/2014 at 21:32 (3,441 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 794942 , Reply# 12   11/19/2014 at 16:18 (3,439 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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And here it is!!!!
Really, I didn't think possible that for me a "washer guy" a dishwasher could mean so much, the exicetement and happines I felt about it and that I'm still feeling it's to high heaven now.... Really, it's so beautiful, and seller was right! New! Still new holy cow! Not a sign of ever being used, just installed... Story is particular, this family had it installed in the apt in their multi family house they were meant to go soon back in the 70s, but plans changed and they ended moving abroad, this dishwasher remained at the house where the granmother still lived, though she never used that kitchen, nor the dishwasher.....it sat 40 years unused, under this kitchen counter....till now that they came back, and decided to renovate/use the room.. I installed it this evening, though I had a little problem...they did cut the fill hose, so I had to replace it with one of the new ones I had, the dishwasher had the inlet inside the cabinet and wasn't meant to use one of those modern ones with the elbow, but a straight one... so I had to detach the one I had still connected to faucet from my previous DW ( hose that's still in good conditions) and use another straight one I luckily had, too bad that while detaching the old one, I probably pinched a little bit the metal hose where the dishwasher attachement is attached, second metal "net" hose which it's connected to the sink faucet, so now it leaks a few drops under the sink.....I think I need to install a tap near the dishwasher since I see I do have a faucet outlet on the wall next to dishwasher spot.. (I wonder why they didn'ìt put it there but connected it to the faucet of the sink), will do that this weekend anyway..... I'm testing the machine now, WOW!!!!!!!! Just as I thought! This one really moves the water AS IT SHOULD!!! I think I did put too much powder for the empty cycle as it started leaking 2 small streams of suds on the front corners, so had to drain it and fill again with a smaller amount. And I thought it was more noisy than what it really is..... So happy!!! I will scan the booklet when I've more time....it's in Italian, english, deutsch and français. Happy!!! Really happy!!! This post was last edited 11/19/2014 at 17:34 |
Post# 794943 , Reply# 13   11/19/2014 at 16:31 (3,439 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )   |   | |
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Post# 795035 , Reply# 14   11/19/2014 at 23:43 (3,439 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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kenmoreguy89!!!
i am like you, more into washers, but this dishwasher here looks GREAT!!! i'm so glad that it finally arrived and that you got it hooked up and got a chance to try it out!!! i guess you have a little work to do over the weekend, huh??? GOOD LUCK!!! & i'll keep my fingers crossed that it's an easy job for you!!! thanks for the pictures. it looks in super condition!!! ;o) |
Post# 795105 , Reply# 15   11/20/2014 at 12:32 (3,438 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Congratulations! That machine is magnificent looking! It's indeed a similar machine as I was talking about, only this one has the stainless steel front panel, we had the white one. I hope you get many years of service from this machine.
In the seventies the Indesit sold for ƒ699.- (Dutch guilders) (€315.-). Other machines were sold at a much higher price. It was a rather popular machine at that time. But it came with a price, it used more water and electricity than other machines. |
Post# 795106 , Reply# 16   11/20/2014 at 12:36 (3,438 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 795122 , Reply# 17   11/20/2014 at 14:37 (3,438 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Maybe it's too soon to speak, but from what I am seeing, the result of what it uses are dishes the cleanest ever...AMAZING!
Loaded today for first actual wash! This one removes burnt ragù (yes I burnt it making the ragù sauce for lasagne) and the lasagnes baking dish, all this on the short light cycle! Not even the normal or the strongest (BIO)... I know and I feel like I shouldn't be surprised but I am! WOW! I could never experience such a thing from whatever machine, even our 80s Rex! That machine could just handle these soils with the strongest cycle.....and anyway not always 100%/totally. I think that what you spend for the alleged "more" it uses it is likely given all in the superb results! I'm in love with it! |
Post# 795128 , Reply# 18   11/20/2014 at 14:48 (3,438 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 795130 , Reply# 19   11/20/2014 at 14:52 (3,438 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I didn't open it during wash, i wasn't there but I went to get rid of the bosch to the dump.....though when i came back it was drying and steaming from the vent, looked it was slightly hotter than 65 inside from the vent, though maybe it's due to the element being turned on during rying cycle as I could smell the typical odor of drying using the element....another thing...it totally dryes everything, at perfection!!!!! No more towel drying!! Yuppee!
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Post# 795133 , Reply# 20   11/20/2014 at 15:08 (3,438 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 795134 , Reply# 21   11/20/2014 at 15:09 (3,438 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Anyway Louis, sure I'll tell you more with the time....
I still have to get customed to the differences of the various cycles and "learn" about..... I also still have to read all the booklet, I just looked for the programs chart, but differences o9f what changes like temps etc are not mentioned, anyway, I'll scan the english one and post it here. And with the time I'll be able to let you know every small detail about it, I just have it since yesterday... |
Post# 795151 , Reply# 22   11/20/2014 at 17:21 (3,438 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)   |   | |
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Like my 30 year old Miele. Cleans exceptionally well just using the Economy 55 wash. Just look at those spray jets!
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Post# 795175 , Reply# 23   11/20/2014 at 21:45 (3,438 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 795190 , Reply# 24   11/20/2014 at 23:33 (3,438 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)   |   | |
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Congratulations on getting your machine! As many have stated it is a very stylish design. The dual wash arm setup reminds me of the WasteKing H-Axis design (but this looks more efficient). Congrats again & enjoy!! |
Post# 795263 , Reply# 25   11/21/2014 at 14:22 (3,437 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 795277 , Reply# 26   11/21/2014 at 16:06 (3,437 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I am almost crying....... :( :( :(
It simply was too beautiful to be true for me.....I couldn't be this lucky...it never goes smooth and well for me.....never!!! Was using it tonight, it was like 15 minutes it started it's cycle, I was getting back to the kitchen when all of a sudden lights went out, I thought of a black out, but lights on the other apts were still on, so I checked the safety circuit breaker and it was off, something wasn't going right.... that gave me the willies as I just had the dishwasher running... Tried to lift the switch up, but it wouldn't stay up... I reached the dishwasher and turn the button off and, and I could smell a burnt ozone smell... here I screamed a huge "FUCK!" After turning it off, switch would stay up... I came back to the machine and checked for leaks or something, nothing...everything was okay....I tried turning it on again and lights went off again, so yes, it was it....then I did turn the knob to a random point and went to the safety switch and lifted it, lights didnt go off and I could hear the machine draining. I waited that drain would finish, it then started filling water for rinse, and once full and motor started going....I could immediately see by the loss of power/light of the light bulbs in the room that something was wrong with it (like if someone just switched on a 6000 watt thing), just after that, I could also hear that the motor was doing a weird sound than before, like a kind of humming in background, the kind of noise motors does when they're on effort or blocked... you know... that electric hum ..don't know if I am clear, I could hear water inside not being sprayed as strong as before also.... and ozone/burnt smell was starting to get out again from the machine, so I turned it off....and here I am, scared as hell of what it could mean...machine is kaput????? I am flattened.... This post was last edited 11/21/2014 at 17:12 |
Post# 795314 , Reply# 27   11/21/2014 at 20:17 (3,437 days old) by kqkenmore (memphis tn)   |   | |
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Post# 795358 , Reply# 28   11/22/2014 at 03:13 (3,437 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 795395 , Reply# 29   11/22/2014 at 09:05 (3,436 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Well, I should have expected it, there's always something that doesn't go initially with the Vintage I buy, well, at least I thoght that this one being never used would just work without probs...I am not into dishwashers so don't know...looks like motor is in dispersion and overheats, but maybe it's a faulty bearing that made it work on effort and did burn something inside like insulations or something and now it disperse, I hope it didn't suffer and for my knowledge about I am not able to tell if it ever did....if so I think I can have the motor checked and eventually re-winded but I think it'll cost much... This post was last edited 11/22/2014 at 09:33 |
Post# 795578 , Reply# 30   11/23/2014 at 07:34 (3,435 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Trying to figure out..... I spot an electric box over the motor which is a bit darkened....look like it overheated, not from the motor as it's just one side of it, and upper.. |
Post# 795826 , Reply# 31   11/24/2014 at 18:31 (3,434 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Removed motor-pump block this evening, bearing was fine and well greased, propeller turns enough freely, can't spot any signs of burned insulations or overheating from outside, no burnt or ozone smell either (it actually still have that nice vtg appliance mechanics smell)....go figure... i am gonna bring it to an electrician- motor rewinding shop tomorrow...I discovered there's one just one block away from my condo...
Hopeful they can tell me something and help out/fix it...not asking lots of $$$... Finger crossed... Please wish me furtherly some good luck! |
Post# 795874 , Reply# 33   11/24/2014 at 23:00 (3,434 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 795959 , Reply# 34   11/25/2014 at 17:43 (3,433 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Thank you Nathan! You're so kind! This post was last edited 11/25/2014 at 19:01 |
Post# 795968 , Reply# 35   11/25/2014 at 18:40 (3,433 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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There is something wrong with Mielerod's Miele dishwasher! Where is the orange button that they put on every single one of their appliances? That little orange dot on the dial doesn't count. Something not right here. |
Post# 795973 , Reply# 36   11/25/2014 at 18:53 (3,433 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)   |   | |
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Hi Rapunzel,
There was an orange ring in the door button, but it's faded after 30 years! Gotta luv those orange buttons lol, just like on my 25 year old dryer.
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Post# 795981 , Reply# 37   11/25/2014 at 19:51 (3,433 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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I've personally witnessed entire Miele appliances fade away around their orange button. The orange button never fades. |
Post# 800920 , Reply# 38   12/26/2014 at 11:05 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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There must be someone out there that is cursing me...
That it's just not right... Have had the motor to rewind finished just few days before Christmas (they said it was burnt out), 70 euros the expense, so finally yesterday I had time to work on the machine.. My sister went here to give me an hand, and after 2 hours, from 9pm to 11, because of various difficulties, that I'd really need pics to explain, the motor pump was up again... Water test went fine, so it was finally time time test the motor.. I fire it up and I start hearing the same weird noise it would do before, few seconds to lay to the back to watch and I started seing smoke coming out...plenty... It was not the same odor I smelled before, but at this time it was like burned wax. motor of course had been wired correctly.....I have no clue..I am so sad.... |
Post# 800934 , Reply# 40   12/26/2014 at 13:02 (3,402 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 800947 , Reply# 41   12/26/2014 at 14:13 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I don't think to see a relay (which I know the shape but not what's for) or such a thing anywhwere in the machine...
I can just see it has a capacitor.. Sorry but for the rest it's greek to me...I just know what the tag says..so that it is a single phase motor...voltage, amperage and rpm.. Please could you explain better? I am not learned about motors.. Thank you! |
Post# 800949 , Reply# 42   12/26/2014 at 14:21 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I post pics of motor contacts maybe it tells something..
F: HOT N:neutral the other is a red wire i don't know..just know it went there as i was told so and it was before also... Both N blue wire and the red wire are connected to COND which is the capacitor... On the pline on the side I connected the black , then blue and red.. The black were 2 wires gathered in one contact... |
Post# 800956 , Reply# 43   12/26/2014 at 14:48 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 800971 , Reply# 46   12/26/2014 at 15:50 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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The white module on the motor is the box where contacts go, see the pic I attached, no other boxes on the motor...
If you look on older pics you can see how it's connected... I don't know about the auxiliary winding it mentions, just that it includes that as full part of the motor block... I wish i could post pics but I lost the bluetooth usb so can't upload pics on the pc (I don't have a smartphone)... The capacitor is a metal one, it's a kind of weird one as each side has a contact divided in 2 pins, on one side I see 2 blue ones and on the other just a red one..and an empty pin. If i am seeing right, looks like a blue one come from up where the timer is then arrives to the pin and then another blue goes out from the second pin of the same contact and go to motor, while the red on the other side go/comes to/from the motor.... Looks like the capacitor itself has nothing written on it but look like to have read that on the schematics....I need to check again.. I know the motor tag (which is the cap of the contact box) had written on it μF=10 |
Post# 800974 , Reply# 47   12/26/2014 at 15:57 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 800975 , Reply# 48   12/26/2014 at 16:03 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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"Still makes me wonder if after all this time the condenser/capacitor dried out or the dielectric separations inside"
All the rest it's greek to me as I ignore all these electric things and I really have no clue of what you're talking.... But the dishwasher sat unused for 50 years in an empty house's kitchen. if there was something to dry out inside it may well be. it worked first time I used it, then as you can read in the middle of wash it did what it did...so you think it may be the capacitor? i would try change that out but don't know what type to look for and how to connect it. Yes machime works withe European voltage and hertz/cycles. |
Post# 800978 , Reply# 50   12/26/2014 at 16:18 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Don't feel sorry, i know you're trying helping me and i am so grateful for that!
I just brought the motor to the shop upon suggestion I had, as I tried getting help from people who has one also, and they told me that it was motor that went kaput and had to be re-winded, they said it could be a stpid thing such a spider net..which it was weird to me as I could see motor very dirty work as well... The capacitor is screwed to the body of the machine...and didn't touch it. Timer has a plastic cover on it, though contacts are out and are as shiney as new....I can't see oxidations... No the motor immediately did the thing and same noise it did before when it started the problem, as soon as it started I could immediately hear that hum sound it did before, it would run and pump inside but it was like it was on effort and kind of vibrate, a vibrating electric sound sort of a hum, it ran for like 4 seconds and smoke started coming out the bottom so immediately stopped it...and here we are again... Do you think I need to have re-winded it again? I see the windings in it kind of darkened up a bit, look to have a dark patina like small drops, I were thinking if when they rewind them they use wax or paraffin to lubricate the copper, that may explain the smoke that smelled like burnt wax and dark patina that looks like melted wax.... |
Post# 800981 , Reply# 52   12/26/2014 at 16:54 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Well, i don't know anyone who can do that, maybe the electrician at our company, but i don't think they have that megger thing, just the ohm...
But I think it's better to have it re-detached and re-winded another time, it may still be okay, but i want it to last as long as possible without repairs needed and this attempt may have wekeaned it to shorten it's future life.... perhpas if it's not completely to re-wind they may recondition what and if has suffered..... It was really a matter of seconds anyway, i guess it didn't run more than 6 seconds before i turned it off, 4 seconds and it started to smoke... plus i ran it about 2 seconds today trying to find the right click to drain it out. yesterday night I was just too sad and mad to lay around it, I developped a terrible headache for the nerve i had, let alone the neck and back for all the troubles putting it back again... |
Post# 800988 , Reply# 54   12/26/2014 at 18:05 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Yes, it has a separate pump, the pump looks working fine, drained it today, actually the pump works better than any dishwasher I have ever seen having this kind of pump as it drains in seconds, very powerful for it's kind, maybe it's also due to a well designed snail not the pump itself as it's the same standard kind....funny that they didn't use reverse motor so the same wash motor to drain like their washing machines, early indesits washing machines drained as they spun using one motor, very rare for a front loader...
Anyway....so you think it may be the capacitor? I will look for one tomorrow hopefully electrician didn't go on Holiday..... Do you think I'll be able to put it back where the old one was...what if it has a different thing to hold it? What you mean higher in voltage? I see many of these have written 450 v...you mean one like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/CONDENSATORE-RIC... This is written being okay for washing machines, motor pumps, compressors, and motors geneally, is listed being 450 v max and i can chose the microfarads... I am afraid on how I'll be able to attach it where the old one was... |
Post# 800990 , Reply# 55   12/26/2014 at 18:17 (3,402 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 801534 , Reply# 57   12/30/2014 at 03:56 (3,399 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I am still looking for the damn capacitor, the only furnished electric material suopplier in town seems to be on Holidays (I try since three days now) and he didn't even bother putting a sheet saying till when in the shop door..... ahhhh living in what's becoming a ghost town!
I went into a small electric shop I magically found opened this morning (it was closed as well yesterday) hoping for some luck, but as I thought they didn't have motor capacitos in regular stock, but the man looked around and gave me one he saved from some jobs they did, he gave me it for free, though it's a 12 microfarads instead of 10 I need...will it change that much? Just to try??? If I have time I'll try going to the nearby town, where there's a very large supplier... otherwise will order one online over ebay or something... but times will lengthen, I can't stand anymore the dishwasher in the middle of the kitchen, I want try see if works ands if it's the capacitor and then will detach motor again and will bring it to re-wind another time, hopefully they do it quickly.. body and finishes are getting scratches and bumps also even though it's over a blanket... I was so happy as it was so new....and am reducing it like an used one puttering and fiddling trying to fix it....my sister while helping me didn't hold it well while I were pushing the motor and she was inside screwing it to place, and machine was pushed toward the back cover that was laid on the wall... and made evident scratches and bumps on the chromed front frame finish....I didn't notice of it immediately..I thought she were holding and would think of it... but evidently she didn't..it's not her fault anyway...It's me..i should have imagined she didn't think of it... but just to screw inside, she was so concentrated on doing that she didnt'n think of anything else..she's not inclined for these jobs..though it was the only person available to help me...my father is always busy at the farm... It shouldn't have gone like this!!! ;( This post was last edited 12/30/2014 at 04:27 |
Post# 801558 , Reply# 58   12/30/2014 at 10:56 (3,398 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Ok...managed to go to the nearby town, got the capacitor, will mount it on later..
Pray for me... Also stopped in a new thrift store just in front of the shop, I was told it being big and well furnished, with honest prices, actually to me it was small and total delusion, stuff priced randomly and not in line with real value... There was a nice Gasfire stove though,price was not so great but was in VGC, sadly not the model I like for my new house otherwise I'd have made a thought about being so near to me.. |
Post# 801561 , Reply# 59   12/30/2014 at 11:22 (3,398 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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IT WORKS! IT WORKS! IT WORKS!
THANK YOU INFINITELY FOR THE TIPS!!!!!!
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Post# 801563 , Reply# 60   12/30/2014 at 11:59 (3,398 days old) by mieletag (Cape Girardeau, Missouri)   |   | |
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That's great! Glad to hear. Now you can have motor re-wound for total peace of mind. |
Post# 801564 , Reply# 61   12/30/2014 at 12:43 (3,398 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Yes...I put in back in place now and currently running a load to check everything goes fine, motor seems to work pretty well, but it's not the same noise I heard when i ran it first time....didn't even screw the back panel completely
I will pull it out soon again, after New year's Eve and will bring motor to re-wind..for peace of mind as you say...yes.. Hopefully my sister is still willing to give me an hand, sure she will...but I'll wrap it out like a baby now to avoid problems of bumps and scratches... I am happy! Thank you again! I also found the pump for the filter-flo today in the mail...so I'll be busy putting it on tomorrow! Just miss the ignitor for the dryer now to arrive, then I'll have all my dear helpers working again! Just in time to take them away again and move to the farm...LOL Well it'll be presumably in March! Hopefully! |
Post# 801666 , Reply# 62   12/31/2014 at 05:34 (3,398 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)   |   | |
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Congratulations. Was hoping that was the part necessary to bring your machine back on line. Now you have a new refurbished new dishwasher. Glad things worked out and you have your kitchen space again. Sounds like you already have a busy new year starting. Jon |
Post# 801680 , Reply# 63   12/31/2014 at 08:27 (3,397 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Yes!!
And over my expectations, today postwoman knocked and even the dryer ignitor was here, tracking said it was still in Milan airport hub... What has been an awful Christmas day, also accompained with an unfortunate lunch with the family, lunch where I also have almost been on the verge of a bad quarrel with my uncle (my father's sister husband), over stupid claims about the US he did... Now I can say that New Year's Eve is going to be a nice day opposed to it.... Hopefully it all it's a sign this 2015 will start on the right foot! This post was last edited 12/31/2014 at 08:44 |
Post# 801709 , Reply# 64   12/31/2014 at 12:59 (3,397 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Well dryer ignitor was here, but stupidly I dropped it taking out of the box...and guess how a ceramic ignitor looks like after has dropped from a 1.90 meters tall person's hand? This post was last edited 12/31/2014 at 13:21 |