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Thread Number: 58858
/ Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
New-to-me 1969 40" GE P-7 range! |
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Post# 814395 3/17/2015 at 05:49 (3,326 days old) by robinsondm  (Upstate NY) |
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Hi all,
Some of you know that I have a 1966 40" GE P-7 range. Well, I decided to "upgrade", and I bought a new range! Don't worry, it's still vintage. :) It's a 1969 J487 40" GE P-7 range. I wanted to upgrade for the window on the main oven door, though I also like the infinite (rotary) heat controls for the burners. After some tinkering, everything on the new range works, though I did have to replace the Sensi-Temp burner sensor. Unfortunately, the range came with no accessories. :( I've found a griddle and broil pan, but I'm still looking for a rotisserie and meat thermometer. If anyone has leads on finding those (besides eBay, which I'm searching) please let me know. The new range has knobs that are prone to UV fading, so I'm slowly replacing the knobs with more readable ones, as I find them. Thanks to Sandy, I may have a buyer for my "old" (1966) range. Stay tuned. :) In the meantime, here's a picture of the "new" range. It still needs more cleaning -- and I want to polish the chrome -- but I think it's looking pretty good. Dean
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| Post# 814396 , Reply# 1 3/17/2015 at 05:59 (3,326 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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| Post# 814402 , Reply# 2 3/17/2015 at 06:42 (3,326 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania ) | ||
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Post# 814436 , Reply# 4 3/17/2015 at 10:06 (3,326 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis) |
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Beautiful Stove Dean! | ||
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Post# 814464 , Reply# 5 3/17/2015 at 12:07 (3,326 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Hubba Hubba! | ||
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Post# 814563 , Reply# 6 3/18/2015 at 05:10 (3,325 days old) by robinsondm (Upstate NY) |
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Buttons vs. knobs
Regarding buttons vs. knobs, I can see advantages to each. The buttons on my 1966 range made for a clean-looking control panel, and I liked the positive tactile feedback of clicking into a setting. Still, there were times when I wished for an intermediate temperature setting -- usually between Hi and the next-highest setting -- and only the Sensi-Temp burner offered that option. My wife definitely prefers knobs, so she is pleased with the new range.
What I will really miss from the 1966 range are the shiny yet readable metal knobs (the old range used knobs, of course, for the oven settings). The new range has metal knobs with white text on a brown background. But over time, the brown on many of the knobs faded to a light tan, making the text very hard to read. I replaced some of the knobs with newer plastic ones, and while they're easy to read and look nice, they lack the premium "feel" of a metal knob. Counting from left to right in the photo of my new (1969) range, knobs 1, 3, and 8 are replacements. This post was last edited 03/18/2015 at 06:39 | ||
| Post# 814583 , Reply# 7 3/18/2015 at 09:24 (3,325 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
You will love cooking on that range...
imo the J487 is one of, if not THE, the finest all around 40" ranges ever made! I have essentially the same oven in the 1969 double oven version JK-29, my folks had one too, the finest baking oven I've ever used, only matched by an electric Chambers, and quality of construction is still there, only to be gradually lost over the decades to follow... enjoy!
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Post# 846885 , Reply# 11 10/21/2015 at 05:51 (3,108 days old) by robinsondm (Upstate NY) |
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Hi Tom,
Sorry I didn't see your messages earlier! I just logged onto AW.org for the first time in over a month. First, congratulations on your "new" range! I'm glad you were able to get replacement knobs for it -- and your clock knobs look the same as mine. Since my first post, I've found replacements for most of the original stove & burner knobs. Unfortunately, one of my new knobs -- the on/off knob for the left oven -- is plastic, rather than metal. :( And, like you, I'm still looking for a replacement for the P7 oven temperature knob -- i.e., one showing the allowable temperature range for "rotisserie". As for the year of your range, it looks just like mine -- i.e., 1969. Can you post the serial number so I can check it against mine? As I recall, the 1968 model still had pushbuttons (not knobs) and the 1970 model may have three clock knobs, rather than four. Knowing your serial number should settle the question. For that matter, in the 1960s, GE used model numbers that changed each year, so I could probably determine your stove's year from the model number alone. I'll go look at your post in my other thread. Congratulations again. Dean This post was last edited 10/21/2015 at 06:11 | ||
| Post# 847015 , Reply# 13 10/22/2015 at 00:27 (3,107 days old) by soggytom () | ||
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BTW, Thanks for all the help here! Here's a photo of the clock showing the stem I need. Photo was when first delivered, so no cleaning yet. Don't judge me. | ||
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Post# 847033 , Reply# 14 10/22/2015 at 05:38 (3,107 days old) by robinsondm (Upstate NY) |
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Hi Tom,
Your stove was made in December (Z) of 1970 (L). So it's one year newer than mine. You may have seen this link already, but I'll repost just in case: products.geappliances.com/applian... Sorry, I missed the fact that you had a broken clock stem. I assume it's broken near where it would exit the front glass, since the orange clock hands are still attached. I have an extra GE stove clock -- NOT the same model as yours or my 1969 one -- that MIGHT use the same stem. However, your stem will have a gear attached to it, and it passes through the front and back plates of the clock gearbox. I'll have to look at how the stem is attached to the gearbox on my extra clock, to see if it's easy to remove. If it is, then we'd have to hope that your stem is similarly easy to remove, and that the gears -- if directly attached to the stem -- are identical. A mechanically easier, but more expensive, alternative would be to buy a replacement clock on eBay. But that wouldn't be cheap -- probably at least $90 -- and you'd need to be absolutely sure it was the same clock (either by matching model numbers, or ensuring that the replacement clock has the same number and placement of wire attachment terminals in back). On the Sensi-Temp burner, have you been testing it with a pan that has a flat, relatively thick, bottom? (An aluminum pan is generally good.) If the bottom of the pan curves upward away from the sensor, you won't get good results. Assuming your Sensi-Temp is indeed broken, it's highly likely that the sensor is the problem. You can occasionally find new old stock sensors on eBay -- part number WB21X5207. But again, it won't be cheap. They usually sell for well over $100. While it might be possible to repair the sensor, I've never tried that. I've only replaced it. I'll keep an eye on eBay for a metal left oven on/off dial. I think you got lucky to get a WB3X370, because I'm pretty sure the WB3X444 is the plastic one I have. Dean | ||
| Post# 853323 , Reply# 18 11/23/2015 at 17:36 (3,075 days old) by soggytom () | ||
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Did you buy the second knob? Someone did! | ||
| Post# 875361 , Reply# 23 4/2/2016 at 17:24 (2,944 days old) by l_c () | ||
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GE J487, 1971 double range single owner FS (CA SF Bay Area) IT HAS BEEN SOLD. GE J487, 1971 double range single owner FS (CA SF Bay Area) Thanks ... Larry | ||
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Post# 1093532 , Reply# 25 10/17/2020 at 16:02 (1,285 days old) by robinsondm (Upstate NY) |
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Hi ONEWEST601,
For several reasons, I've been off this site for about five years. But, I'm back! And I just read your post. Do you still need part numbers for the meat thermometer and rotisserie spit? I'm guessing your range is somewhat newer than 1965, mainly because it has only knobs -- no pushbuttons. But we can settle the question if you find the serial number: look on the vertical divider between the two storage drawers. To find the correct part numbers, we need the complete model number, also located on the tag between the storage drawers. It's probably something like J487xyWH, where "x" is a capital letter and "y" is a number. For example, my 1969 range is a J487E1WH. As you can probably guess, the "WH" just means "white". Dean This post was last edited 10/17/2020 at 16:51 | ||
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