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Frigidaire RS-50 Electric Range
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Post# 803953   1/13/2015 at 21:37 (1,376 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Hi, I've been reading this forum for years, but today is the first day I've owned a vintage appliance and had the opportunity to share :). Today we picked up a Frigidaire RS-50 Electric Range with Radiantube element burners, the Thermizer where the deep well can also be used as a burner, a Wonder Oven, and the Master Cook(?) controls which allowed you to set a time to start and stop the oven. I'm trying to find out if anyone knows what year this particular oven was made...I've checked as many places as I can and I can find an RO-50 and an RV-50, but haven't seen the RS...I'm trying to find a manual, and I think knowing the year might help me out.
Thanks!
-chaik
p.s. I'm including the Craigslist photo. I haven't taken any of it in our kitchen yet, but I can if necessary.


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Post# 803954 , Reply# 1   1/13/2015 at 21:42 (1,376 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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That second letter represented the year. I have a 1950 RM-10. RL would be 1949, RN would be 1951... Etc.

RS should be 1956


Post# 803956 , Reply# 2   1/13/2015 at 22:12 (1,376 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Sweet. Thanks so much.

Oh...and does anyone know if it's still possible to get a thermostat for these, or if I am up to the mercy of craigslist/ebay? The oven works, but runs cold. The thermostat will probably eventually go.


Post# 803960 , Reply# 3   1/13/2015 at 22:24 (1,376 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Glad to help.

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Unless someone has one around here, finding parts for a 59 year old range can be quite difficult. Especially one that hasn't been used a lot. There is good news though. You can adjust the thermostat. Look through the archives to see how. I posted on a thread not too long ago about that. Good luck.

Post# 803962 , Reply# 4   1/13/2015 at 22:32 (1,376 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Post# 803963 , Reply# 5   1/13/2015 at 22:37 (1,376 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Also note it takes these a little longer than a modern range to get up to temperature. The manual says to turn it to broiler then turn it to the temperature you want. Even with that, remember patience is a virtue. I'd have it set on a temperature for at least 20 minutes before you adjust your thermostat. :)

Post# 803964 , Reply# 6   1/13/2015 at 22:38 (1,376 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Thermostat rebuilding:

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Get your thermostat rebuilt here:

Dave


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Post# 803965 , Reply# 7   1/13/2015 at 22:44 (1,376 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
That probably is a

Robertshaw thermostat, easily adjusted, as far as preheating goes, if you turn it to broil and back to bake, it preheats with both elements and will heat faster than just about any new range..this range is somewhere between 50 and 54,the 56 line was totally different with the controls on the back splash...these are wonderful ranges.

Post# 803969 , Reply# 8   1/13/2015 at 23:00 (1,376 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Thanks everyone. I was just reading a manual I found online, that showed how to preheat by turning the oven to broil, then to the correct temperature. I also noticed that around this time there were models labeled (I) for Imperial, (D) for Deluxe and (S) for Super and I'm thinking that's what the "S" on mine stands for. There is a 1953 ad for the RS-60 and -70. I'll keep looking. I tend to go overboard with the research...

We got an oven thermometer to check the actual temperature (I was going on the previous owner's word and our baking of cinnamon rolls for what it is running at) and I'll try preheating using the broil/correct temp. thing tomorrow as well as allowing adequate time for preheating. I know it's a process; I'd just like to have my ducks in a row in case adusting the thermostat or getting it rebuilt (thanks for the link, Dave).

My oldest son is already in love with the prep area (we're short on counter space), I love the looks, and as long as it works or can be made to work my husband will love it. We're willing to put in the time/money/etc. in order to do so.

-chaik


Post# 804045 , Reply# 9   1/14/2015 at 11:05 (1,376 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Beautiful range!

If you have not already, please invest in a stove protector mat or counter saver for the porcelain area you are going to use as a work surface. Today, it might be easier to find something made of Lucite, but whatever it is make sure it has little "rubber" tabs in the corners so that it won't move around and will be held up off the porcelain so that stuff like salt won't be trapped between it and the porcelain and cause scratches.

I have an RT70 which was the top of the line double oven for 1954. Your range is similar to mine except that it has white knobs and mine has black ones, and my clock face is red so it could be from 1953 with the "S" in the model number. Your range is far too deluxe to be a Super.


Post# 804057 , Reply# 10   1/14/2015 at 12:11 (1,376 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
I Second Tom

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A protector mat for the work surface is a must. Without one, the porcelain in that area will wear and become dull; some wear may have happened already.

A mat will prevent wear or will keep it from getting worse. Range Kleen still makes these mats; Amazon carries them. You may also have local retailers who have them; look in the area where replacement burner bowls, etc. are stocked.


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Post# 804066 , Reply# 11   1/14/2015 at 12:49 (1,376 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Tom, thanks for the info on the model and protector mat. I'm still having trouble placing it...it seems to have just about all of the features were available at the time, except the double oven. It has the single oven that can be turned into the wonder oven (though I think there is warping that won't allow mine to be turned into the double oven). 1953 seems the most reasonable date I've found so far; but I'd still like to find some confirmation.

I'll take a look at the protector mats; one of the reasons I chose this particular stove was because of the porcelain work area. Porcelain is easy to clean and easy to work on. I don't want to damage it, though, so I will look into whether I consider a mat feasible for us. Danemodsandy, thanks so much for the link; I'd neve even heard of these before.

Norgeway, I don't think I've properly thanked you for the heating instructions; thanks!

-chaik


Post# 804091 , Reply# 12   1/14/2015 at 14:34 (1,376 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

I'm not sure, but had thought that the design of your stove was the design that Frigidaire used for a few years including through 1954, but replaced with its totally redesigned 1955 models (which, like GM cars, started getting more dramatic annual redesigns for a few years in the mid to late 1950s). My 1955 sales brochure uses the 'RV' designations for the ranges. But that doesn't mean that they didn't continue production, for example sometimes slightly different models sold in Canada, or sometimes continuing to sell an older design along side the new design for a couple of years. Which could also explain the skips in letter sequencing. So that all said, about 1953 seems logical to me. I recall in the Imperial forum, a project was underway to collect Frigidaire model and serial numbers to attempt to decode them, perhaps a more definite answer is there.



Post# 804098 , Reply# 13   1/14/2015 at 15:10 (1,376 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Thanks moparguy (I'm not sure what typical etiquette is on these threads...some forums I'm on prefer replies that try to mention responders and I do want people to know how thankful I am since this is my first thread here, ever). It sounds like it can be dated pretty well to the first half of the 1950s, and 1953 or '54 both seem pretty reasonable, based on the info I've found so far. I know that many others are far more knowledgable than I am about stoves; and I've never owned any type of Frigidaire appliance before. My knowledge about them is particularly lacking.

I really do appreicate all these answers. Oh, and I will pick a protection type for the work surface; I'm looking to see if I can find something that will sort of disappear visually on the work surface; I might be able to have an old enamel pan cut down and rubber stoppers put on the bottom, or something like that.


Post# 804099 , Reply# 14   1/14/2015 at 15:11 (1,376 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I'm glad you figured it out! Sorry for the confusion. I guess they changed the system of naming in there somewhere.

Post# 804107 , Reply# 15   1/14/2015 at 16:25 (1,376 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Well, the broiler is not working. Would fixing this be covered in one of the service manuals? Should I try to find a technician?
(I am checking threads and the archives to see if any threads have been posted on the topic previously.)


Post# 804112 , Reply# 16   1/14/2015 at 16:36 (1,376 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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My mom's '49 Westinghouse range had a similar work area to the one on your Frigidaire.

 

Over a period of nearly 60 years in service, it never had any protective covering.  There were some visible scratches, but the one common sense rule was never to use that surface as a cutting board, or to place any super hot items on it. 

 

The stove survives today in another household and is in nice enough shape to draw comments from visitors.


Post# 804121 , Reply# 17   1/14/2015 at 17:42 (1,375 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
RE Broiler

Unplug the broiler unit and check the open coil unit to see if it might be broken somewhere,also check the connectors..these are the metal prongs that plug in, sometimes they get corroded,sand and polish them if they are, the small outer coil operates with the bake units to make balanced heat...another problem could be the wires were prone to break off in the back of the range at the porcelain terminal block where the unit plugs in.

Post# 804124 , Reply# 18   1/14/2015 at 17:50 (1,375 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Thanks for the broiler info, Norgeway. I'll definitely check that out.

Thanks, rp2813. The range we have has some minor scratches on the prep area, but overall it's in really good condition.

And I think I've pinned down the model year. According to the Frigidaire Model Index and Identifier, my unit is from 1953.


Post# 804126 , Reply# 19   1/14/2015 at 17:55 (1,375 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Early 50s FD Range

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Your Wounder Oven has two thermostats, which one are you using ?, also if the broiler is not working that can account for baking problems in and of itself.

It is fairly likely that the thromostat is OK or can be adjusted, removing and replacing a thromostat [ or having it rebuilt ] is a fairly involved project on an old stove like this.


Post# 804156 , Reply# 20   1/14/2015 at 20:53 (1,375 days old) by chaik76 ()        
re: thermostat/broiler

Thanks, combo52. The oven is coming up to temperature when it is preheated (and we're using the correct oven knob). So it looks like the thermostat is doing its job. If it doesn't we'll try adjustment before anything else. It's only losing heat when something is in it, since the pan blocks the heat and the small oven prevents heat circulation. The broiler working would definitely help with that, since it looks like the broiler helps regulate the heat in this oven. Keeping the oven rack high helps with the heat issue too, for now. For now it's more that it's finicky, than anything else. We've been able to successfully make garlic bread and sugar cookies in the oven, so it's obviusly still capable of cooking. I really wish I could find the right manual. I have the 1952 manual, and that seems to have been very similar, but the oven elements look different on mine, and I am not sure if that is because the last person who owned the oven had them hooked up incorrectly, they are missing parts, or if they just looked different in the 1953 model. I'm trying to find pics with open ovens to see if I can figure out what it is supposed to look like.
Once the oven cools completely from the cookie baking I'll take a look at the broiler.


Post# 804189 , Reply# 21   1/14/2015 at 22:54 (1,375 days old) by chaik76 ()        
Would it be worth it to pick this range up for parts?

Hopefully this is my last question for a while:
This is a craigslist ad for a $25 Frigidaire DeLuxe Electric range that is nearby. It says that the oven doesn't work, but that the burners do. Would this range be similar enough to mine that we could use parts from it, or would they be too different?



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Post# 804195 , Reply# 22   1/14/2015 at 23:27 (1,375 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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That range is much, much newer -- as in appearing to have a self-cleaning oven. 

 

I doubt that the oven components would be compatible, but let the experts chime in.


Post# 804200 , Reply# 23   1/14/2015 at 23:46 (1,375 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Nothing!

Would be compatible....Sorry.but the only thing usable would be the cord..your range uses 3 wire units with 5 heat switches, the newer range uses 2 wire units with infinite heat switches...thermostas are totally different as are the oven units.

Post# 804207 , Reply# 24   1/15/2015 at 00:33 (1,375 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Thanks for letting me know, norgeway. I had read about some of the differences with the later models, but my brain hasn't had time to process everything (there's only so much Frigidaire info I can acquire in less than a week!). We've already replaced the cord...the range had been updated to a 4-prong cord, but our house still has an old 3-prong receptacle.
And again...I really appreciate all the help!


Post# 804244 , Reply# 25   1/15/2015 at 07:26 (1,375 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Baking In A Wounder Oven

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Hi Amanda, If you are using the main oven thromostat for baking [ the one with the broil settings on it ] you should try baking with the metal oven divider plate and extra mid-level bake element removed to see if this helps with the baking situation. If you want to get a parts range get one with the wounder oven feature, these were only made in the mid 50s.

Post# 804288 , Reply# 26   1/15/2015 at 12:20 (1,375 days old) by chaik76 ()        
broiler

So, it looks like the element wires might be broken on the broiler. Also, on the tines the second down from the top (in the first pic showing the tines; after that it is the 2nd from the bottom) is indented on one side and built up on the other, almost like it arced. I don't know if that can be sanded down (there would still be the indent on the other side) or not. I'm not the best picture taker; I'm sorry.


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Post# 804297 , Reply# 27   1/15/2015 at 13:36 (1,375 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Well, the coil is definitely broken.  That's likely part of your baking issue.  I don't know what may have caused the arcing on the tines/prongs, but like Hans (norgeway) suggested, they probably just need a good sanding for a better connection.

 

Again referencing my mom's '49 Westinghouse, if you take your broiler assembly to an independent appliance parts/repair shop, they may be able to have it re-wired or reconfigured with radiant tube elements.  The baking element on my mom's stove was replaced three times over the 60 years she had it (she was an avid baker).  The last time was around 2006.  I walked into the parts shop, blown element in hand, and from across the the counter the guy exclaimed "Westinghouse!" as soon as I stepped through the door.  He had a new element for me the next day.


Post# 804301 , Reply# 28   1/15/2015 at 13:50 (1,375 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Thanks for the advice (I know I've missed responding to some people, I'm sorry). I'll look around to see what we have...most of the independent appliance shops have closed, but there are probably one or two lurking around. We can definitely sand down the prongs on the broiler.


Post# 804369 , Reply# 29   1/15/2015 at 20:26 (1,374 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Notice the small diameter

Coil around the outer edge, this heats with the bake unit to balance the heat...I believe you can get replacement coil and also new contact bars, if you replace them you should go ahead and replace the terminal clips in the porcelain block the unit plugs into...they are likely burned as well, I used to have some old parts, but since I moved I cant find anything,,LOL, I will look and see what I have,,

Post# 804377 , Reply# 30   1/15/2015 at 22:42 (1,374 days old) by chaik76 ()        

Thanks again, norgeway. I'll remember about the terminal clips replacement along wtih the other stuff. I think I might have found a couple of independent appliance places, and the local hardware store can probably send me in the right direction as well.

--We moved ten years ago this summer, and I still can't find things I know we moved with!


Post# 991952 , Reply# 31   4/24/2018 at 09:25 (180 days old) by pdchesser (Knoxville)        
Looking for a Deep Well Thermizer

I am desperate to find a replacement deep well Thermizer for my Frigidaire Imperial Wonder Oven Model RS 60. I'm hoping to find the entire unit, since mine is completely missing. There is a working spot to put it in. Can anyone point me to where I might find such a thing?
Thanks!
Dawn Chesser
Knoxville, TN


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Post# 991953 , Reply# 32   4/24/2018 at 09:36 (180 days old) by ken (Ulster Hgts, NY)        

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Look on ebay. Search deep well pot or deep well cooker. Make sure you verify diameter and height. From what I've read here Mirro brand pots were supplied with Frigidaire and Norge ranges. There may have been others that also used Mirro. GE used Ekco brand. GE deep pots were smaller in diameter because the rear burner used with them was the smaller 6".

Post# 992066 , Reply# 33   4/25/2018 at 09:08 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

RS 50 was 3rd from the top of the line for 53, the last one with the full, lighted back panel.





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