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Thread Number: 59029
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Whirlpool American Top Loader |
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| Post# 815898 3/26/2015 at 10:51 (3,313 days old) by Paulinroyton (B) | ||
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My latest finds 
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| Post# 815899 , Reply# 1 3/26/2015 at 10:51 (3,313 days old) by Paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Machine 1 Don't think ever been used 
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| Post# 815900 , Reply# 2 3/26/2015 at 10:57 (3,313 days old) by Paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Tub Shot Tub Shot 
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| Post# 815901 , Reply# 3 3/26/2015 at 10:58 (3,313 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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| Post# 815904 , Reply# 4 3/26/2015 at 11:28 (3,312 days old) by Paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Cool The machine with the blue protective cover on had a sealed bag with instructions and warranty. Still had the shipping brackets in place. Going to hook them up over weekend. | ||
| Post# 815919 , Reply# 5 3/26/2015 at 13:51 (3,312 days old) by Paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Shipping Brackets I have removed the shipping brackets, a long yellow strip with pins, however, there is a plastic piece, photo shows this, do I have to remove this. Thanks. Paul 
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Post# 815920 , Reply# 6 3/26/2015 at 13:58 (3,312 days old) by Yogitunes  (New Jersey) |
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NO....don't remove that, it keeps the back secured to the base for if you ever take off the body for service....
just make sure as you pulled out that strip, that 3 clips came with it, if not, one is still stuck inside......I usually tilt the machine and pull the plastic holders and those slugs, just reduces the chance of vibrations from them....some fall out as you pull that strap out... these machines are colorful, yet are sort of "washing for dummies", matching the water temps to the wash cycle....dryer is the same..... still, very rugged machines..... | ||
| Post# 815941 , Reply# 8 3/26/2015 at 15:50 (3,312 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 815944 , Reply# 9 3/26/2015 at 16:12 (3,312 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 815963 , Reply# 10 3/26/2015 at 17:36 (3,312 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
Yes, those Ultimate care are very popular machines, I see lots of them popping out here as well....
Me I'm not a fan of those agitators lay outs nor the short fast strokes these (like pretty much all "modern" BD and DD) machines features, if I had to go with short fast strokes at least I'd get the whirlpool straight vane which seems looot more effective.... I don't see these machines doing a good job *by themselves*...they need help. This post was last edited 03/26/2015 at 18:23 | ||
| Post# 815989 , Reply# 12 3/26/2015 at 20:19 (3,312 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
for the original poster 
congratulation on your find but please note that these washers are hot and cold fill but they are good if you need to soak something all night you can always keep it use it if you have stuff you need to soak all night in a hot water bleach solution and then wash as usal in your regular washer but top loads washers are good cleaner when you know how to load it properly
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Post# 815995 , Reply# 14 3/26/2015 at 21:08 (3,312 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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@kenmoreguy89
Not sure where you are coming from but those WP machines have one of THE BEST AGITATORS EVER! That Xtra roll action plus will turn over a load 3X faster than any str8 vane. Not sure what help you think the best TL design EVER needs but you are mistaken.
Don't mean to be a jackass but these machines DO NOT need help. WK78 | ||
| Post# 816014 , Reply# 15 3/26/2015 at 23:12 (3,312 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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| Post# 816026 , Reply# 17 3/27/2015 at 02:43 (3,312 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Nick...
I don't like them...I'd get a old WP wig-wag Surgilator any day over one of those, they need help either with pretreating exremely soiled or you need to manually lenghten cycle. "Best Top loader design"....please... If nothing they're opinions... This post was last edited 03/27/2015 at 07:35 | ||
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Post# 816053 , Reply# 18 3/27/2015 at 09:30 (3,312 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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try out a few loads, cycles.....and JUDGE for yourself....likes/dislikes....and maybe get a chance to swap out for a few different types of agitators for different wash actions.....
I have a KitchenAid large base in mine, at FULL speed...yet to see fabric damage your mileage will vary from others.....who knows, you may find it to be one of the better machines you have used in a while.....if its a machine you like, who cares what others think... my best advice for any machine, talk to a service tech/mechanic...THEY know the good and bad of any given machine/appliance.... a great majority of appliance displeasure usually stems from user error, always easier to blame the machine.... ie: clothing damage from bleach used on a dark load.....I'd pay to see a machine that could pick up that bleach and chug the whole bottle!...but its the machines fault, RIGHT? keep us posted | ||
| Post# 816068 , Reply# 20 3/27/2015 at 11:56 (3,311 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Persil Persil twin tub 
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| Post# 816082 , Reply# 21 3/27/2015 at 14:01 (3,311 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Yogi...
Whoever use LCB for a dark load is to put in an asylum in the first place , not just forbid him/her to do laundry. That's a thing even kids knows... LOL This post was last edited 03/27/2015 at 14:44 | ||
| Post# 816085 , Reply# 22 3/27/2015 at 14:10 (3,311 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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In many counties in europe you can find High sudsing powders sold as handwash powders, in the UK twin tubs were (and still are to some extent) more popular and lasted longer on the market and you can still find powders who state being for twin tubs also...
Over here Ariel like others just state "handwash" as twin tubs were and unfortunately are not much popular, but it's the exact same thing. I like how handwash/high sudsing perform, and I love sudsy washes and suds (even though some says it doesnt make a difference I usually find high sudsing stuff to clean slightly better in a toploader/agitator machine...go figure..).. handwash powders while they froth much they also often rinse faster... I mean rinse water clears faster rinse vs many "automatic" low suds powders.... | ||
| Post# 816098 , Reply# 23 3/27/2015 at 15:58 (3,311 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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For a machine like this, and for any top-loading agitator washer, old or new, my best piece of advice is to let the machine start washing for a few minutes, then pause the machine and allow it to soak for 20-30 minutes, then resume the cycle, when you have time to do so of course. I always set a timer on my phone or on the microwave. My WTW4800 has longer main wash time than typical full fill agitator machines, but I still see a night and day difference between just a standard wash and when I can add a soak period in. With modern detergents, it's best to allow them time to break the soils loose just as an HE machine does.
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Post# 816233 , Reply# 25 3/28/2015 at 09:40 (3,311 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Glad your finding some interesting results.....keep exploring.....
side tracks when we forget that the Whirlpool versions do this 'step down' agitation for a Normal/Regular cycle, some offer a 'heavy duty' in which its high speed the whole time....just a variable of cycle options and how it handles things for different models...its mainly designed for fast agitation at the start to flex the clothes, and then the gentle to allow the detergent to work on the stains and hold in suspension until the drain....odd, but effective seen some with the SuperWash, wash for about 6 minutes, do a soak and partial drain, refill and continue into the normal cycle.......others just do a Soak and continue on, seems like no two are alike...as you go on, you will discover what each cycle of your model actually does... curious if the other machine operates the same way.....what exactly is missing from that one, I know your considering it for a spare parts machine, but at the same time, could be a full spare, ready for service, just a thought..... dryer seemed a bit higher on the line compared to the washer....expected the same amount of buttons, or what I call a one dial wonder, the timer has the temps and push to start built in.....if anything, just give it a good cleanout inside, and some lube on the rollers, and you should be good to go.... I think you did good with this set.....I like using the spinners as well, just to see how much more water can be extracted.... | ||
| Post# 816234 , Reply# 26 3/28/2015 at 09:51 (3,311 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
I had a similar WP TL washer | ||
| Post# 816238 , Reply# 28 3/28/2015 at 10:20 (3,311 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Laundry Room The laundry room 
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Post# 816243 , Reply# 29 3/28/2015 at 10:51 (3,311 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Seeing your Miele dryer... I just started to miss our T7644C again... | ||
| Post# 816295 , Reply# 30 3/28/2015 at 18:04 (3,310 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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transmission gear ratio different for 50HZ export machines? wonder if whirlpool uses a different transmission ratio for 50hz machines or if they operate a little slower than North American 60hz machines. | ||
| Post# 816307 , Reply# 31 3/28/2015 at 18:31 (3,310 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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I know of many machines 60hz here privately imported from US yet I still have to see a noticeable and meaningful difference in speeds..so are all my 120 60hz appliances, blenders, mixers and so forth.
Anyway the models you find imported and sold in dealers, not privately imported, do have 220 volt 50hz motors... In US you can also buy/order 50hz models in some places, IIRC SamStore is one for example ...my GE also was ordered from US back in 1994. Whirlpool, GE and pretty much all of the manufacturers do have markets also in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India and of course South America where you do find 240-230-220 volt and 50hz voltage, it so for all of the India, Australia, NZ and S.A and in some of countries and areas of South America, not all... So they also manufacture 220 volt 50 hz parts for these markets.. In any ways I can say that even if the motor was slightly slower that would be balanced by a longer wash time, since the timer also would go slower being likely a sync motor, but again, I actually couldn't see any meaningful difference in 60hz machines used with 50hz frequency here... This post was last edited 03/28/2015 at 19:34 | ||
| Post# 816392 , Reply# 33 3/29/2015 at 08:12 (3,310 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Polyroyton | ||
| Post# 817405 , Reply# 36 4/4/2015 at 05:58 (3,304 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
That's a jammy find, pleased you're enjoying it. Back in the day we sold a LOT of these to large families and local businesses, such as B&Bs and restaurants. They just keep on going, and on the rare occasion something does go wrong, they're incredibly easy to service. Lots of servicing info out there on the web if you want to go DIY.
With a good supply of hot water (a combi boiler is ideal for these), the lack of heater is nothing to worry about, and these machines clean perfectly well. For really stained laundry, just stop the machine a few minutes into the wash cycle, soak for as long as you wish, and then continue where you left off afterwards. Amazon UK stock both Tide and Tide with Bleach powders at a reasonable cost, which I've linked below. Twin tub powders are getting to be slim pickings these days, and it's always nice to have other options. CLICK HERE TO GO TO spiraclean's LINK | ||
| Post# 817415 , Reply# 37 4/4/2015 at 08:00 (3,304 days old) by Paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Spiraclean Hi . Yes very pleased with machine. Asda stock Persil twin tub powder which I like very much. Thanks for the link on Tide, will study that in more detail later. Cheers. | ||
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Post# 817433 , Reply# 38 4/4/2015 at 10:48 (3,304 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 817474 , Reply# 40 4/4/2015 at 16:49 (3,303 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Yes.....They may not be the best washing/ design of toploader in the history, but they sure will get clothes clean, as you know I have always found top loaders to clean better than any other machine, these Ultimate care and Short fast strokes machines just need some help than other models to reach their same level, but still good machines! As for powders, I don't think you need vanish with Persil TT powder as it should have percarbonate in it alredy... I have recently bought a very large order (like 50kg... much of the purchase history you see it's me) of OMO powder through ebay it was located in the UK, it is Vietnamese and High sudsing, it doesn't have an ingredient list weirdly, though it seems to have enzymes and bleaches and perhaps it has phosphates as I didn't see the typical precipitation in the sink, it cleans wonderfully and has a nice smell, I suggest you to buy some because it's a very good powder, otherwise I wouldn't have bought so much (actually i gotta stop do that....as I could go on for years with my stash but can't help to...LOL) | ||
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