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Post# 121202   4/10/2006 at 11:59 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        

Hello! New to the site...I have to say I am impressed!

Just thought I'd share my opinion of the new Zanussi Jetsystem on the market, 6 months down the line and mine is going strong...Thank Goodness! I have to say in terms of performance with spinning and rinsing, it is the best modern machine I have had that is not afraid of using plenty of water to rinse, so well done to Italy! Also, is there anybody who has or has had any Hoover Front loaders from the 1980's? Would be very interested to know of a few facts and opinions.





Post# 121204 , Reply# 1   4/10/2006 at 12:14 (6,583 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey Sadose!
Welcome to the site! its alota fun.I Love the sounds of ur zanussi! I'm intregiued to know, does it spin in the rinses like i've heard some jetsystems do? some pix n vids would be awesome if you have any! & to answer your question. i have a 1987 hoover logic 1300!....fire away with your questions!

Darren


Post# 121218 , Reply# 2   4/10/2006 at 13:24 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        

Hello Darren!

Mine doesn't spin in the rinses no, however the Ariston I used to have used to do that despite it being a truly awful piece of engineering. LOVE the logic, very faint memories of them though. I remember somebody having one and when you put it on you used to get this clicking sound for about 30 seconds before the machine started filling. Am I right with this or am I thinking of something else? PS: photos and vids of the jetsystem comin soon!


Post# 121228 , Reply# 3   4/10/2006 at 15:02 (6,583 days old) by miele2888 ()        
Zanussi iz16

Hey Sadose,
I was a happy owner of a Zanussi iz(The one with tilted drum) for 2 and and a half years,
when suddenly the bearings went, water dripped on the motor and my Zanussi was beyond economical repair.

Yes it used to spin with rinse water in while the jet system was circulating water. Quite exciting thing to see.However when it was washing heavy items the suspension could not widthstand the weight and it used ti hit the wall. The jet system was on from the first minute of the wash untill the end.

After that i wanted to buy a Miele( my parents have one since 1984 still going strong and it does a load 365 days a year.
I bought Navitronic for 2 years now and i have to say there is no cmparison to Zanussi.ITS quick,(1.22 with prewash at 75 celcious)while zanussi needed 2.40 at 60 celcious.
Its almost silent while zanussi used to hum in the washing cycle and rinsing performane although no cirulating pump exists is much better. Cloths come out softer. The reason is there is 1200 rpm long spin after wash cycle and after rinse 1. It does only one rinse for 15 min but its a high level rinse unlike zanussi slower in between rinses spin ,800 rpm i think and low water level.
Finally the final rinse is also high level and softener is better diluted not leaving dyes on cloths.You have to try it to see the difference.

REgards

Miele 2888


Post# 121234 , Reply# 4   4/10/2006 at 15:42 (6,583 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        

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Hiya Miele 2888, do you have any videos of your old zannusi, it sounds so intersting, the "spin rinse" sounds awesome!!! loL

Post# 121235 , Reply# 5   4/10/2006 at 16:06 (6,583 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Looks like

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Split Personality To Me!!!!

Post# 121237 , Reply# 6   4/10/2006 at 16:19 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        

in the process of getting some pics of the Zanussi up onto the site. In comparison with the IZ range of zanussi machines the one I have does feel more robust and easily better than the Bosch I had, its currently doing about 16-20 loads a week at the moment and has been since we got it so we shall see if it stands the test of time...so far so good. My next door neighbour persuaded us to go the Zanussi route as her Zanussi S218T is still giving stirling service with no problem at all. Would be interesting to know how old her machine is actually. Any ideas anybody?

Post# 121238 , Reply# 7   4/10/2006 at 16:37 (6,583 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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hey again Sadose,
yea ur right in saying the logic clicks for about 30seconds its the internal mechanical timer clicking its way round to the setting chosen!

i also have a hoover newwave that spins in the wash. which is what interested me about the zanussi's spinning in the cycle, its loadsa fun to see. i was amazed zanussis did the rinse spin as they never advertised it i heard from a friend that they did it!

i have an aeg 74640 in the house which is pretty much like a zanussi jetsystem the jets on all the time. except it doesnt fill while distributing at the same time.

Darren


Post# 121240 , Reply# 8   4/10/2006 at 16:44 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        

I saw the video of your New Wave. Very nice indeed! I personally didn't know of this Zanussi spin rinse, so I've checked mine again and the new version definitely DOESN'T do it, as I said my Ariston used to do it on the wash phase on most programmes and so did my Hotpoint Aquarius (understanding really as they were both the products of the parent company formerly known as Merloni.) The Zanussi seems to only have one drum rhythm for washing and rinsing which seems slightly odd in comaprison to machines I've had in the recent past.

Post# 121244 , Reply# 9   4/10/2006 at 16:59 (6,583 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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ahh yea i had a hotpoint that did the "powerstream" which is just distribution speeds for about 20-30seconds which my hoover does b4 rampin up 2 400rpm lol.

so how do you rate your zanussi? i've always been a fan of zanussi's.



Post# 121247 , Reply# 10   4/10/2006 at 17:09 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        

Personally I like it. It goes on several times every day from boilwashes (i do the washing that comes with my mother's job as a carer for the elderly) through to the handwash cycle. It's very thorough in its action. We had a Hotpoint Aquarius (current version) which i hated as the rinse performance was appalling and the 1300rpm spin was a joke especially when i could manage to wring a drop or two of water out of towels if i tried. Its rinses beautifully by doing 2 low fill rinses, 1 medium and 2 high fill rinses with 500rpm spins in between (this differs if you don't use rinse+) and spins at 1400rpm for a good 4 minutes so cottons are nice and dry. It doesn't seem as "tight fisted" with water as my Bosch was either which I for one see as a good thing. Pics and vids will be taken tonight as I'm off work til after Easter and have plenty of washing to get through...Darren, how do you rate the spin performance of your Logic? Does it rival your New Wave of the same spin speed?

Post# 121272 , Reply# 11   4/10/2006 at 19:48 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        

Ok I have got the first pics of the Zanussi ready for the unveiling! I thought the controls might be a good place to start...

Post# 121279 , Reply# 12   4/10/2006 at 20:10 (6,583 days old) by sadose ()        
More photos of the ZWF1451W

See the link for more in depth photos of my appliance. Happy viewing!

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Post# 121296 , Reply# 13   4/10/2006 at 22:29 (6,582 days old) by kenmorepeter5ab ()        
Video?

How about the video for Zanussi's running of the washer activity?? I will want to watch the video for Zanussi's (washer, spin, rinse and final spin). When?

--Peter (kenmorepeter5a) my friend...I am deaf! ;-D


Post# 121321 , Reply# 14   4/11/2006 at 03:33 (6,582 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Gr8 machine Sadose!
i do like those machines. to answer your question, the spin on my logic is fantastic. i've yet to have a 1300 out of my new wave which i'm at the moment tryin to fix. it has a module problem & cant get up to 1300 which drives me insane. it does a grand job of 800rpm though, got the dryer element on it working & managed to dry a load in an hour & a half in it. So i'm quite lookin forward to seein how quick it dries after 1300rpm.

would love to see a rinse level pic of your zanussi.

Darren


Post# 121342 , Reply# 15   4/11/2006 at 07:32 (6,582 days old) by sadose ()        

More pics comin throughout the day. also working on trying to get a video done as well. i might also get some pics of my next door neighbours 1970's/1980's zanussi as i have to go and clean the filter for her later today!

Post# 121349 , Reply# 16   4/11/2006 at 08:03 (6,582 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Miele rinsing

My Miele W1986 rinses 3 times on the Cottons program if Sensitive is selected. It gives 1000 rpm spins after wash and the first two rinses. The rinses do not fill to a high water level, so I just open the dispenser drawer, put a hose in and turn on another tap to fill it a bit fuller so that the water comes up onto the glass. Even if I don't add the extra water, with the good spins and the 1200 rpm final spin, the clothes are well rinsed. Heavy things get moved to the W1918 for a 1600 final spin.

Post# 121368 , Reply# 17   4/11/2006 at 11:39 (6,582 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        
Very Nice

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The zanussi looks wonderful in those pics!!!, im not sure if you know or not, im have the samsung:D my link is below if you fancy a browze lol

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Post# 121381 , Reply# 18   4/11/2006 at 12:37 (6,582 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Directa Jet

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Love those Zanussi./Electrolux/AEG jetwash n rinse systems, road tested John from Brum's machine last week, the AEG 88880,
had a rather large heavy cotton bed cover, washed perfectly then into his 7o's Hoover computer logic dryer...vented , reverse action every 37 secs...worked a charm...its the only item my MaytAsko always balls up...


Post# 121382 , Reply# 19   4/11/2006 at 12:38 (6,582 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 121383 , Reply# 20   4/11/2006 at 12:39 (6,582 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        


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Post# 121386 , Reply# 21   4/11/2006 at 12:57 (6,582 days old) by sadose ()        

Lovely samsung pics Samsungfl. The water shower from the top of the drum puts me in mind of the the early 1990's Zanussi Jetsystems which in my opinion were good machines in terms of performance but poor in terms of longevity. (And yes I know I currently own a Zanussi!) How long have you had the samsung now?

Secondly, great pics Chestermikeuk of the AEG, quite clearly obvious these days that AEG and Zanussi are part of the electrolux group. I would be interested to hear of the results given from that 1800rpm spin too!

More visually stimulating media should be put on soon of my beloved Zanussi as I have just received a bin liner full of cottons to wash for my mother's client!


Post# 121395 , Reply# 22   4/11/2006 at 13:17 (6,582 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Argh! Mike i want that machine lol

Sadose - Thanks for the pics!!! their fab
I just noticed they've changed the spray nozzel, my nans older zanussi sprays the load with a stream of water like the aeg, but yours its more of a flat spray lol (its hard to describe, you get what i mean tho?)

looking forward to some vids :op


Post# 121408 , Reply# 23   4/11/2006 at 14:11 (6,582 days old) by samsungfl (United Kingdom/London )        

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Thanx for your complements Sadose, ive had my Samsung now for about 7 months, in fact its exactly 7 months old on the 29th lol

Post# 121447 , Reply# 24   4/11/2006 at 16:25 (6,582 days old) by bearpeter ()        
my AEG....

I have an AEG 16810 washer dryer. with the dryer vent being at the 12 o clock position the jetsystem nozzle is at 2 o clock.... the water JUST dribbles down the front of the glass door, hence the official slant on it being " a 3 way wetting system" rubbish
I want a new zanussi!!!!!


Post# 121453 , Reply# 25   4/11/2006 at 16:59 (6,582 days old) by sadose ()        

Interesting point there bearpeter. I have to say I don't think that the Jetsystem spray on my Zanussi provides much in the way of functionality but I like looking at it so I'm not too bothered. I suppose it does aid in the saturation of washing at the top of the drum but to be honest I very rarely wash that amount in one load anyway.

Post# 121487 , Reply# 26   4/11/2006 at 20:51 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        
Zanussi Jetsystem in motion...

Ok guys, first video of my Zanussi uploaded, see link. In brief just a short taster to the start of a 40 degree cotton cycle where you will be able to see the low fill level covers the lip of the drum before the jetsystem spray springs into action and the wash begins. I intend to do some more videos when we get onto the rinsing and spinning.

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Post# 121531 , Reply# 27   4/11/2006 at 23:14 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        
Videos

Right then, alongside the video mentioned in the previous message there are also 4 more on there giving a brief view of most of the wash cycle, covering intermediate spin in between rinses, a view of the final rinse and also the majority of the build up of the final spin as well as evidence on one of them of the balance control kicking in (that damn pink bath towel!!) Enjoy!

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Post# 121555 , Reply# 28   4/12/2006 at 02:05 (6,581 days old) by bearpeter ()        
they are great vids!

Thanks for sharing!!

Post# 121558 , Reply# 29   4/12/2006 at 03:53 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Wow:D i like that! very reminisant of my aeg! cept i prefer the jet on ur machine:D

Mike!-what did you think to your friends AEG then? once rinse + is activated i do think its quite effective! better than a beko! LOL!

Darren


Post# 121559 , Reply# 30   4/12/2006 at 04:25 (6,581 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Aeg

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Darren

was very impressed with this machine, its super silent , and very quiet & stable on the 1800rpm, I couldnt feel any actual difference from the MaytAsko at 1600.

The directa jet really does soak the clothes, thesedays so long is taken up by dampening the clothes and then starting to wash only using the smallest amount of water to obtain the energy efficiency results....love the fact on the MaytAsko because its a timed first fill I can restart the machine and fill up to half way befor the pump kicks in...

The only other machine I found very efficient was the Titan, that used a power pump baffle jet spray, the jets are built into the three baffles and are super pumped into the tub...



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Post# 121560 , Reply# 31   4/12/2006 at 04:28 (6,581 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Titan Pump

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Go to the pics album, scroll down to Titan...

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Post# 121561 , Reply# 32   4/12/2006 at 04:49 (6,581 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Zanussi!!! Come sentirsi a casa...

I'm glade to hear you speaking of Zanussi Appliances...although now it's an Electrolux Co. brand, we're stil feeling as an Italian one :-))

In Italy there are two main appliances idustries: Merloni born thanks to Aristide Merloni, and Zanussi born thanks to Lino Zanussi. After the death of these two firmers, both industries became bigger and have been producing applianaces still now.

Merloni has got Ariston and Indesit brands, appreciate especially for the good esterior design, because they're not much realiable.
Zanussi was the creator of the best brands here in Italy, REX ("Fatti per essere il numero uno" is its slogan, "Done to be the one"), and Zoppas, my favourite brand since I was a child.

These with Candy (by Eden Fumagalli), was the five most important brands sold in Italy until we have known foreing brands as Siemens, AEG, Bosch when in the 1991 Whirlpool arrived in Italy too...

Now Whirlpool is the best not European brand sold in Italy...

That's all, I hope it will make you galde to hear this story...

Good Bye!
Diomede

PS: How could I forget SANGIORGIO!!!!! The brand of my parents first FL wahser, the one in front of I grew up!


Post# 121582 , Reply# 33   4/12/2006 at 07:30 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

I've just reviewed those videos I did! Is it me or have Zanussi machines got a LOT noisier over the years? I remember once upon a time if you bought a Zanussi you bought silence! My next door neighbours 20+ yr old Zanussi doesn't have any of the "motor squeal" when it spins, just a faint rumble at 800rpm for 9 minutes. I never thought a machine used every day since 198? with a 800rpm spin and no service or repair would spin tea towels good enough for them to go in my white knight 3kg dryer for 25 minutes and be totally bone dry! I was pleased she asked me to dry them because I was shocked!

Post# 121591 , Reply# 34   4/12/2006 at 07:54 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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mike!
thats some cool engineerin to make those jets work through the baffles! wow:d how cool!

Sadose! i did notice your videos were loud i thought that was odd for zanussi does sound & look like my aeg in terms of sound & tumbling.

i love old zanussis. high rinse levels on them were fab. i hate water deprived machines. least you can see the water in your zanussi!

Darren


Post# 121595 , Reply# 35   4/12/2006 at 08:09 (6,581 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Quiet

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You`re right , machines are a lot noisier, Zanussi and Philco-Ford & Bendix all used large brushless motors, and the likes of the Zanussi 218T and the Bendix 7142 where almost silent...

But we LIKE noise!!!!just had the old Hoover twinny washing and it wouldnt be the same without the spinner taking off like a jet engine and the "Rattling" of all those belts at high speed!!!



Post# 121601 , Reply# 36   4/12/2006 at 08:44 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Hi

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Hi guys, Sadose i love ur zanussi washer, my zanussi is from 2001 !! and its a FJS1225W its a great machine, never gone wrong and is washing the clothes well!!! My Zanussi does spin in the rinses!! when it is running a long 60 or 90 degree cotton wash cycle it distrubutes with the jet on and then spins at about 500rpm with the jet on for about 30 seconds to rinse the washing. its amazing!! i'll post some pictures up of my zanussi washer soon, as i have a new phone.

Talk to you guys later

Kyle --


Post# 121605 , Reply# 37   4/12/2006 at 08:59 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Pictures of my zanussi

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Heres a picture of my Zanussi, a 2001 Zanussi Jetsystem 1200, FJS1225W, its a solid workhorse, nothing has gone wrong with it apart from a hair grip got stuck in the pump causing the pump to cut out as the hair grip was stuck in the impellor LOL!!

Post# 121606 , Reply# 38   4/12/2006 at 09:02 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
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Another picture of my zanussi spraying sudsy water over the laundry

Post# 121608 , Reply# 39   4/12/2006 at 09:03 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
and another

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another pic!!

Post# 121617 , Reply# 40   4/12/2006 at 09:32 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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nice pics kyle!

mike-is that pic from the machine that was on auction on ebay. i was so close to biddin on that until i had to payout unexpectidly for some god damn dental work! grr

D


Post# 121621 , Reply# 41   4/12/2006 at 09:50 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

My neighbour from across the road has just come across telling a story of how her Zanussi FL1023 on a synthetic cycle starts at low fill and fills in short bursts until the water level reaches just an inch below the top of the door before giving the laundry the thrashing of it's life. She says it's only about 8 years old. I'd be interested to see this in action. However it surely has to be older than that??? Any ideas as to how old??? I think we must live on Zanussi Street as everybody seems to have them!

Post# 121622 , Reply# 42   4/12/2006 at 09:54 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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gees i'd like to see that. zanussi's rule. i have to get one. 2 hoovers, a servis & a zanussi wow it'll be heaven lol


Post# 121623 , Reply# 43   4/12/2006 at 10:00 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

i have some whites to do in a bit. Darren (and anybody else) does anybody want to see more pics and/or videos of my Zanussi dong eccentric things (i can think of a few processes the machine does which are quite novel) name some and il have a go at capturing them as I'm in the mood for a 90 degree wash for these whites!

Post# 121624 , Reply# 44   4/12/2006 at 10:00 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

How is work progressing on the New Wave Darren? Any luck in resolving the problem?

Post# 121637 , Reply# 45   4/12/2006 at 10:24 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I'd looooooooooooove to see more pics! ya even got me in the mood to use my aeg cause of the similarity, i havent used it for weeks! lol
as far as my newwave is. i'm runnin aload of brown trousers,shirts n cardigan through atm. i'm still deciding/tryin to find out how much a new module will cost. i dont really want to fit it cuz i dont lyk medelling with electronics. i was fine changin the heater n brushes etc. but the electronic board jst confuzzle me.

any suggestions would be appreciated. i have to get it to do 1300rpm which i've not seen my newwave do in the whole time i've owned it!

D



Post# 121638 , Reply# 46   4/12/2006 at 10:27 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Hey

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Hey Everyone, i've made a post about ariel on the detergents area of the site, and some websites containing detergent ads from the 1990's

Have a look at them guys!!


Post# 121639 , Reply# 47   4/12/2006 at 10:31 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
More Pics and Vids of your zanussi

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Hey Sadose, can i see more pics and vids of ur zanussi in action, ur jetsystem is awesome, its like a wide spray, instead of a hose spray like mine has, its really powerful, i'd love to see ur zanussi washing whites with loads of suds, do you get loads of suds using ariel on a hot wash coz i get a few using ariel colour on my whites at 60 degrees. (can only use ariel colour, i'm sorry to say that i am repulsed by the smell of ariel biological powder)

Post# 121640 , Reply# 48   4/12/2006 at 10:37 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Ahhh those messages caught my eye as i was sorting through dirty socks for the white wash! Ariel is the brand I stick to these days due to the heavy soiling from my mum's elderly client. I find nothing else can shift some of the stains she likes to put on her garments! Half a cup of Ariel and 2 tablespoons of Napisan along with a splash of Lenor in the final rinse...perfect!

Darren, does your Logic have a Mixed Wash on it? My old Hoover Computer control had one on but it wasn't an automatic cycle, it used for soak and then tumble occasionally whilst keeping the water at 40 degrees and then once it had washed enough it had to be manually switched to rinse. What is the Mixed Wash on your Logic like (if it has one?)

Finally, apart from the latter being newer, what is the difference between the Logic and the Ecologic becuse I've seen an Ecologic and in terms of watching a cycle I didn't see much different comparing it to a 1984 Hoover Electron 1100 in terms of water usage etc. Thoughts on this???


Post# 121641 , Reply# 49   4/12/2006 at 10:41 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Zanussi_Lover. With regards to suds...the simple answer is yes. Even though I live in an area where the water is reasonably hard I do have to be careful with powder as it can get a bit too soapy. I find the suds tend to get worse on the 90 degree wash towards the end of the wash when the jetsystem switches off before it puts 7 litres of cold water in for the cool down... once the water is heated and it's mid wash I believe that the jetsystem spray acts as a foam suppressant.

Post# 121643 , Reply# 50   4/12/2006 at 10:52 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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hey Sadose!
to answer ur Questions.I DO have a mixed load prog i've not used it yet. but now u've said how it works i will give it a try. i didnt know how it worked cause no manual with the machine. i do truely love this machine to the ground & i will continue to revive it time after time. as i will with my other machines.

differences between logic & ecologic is merely water usage i believe. i do like both these machines.

i was considerin an ecologic on ebay when my logic went wrong but managed to sort the problem so i didnt need it.

I cant believe you had a computer logic how jealous am i!!! dream machine to find for me is one of those. even if the cycles are probably the same as my machine! there just real pretty!

So are you happy with your zanussi?!! it certainly looks very nice. & that 7kg drum is huge. i'd really like the 8kg Electrolux insight. but the lack of water & price detere me a little.

D


Post# 121644 , Reply# 51   4/12/2006 at 11:05 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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Love ur zanussi sadose!! it is totally awesome, i've always wanted to see how zanussi would adapt the jetsystem by altering the pressure of the pump and how many litres are sprayed out per minute. First they made the jet hose bigger and then they changed the hose to three holes in the top of the seal so the water sprays outwards like yours has. Its wierd how zanussi dishwashers are now called Jetsystem lol, they were always called Aquapulse which i thought sounded more appropriate for a dishwasher!!

Heres a pic of a jetsystem diagram i found on the internet, it was originally in a zanussi brochure from 1994-1998

Kyle


Post# 121645 , Reply# 52   4/12/2006 at 11:05 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Darren

The computer control 1100 I had is actually pre logic. It was made in 1984 and i believe formed the basis of the standard logic's when they came out a couple of years after, the computer logic was more advanced than the computer control I had. I have a feeling they may have made the mixed wash an automatic programme on the Logic but am unsure. If they have I presume the cycle would run as a compromise between Minimum Iron and Delicates.

On the whole I am very happy with my Zanussi, I chose it due to the fact that if you put it on Rinse+ on cottons you get 2 more rinses not just 1 and if you use rinse+ and easy iron combination on a cotton cycle you get 8 rinses! After the huge disappointment with the Hotpoint rinsing I decided to get this one especially as some of our neighbours have older Zanussi's and they all praise them highly.

Talking of Large capacity washing machines, I wonder...just out of interest what the Hotpoint Extendia and Aqualtis are like. I personally won't be purchasing either as I have gone off Hotpoint in a big way..but it's food for thought.



Post# 121646 , Reply# 53   4/12/2006 at 11:10 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Kyle

My auntie had a Zanussi Jetsystem FJ1033 I think it was the 1990/1991 model... it was rubbish to be honest as the bearings were always going on it however... her machine had no specific jet for the spray like yours and mine does. Instead the pump used to just spray the water through the paddles and holes in the drum from the top. I never thought much of it, but it definitely had a recirculation pump as it used to spray when the drum was stationary, but in essence was nothing special as I think of it as a glorified version of all of the machines on offer today in the fact that their paddles pick up water and spray it onto the washing when the drum rotates.


Post# 121648 , Reply# 54   4/12/2006 at 11:13 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Old Zanussi washers

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The reason i bought a Zanussi was because my friend bought 2 Zanussi FL812 washers in 1989 and she replaced them in 2001 after they both broke down after being used solidly 10 times a day 7 days a week for 12 years. Now that is a work horse lol!! I've always liked that zanussi machine ever since i was a child, the FL812 has in induction motor which makes them really quiet on the wash and spin cycles, plus they use loads of water and they have lots of programmes on dial, i believe on the FL812 washer the cycles go from A-X i believe, i also loved the way that u pulled the dial out to start the programme on them. I can remember my brother had a tricity bendix washer that had a pull out dial. it was great

Heres a pic of a Zanussi FL812 from 1989


Post# 121651 , Reply# 55   4/12/2006 at 11:15 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Zanussi washer

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Sadose was your aunties washer like this or did it have a dark grey control panel

My stepbrother had a Zanussi washing machine like this back in 2000, it was his aunties washer



Post# 121652 , Reply# 56   4/12/2006 at 11:16 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

nice machine and very 80's esque with grey! I wonder...as a follow up to my previous post...did the water level used to go right upto just an inch below the door on high fill as it looks like it's possibly the same era as my neighbours FL1023.

Post# 121653 , Reply# 57   4/12/2006 at 11:17 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Kyle!!! That is the identical machine to what my auntie had. You are indeed correct!

Post# 121656 , Reply# 58   4/12/2006 at 11:23 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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cool, i loved my brothers zanussi, i knew the water sprayed through the paddles on earlier versions as my mums friend has a 1994 FJ1094 i used to go round and when i used to watch it. I used to do my brothers laundry for him stay at his house, i never understood why on his washer it had a fast spin button, i've heard of a slow spin button but not a fast spin button lol.

I love Zanussi's

Kyle

P.S sadose what is your favourite lenor scent??


Post# 121659 , Reply# 59   4/12/2006 at 11:27 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Well I've always liked the Blue one. It's a firm family favourite in our household. I was appalled when they took the green alpine fresh off the market it used to smell great (in 1995 in my old Colston Ariston 850XD washer dryer) For mine and my family's washing I still use spring awakening (blue) but for my mother's elderly client I use the new pink one (mango and orange i think it is) nice and strong and it manages to cover the smell of the ariel.

Post# 121661 , Reply# 60   4/12/2006 at 11:30 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Am i right in thinking that on some older Zanussi's if the fast spin button wasn't pressed it would only spin at 400rpm even on the cottons cycles? I know I've seen it somewhere before where the fast spin button was permanently pressed in so the user could get their 800/1000/1200 on cycles A-D or A-F.

Post# 121663 , Reply# 61   4/12/2006 at 11:35 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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cool, i like the spring awakening lenor next to summer breeze and stayfresh lenor, i love the pink one too, thats lovely, it smells a bit like watermelon which is nice!!. My mum likes comfort though, the blue one or the pink one, Mum sometimes uses Persil Biological powder, when she doesn't feel like using ariel. This cleans quite well, is low sudsing and smells quite subtle so i can use any softener with it without getting a strong smell of detergent dominating the softener.

My brother had the tricity bendix version of this
this is a Zanussi Aquacycle 800/ Zanussi Delta they used to call it.

Kyle


Post# 121664 , Reply# 62   4/12/2006 at 11:40 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

That looks very similar to one I had. I had a Zanussi Nexus FL1084, it was decent, it had a light on the door to tell you it was locked like yours does, but the door interlock was a pain, I think I had 3 new ones on it in 8 months, I ditched that in 01 and bought an Ariston which was a mistake.

Kyle, do you know what the significance of the rinse sensor injection system on some jetsystems is? I wonder how this works? I know it was present on the last generation of 4.5kg load jetsystems before the kind that you have was launched. It obviously had some operational merit???


Post# 121669 , Reply# 63   4/12/2006 at 11:50 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
RSI (Rinse Sensor Injection)

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I think the Rinse Sensor injection was some sort of foam sensor or turbidity sensor, or something there to use less water during the rinses to be more environmentally friendly lol. Don't quote me on that, but i think the jetsystem rsi range was meant to have a better pump, to recirculate more water thus more litres of water is pumped out per minute ensuring less water usage but providing a better rinse.

Kyle


Post# 121670 , Reply# 64   4/12/2006 at 11:58 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Kyle. Do u remember much about the Hoover Electronic your parents had when you were young? my mother had the model with the silver door catch and the timer that made some really strange noises. it lasted 14 yrs. Did the one you had have a round cornered, flush fitting door with a push button to open the door?

Post# 121673 , Reply# 65   4/12/2006 at 12:07 (6,581 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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Yes they did, it was 1991 and i woke up at 3 years old with the 1982 Hoover Electronic 1100 Plumbed in, mine had the push button door and the rounded edge square door. It had a pull out dial which i loved, it was really good at washing, it went from A to H on the dial

A Bio Prewash
B Whites
C Whites Economy
D Fast coloureds
E Special Cares i think it was some sort of synthetics wash with the Half spin button pressed in
E Non fast coloureds with the full spin button pressed in
F woolens with the wool button pressed in
F Delicates with the half spin button pressed in
G Special Treatments (Softener Rinse)
H Spin Dry 1100
0 Off

I can remember the programmes even though it was nearly 15 years ago lol. I loved this machine i loved the high water levels and the loud spin that rattled the cupboards lol

Absolute Legend

Kyle


Post# 121674 , Reply# 66   4/12/2006 at 12:11 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Sadose: i have been contemplating the extendia & aqualtis's b4. I'm now unsure. they both look very nice. but the old merloni quality worries me. or lack of should i say.

ahh your old computer control must be from a similar range that of electron energy control stuff then? my friend had an electron 1100 it was great. I'd never have dreamed then that i would own my own one day. lucky me:D

*digs out brochure* Quote " Rinse Sensor Injection technology & automatically adjusts rinsing to cope with the amount of suds in each wash for perfect end results everytime." Un quote.

well you could speculate many things out of that. i would've said either a foam suppressor or adds more water/slower tumbling phase. i dont know....

my friend had a FL1084 & i loved goin round to see it on. one day i went round & my eyes fel out my head when i saw a then new hotpoint aquarius WMA forget the numba 1300rpm machine. in oyster! i was like wooooooah. but wow at the same time cause i'd never seen one of those in person.

nice to know zanussi havent totally given up on what they stand for i think.

D





Post# 121675 , Reply# 67   4/12/2006 at 12:13 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

programme E on ours was Minimum Iron, a 50 degree synthetic wash, i think they change its name as yours was the newer model. i always remember on the final spin the machine would be at 800 rpm, the timer would advance, the motor slowed down and then rose to 1100rpm with fury! Ours used to have a really noisy timer which I used to describe as a kid "when the tub goes to the right it goes T and when it goes to the left it goes T.....T!" and was much louder than what i call the "pin prick" sounds of more modern timers.

Post# 121677 , Reply# 68   4/12/2006 at 12:18 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Darren: Have you had an energy control series Hoover Electron then? I'd love one of them. my child minder had one and I thought at the age of 4 it was the bees knees, she had the 1100 de luxe and the school i went to had the 800 de luxe. I liked the way it used to do short tumbles on whites heavy soil (i thought longer tumbles would have been better!) I loved the pushbutton to open the drawer with. Never really understood what the "low temp 40" and "low temp 60" buttons were for though?!?!

Post# 121686 , Reply# 69   4/12/2006 at 12:39 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Ooooh Darren! Before i forget. Any chance of seeing some more pics of your prize beast (Logic) ive seen one or two of it but would love to see some in depth ones especially of the control panel. So if you haven't been using the AEG then what has been getting exercise of late? Logic? New Wave? Quartz?

Post# 121688 , Reply# 70   4/12/2006 at 12:45 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I havent specifically had one no. my best friend did & i used it regularly so you could say i did lol.

the idea of the 45degree n 60degree button were for lighter loads i think to reduce energy consumption. looks good on paper i guess.

you can see pics & videos of my logic i have a few! i will post them in a bit.

D


Post# 121692 , Reply# 71   4/12/2006 at 12:59 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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posted sum pix www.putfile.com/dazzaroo...

D


Post# 121699 , Reply# 72   4/12/2006 at 13:05 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        
Logic

Love the pics Darren. On a cotton wash cycle, after the final spin does your Logic do tiny little tumbles with the pump not operating before it finishes? (They never called it "fluffing cycle" in the 80's LOL)

Post# 121701 , Reply# 73   4/12/2006 at 13:07 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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if you check back on my putfile page in a sec im uploadin logic cooldown, & a spin video. no it only does the "tiny tumbles" afta the synthetic spin! :D

~D~


Post# 121714 , Reply# 74   4/12/2006 at 14:09 (6,581 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        
Its been busy on 'ere today! LOL

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Hiya

Thanks for the vids Sadose there ace! would like to see more... lol

and thanks for the pics darren, i like the paddels on the new wave! In regards to your NewWave probs, you should try...

www.washerhelp.com/...

The guy who runs it specialises in hoovers! Hes really good... You could post your problems for free on the forum and he'd walk you through how to fix it... but i think its closed now! However, you might find previous posts from someone else who has had a similar problem.

Mike: i love the Titan, i remember them showing it on 'The Big Breakfast' on channel four, lol! The designer was talking the presenters through it


Post# 121715 , Reply# 75   4/12/2006 at 14:11 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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in the meantime heres a pic of my aeg. i need to take some of it in my utility this just gives you an idea of it at least!

putfiles taking an aaage to upload. *yawn*

D


Post# 121725 , Reply# 76   4/12/2006 at 14:50 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        
Siemens anybody?

Just been to my other half's for an hour and thought i would capture a few pics of a 2yr old Siemens. See link!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO sadose's LINK


Post# 121733 , Reply# 77   4/12/2006 at 15:18 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        
Logic

Splendid vid Darren!

Was going to do a video of the Zanussi on whites but i decided it wasnt going to be very entertaining as there wasnt much laundry to wash. I have some cleaning cloths to do later this evening so I will upload fresh material then!


Post# 121750 , Reply# 78   4/12/2006 at 15:52 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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RSI i dug out an old brochure that explain Rinse sensor injection better. hes what it says;

"The Rinse Sensor accurately measures the amount of suds during rinsing, determines the quantity of residual detergent and then adjusts the rinse water intake & spin profile during rinsing. The result is outstanding wash performance with maximum economy. Maximum water consumption for 4.5kg of cottons is miserly 58litres with the state of the art directa fj1200 washing machine.

good stuff.

D


Post# 121764 , Reply# 79   4/12/2006 at 16:16 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

how technical lol!!!

that siemens that ive put pics of on putfile has got something similar called hydrosensor ive yet to see what thats all about as yet. i know its something to do with rinsing.


Post# 121770 , Reply# 80   4/12/2006 at 16:34 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Fantastic Logic videos Darren, if only machines were made like that today. its evidence like that which makes me want to turf out the outhouse, get a bit of plumbing done and go and find a logic and an energy control electron or an electron dual spin! (question actually...what did hoover mean by dual spin???) I have a theory but it doesn't quite make sense...

Post# 121771 , Reply# 81   4/12/2006 at 16:44 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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hydrosensors meant to sense the clarity of the water & adjust the rinses/water apparently.

put a couple of pics up of my aeg washing. i missed the rinses because i was outside with the newwave lol doh! i'll capture that next time. & a video of my logic final spin up to 1300rpm

D


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Post# 121775 , Reply# 82   4/12/2006 at 16:48 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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im puzzled by that too. its either fast & slow spin or anti & clockwise tumbling lol i have no idea! my machines are lined up in my garage. much to my fathers discontent lol. but i dont care:D:D:D

to think it all started with the logic in the shed. well thats not technically true. it stood in my utility for 3months while my parents holidayed in spain hehe & they came back to the grand site of the logic. cant think of a better thing to see once i've gotten back in the country from a trip! lol

D


Post# 121780 , Reply# 83   4/12/2006 at 16:54 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Lovely work! Darren, any ideas on the theory of dual spin? I thought you might know as you have answered a lot of my unanswered questions lol. I've tried to research this model of Hoover (A3256) but have got nowhere with it.

Post# 121782 , Reply# 84   4/12/2006 at 16:54 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

ahhhhh!!! That would make sense.!

Post# 121784 , Reply# 85   4/12/2006 at 16:56 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

I agree, the boss of laundry awaits for you to fill it up with holiday gear and chuck it on programme D! (maybe thats just my view on it lol)

Post# 121786 , Reply# 86   4/12/2006 at 16:58 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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im really not sure. i can but think that it is the option of bein able to select fast/slow spin. cause i remember that one of the models was like one speed i think which was 800rpm dont quote me on that. i'm just guessing.

i've said it endless times before in conversation with jon & dan & steve on msn & in person. i would love to see a 2006 hoover washing machines that was a genuine hoover without any candy interference i believe it would be innovative & style as hoover always were:D

Thats my take on it anyway

D


Post# 121787 , Reply# 87   4/12/2006 at 17:01 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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finally got my final spin video to upload on putfile check it out. logic doin 1300rpm n sum pix of my aeg in the mainwash

D


Post# 121788 , Reply# 88   4/12/2006 at 17:02 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Post# 121789 , Reply# 89   4/12/2006 at 17:06 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

Couldn't agree more and I would love to own a modern day version of something 100% british from Merthyr Tydfil. Love the way your logic goes straight into distribution as its emptying its tub full of water. Strangely every hoover from that era does that but my computer control didn't...instead it behaved more like my zanussi does by tumbling, stopping and then tumbling the other way and it used to burst into a spin without the motor picking up the speed to force the clothes to the drum..we used to have some entertainment keeping the machine in it's slot, but only at 500rpm as soon as it went to 800 and 1100 it seemed to stabilise. I imagine my beloved computer control went to the scrapheap after my mother ordered that it must be removed and replaced with a Soft Wave! Really annoyed me that as well it only needed a set of carbons to make it work again!!! And the soft wave must have been made on a friday because after 6 months i ordered that was removed from the house!

Post# 121793 , Reply# 90   4/12/2006 at 17:12 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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lol sounds like you didnt have much luck when you got rid of the old faithful. wow thats interesting about the distribution sounds equally as fun tho! my quartz is the same but jumps str8 into distribtion pinning everything against the sides from the minute the pump starts. tis all very dramatic lol.

the only question i ask myself is when i get somewhere to live by machine. which machine will make the cut for the kitchen cabinet slot lol i figured i'd swap them over every few months! lol

D


Post# 121796 , Reply# 91   4/12/2006 at 17:20 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

you could do that if you had the space and time lol. However out of your collection I know what would go in between my two kitchen cabinets and that would be the Logic! As i was driving home this evening I also thought of something else ive seen on a logic. "Supercare" Am i right in thinking its like Woollens but the wash is done in cold water topped off with an 800rpm final spin?

Post# 121802 , Reply# 92   4/12/2006 at 17:36 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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i've yet to use that either. god im rubbish lol. get stuck in my ways lol. so it sounds like its just woollens but cold water then?

i love the high water level on it. i just wish the synthetic cycles span in the rinses.

D


Post# 121804 , Reply# 93   4/12/2006 at 17:44 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        
Alphabet time?

So Darren what programmes do you actually use on your logic and your new wave? Woman that used to live opposite me had the washer dryer version of your logic and everything used to get washed on D! On my soft wave i used to use programme 8 a lot for some reason then back round the dial for a final spin because the short spin after 8 used to leave them too wet.

Post# 121805 , Reply# 94   4/12/2006 at 17:48 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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weeeeeeeell. i use C,D,E J & K mainly. i've bin doin most things on D so i can get the spins between the rinses & let it do 800rpm final speed. Even better rinsing.

if it just did it on the prog it'd b easier lol the quartz does!!! lol.

on the newwave i use 2, 4, 5, 6, & 13 for seperate dry.

it does a grand job considering it'll only do 800rpm for the moment. gonna get around to resolvin that this week or next week.

D


Post# 121807 , Reply# 95   4/12/2006 at 17:52 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

whats the problem? the module?

i noticed on one of your new wave videos on occasions the drum struggles to turn a bit as though the motor is labouring but once it gets going its fine. is it all related?

also with your new wave does the water level never rise more than 3 inches up the door glass for high fills? just a query because my softwave never did and it only did that on programme 10 which was neither use nor ornament!


Post# 121808 , Reply# 96   4/12/2006 at 17:59 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Yea im suspectin module.
i changed the brushes. the motor seems in sound condition. it does struggle to turn sometimes & once it gets over that intital tumble its all fine. yea high fill on it is only 3 inches up the door. i quite like it though. i top it up now & again dependin how im feelin lol. nothin quite beats my logic feel greedy thing that it is. lol prog 10 on mine is fast spin.

D


Post# 121812 , Reply# 97   4/12/2006 at 18:09 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

prog 10 on the softwave was wool if u pressed the wool button but a 30 degree cool wash if u didnt. We got an exchange on that soft wave for a hoover performaEco. That was useless! Breaking down all the time! And...this is the best bit...that machine used to do 4 rinses on cotton cycles...however if you pressed super rinse, it would still do 4 rinses but use LESS water! It had an over sensitive balance control which meant in 8 months we kept it I only ever witnessed 1100rpm spin 3 times and that was washing a 5kg load of socks and smalls!! Put a shirt or two in and there was no chance. I changed it for the zanussi FL1084 which was already 6yrs old when i bought it and needed work doing to it to get it to drain as the drawer drum and filter was full of blue plastic! I did find a way round the spin problem on the Performa Eco and that was when the timer was due to click to the finish position,to get hold of the dial and force it back to the spin position it was trying to move from and then i used to get the 1100 spin! Hardly automatic lol

Post# 121814 , Reply# 98   4/12/2006 at 18:18 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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gees thats labour intensive! thats bizzare about the super rinse lol. was it backward? lol ahh the good ole zanussi saved the say hey.why did you get rid of that? well i was gonna get a Hoover Quattro seein as i've always bin intregued by them, sounds as though it'll last me all of 5mins tho.

Post# 121821 , Reply# 99   4/12/2006 at 18:29 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

got rid of the FL1084 due to bearing pump and door interlock failure so we went and bought a brand new ariston **coughs** MISTAKE NUMBER 343!!!

Post# 121823 , Reply# 100   4/12/2006 at 18:32 (6,581 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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lol damn. bet you were sad to see that go. i liked how the aristons distributed in the wash though. prb best thing they actually did.



Post# 121828 , Reply# 101   4/12/2006 at 18:45 (6,581 days old) by sadose ()        

i agree! mine had a very noisy motor though at 1400rpm it was terrible! ive just done a vid of the zanussi making a few bubbles on a 90 degree wash which will be uploaded in the next 10 mins.

Post# 121880 , Reply# 102   4/12/2006 at 21:24 (6,580 days old) by sadose ()        
Pictures and Videos

Right then chaps: More visually stimulating stuff for you. See link below, I will summarise for the people who like to try before they buy!

New pics consist of: A shot of the display, then a halfway through a boilwash cycle, then a few shots of the filling for the rinse following that hot wash. ***See my lovely high fill level!***

New videos: A short clip of that boilwash, last part of the rinse fill showing clearly how far up the door the high level fill is, a clip showing pumping out, then the last two are of the spin speed getting upto 1400 and then lastly a short clip of the machine going from 1400 down to a standstill. ENJOY!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO sadose's LINK


Post# 121920 , Reply# 103   4/13/2006 at 01:38 (6,580 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Enjoyed the videos matey!
quite a good rinse fill. Was that with super rinse?


Post# 121932 , Reply# 104   4/13/2006 at 03:52 (6,580 days old) by bearpeter ()        
anyone tried the new comfort softener?

New Comfort Conditioning creme....
treats your clothes with small amounts of sweet almond oil and the other with small amounts of jojoba!
I thought I was in the wrong aisle of Sainsburys and was buying a new hair conditioner!!!!
Small is very sophisticated and flippin' expensive.
It was on speacial offer but duobt I would buy it full price!!
Anyway, give it a try, the clothes after drying smell lovely!

Now where are my "get butch quick" pills???


Post# 121933 , Reply# 105   4/13/2006 at 03:58 (6,580 days old) by bearpeter ()        
why doesnt my aeg ....?

Why doesnt my aeg fill to that level on the Cottons rinses? I would be almost happy then!
The water level on the cottons rinses doesnt even show over the lip of the door seal!
I can see a change of machine coming on..... sadly


Post# 121935 , Reply# 106   4/13/2006 at 04:54 (6,580 days old) by sadose ()        

if i use rinse+ the water level is lower. the pics there are of the machine on extra short cottons wash with no rinse+. on this cycle it does just 2 rinses at that water level with a 1000 rpm spin between wash and first rinse and a 1200rpm spin between rinses 1 and 2.

Post# 121938 , Reply# 107   4/13/2006 at 05:06 (6,580 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
More pics of my Zanussi

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Hey Sadose, I enjoyed talking to you last night on msn, i had soem more pics of my zanussi washing which i hadn't downloaded to my pc, so heres some more

This pic is of my zanussi filling and tumbling for the synthetics high level rinse


Post# 121939 , Reply# 108   4/13/2006 at 05:07 (6,580 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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My zanussi Tumbling

Post# 121940 , Reply# 109   4/13/2006 at 05:10 (6,580 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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Zanussi Spinning 900rpm

Post# 121941 , Reply# 110   4/13/2006 at 05:19 (6,580 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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My Zanussi Control Panel

as you can see I like to wash dark coloureds at synthetics 40 with quick pressed in, mainly because i like the high level rinses and i find 1200 spins the clothes and leaves them creased out, also it is 56 minutes long so i can tolerate waiting for the wash to finish.

A cottons 60 wash on my zanussi is 2hrs 8 mins, if i'm up early i will sometimes put the wash on then go back to bed for a few hours lol, its good though, the whites come out impeccably clean. Pristine whites!! yay!! championship whites with ariel!!

If anybody wants to know what detergent i use, I use Ariel Colour & Style powder on whites and colours (its really good on whites, darren recommended it to me) with lenor spring/summer/stayfresh/pink the sleep sensations one smells awful if i might say lol

I have used the comfort creme softener and i thought it smelt like coffee, but it was nice though not something i would like to have on my clothes lol

Enjoy the pics

Kyle

P.S i may give Ariel Biological a try in the near future, i'll buy a big box of it so i can force my self to like the smell!! lol


Post# 121990 , Reply# 111   4/13/2006 at 09:29 (6,580 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Sadose!!! Welcome!!!

I would have welcomed you earlier, but I've been staying with Dan off this board (washboy2005) in Hartlepool sicne the weekend... seems the moment I stop checking the boards the postings flood in!! Great pictures of your Zanussi - I love those models and the equivalent AEG ones. Lover older Zanussi and AEG models too - I own an old AEG and it is absolutely great. Also have a 2004 model AEG, love that machine too although I am thinking of getting rid of it for one of the new Miele's, having second thoughts now though. The matching dryer, on the other hand, really does piss me off!!

I love old Hoovers too - I grew up with them. My nana had an A3060 Electronic 1100 from 1978 too, spent many of my childhood days sat in front of that!! There was one on Ebay a few days ago, but I tried looking for it now and it must have ended whilst I was away - otherwise I seriously would have bidded on that! (God knows where I'd put it though lol). I also grew up with a Hoover A3110 from 1980 for my first 8 years - was the same machine as Kyle described, and had exactly the same controls as the A3060 with the different spin buttons. (BTW, kyle, programme E with the half spin button pressed in was Minimum Iron - they still called this programme Minimum Iron until the Six range was introduced I think).

I have the privilege of living just round the corner from Darren, so I'm often round his having a little wash-in with his Hoovers and the Quartz - absolutely love them!! :-)

I agree about you with the Bosch - the one my mum has downstairs in the utility room washes & spins well, but the rinsing has a lot more left to be desired - fortunately I see the new Exxcel and Classixx models now all have the Aqua Plus button for extra rinse *and* deeper rinses, so hopefully their rinsing should have improved. It's to the extent that I can use biological washing powder of any brand in my Miele or AEG washers, but with the Bosch downstairs I can only use Persil as that is the only detergent that realyl does rinse out well (way better than Ariel), and is the only detergent that doesn't aggravate my sister's eczema or my dad's dermatitis. (Found that Persil seems to clean the best for me aswell in a powder, and smells much nicer, although you definitely can't beat Ariel when it comes to liquids).

I love that Siemens! They really are smart machines - although like Bosch they don't rinse very well, they definitely are well built workhorse machines. My Bosch is used at least 10 times a week and it sounds a bit dodgy because it has been bashed about by the builders when they were doing alterations to my house, but it seems to be behaving itself now and is again washing quietly.

Anyway, I'm starting to blabber... I have some videos of my old AEG on my putfile I can post right now, but don't have any other videos/pics up there at the moment. I have a few pics up on my webshots album though - community.webshots.com/user/aquar... - and have linked to my putfile below!!

Take care!!

Jon


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Post# 121991 , Reply# 112   4/13/2006 at 09:32 (6,580 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Kyle,

Nice photos!! Love your Zanussi, those pushbutton models are some of the best available on the market, tried and trusted too and I bet they'll be around for a few more years yet!

Jon


Post# 122182 , Reply# 113   4/14/2006 at 09:14 (6,579 days old) by fredriksam (Sweden)        

Hey newwave1 it would be nice with some more videos of the hoover machines. I have already seen the ones you have on your page. I really like to hear the sound from that logic you described. And a little more of the newwave machine, please.

Sadose: what other machine is heard on the videos? its not only the zanussi that is on.Would be fun seeing clips of the other machine too.


Post# 122192 , Reply# 114   4/14/2006 at 11:30 (6,579 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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hey Fredrik,
will do some more newwave videos over the weekend.

D


Post# 122193 , Reply# 115   4/14/2006 at 12:15 (6,579 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
More Pics of my Zanussi

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Hey guys, i did a load of whites this morning and i took some photos of my washer in action. I ended up doing two loads, a 90 degree cotton wash for dishclothes and teatowels, and a 60 degree synthetics wash for my bedsheets (these are pure white too)

Heres a caption of the first load on cottons 90 with quick and super-rinse, i use this because on a normal 90 wash without quick takes 2hrs 25 mins, but with quick and super-rinse pressed in the wash is shortened to 1hr 47 and u get 3 rinses but with a shorter wash phase


Post# 122194 , Reply# 116   4/14/2006 at 12:20 (6,579 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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Heres some more various pics of my zanussi tumbling with the whites

Post# 122195 , Reply# 117   4/14/2006 at 12:21 (6,579 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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and another

Post# 122196 , Reply# 118   4/14/2006 at 12:24 (6,579 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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another on the top up synthetics rinse when i did my bedsheets

Post# 122197 , Reply# 119   4/14/2006 at 12:26 (6,579 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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another in the wash

Post# 122198 , Reply# 120   4/14/2006 at 12:27 (6,579 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        

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Thats it for now, i have loads more i'm gonna post on to my photo album

Hope u like the pics guys

Kyle


Post# 122857 , Reply# 121   4/18/2006 at 04:04 (6,575 days old) by mrx ()        

I had to use a whirlpool (euro) recently and compared to my Miele at home it's ridiculous.

We've a pre-honeycomb miele and it manages to saturate the laundry completely within a very short time at the start of the wash. It seems to use a scoop system in the fins so water gets dumped over the clothes as the drum turns.

The whirlpool on the other hand has "bumps" rather than fins and seems to be totally ineffective at tumbling the laundry never mind saturating it.

Anyone else seen one of these whirlpools?

It's a lowish end washer-dryer.


Post# 122859 , Reply# 122   4/18/2006 at 04:14 (6,575 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Ahhh. That Whirlpool will be a Servis machine under the hood then, especially with what you describe with the paddles :-).

The actual European Whirlpool machines are quite good actually, especially for what they cost & what else is available on the market at the same cost.

Jon


Post# 122901 , Reply# 123   4/18/2006 at 12:15 (6,575 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Whirlpool eurgh!

Our last machine was a Whirlpool (servis made) washer dryer with the 4 baffles. Baffling it was too as how it could give a good wash action. It seemed to be a faster wash speed too!.
I was never impressed and as soon as the dryer unit failed once..... out came the cheque book and in came the AEG! Once you have one of these martha's, you don't go back to Whirlpool!!!


Post# 122979 , Reply# 124   4/18/2006 at 18:08 (6,575 days old) by mrx ()        

Yeah it rotates very rapidly and kinda bounces the clothes up and down. For some reason the sound is more like an agitator top loader than a front loader.

I'm not very impressed with the machine, however it was my landlady's choice, not mine..


Post# 122985 , Reply# 125   4/18/2006 at 18:22 (6,575 days old) by mrx ()        

Also, that service-whirlpool actually caused me to advise an aunt of mine not to buy a pricier whirlpool appliance. I just assumed they were all the same.

Post# 123173 , Reply# 126   4/19/2006 at 05:05 (6,574 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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there god aweful those merloni drums. everythin just waves across the bottom of the drum & it doesnt actually lift anything. you'd be better off handwashing than using one of those machines.

D


Post# 132147 , Reply# 127   5/31/2006 at 09:02 (6,532 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hi Guys

Just thought I would say hi as havent been on this sight for ages.Nice to see some English guys around aswell as the American ones.Decided to post on this thread as you are talking about Engish front loaders. We used to be collectors but now have kept only a few machines.I have have had many autos in the past eg Hotpoint Microtronic, Hotpoint 18580, Electra (Creda) sloping control panel,Many Hoover autos and some other makes.When I first lived on my own I had a Hoover softwave then changed to a Hoover Newwave 1400 then a Hotpoint Top loading automatic 9605 then a Servis slimline 1000, then a Miele (Gave that to my mum when her machine died)Then got my sisters old Hopoint Electronic 1000 plus 9530, then got my nans Hoover 5004 twinnie. I was never good at keeping a machine for long!!!!!!
Nice to see your Hoover logic and New wave and Servis, New wave.
We will be moving soon and so decided to leave a washer and dryer to help sell the house.We decided on Hoover as thats what we had most of. The washer was an Electron 1100 Energy control from 1985 but typically a few weeks back it packed up and so have replaced it with a new Candy machine.It was just a cheap machine but it washes really well. To get any decent results on rinsing you have to hit the "Super Rinse" button and this gives you 5 rinses with a spin inbetween each one plus a good water level.If you dont hit this you only get 2 crappy rinses.
We are taking only a few machines to the new house.
We are intending to buy a Whirlpool Top loader (Agitator type) for the new house and I will have that plus the Hoover Electronic 1100 plumbed in and also 2 dryers.
They are going to be in the garage and at last I can have a proper "Laundry Area!"

Regards
Mark


Post# 132176 , Reply# 128   5/31/2006 at 12:03 (6,532 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey mark,
would love to see some pics if you have them! sounds ahh a once fellow newwave owner....yours probably did 1400rpm then lol mine never hit 1300 having module problems. alas i no longer have it. i will find one at another point but for now im on a rampage to find an old zanussil. if i dont find one this week i may buy a zwf1621w i work @ comet & can get it cheaper. it just intregues me lol.

from one servis owner to another what did you think to your servis slimline? & y did you sell it!!!! lol.

good to hear from you.

Darren


Post# 132189 , Reply# 129   5/31/2006 at 12:47 (6,532 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Mark,

Are you the guy that was selling the A3060 on Ebay? That was my nana's first washing machine - and has gotta be my favourite Hoover washer of all time!!!

Jon


Post# 132225 , Reply# 130   5/31/2006 at 14:49 (6,532 days old) by bearpeter ()        
Zanussi Condenser dryer!

wish my zanussi condenser dryer was as good.
definitely Monday morning/friday night off the production line!!

It sqeaks intermittently, sometimes very loud and irritating! (just doesnt do it when the engineer is there) and when he was last here, he left the lid unhinged on one side! I have never been so disappointed with a machine even though it is excellent at drying!!!! I am now into the extended warranty but have really just given up on this machine. anyone got any ideas what to do? Zanussi were no help at all.


Post# 132335 , Reply# 131   6/1/2006 at 05:55 (6,531 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hi Darren

I do miss the newwave as it was a great machine and I loved all the led's and the programme number coming up in those green lights. If I remember, didnt it go into distribution speed a few times during the wash to force the water through the clothes?
I also thought the Servis slimline was great and I loved the square door and the fact that the drum didnt have the usual holes through it.It was very unusual to see a drum which was mainly solid stainless steel. It was also great that the spin between the rinses was at full speed! I only got rid of it because I didnt really understand how washing machines worked back then and I now know all it needed was new carbon brushes!!!It would struggle turning sometimes and sometimes not at all.I though the motor was knackered!
I have got rid of a few machines like that which needed brushes and I didnt understand.The saddest one I chucked was one of the first Hotpoint microtronics which had the sloping control panel..beautiful machine!

Hi Jon!
Yes it was me who was selling the A3060 on eBay. I already had one 3060 and came across another one so I decided to sell the first one.It went to a collector so was happy it would be looked after. It is also my favourite washer and had been searching for many years to get one.My friends mum had one and also another friend so i have always had fond memories of it. I love the square door and the timer sounds and the sound of the motor especially when it does that famous slow down from 800 then builds up to 1100.Its just a very stylish and fab machine! I was lucky enough to come across the matching dryer and so now have my favourite washer and dryer.

Hi Peter. I see your only down the road!
Sorry to read about your problems with your dryer.There is nothing worse in buying a new machine and finding out its crap.I have only owned one Zanussi appliance a few years ago and it was the studioline washing machine which was the compact one.It was a good machine but I sold it with my flat when I moved up to Scotland.My nan had a Zanussi washer/dryer which she got in 1987 when she moved house and that lasted 15 years.I dont even think it was broken.She said the programme dial was sticking but I think it just needed taking out and cleaned as I suspect there was lots of dirt in there from what I could see.I didnt get a chance to look at it as she just went and got a new machine (Hotpoint autowasher 1000.

Regards to you all

By the way I do have some pictures and some vids of various machines and im trying to get a sight where I can post them all as they are to big for here.I tried putfile but everytime I go to register it cant find the page and wont let me.Any other sights you recommend?

Mark


Post# 132342 , Reply# 132   6/1/2006 at 06:36 (6,531 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi Mark,

I have to say I was very tempted to bid on your A3060 on Ebay, but alas it was too far away :-(. Although I do have relatives in Dunbar who could have possibly stored it for me, hehehe. It's good the A3060 went to another collector anyhows; I suppose there could be nothing worse than a novice buying any old washing machine, especially a collectable like that, and putting it in student accommodation! My mum also had the later version of the A3060, the A3110 from 1982 - the Electronic 1100 - which was an updated version of the A3060, but had the standard 85x60cm casing, had the same door as the Logics and Electrons, & had a door release button on the control panel instead of the silver door catch as well as a half load button. Have many childhood memories of sitting in front of both my nana's A3060 and A3110. Although I was always very careful with my nana's A3060, after I cut my hand open on the edge of the stainless steel control panel which was slightly prising off at the edges. She only replaced it because she won a WM25 almost 10 years ago now - if not nana said she'd probably still have her Hoover today! Unfortunately she has an even worse washer now than the WM25, one of those dreaded new Hotpoint's which is more or less a British made Ariston!

I always remember the timer sounds on my nana's and my mum's Hoovers - was always one click at the end of each tumble and two clicks before each tumble if I remember correctly? Also remember the great "ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh" spin sound - absolute classic. The A3060 twinned with the smell Persil non bio Microsystem as my nana used to use back then coming from the washer have to be some of my best and fondest washer memories.

What other machines do you have? Personally I have a Miele W2652WPS (the best machine I've ever used), AEG Lavamat 86741 and matching Lavatherm 57560 dryer, a 1984 AEG Lavamat 660, those are all in my bedroom and my mum has in the utility room a dead Bosch washer, and a matching Bosch dryer which is great. Talking of the dead Bosch washer, we're actually going to Curry's this afternoon to check new machines out :-), and to bring this thread back to subject both I and my mum are really interested in the ZWF1437, which is the pushbutton version of Saj's Zanussi earlier in the thread.

Do you have MSN messenger at all? Most of us Brit members are all on there, often have 3 or 4 way chats :-). And in terms of videos - youtube is supposed to be a good site to upload to. But I've had problems with putfile too lately - sometimes you just have to be really patient. If you have pictures, Webshots - www.webshots.com..., is what I find the best picture hosting site. Hope that helps!

Take care of yourself, nice to see another Brit member :-).

All the best,

Jon


Post# 132345 , Reply# 133   6/1/2006 at 06:39 (6,531 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Early Hotpoint Microtronic

Almost forgot...

My auntie also had one of the early Hotpoint Microtronics - had the liberator style casing, a sloped control panel & brown trims, and an 800rpm spin I think - or perhaps 1000. Quite similar control panel layout to the Servis Quartz machines, but had the LCD display with programmes 1-9 in the centre of the control panel with buttons either side, and had Economy options such as Reduced Rinses and Bio and whatnot. Great machine - unfortunately that also got replaced in 2000 I think with a Hotpoint WM62.

This talk of Hoover's makes me want my A3110 back :-(... but a Hotpoint toploader would be nice too :-).

Jon


Post# 132356 , Reply# 134   6/1/2006 at 07:47 (6,531 days old) by hoover3060 ()        

Hi Jon

I also had a A3110! But alas the outer drum and sump bit was just to rusty for repair.When I got it the pump wasent working because it was full of rust which had broken away from the drum.Im guessing whoever had it never left the door open after it had finished to dry it out.It had a black control panel and the half load button was orange and the programme selector dial had an orange trim round it. I wasent to keen when Hoover stopped the proud square door and went onto the flush one.The 3060 I have is dated Dec 79 and the 3110 I had was dated Jan 80 believe it or not so the 3060 is one of the last produced.The clicks on the timer of the 3060 are definately noticable but I cant remember the excact sequence as havent had the 3060 on for a while as its been put back into the garage for when we move.

I do like to hear a washer working with all its clicks etc and the sound of the motor.Never like machines with induction motors as they were just to quiet!I like sitting in the living room and being able to hear the washing machine going.The new candy we had to get to sell with the house does actually have a good motor sound because it has brushes.When its had a few loads in it the sound seems to get louder.Maybe something to do with the motor being hot im not sure.Older Hotpoints also have a great motor sound which you cant mistake. I had another microtronic from the 1980s which I loved but the control panel all fell to pieces as it got very brittle.You never see one of the older Hotpoints on eBay without some of the trim broken as the plastic they used would go so brittle over age.

I dont have many machines now as we had to reduce our collection drastically for the move.There are now 4 Twin tubs,The 3060,The 6042 dryer to match and an Electron energy control dryer which im also taking with me.The electron dryer is very good for delicates as the low temp is a very low temp so great for drying jumpers.Am hoping to get a Whirlpool Agitator type top loader for the new house.

I do have Msn by the way so chats would be great!

Thanks for the info on the site for my pics and vids...I will investigate!

Mark


Post# 132511 , Reply# 135   6/1/2006 at 18:14 (6,531 days old) by sadose ()        
Ohhhh

I grew up with an A3060 which had to go in 1993 when it developed a nasty leak. Long history of machines since then as you all know. And the Zanussi has broken down for the first time today, 7 months down the line...albeit with a lot of heavy abuse!

Post# 132795 , Reply# 136   6/2/2006 at 22:49 (6,529 days old) by kenmorepeter5ab ()        
Any more video(s)?

Hello Mike, how are you doing?

Hello...I am deaf and best friend! My name is Peter. Can you make the video about Lavamat (frontload washer) of the "LINEN" by spinning by 1800 rpm? I want to watch the video for wash, first spinning, rinse, and final spinning (1800)activity.....is that OK with you?

-- Peter (kenmorepeter5aa) ;-D


Post# 132874 , Reply# 137   6/3/2006 at 05:47 (6,529 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Whats happened to ur zanussi saj? aint seen u online to ask! lol


Post# 133466 , Reply# 138   6/5/2006 at 18:20 (6,527 days old) by sadose ()        
Ooooh the leccy!!

Hi Darren!

Not seen u online either! Anyhoo! Turns out the zanussi developed a problem where the power lead goes into the module which caused the machine to trip the whole house's electrics whenever it went on rinse. All sorted now, they came and put a new flex on it! I'm in my new house and now the proud owner of a Hoover Nextra! Hmmmm we shall see!


Post# 137039 , Reply# 139   6/21/2006 at 10:34 (6,511 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Zanussi-Electrolux ZWF1217W

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Hey Guys

I have the above and its fantastic- just short of 2 years old and no problems so far :). It cost me just short of £190(work for a Euronics dealer so got it at cost :-). The noisest thing on it its the pump!.
Whoever asked the age of a s218T it would be very early 80s and they were indeed incredibly quiet- basically on a wash all the sound came from the water !!. This machine was also one of the Zanussi "Washcraft" models.
And just in case you didnt know Zanussi-Electrolux have recently started using The Appliance Of Science as their tag line again after 20 odd years!!!

Seamus



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