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Post# 799982   12/20/2014 at 22:37 (3,385 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Only days ago the Speed Queen website had yet to post information about their new lineup. Checked in again tonight and boom, there it is. They've improved the home laundry area of the site; it looks far less commercial/industrial. Inexplicably, the action graphics (turned on or off by moving a switch) are comically rudimentary; other than that, it's an all thumbs-up revamp.

Most importantly---for the AW contingent, anyway---user manuals for the new models are available. Here's a bit of incentive to check them out: A third deep rinse option for top-loaders (on the TOL electronic model, anyway; haven't perused the other manuals).

Front-loaders: This is my greatest area of interest, of course, and while the update doesn't include an internal water heater or a much-needed extra-long wash time (20 mins. max), it does have a nearly 30-minute presoak option which should boost cleaning of heavily-soiled/stained loads. They're a little too jazzed about their late-to-the-party 'revolutionary' Dynamic Balancing Technology, but the new model is definitely a step forward for SQ.

It would appear the company is putting forth more effort to woo residential consumers. Worth checking out, kids.



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Post# 799990 , Reply# 1   12/20/2014 at 23:39 (3,385 days old) by Intuitive (Inner West, Sydney Australia. )        
i would buy one in a instant!!!!

Give me a heater model and I will buy one in an instant



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Post# 799992 , Reply# 2   12/21/2014 at 00:26 (3,385 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Give me a heater model & sanitize

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And I'd seriously consider one next time I have to buy a washer.


Post# 800004 , Reply# 3   12/21/2014 at 03:09 (3,385 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Id serously consider a second Speed Queen

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Those look really well thought out. Speed Queen is bar none in all areas of customer satisfaction and service. I can see these machines outperforming even some classics.

Where Speed Queen did the right things was keeping the all metal construction and 1/2 HP motor. No toys or jokes doing serious house work.

I just saw the slanted water fall fill, that's really neat. I guess they are doing an energy saving rinse on some cycles? Better than what Whirlcrap has going that's a given.


If I could make a recommendation; Speed Queen should offer a sound package option for their residential models. Their washer are quiet as is, so a sound package would turn these into a whisper quiet machine bringing about lot of well deserved bragging rights.


I wasn't able to find the manuals, does anyone have a link to these beauties?


Post# 800015 , Reply# 4   12/21/2014 at 07:04 (3,384 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
I hope they will be avalable in canadien stores

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I hope they will make the electronic top load model with matching dryer avalable for sale in canadien stores like sears canada maison ethier (quebec furniture store) braul et martinau corbeil electro the brick furniture store to name a few stores near my area.

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Post# 800016 , Reply# 5   12/21/2014 at 07:26 (3,384 days old) by Practigal ()        

The manuals and installation instructions afe under the "support" tab.

Post# 800017 , Reply# 6   12/21/2014 at 07:28 (3,384 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Expanded Warranty

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Warranty

THE LONGEST LASTING WASHERS WITH A WARRANTY TO MATCH

The best top load washer on the market also comes with the best warranty. Our industry-best 5-year warranty covers all parts and in-home labor*. That’s right. We stand behind both our product and your purchase.

15-year limited warranty Transmission

Lifetime warranty Stainless steel wash tub


Post# 800024 , Reply# 7   12/21/2014 at 07:56 (3,384 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
AWN542

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Is a dead model, it seems. Not sure that was a good idea since you cannot reproduce the fabric selector switch behavior in the electronic model.

Thoughts?

Malcolm


Post# 800025 , Reply# 8   12/21/2014 at 07:59 (3,384 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Oh... And those baffles...

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I kind of dig that the FL baffles now have the same wavy vanes of the agitator...

Malcolm


Post# 800028 , Reply# 9   12/21/2014 at 08:16 (3,384 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

The features on the top load model boasts "full tub fill".. does this mean what I would like it to mean, I wonder????

Post# 800029 , Reply# 10   12/21/2014 at 08:22 (3,384 days old) by Practigal ()        

I see a 3 year warranty on parts and labor, 5 year on certain parts only and 15 on the transmission. It warrants against rust "from the inside out" for 3 years, limited to parts in years 4 and 5. The warranty is no quick read (and doesn't directly mention the 5 years on electronics...which they use as part of their sales pitch elsewhere, so it will likely be revised during the next week), review it in detail...it also references a warranty transfer so another hoop may have to be jumped through if you are buying used and expect coverage.
No heater yet, water is expected to flow in at 125 degrees.
On the FL models there is no mention of reversing the door swing? (Yikes that would cost me....)
FL are just over 40" high and a gas dryer needs 12" of cleance above it...
They are still making gas dryers.
No stats on how much water is used, only that eco uses "less".
Expected life for is 10400 washes or 25 years.


Post# 800032 , Reply# 11   12/21/2014 at 08:42 (3,384 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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So there's only 1 model with the time knob? I can't see what it has on it either. They need close up pictures! haha

Post# 800033 , Reply# 12   12/21/2014 at 08:49 (3,384 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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Yes. I don't think the warranty section is in its final state. The warranty on the dryer mentions the transmission at this point.

I would like to know more about the Normal/ECO spray rinse. It is a short 3 min 25 sec. Is that a constant spin spray? Seems that you can still add three deep rinses to that cycle. Rinsing in both TL and FL electronic models should be a non-issue from here on out...

Also not sure why it is recommended to use HE detergent in the TL. I would expect any detergent to be acceptable.

Malcolm


Post# 800040 , Reply# 13   12/21/2014 at 09:14 (3,384 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I suppose though the Normal Eco cycle on the TL uses "less hot water", the second rinse option in combination with a hot temperature selection would give a good warm wash for everyday loads with a spray AND a deep rinse.
The FL has its maximum wash time on the whites cycle. The manual states 20 min, though, not on which of the 4 soil levels. If it would be 20 min on medium soil, you could get a good half hour of washing on that cycle.
Further, I am thinking about the soak cycle. If it is an actual soak cycle which does not drain between soak and wash, it would be rather useless thinking about the temperature drop during these ~30 minutes. If it drains, you could get up to 3 cleaning and 4 rinsing stages on the FL, or 3/3 on the TL. Think about that, 7 or 6 fills on a MODERN washer. And 3 of them could be ACTUAL HOT water.
If they promote them good enough and prices are not excessivley high, they have a really good chance on the market.


Post# 800047 , Reply# 14   12/21/2014 at 09:31 (3,384 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)        
New Speed Queen Washers and Dryers

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Hello to everyone in Automaticwasher.org,

 

It is about time Speed Queen made a front load washer that has user customizable cycles.  Their washers are fantastic and when my current front load washer bites the dust, which is about to happen, I will purchase the stack washer/dryer.

I only wish that Speed Queen would manufacture a top load washer and dryer stack set.  My condominium does not have the room for a side by side set up, so currently I am limited to stack front load washers and dryers.  I really prefer a top load washer and am absolutely not concerned about water usage.  Water is needed to clean laundry and wash out all the residual detergent.

Speed Queen, if you are reading anything on automaticwasher.org, please produce a top load washer/dryer stack set up.  There is a market for this type of product as indicated by the sales of GE, Whirlpool, Maytag, and Frigidaire.  They produce garbage.  Speed Queen would blow them away with quality.

A Happy Holiday to all,

Richard


Post# 800049 , Reply# 15   12/21/2014 at 09:36 (3,384 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I, too, think the Whites cycle can probably be extended using the higher soil level settings.

I'd like to know if there's a spin after the prewash. That would make a nice Stain Treat option: warm (fill) prewash, spin, hot (fill) main wash.


Post# 800050 , Reply# 16   12/21/2014 at 09:39 (3,384 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I am all game for the setup and new looks......

one thing that has always got me off track, these Lifetime warranties on things like the stainless tub, warrant against rust that would never happen?.....and who's life time?....yours?, the machine?, the manufacturer?...and that's if their still around......this was the same warranty given to my stainless solid tub, if it should need replacing, Wheres McGraw-Edison?....and would Alliance cover it?.....more important, is that tub still available?.....


not just for SQ washers, but all manufacturers when they offer something like this....just wondering, they throw stuff in that would be of no use to you!...


one thing I have been looking for when I hit the stores.....there are all these warranties covering bit and pieces here and there, for X amount of time, 1 to 3 years give or take.....but yet they don't make an exclusive mention to the most failing part of todays machines, the electronics/boards, and bearings/seals!


Post# 800057 , Reply# 17   12/21/2014 at 10:32 (3,384 days old) by Practigal ()        

I would sharply criticize their website in one respect, it is impossible to email them and ask a general question. You have to provide your name, full street address, phone, email address, model number and SERIAL number. So I guess if you're a prospective purchaser you just can ONLY phone them. This seems really stupid.

Post# 800060 , Reply# 18   12/21/2014 at 11:16 (3,384 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
A small question?

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Hello to all aw members,

From what i read on the speed queen website i see they included a french copy of the warrenty do this mean that they plan to distribute and sell the electronic top load washer with rear control dryer under the speed queen brand name in the province of quebec?


Post# 800065 , Reply# 19   12/21/2014 at 11:41 (3,384 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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rates it at 8 dollars a year operating cost. Any other machines beat that?

Malcolm


Post# 800067 , Reply# 20   12/21/2014 at 11:53 (3,384 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Finally SQ is offering dryers with moisture sensors. I would be very tempted to get one once my GE Profile dryer gives up the ghost. Has anyone noticed that on the top loaders, the strokes per minute has been lowered from 68 to 60? And the other thing they were saying was a full washtub of water. I saw the pic that they had and yep it was a full tub of water, but water consumption was just 24 gallons. The other pic I noticed was that the water no longer comes into the washer like a waterfall. Its now a wide jet that shoots across the washbasket. Anything is better than the waterfall, especially during the joke of a spray rinse that they use in my SQ washer.
The front loaders have a Meile-esque look about them as far as control panels oh hell even the whole machine. I love the wash vanes in the drum with the curves...now lets see how they rate from CU...which by the way I take the info that they spew with a grain of salt lately.


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Post# 800074 , Reply# 21   12/21/2014 at 12:19 (3,384 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Silence Claim

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I am curious to know how quiet the fl actually is...

Malcolm


Post# 800163 , Reply# 22   12/21/2014 at 21:52 (3,384 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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I am in LOVE with the black consoled front loader washer they have on the website. I clicked on the Build Your Own link and it was in there. It looks very stylish. Also I read that the spin speed on the front loaders has gone up to 1200 has opposed to 1000 rpms! If they came to australia in that colour and I could justify the cost I would have one in a heartbeat!

Post# 800173 , Reply# 23   12/21/2014 at 22:55 (3,384 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)        

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Video link where they show the new FL models:

www.imediatube.com/video/2481/in-...


Post# 800196 , Reply# 24   12/22/2014 at 00:57 (3,384 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Mike-- I'm willing to bet the farm agitation hasn't been slowed from 68 to 60 strokes/minute. It states 68 spm in the Washability section of the top-loaders' main page. Can't imagine why agitation speed would be changed. I think 60 is a typo/misprint on the Features page.

There is an error on the Specifications page for the front-load model, as well. It says bleach and fabric softener dispensers are n/a, which is wrong. The manual clearly states there are four compartments in the dispenser drawer: Main detergent, prewash detergent, bleach, and fabric softener.

Did anyone else catch other errors?




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Post# 800198 , Reply# 25   12/22/2014 at 01:05 (3,384 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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I hope to one day move into a house that has a laundry room wide enough for two washers and one dryer, because I would have that Speed Queen TL in a heart beat. The control panel looks gorgeous. It would be cool to pair it next to the Bravos so I could have the option of washing with a full tub if I needed it.

Post# 800201 , Reply# 26   12/22/2014 at 02:13 (3,384 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Every FL washer I've owned or paid attention to has had the door hinge on the left.  SQ hinges it on the right, and I don't see anything that says it can be reversed.  This would be problematic in my laundry room.


Post# 800202 , Reply# 27   12/22/2014 at 03:23 (3,383 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I was thinking the same thing on the typos, one area they say its 68 strokes, another on the models its 60 strokes. I would love to get the front loader with the back controls...but I cant justify spending a good chunk of change when there is no water heater. Also has anyone noticed the "cool" water temp...do they do that by monitoring the water temp using ATC or is it a guess? I like the improvements they have done especially with the dryers...the moisture sensor is a huge improvement in my opinion. I am not one for themostatic control since it tends to overdry. I see that with my Frigidaire built dryer that if I use low temp I get really great results with most washloads except jeans. Put it on regular temp and everything is overdried. Friends of ours have a SQ washer and dryer and yes the dryer is fast but my gawd the temps on regular are a tad much. And they use the timed cycle since the auto cycle seems to work sometimes and other times not.

Post# 800218 , Reply# 28   12/22/2014 at 07:33 (3,383 days old) by washman (o)        
Excited

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Post# 800222 , Reply# 29   12/22/2014 at 08:01 (3,383 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I noticed the "cool" water temp setting as well, I wonder how they accomplish that?  Thermo-controlled or timed warm-cold switching.  Very interesting.  

 

I like the new F/L design and the controls are much more flexible but to join in the chorus, I would really think twice before buying a high-end washer that didn't offer a heated cycle option.  Certainly, there are millions of users out there have never had, nor would ever miss a heater option, but once you've had it you wouldn't want to give it up.


Post# 800229 , Reply# 30   12/22/2014 at 09:39 (3,383 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
Guess it is in

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The cards for the MAH4000's to take a look at the last seat on the bus with Rosa.  No we won't put them to the curb, but these new SQ's are on my list now.  PSST and I can afford them at once!  YAY.

 

 


Post# 800232 , Reply# 31   12/22/2014 at 10:15 (3,383 days old) by Practigal ()        

I just tried to call Speed Queen and get some of the issues answered. They do not take email. So I guess I get to send them snail mail. They recommended that I try a local distributor, but their distributors cannot answer questions on why Speed Queen's website is inaccurate. This is not the kind of responsive service I've been reading about for years...

Post# 800234 , Reply# 32   12/22/2014 at 10:23 (3,383 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Certainly, there are millions of users out there have never had, nor would ever miss a heater option, but once you've had it you wouldn't want to give it up.

 

Are you listening Speed Queen?  Or are you too arrogant to understand and realize those of us who REALLY understand, appreciate, and know hot to properly use a front loader's true superior cleaning and gentleness.  Domestic laundry approach is different than coin-op/commercial laundry approaches.  As I've said before, our European bretheren have known this for decades just what excellent cleaning results are with gradual heating to extra hot water temps or properly maintained specific water temps and fabric care. 


Post# 800250 , Reply# 33   12/22/2014 at 11:18 (3,383 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Ben-- I was wondering when the Patronus Absolutus was going to check in on this thread! Looks like SQ is going to swing for the fences with their new residential line.

Gansky and Bob: Couldn't agree more about the internal water heater. Never had one 'til 2010; now can't imagine having a front-loading washer without one.



Post# 800253 , Reply# 34   12/22/2014 at 11:30 (3,383 days old) by Practigal ()        
Speed Queen no email policy

Do they not realize that the generation that refused to use email is 65 and up? Is that their target demographic for the new machine??? If they just want their distributors to take the time to answer the emails, they can always arrange for that by how they work the website internally. But having no email is to me completely unacceptable. Further, refusing to take delivery about problems with their website and their warranty does not speak well for their business practices.

Post# 800276 , Reply# 35   12/22/2014 at 13:16 (3,383 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
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I don't like that they are hiding it. An Email option would be huge plus.


And yes, Speed queen really needs to have at least one model available with a heater.


Post# 800280 , Reply# 36   12/22/2014 at 13:34 (3,383 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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not that it would be a big deal......but how about a stainless drum for the dryer?

those baffles in the washer are unique, but don't look like they go wall to wall in the drum....

and surprised the new baffles from the FL washer aren't also used in the dryer....

those side opening doors of the washer, as Ralph mentioned, are going to be problematic for some people.....that's one thing I liked about Westinghouse talltumbler, no matter what side, the door for the washer dropped down, also prefer a drop down door on the dryer as well....


Post# 800283 , Reply# 37   12/22/2014 at 13:47 (3,383 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
HEATERS

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Our Duet had a heater and our current Affinity has a heater, but the only cycle that involves the heater on either of those machines is the "sanitary" one, which takes over two hours.  For that reason, I don't use it very much.  We've had our Affinity for six years and I can probably count on both hands the number of times I've opted for a "sanitary" wash.

 

Are there other FL machines that employ the heater on more everyday laundering type cycles?  I'm leaning toward being able to live without an on-board heater considering how seldom I take advantage of one currently, but for the price I'd be paying for a SQ FL, I think it should have one anyway.

 

And yes, they should have a "contact us" on their web site that allows for e-mailing their consumer relations department.  It's simple:  If you're on line pushing your product, you should be offering viewers a way to contact you on line as well.

 

Having said that, I'm willing to forgive a company that's dedicated to keeping an effective old-school laundering technology alive through its top loading machines, and is equally dedicated to producing a FL machine with a 25-year lifespan.   That's where their priorities should be.   I'll bet the Alliance back offices are a delightfully low-tech, and as a result, low stress place to work.


Post# 800289 , Reply# 38   12/22/2014 at 14:07 (3,383 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The circa-2006 Duet I used for a few months employed the heater on Sanitary, Whitest Whites, and Heavy Duty ... Whitest Whites and Heavy Duty being to a lesser extent.


Post# 800290 , Reply# 39   12/22/2014 at 14:09 (3,383 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ralph, on my current 2 year old Duet, the heater is used automatically on Whites, Allergen, Bulky Items, Kids Wear, and Heavy Duty cycles.  It's a shame you're too impatient and  don't take advantage of it more than you do.  Especially with some of the soiled laundry I know you've had to deal with due to Dave's health issues. 


Post# 800295 , Reply# 40   12/22/2014 at 14:26 (3,383 days old) by Practigal ()        
Back to the email

The purpose of not having any email may be so that if there are any lawsuits there's much less discovery. It would be nice to think they have their priorities straight but they may not exactly have the priorities you would like to think they have. Any website pushing a product ought to have a way to contact them electronically.

Post# 800298 , Reply# 41   12/22/2014 at 14:30 (3,383 days old) by washman (o)        
Frig been spying on it all along

I have been hitting "refresh" on their page about 453 times a day!

That being said, this certainly is exciting. I never really warmed to the notion of a frontloader however if there was ever a machine to change my mind, this is it. Nevertheless, I won't ditch the TL because I simply don't have the funds to do so right now.

The only thing I am curious is the actual water level. How does the machine know the difference between a large water absorbing load like towels vs say some socks and sanfordized cotton shirts? Or a lot of stuff vs just a little?


Post# 800300 , Reply# 42   12/22/2014 at 14:40 (3,383 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Bob,  part of the problem is that I don't think most of the soiled items are sturdy enough to stand up to the sanitize cycle.  With industrial strength pre-treating (aka a nozzle tip on the garden hose) and some additives like borax and/or all-fabric powdered bleach, I can get by with heavy duty/high soil/stain clean/hot wash/extra rinse, which takes an hour (not counting time for balancing acts).  Also, now that I have a pull-out faucet with a long hose on the adjacent laundry sink, I can easily add more non-dumbed-down hot water to the load.

 

I don't think there's any question that the above procedure is far more effective than what I could manage with the average top loader, even a vintage one that filled completely, but yes, if I had a FL machine that employed the heater on more cycles than just "sanitary" I'd be using that option regularly.

 

 


Post# 800321 , Reply# 43   12/22/2014 at 16:19 (3,383 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Doesn't the Steam Treat option activate the heater on the WhirlTag front loaders during the main wash?

Post# 800325 , Reply# 44   12/22/2014 at 16:33 (3,383 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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The Build Your Own Option looks good - they must have been watching these pages...., now if only for a 1600rpm spin with heater and inverter motor and were done!!

ps the info spec says bleach additive and fabric conditioner is n/a?? am taking it thats a typo?


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Post# 800347 , Reply# 45   12/22/2014 at 17:43 (3,383 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Is anyone else seeing this? I'm on an iPad and all of Mike's and Alex's posts look like a Warhol painting.

Post# 800348 , Reply# 46   12/22/2014 at 17:49 (3,383 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Here is a screenshot of one of Alex's posts.

Post# 800360 , Reply# 47   12/22/2014 at 18:54 (3,383 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
*lol*

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Looks all fine to me (Firefox on my PC, Android phone). Must be them lemon products Apple again... tongue-out


Post# 800396 , Reply# 48   12/22/2014 at 20:21 (3,383 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Wow that's odd! I have an iPad and it doesn't look like that here...


Post# 800401 , Reply# 49   12/22/2014 at 21:05 (3,383 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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OK...three hours later and everything's back to normal. I have no explanation for what happened. Glad I caught it on a couple of screenshots, anyway; proof I didn't hallucinate it, LOL.

Frankly, Mike, I think you and your blissed out cat made for great art. #callingwalkerartcenter





Post# 800404 , Reply# 50   12/22/2014 at 21:17 (3,383 days old) by kqkenmore (memphis tn)        

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I wonder what is going to happen to the last years models. If there is not that much difference in the load size and they get clothes clean then I would just as soon have a last years model even a used one if it has been taken care of.


Post# 800406 , Reply# 51   12/22/2014 at 21:21 (3,383 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Ben-- Most new front-loaders have load sensors to determine how much water to add. Don't know how it works, but it does. The stainless steel front-loader with the black control panel and door is one handsome appliance.

Post# 800448 , Reply# 52   12/23/2014 at 02:40 (3,383 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Color me old fashoned-but I like the mechanical Knobs,dials,and swiches on the older control panels better.The electromechanical controls withstand the severe lightening storms we can get here.And you can manually adjust the controls on the mechancal panels easier.I am not a FL fan-but if I had to get one SQ would be my first choice despite it doesn't have a heater.

Post# 800457 , Reply# 53   12/23/2014 at 04:43 (3,382 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Rex-- You and I approach it from opposite ends of the spectrum, LOL! I prefer electronic controls and front-loaders. I agree that electronics are more likely to sustain damage in case of a power surge/lightning strike, but have had no problem with them on the washer, dryer, ranges, or dishwasher due to those circumstances. Our electricity is very stable out here on the open prairie. Have not experienced a brown-out or surge, but we do get our share of thunderstorms.



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Post# 800496 , Reply# 54   12/23/2014 at 09:57 (3,382 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
New SQ Washers and Dryers

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The heater option would be nice for SOME users but SQ discontinued them because almost NO ONE ever bought one when they were available for over 10 years. Of all the SQ FL washers we sold I only ever sold one to Jon [ Jetcone ] in Boston, where were all you guys when they were not only available and the FLers were only around a thousand dollars.

FL washers generally do not have or need water level control that is user adjustable, the machine puts in a certain level of water while tumbling and the overall amount of water used varies greatly depending on how much clothing is in the washer soaking up water, this system works great in most FL washers being built today.


Post# 800497 , Reply# 55   12/23/2014 at 09:58 (3,382 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
New SQ Washers and Dryers

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The heater option would be nice for SOME users but SQ discontinued them because almost NO ONE ever bought one when they were available for over 10 years. Of all the SQ FL washers we sold I only ever sold one to Jon [ Jetcone ] in Boston, where were all you guys when they were not only available and the FLers were only around a thousand dollars.

FL washers generally do not have or need water level control that is user adjustable, the machine puts in a certain level of water while tumbling and the overall amount of water used varies greatly depending on how much clothing is in the washer soaking up water, this system works great in most FL washers being built today.


Post# 800508 , Reply# 56   12/23/2014 at 10:52 (3,382 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Load Sensing

It's pretty simple:
As on any modern washer, there is a pressure sensor attached to a tube that runs to an air dome at the bottom of the tub. As the tub fills, the pressure in the dome and pipe rises and the pressure sensors senses it.
On a FL, the system usually has several preset water levels. The washer fills to a certain level. While tumbling, the clothes absorb a certain amount of water. If the water level now drops to low, the washers refills to the first level. This is repeated till the level no longer drops beneath the minimum level. Then, depending on load size determined by the time the valces were open (and thus how much water is added) or a flow meter, the washer fills to the appropiate level.


Post# 800652 , Reply# 57   12/24/2014 at 01:55 (3,382 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Eugene-electronic controls can be cool-but I have had the timer board blown TWICE in a new KA dishwasher from storms.Got an older KA with mechancal timer-no storm problems.If the SQ timer boards ave good lightening and surge protection-they may be OK.And you should have a spare on hand!Guess in the Minn area yopu can get some good thunderstorms-think they would come from the Gulf.In the time I lived in the Midwest-you could get some rather severe storms with tornados-if the tornado hits your place won't matter what kind of controls are in your machines.Any will get trashed.In the Southern area I asm in now storms are more frequent and even prolonged.And we are getting some right now.And of course with electronic-digital controls you can unplug the machines when not in use.

Post# 800674 , Reply# 58   12/24/2014 at 06:55 (3,381 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        
Magic Mike Wallpaper......

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I don't see the down side!.....

who knew Mike was a pin up poster boy.......


WHAT?....no centerfold?


Post# 800697 , Reply# 59   12/24/2014 at 09:17 (3,381 days old) by Practigal ()        
Back to email

Speed Queen's distributor does not take email either. I can call them and discuss it with them but I know their sales people are never knowledgeable. Oh joy! I guess some other brand will make a sale here. This is classic run around. No sense of high quality here.

Post# 800712 , Reply# 60   12/24/2014 at 10:32 (3,381 days old) by easyspindrier (Maryland)        

Combo52 - do you have any info on when the rear electronic control front load washer and dryer will be available for sale and pricing? I am interested in purchasing a set. I am located in Frederick, MD.

Thank you,
James


Post# 800730 , Reply# 61   12/24/2014 at 12:12 (3,381 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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will the speed queen electronic top load washer and dryer be avalable for sale in the province of quebec as well?

Post# 800736 , Reply# 62   12/24/2014 at 13:19 (3,381 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Pierre-- Sorry you haven't received an answer to your question. No one seems to know if the electronic top-loader will be available in Quebec. I'm sure someone will post here when there is more information. I really like the sleek look of the new electronic console on both their top-loaders and front-loaders.

Post# 800742 , Reply# 63   12/24/2014 at 13:43 (3,381 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Energystar.gov lists some of these new models as also available in Canada under the Huebsch brand.

Post# 800769 , Reply# 64   12/24/2014 at 16:38 (3,381 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you logixx but when the whirlpool duet set breaks me and my mom are planing on buying a topload washer with matching dryer

Post# 801880 , Reply# 65   1/1/2015 at 15:51 (3,373 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Normal ECO

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I noticed in the cycle grid, the Normal ECO cycle has a 9 minute final spin, while all other cycles have a 5 min final spin. That's a pretty big difference...

Malcolm


Post# 801963 , Reply# 66   1/2/2015 at 07:27 (3,372 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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That is a good thing for a 9 min spin on the top loaders because 5 mins don't cut it. I find with my SQ washer I need to do another spin to get out as much water as I can. Loads notorious for this are jeans and towels. Granted the SQ washer is no front loader when it comes to extraction, I see that with mine. My GE badged Frigidaire built front loader, washes, and extracts better than the SQ washer. Yet the SQ washer is faster time wise, but uses much more water and is a tad harsh on fabrics I find. But this is my opinion and what I find with my two washers here.

Post# 802023 , Reply# 67   1/2/2015 at 17:58 (3,372 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I agree that water extraction is one of the SQ's weaknesses. 710 rpm is a respectable spin speed in an old-school machine, but is comparatively slow by today's standards. The 542 hadn't seen action for a few weeks so I put it to use washing a large load of bath linens today. It purred like a kitten and handled the Bobload well, but the towels were noticeably wet at the end of the cycle. A quick spin at 1300 rpm in the front-loader extracted quite a bit more water.

Glad to see SQ's new front-loader spins at 1200. Between using far less water than the top-loader and decreasing time in the dryer, the front-loader will be a real resource and energy saver. Every time I use the 542 I realize that although it's fun to watch the spin-drain, three large loads could have been washed just as well in the Frigidaire front-loader using a fraction of the amount of hot water.


Post# 802025 , Reply# 68   1/2/2015 at 18:07 (3,372 days old) by washman (o)        
Just got this Memo

To: Frigilux

From: SQ Engineering Labs

Subject: Use of PODS in our newly designed machines

It has come to our attention that recently you purchased the AWN542 machine. We congratulate you on your purchase. It was also revealed to us that you are a proponent of PODS in lieu of traditional laundry detergent. While we understand your desire to experiment, as it were, we are not endorsing the use of PODS in our newly designed machines. You may continue however to use PODS in the AWN542 as you see fit.
We appreciate your understanding in this matter. We also hope you will have room in your home for one of our newly designed FL machines.


SQ Engineering labs USA.



:)


Post# 802028 , Reply# 69   1/2/2015 at 18:21 (3,372 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Still Torn!!!

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I cannot decide between the FL or the TL offering. They both have their benefits. I fear that pricing will put the front loader outside of many purchasers range. Still unsure and as most all SQ dealers wont put the FL models on the sales floor, it will be next to impossible to put your hands on one before writing a near 2K check for the washer alone.

What to do... what to do...

Malcolm


Post# 802030 , Reply# 70   1/2/2015 at 18:27 (3,372 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Ben-- And here I was expecting SQ to include a bag of Tide pods in all their new machines!

Malcolm-- I vote for the front-loader, as I'd like your real-world review of the new & improved machine, especially in light of your having the prior design to compare it to. There will be plenty of reviews of the top-loader from others.


Post# 802096 , Reply# 71   1/3/2015 at 12:10 (3,371 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Dealership

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I stopped in to my local Speed Queen dealership this morning. As of this morning, no official shipment/availability date has been announced to my dealer. He is going to follow up on Monday with his regional Alliance rep and send me an email.

Stay tuned...

Malcolm


Post# 802103 , Reply# 72   1/3/2015 at 13:07 (3,371 days old) by DreamKeeper ()        
Dealers

I spoke with two of my local SQ dealers yesterday and both of them said the new 2015 line would not be available to purchase until after the 1st quarter.

One of them said that the next phase of EPA regs goes into effect after March of this year and once those go into effect that by law SQ can no longer produce the current line of TLs. That's when their production will shift from the current line to the new 2015 line. He said the new line will use about 1/3rd less water than the current line. I'm not sure how accurate this is but this is what I was told yesterday.

I wonder if you will still be able to adjust the water with the new electronic controls? I don't see a "reset" option on the electronic panel and am not sure it's even there on the lone mechanical control model. It's hard see though because the photo of that model is so small.

At any rate I went ahead and purchased the 542 model this morning. Unfortunately, I won't be able to wait until after March. I did a load of laundry yesterday in the old late 90's Amana and got a house full of burning rubber. I guess the bearings are finally seizing up.


Post# 802125 , Reply# 73   1/3/2015 at 16:37 (3,371 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
I'd do Speed Queen again

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I bought a new Speed Queen pair ten years ago.
Have they needed repair? Sure. However we do many loads a week and the down-time has been virtually nil. Obtaining parts and/or service is very easy in Chicago.
Would I buy a Speed Queen pair tomorrow?
Absolutely.


Post# 802143 , Reply# 74   1/3/2015 at 18:29 (3,371 days old) by Mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
After 1st quarter?

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That would be awful to put the, up on their website four months before they become available.

Malcolm


Post# 802402 , Reply# 75   1/5/2015 at 12:28 (3,369 days old) by mr_b ()        
Major Step in the Right Direction

Happy New Year All!

So to sum up the new SQ Front Load Washer:
- Increased size from 2.84 to 3.42 CuFt.
- Dynamic Balanced Spin added
- Increased Spin G's from 300 to 400
- Increased cycle selection allowing more agitation time during wash cycle
- Pre wash cycle added
- Soak Cycle added
- Best warranty in the industry

And since I don't want the ability for the washer the heat the water the lack of this option is not an issue for me.

Seems they hit most of the sweet spots for improvement.


Post# 802405 , Reply# 76   1/5/2015 at 13:02 (3,369 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
And Don't Forget...

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Up to 5 rinses!

Malcolm


Post# 802745 , Reply# 77   1/7/2015 at 06:50 (3,367 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
FL Wash Times

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So, in the picture of the control panel on the website, the cycle is tagged as [REGULAR]. In the manual, the same cycle is tagged [HEAVY DUTY].

In doing the math, the cycle times provided in the grid are for the MEDIUM(default) soil level. They are not the maximum wash times.

So, they question is... how long are the wash times for the maximum soil level?

Malcolm


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Post# 803045 , Reply# 78   1/9/2015 at 02:18 (3,366 days old) by Mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Market ing video

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This just in






Malcolm


Post# 803061 , Reply# 79   1/9/2015 at 08:19 (3,365 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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any vid on how the top load works when it comes to a full cycle?

Post# 803074 , Reply# 80   1/9/2015 at 11:07 (3,365 days old) by DreamKeeper ()        
Launch time...

I just wanted to follow up on my earlier post about when the new SQ models would be available to purchase.

Even though I already purchased the 542, one of the dealers I spoke to last week got back to me today and said that he had spoken with his Alliance rep and that the rep confirmed that the new models will launch sometime in March.

He said its possible that they may start shipping some units out to dealers at the end of February but March will be when they really start rolling out.

Anyway, I just wanted to give that piece of info to those who are still wondering when the new models will be available to purchase.

I do find it odd that SQ changed their website to showcase the new models so early. It almost seems to be a bit of teasing on their part.


Post# 803077 , Reply# 81   1/9/2015 at 12:53 (3,365 days old) by mr_b ()        
Typical Marketing

Many companies announce new product before availability to create market excitement and to get potential customers to hold off buying competitor products by re-directing their thinking to their new offering.

Post# 803081 , Reply# 82   1/9/2015 at 13:30 (3,365 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I wonder if Huebsch, the Canadian version of Speed Queen, is going to offer these same models? I just checked their website and there is no mention of them.

Gary


Post# 803085 , Reply# 83   1/9/2015 at 14:21 (3,365 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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energystar.gov lists some of these models - at least the FL - also as available in Canada.

Post# 803088 , Reply# 84   1/9/2015 at 14:41 (3,365 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Mid March

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I received the same confirmation from my SQ Sales rep.

Malcolm


Post# 803094 , Reply# 85   1/9/2015 at 15:14 (3,365 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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I am wondering the same thing i aspecaly like the topload model and the electric eco dryer cycle

Post# 803175 , Reply# 86   1/9/2015 at 23:10 (3,365 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        
Oh, that be-u-tee-ful Q!

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Did anyone notice that in the videos, the Speed Queen "Q" seems to have a polished, raised effect on the topload models? I couldn't tell on the front load, front control panel models.

Any guess on pricing for the rear control (digital), front load? I think I can see it hanging out with my 542 and blending well--so nice to have the rear control option.

I called Speed Queen directly when they first hit Facebook and was told they are starting to mfg them in January, and shipping in Feb. All things considered, March would probably be accurate. My local Speed Queen dealer was unaware of new changes and was terrified that I told him electronic controls were on their way. He took my number, but never called me back. :(

By the way--instead of email...why not just call? When you speak with them, let them know the email isn't working--probably a glitch or overlooked requirement on the new site (like 60 SPM). :)


Post# 803176 , Reply# 87   1/9/2015 at 23:13 (3,365 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        
Malcom's Imperial

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Malcom, were you thinking of getting the stainless? Do you still have the Imperials?

Post# 803202 , Reply# 88   1/10/2015 at 02:16 (3,365 days old) by Mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Imperials

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I still have my Imperials. I would replace them with the rear controlled models that you are also considering.

Malcolm


Post# 803227 , Reply# 89   1/10/2015 at 09:23 (3,364 days old) by Practigal ()        
Communication

Danmantn,
Call and talk to my local distributor who generally knows nothing and is not honest or call and talk to Speed Queen who insists that I talk only to my local distributor? I think under these circumstances email is called for and, of course, my local distributor, while it has an email address, it doesn't "work" and that is, I suspect, quite deliberate on their part (I am 99% certain that email from @speedqueen.com would get through just fine). They are not going to put any of their lies into writing and they definitely have different stories for different audiences. The only "impact" is that I will not be one of the first purchasers. I will continue to read about these products. and may buy them one day if I can find a better distributor...SQ's only loss is one sale in 2015 which is inconsequential to them.


Post# 803239 , Reply# 90   1/10/2015 at 10:29 (3,364 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
Question about speed queen delivery

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Hello to all,

if my mom was to order directly from speed queen when we have to replace the set we have would speed queen deliver from the us to canada province of quebec (unless they sell the topload model and matching dryer under the hubesch name in the province of quebec) because i love the idea of an eco cycle on the dryer?

Thank you to anyone who can answer this question


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Post# 803264 , Reply# 91   1/10/2015 at 14:01 (3,364 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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Sounds good Malcom. I'm going to get the rear control so that it will fit in with my 542. It's nice that the shape of the control panel will match. I'm glad the wash drum is bigger--that was always a big negative before. It will also be interesting to see how quiet they are--the ones at the laundromat (front load) are very quiet.

Maybe you guys can talk me through how to hook everything up so that they can share water lines and stand pipes.

Let me know as soon as you hear about pricing!


Post# 803340 , Reply# 92   1/10/2015 at 22:12 (3,364 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
New SQ Models

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We had a long meeting with our SQ rep a week ago and he assured me that we will have most new models by the end of January. By DOE rules SQ will not be able to ship most current laundry after January 15th 20015, so it seems unlikely that they will stop selling W&Ds for around two months.

Post# 803344 , Reply# 93   1/10/2015 at 22:32 (3,364 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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Awesome!

Post# 803457 , Reply# 94   1/11/2015 at 12:50 (3,363 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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its sad but there are chances that we might never see the nnew electronique controls models top load and front load in canada unless the canadien huebesch factorys makes them when you look canada quebec speed queen distributors on the speed queen web sit we get this message. Speed Queen is not authorized to sell home laundry in Canada.
Please see our Huebsch Canada Home Laundry website to locate a dealer nearest you.

Go Back - See more at: content.alliancels.net/home/en-us...

Because canada quebec is not far from the us border after all sigh


Post# 803798 , Reply# 95   1/13/2015 at 10:24 (3,361 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)        
Speed Queen Laundry Center

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I need to replace my current Frigidaire Gallery stacked washer and dryer (in my personal residence).  It was great for a few years.  I am now on my second mother board, the washer will not rinse (I have to run the machine through two wash cycles), and I really do not want to spend anymore on repairs.

At the Estate residence I manage, I replaced the old and very problematic Electrolux washers and dryers with Speed Queen Laundry Centers.  The Speed Queens are terrific.  Fast, use water, and problem free.

I really want the new Speed Queen Laundry Center for my home.  The versatility of the new design is just what I want.  Any ideas when pricing will become available? 

 

A great day to all,

 

Richard 

 


Post# 803830 , Reply# 96   1/13/2015 at 12:06 (3,361 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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How is Speed Queen meeting the new efficiency requirements in its top-load washers? Will they use a spray rinse instead of a deep rinse? Will they use Automatic Temperature Control (ATC) to reduce wash water temperatures?

Post# 803832 , Reply# 97   1/13/2015 at 12:15 (3,361 days old) by mr_b ()        
Damn the Torpedoes, Full Steam Ahead

Looks like Speed Queen is gearing up fast. Speed Queen has now listed their new Front Load washer/dryer design to their commercial web pages (Vended Laundry, Multi-Housing Laundry, and On Premises Laundry). These pages include new brochures listing the new front load washers.

Post# 803843 , Reply# 98   1/13/2015 at 13:48 (3,361 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
This JUMPED out at me!

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From the vended website...

30 adjustable water levels

Malcolm



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