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Post# 805054   1/20/2015 at 16:08 (3,376 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I haven't seen anyone post anything about this pair yet so I thought I'd post a thread.

I've done a few loads in it, will copy my text from another thread.. but will have more comments.

I did wash two shower curtains, 5 rags, two hand towels, a bath sheet and a few micro fiber rags last night... I woke up and it had the UE error, the bath sheet was bunched up... I guess I can't let things go over night yet.

From the first post:

"I Gave in...

I couldnt put my new pair where I wanted to I figured I'd try this. In front of the washer on the left is the water main. The contractor wouldnt listen to me when they added the little laundry room on so I was stuck using a stacked pair catywompus in the corner.

Im hoping this will be an enjoyable pair, I'm thrilled I dont smash the doors into anything when I open them.

Doing some bench rags from work as my first load. Hot is freaking hot. Fills the entire time with hot but will kick cold in and out. Ill get a thermometer and check temps. "

and the next:

Not sure what I'm thinking of it yet...

"I do know I got a bit over zealous with my first bit of bedding.. I loaded two thin quilts, a bed skirt and two shams... ... Definitely won't do that again.

It seems to do small items, like lots of rags, socks, undies etc.. very well... Not sure on other things yet.. I kept fighting with a few things trying to understand how it works...

I love the dryer though... But maybe thats because it works.. :/

One of the neat things is how you can adjust any and everything in the middle of a cycle on the washer.

I'm scared of doing pillows... I may have to get that combo unit down the road anyways just to do the bedding...

It doesn't seem to be a machine that can do.. large amounts of things.. But I have to play with it more... I've only done 5 loads today.. :-D "


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Post# 805057 , Reply# 1   1/20/2015 at 16:26 (3,376 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Captions for the photos?

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Can you explain the photos you posted?   It looks like the water level is right up to the top.   How did you get it to do that?


Thanks!


Post# 805067 , Reply# 2   1/20/2015 at 18:20 (3,376 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I found that the impeller-based Frigidaire Immersion Care did well with loads of mixed cottons---personal and kitchen whites. Loads of bath linens were no problem. The large articles---sheets, for example tended to get bunched and tangled a bit. it was fairly useless with comforters. Your machine is of much higher quality than the Immersion Care.

Love the look of that LG set! Very sharp. Thanks for posting your experiences with the washer.


Post# 805074 , Reply# 3   1/20/2015 at 18:45 (3,376 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        
Lets see a video!

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I myself, would love to see it running, as i am always interested in the amount of turnover.Make it a full length video please!!!!!!!!

Post# 805084 , Reply# 4   1/20/2015 at 19:37 (3,376 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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As far as I can tell, it has two water levels... barely enough or way too much..

The rags were done on the bulk items setting. It will fill to that level automatically ... If its on hot, it dumps all that hot water in there..

Not realizing this, I did 4 loads of laundry on hot/bulky and ended up draining a 60 gallon hot water heater... LOL I've never ran out of hot water doing laundry...


Post# 805086 , Reply# 5   1/20/2015 at 19:48 (3,376 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I'm trying to figure out a way to keep the glass from fogging up.. I've got a camera ready because no one has videos of this machine running. That was the first thing I wanted to do, but I wasn't expecting steam to billow out of the machine when I used hot... I wasn't expecting the water to actually be above room temperature (like my samsung...)...

I will say this pair seems to have more thought behind the design than the samsungs.. Even the metal edges of the frame, or wherever fingers may end up are rolled instead of just being sharp edges.. On the dryer where the cord goes, all of the sharp edges are gone... My samsung cuts hands when you put the dryer cords on.

The dryer has tighter tolerances with the lint screen and is easier to clean, I love that its not enameled. Its more of an anodized coating. I guess I shouldn't say I'm against enameled drums.. I'm against low quality processes... There were places on my samsung that had under-spray...

There was a comment on another LG thread that holds in the back of my mind... Like Korean cars these machines look pretty... The other part that was said to that was that regardless of them looking pretty, they don't last... I'm hoping that doesn't hold true.. I had good luck with my Hyundai Sonata I had, but I only kept it a year.. So I guess I don't have any experience with Korean products and their longevity.

I still am in absolute love with the fact that regardless of what cycle or where I'm at in the cycle, I can customize anything I need to and continue without the machine draining. The only thing I don't like is the 4-minute auto drain (supposedly to keep from drowning kids). I can always unplug the machine though.

I do wish it had a heater to maintain temps.

Anyways, I'm gonna go see if I can find some anti-fog coating and maybe throw a video up. I need to wash socks and undies tonight anyways. :-D


Post# 805087 , Reply# 6   1/20/2015 at 20:01 (3,376 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I will say one thing I need to get used to is hitting the extra rinse twice. The spray rinse seems to be about as useless as could be...

If the clothes are smashed against the sides of the basket slowly going around and around, what good is spraying ice cold water on them without agitating them????!?


Post# 805097 , Reply# 7   1/20/2015 at 20:37 (3,376 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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I'm glad to hear someone give more detail on these machines. I see videos all over YouTube that show the water level to the top, but they never show the control panel clearly enough to see what cycles and options were chosen.

I will say that your experiences so far sound just like my discoveries with my Maytag Bravos XL. The Bulky cycle is to ALWAYS be monitored on mine. For some reason, it fills to about 2 inches from the rim of the tub, and the agitation consists of only 720+ oscillations, which causes anything, be it normal clothes, comforters, sheets, etc. to become massive ball of fabric that starts to violently twist around, causing the tub to bang against the cabinet walls. This means that it goes horribly off-balance for the spin even though the setting is locked to Low speed. I have to listen for it to drain and then stop it so I can untangle everything and redistribute the load. All the other cycles, even Sheets, use a "not nearly enough" water level, but at the same time, it does a decent job rolling the load over and keeping things from being tangled.

Also, this machine doesn't temper the hot water down either, even for the Bulky setting, which is interesting. It also flushes the fabric softener dispenser with hot water as well. I wonder if you'll be able to tell on your LG with the dispenser being a drawer. I'm sure steam will collect on the glass either way though.


Post# 805136 , Reply# 8   1/21/2015 at 09:59 (3,376 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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... I've never found a process so... frustrating and annoying before in my Entire life...

Thought I could put this simple little video up to show the service mode.. Well, didn't realize the camera didn't switch to landscape mode when I started recording... The process to flip a small video is a PITA!!!

Finally got it flipped, shrunk from 2 gigs in size to what I could upload to youtube...






I did make a video of a full cycle being recorded... Well.. Almost.. its nearly 2 hours long, 12 gigs in size, and couldn't get it off the damn phone... I'm going to try and find a way to record a smaller resolution video and record another cycle... I was finally able to pull the video off of the phone using a windows laptop, but I need to shrink it and part of the last rinse and spin cycle got cut off.. I paused the machine while I tried to dump the video file off the phone and the washer powered off... So I just finished the cycle without recording...


Post# 805149 , Reply# 9   1/21/2015 at 10:47 (3,376 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

I dunno about these type of top loader. From what I have seen on youtube, it looks as though they are very harsh on clothing and use little water. How can you use a small amount of water in a top loader and do a good job of cleaning without causing excessive wear on the clothing and a lot of linting? Back in the 90's I used a top loading machine made in Japan for a while. It would actually fill up to the top if you manually adjusted the level control, but would tangle things up terribly! If I was washing a load of pants they would all be tangled into one big mess. I just don't believe you can replicate the washing action of a front loader with a top loader.

Post# 805160 , Reply# 10   1/21/2015 at 12:19 (3,375 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
2 Hours?

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How did you manage a 2 hour video from a machine with no heater? Seems like a long time for an LG top loader.

Malcolm


Post# 805291 , Reply# 11   1/22/2015 at 04:14 (3,375 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I am still... ... aggravated with trying to make a video...

I don't want to record at 1080p because I don't want to upload at 1080p but the iPhone knows best :P

Anyways, I promise I will get videos up as soon as I get a video recorded that is manageable.

The video I made that is nearly 2 hours long is over 12 gig in size. Adobe Media Encoder wants 9 hours to render and reduce it... I did leave my mac at work going when I left working on it so we will see if there is something that will work...

As far as that cycle being nearly 2 hours, it was an hour and 40 minutes I believe. It was bulky/bedding cycle (which makes everything deep fill) with the extra rinse pressed twice, hot water, normal soil and medium spin. What causes the time, from watching the camera, is each portion is about 20 minutes. Load sensing starts, takes 2 minutes, depending on the cycle, fill can take from 2 - 8 minutes, theres about 8-12 minutes of agitation, then theres a drain/spin in between each cycle that takes 8-10 minutes. If you press the extra rinse or fabric softener buttons, the rinses are the same as the wash programs. If you don't change the rinse settings, you get one long spray rinse with the tub rotating. I don't remember if the cycle even stops to redistribute the clothes or not during the spray rinse.. I don't think it does. The final spin takes 12 minutes.

What I learned during the service mode was that the bleach dispenser scares the crap out of me because if something makes the basket shift, the dispenser will just dump straight on the floor. Also, the fabric softener is dispensed with cold water. I've yet to have a waveforce motion like what was in the service mode, as well as the whole basket agitating like the pulsator only happens with there are heavy loads.

I did take a wet paper towel with some rinse aid dribbled on it to wipe the glass. That works pretty good for anti fog. Right now, I'm on a kick of using a tide free and gentle pod and an arm & hammer + oxy pod for my typical loads. With the amount of water in the tub for the normal cycle, it seems like its a nice detergent mix and it rinses away rather nicely.

I keep having this small thought in my head to send the pair back when I get frustrated when a cycle doesn't start like I want it to, but I mess with things, spin the load out, re-load and play with the cycles and keep being surprised with this machine.

I am not one that likes to use cold water and I LOVE that this machine uses hot. I do feel this machine would benefit from having a recirculating spray. In my mind I also feel a corrugated tub would work nicely if they were to add another direct drive motor, with the spider being on a solid inner shaft and the pulsator plate being on the sleeve of the shaft. They then could have a machine that would be capable of contrarotation. Short of that, if they put a few paddles on the tub, I don't think it would hurt things.

If they put the recirculating spray and made a heater standard, these machines wouldn't disappoint.

On a completely different note, looking at the little drawer washer from CES, how many of you think they will have a dual drawer machine out pretty soon that allows you to wash two of the same size loads at once in one stacked unit? Also, who else thinks that unit will be sold as a unit able to be integrated into cabinetry and put in a master bathroom or closet somewhere? They just need to make a baby dryer to go with it.


Post# 805340 , Reply# 12   1/22/2015 at 11:50 (3,374 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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I just realized the dryer model is wrong. It's supposed to be DLEY1202V but when I copied it I hit the wrong one. I have the electric dryer not the gas. If someone that can change titles sees this please change the title and delete this post.

Post# 805354 , Reply# 13   1/22/2015 at 13:48 (3,374 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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It sounds like a nice machine. You'll learn its quirks, just like I have with my Bravos, and I'm still learning haha. I've had such high expectations and had to come back down to earth again because of how carefree previous machines are, but then I had to remind myself that even the best washers, such as Speed Queens, belt drive Lady K's and WPs, and GM Frigidaires, etc., had/have their quirks as well. It just takes patience and attention to learn the nature of the beast I suppose.

I was interested to know what the little blue nozzle is next to the dispenser drawer. I always thought it was the recirculating spray, but I assume now that it's also just fresh water? And during those spray rinses, which I expect would use that spray nozzle, does the machine spin at all in between the sprays? I was surprised that mine does not. It drizzles fresh water while slowly turning, then sits still for about 30 seconds, and then does what I expect is the tub engagement test as it drains. Then it repeats this twice more before it starts flushing the fabric softener dispenser and fills to agitate. If only the Spray Rinse is selected, it will do that sequence, and then runs the recirculator for a little while, and then proceeds to the spin. I guess I was assuming that it would do quick spins between since that is how the F&P version behaves.

It seems your LG does handle Tide Pods much more easily than the Bravos does. I don't think mine uses enough water to keep the suds down, because the few times I've tried them, there has been at least 2-3 inches of foam that I have to pause to let simmer down.


Post# 805431 , Reply# 14   1/22/2015 at 23:25 (3,374 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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If everything goes as planned, this video should upload. Its 6gigs...

Its the bulky/bedding cycle that I washed a black/white quilt with. Says theres 540 minutes remaining..





*Edit* Sweet.. an hour and a half later, it says I'm 20% done with 746 minutes remaining... UGH!

*edit 2* another hour and a half later, 40% and 278 minutes... .............

*edit 3* ... yet another hour and a half later... 72% and 128 minutes...




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Post# 805646 , Reply# 15   1/24/2015 at 05:50 (3,373 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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So far, this pair isn't worse than my Samsungs. That alone make them worth keeping...

I'm going to make several videos and upload them, as rendering time and upload times allow... I am hoping you guys will watch what I am washing and constructively guide me on how to make this pair work better for me.

I will say that out of any pair I've used residentially and commercially, I've not had a pair remove long cat hair as well as this pair does.

Reviewed.com doesn't have a lot of good things to say about this pair, but I find that the washer washes my clothes better than the Samsung did. The fact that I am getting 120 degree wash temps has made me very happy.

I love the front controls. I don't know why. I just love them. I love not having to reach in at odd angles trying to get the clothing out of the washer as well. The 4.5 cu.ft. tub is deep, and takes a reach/bend down, but its better than awkward back angles..

I've got AfterEffects rendering three more vids that I shot so I will get those uploaded as soon as they are done. I ended up using an old Droid X to record the washes, but it has to be done in 25 minute intervals for whatever reason. I've got a Galaxy 3 in a box somewhere, I'm gonna dig it out and see if that does a better job. Who knew making washer videos was so labor intensive!

Anyways, Have a good night :-)


Post# 805669 , Reply# 16   1/24/2015 at 09:15 (3,373 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Reviewed.com... just look at the way they load the dishwashers and you know they have no idea about appliance testing. In fact, their editor in chief said that HE top loaders were great because one could just dump the laundry basket in there, while one had to strategically load clothes around an agitator in an old-style machine. In reality, the opposite is true!

When making videos, there are a few things to watch out for: no vertical video taping, always use plenty of light, hold the camera still or use a tripod or similar, use a camera that doesn't always try to re-focus because the clothes are moving. I use a Samsung Note 2 - bright LED and the Auto Focus can be disabled. I record in 720 resolution.

Not surprised you didn't see WaveForce wash motion going on. I think it's largely a gimmick LG promotes that only activates if the cycle, load and water level are juuuust right.


Post# 805870 , Reply# 17   1/25/2015 at 03:10 (3,372 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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Random thought while waiting for videos to process...

www.lg.com/us/dryers/lg-DLEX5780V... <-- The easy load door.. I wonder if the parts can be ordered (hinges and door) and add it to my unit?.... I wished things were simple like that lol.


Post# 806121 , Reply# 18   1/26/2015 at 12:58 (3,370 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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Here is a King Egyptian Cotton quilt and sham being washed. I should have left the extra rinse on... I ran it through another rinse after watching the video...






Post# 806551 , Reply# 19   1/29/2015 at 03:22 (3,368 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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My new addition (WT1101CW) is a step down but is HUGE in capacity. I did a basket and a half together and the final spin was timed for 20 minutes because of the load size. Amazingly quiet, good turnover (blossoming), and easy to figure out. So far, I've done eighteen loads and am so glad to see my work was not in vain. I am waiting for a response on a letter I wrote to corporate regarding LG products and have become quite a big fan of theirs. If I could figure out how to send, a video of it going 1100 rpms for twenty minutes I would. Ive already waisted time filming it and trying to get it here but, I'm not that computer literate. I was overjoyed and smiling ear to ear when Charlie told me it was mine and had my name on it as he took his blue Flair and drew an X and my name,Chuck on it. I send him lots of business and everyone I send buys not only appliances but furniture too. Great washing machine!!

Post# 816008 , Reply# 20   3/26/2015 at 22:30 (3,311 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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Got a little happy at walmart....

Sadly this was cheaper than my cost from miele...


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Post# 816651 , Reply# 21   3/31/2015 at 00:16 (3,307 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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Lets see got this pair in January now we are going into April...

There are things that I love about this pair, I love the location of the controls, I love the glass lid/door and I love the way this pair looks...

I hate washing clothes in this washer... I am not sure if I am doing something wrong. I've tried doing small loads, the clothes just sit and wiggle in the same position. I've tried adding a few more items, I end up getting full fills that end up being 120+ gallons of water per load.. WaveForce is a stupid gimmick, the only time I get a decent amount of agitation is if I run the soak cycle and that adds 30 minutes to the cycle...

I don't regret getting this pair because I've learned a few things, but I think this pair is going back.... I've been taking my clothes with me when I clean the laundromat and using the Wascomat Junior W74's in back just so I don't have to spend 6 hours dealing with the LG. That is exactly what I wanted to avoid by purchasing a new set.

I would have been better off with my first few choices but I had a saleswoman that insisted I was wrong in what I wanted..........


Post# 816653 , Reply# 22   3/31/2015 at 01:32 (3,307 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Sounds like you're having the same feelings about your new machine(s) as I am mine. The only difference is that I absolutely love washing clothes in the Bravos XL, and I love the way the machine looks and feels on the outside. I've yet to have a load of clothes that failed to move around properly despite the minuscule water levels, and I've yet to have everything come out fresh and clean. I, however, loathe the build quality on the parts that matter on the inside, and as of right now the washer is sitting by the garage door because I can't stand to even look at it right now, much less run it and listen to the incessant shrieking and banging that it's been making, and it makes me even more angry to think about how Maytag/Whirlpool is treating me regarding the issue. So it sits, waiting for parts that are back ordered and could possibly take two months to get in, and that's not including the back and forth with techs coming in banging the machine around, and leaving me with a brand spanking new washer that is in the condition of something I would probably not even consider paying for as used.

 

The longer I have the WTW4800 churning through laundry like a champ, and even leaving them spun dry almost as well as the Bravos, the more I just want to sell the hateful thing and wash my hands of this entire nightmare. This is what I get for trying to support and embrace new technology and for believing that something could perform well while saving resources AND be built well enough to even last a year, let alone 3 months.


Post# 816932 , Reply# 23   4/1/2015 at 14:46 (3,305 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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There must be something I'm not understanding when it comes to using this thing.

I mean I use two soap packs, one tide free liquid and one arm & hammer powder. I typically wash 6 polyester pairs of slacks and 8-12 polyester polo shirts. I use the two pacs because of all of the water it uses when the machine decides to do a full fill. Doing the full fill is the only way I get the clothes to move in water.. I'm probably going overboard with the soap, but with a full wash fill and 3 full rinses, it should wash out.

Am I trying to wash too many items at once? If I don't do the bedding cycle, the thing spits a small amount of water and the clothes don't seem to 'bloom' like they should. Also, how the HECK does a spray rinse accomplish anything? (When I don't do the bedding cycle, I only use one soap pac or 2 table spoons of powdered detergent.)

Am I being too paranoid when it comes to amounts of water and how saturated the clothes are or if they move enough?


Post# 816934 , Reply# 24   4/1/2015 at 14:53 (3,305 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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If you have the opportunity to send it back, then send it back! Otherwise, you'll always wish you had. You're already using the machines at the Laundromat! Send them back and choose another option!

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

Malcolm


Post# 816936 , Reply# 25   4/1/2015 at 15:05 (3,305 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I'm not entirely sure, but the load you described seems like nothing extraordinary for a washer this size. And you are using to much soap for such a "small" load for sure, especially being synthetics.
The Bulky/Beddings cycle is designed to only have this few fill levels to select from. Comforters are suprisingly light for their volume sometimes.
The spray rinses really are pathetic sometimes, but normal should do the job if you add one rinse and select fabric softner (this should give you "deep" rinses). The wash action of these machines is usually quite good on the Normal cycle.
I really don't want to blame you, but so far, you might be misunderstanding your washers operation, to put it kindly,


Post# 816980 , Reply# 26   4/1/2015 at 19:44 (3,305 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Try saving up enough of a load to fill the basket at least 3/4 full. And make sure you're keeping fabric weights sorted, such as normal t-shirts, socks and underwear, and light fabric pants, like track pants, all in one load. Keep anything heavier like hoodies and sweaters, jeans and pants, and the like all in their own load. As far as whites and towels, wash only towels, dish towels and wash cloths together, and keep the white shirts socks and underwear on their own. The Oasis machines are finicky if you have all different weighted fabrics together, and I'm sure the LG will be similar. The heavy items get stuck on top because the light weight items just drag back and forth underneath as they don't have the heft to cause much turbulence against the impeller.

 

Then, try using the Normal cycle with these full loads. Adjust your detergent to an estimation of the size of the load and how dirty you feel they are, not how much water you anticipate. Most HE top-loaders use a gradual procedure for filling because of the soaking they do at the beginnings of the cycle, so you won't have to worry whether the detergent is getting a good workout. I'd add whatever options you'd like as far as rinses, whether your machine has Fabric Softener options or just "deep rinse" buttons and what-not. And see if you have any improvement from there.

 

I found with the Bravos that the PowerWash and Heavy Duty, and especially the Bulky cycle, were indeed NOT the best selections for the majority of loads. For example, both the PowerWash and HD cycles use a tiny bit more water, and add alot of spray and soaks during the wash, but the agitation doesn't change, it's the same 360 degree oscillation through out. If the items in the load aren't uniform in weight and shape, such as towels, there just won't be good rollover. The Bulky cycle, while using a 3/4 tub fill, does nothing more than ball the load up into a tangled mass that thrashes about, and then causes terrible off balance spins that have to be redistributed. After a while I finally gave the Normal cycle a chance with everything but towels, and because it spends so much time presoaking and spraying at the beginning, and then washes with agitation that varies from aggressive nearly-540 degree rotations, stepping down to barely half-turns to even the load out, then steps back up to medium and aggressive again, the load moves around beautifully, and has yet to get tangled or cause imbalanced spins.

 

I hope I'm not coming across as a know-it-all, and I know we have different machines, but just figured I'd throw in my 2 cents from my experiences so far with mine. Hopefully it may help turn the experience you've had with your machine around as well.


Post# 817829 , Reply# 27   4/7/2015 at 01:04 (3,300 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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K so I gave in, in case I am doing something wrong, I ran a normal cycle tonight. I washed 9 polyester polo shirts on normal, fabric softener option, extra rinse, normal soil, warm wash and medium spin. I used persil + prolift, line 'a' in the cup (smallest of 5). The cycle said 1:24. I came back to throw the load in the dryer and the collars still smelled like body funk.

I had to run the load on bedding, extra rinse, normal soil, warm wash with medium spin. I used the same amount of soap. 1:15, everything came out smelling clean......

Normally, to justify the water usage, I will wash the 9 shirts with 6 pairs of polyester slacks so I dont have twice the water consumption.

Also, I did notice a lot of lint on the shirts with the normal cycle. One thing about the full fill, I never have lint on the clothes.

When I am done with work tomorrow, I'll re wash the shirts with the 6 pairs of slacks on normal to see what kind of results I get.




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