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Post# 816976   4/1/2015 at 19:24 (3,284 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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I received a call today from Whirlpool's Executive Office. They've agreed to send a full replacement of the machine!!! I was so excited I nearly fell to the floor. He's going to do his best to locate an MVWB725 in inventory, but because they have just been discontinued, I may be choosing a different machine equivalent in MSRP. I also have the option to upgrade and pay the difference, which opens up a whole world of decisions now.

 

He told me that what the Whirlpool and Maytag websites list will be current machines that he can definitely order, so as of this moment, the upgraded MVWB880 is my first choice, as it's the only Oasis machine left besides the Cabrio Platinum that has a much heftier pricetag. It has the slightly taller wash basket, and modified tub ring (which may improve the spray pattern of the recirculation), and has a few more cycles. It does have an allergen cycle, but I'm not for sure if it actually has a heater built in. If it doesn't, I'm not concerned honestly. If it turns out that I can no longer get an Oasis machine at all, I may be left to choose a new Cabrio, and so far the two that I'd consider would be the WTW8040 or 8000. I'm trying to do research to see which ones, if either, are the VMW platform or rotor/stator machines, and which ones have steam. On the website it's difficult to tell which has what.





Post# 816981 , Reply# 1   4/1/2015 at 19:46 (3,284 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Glad to hear you got your issue resolved. Hope the next unit doesn't have the same problem.

Post# 817041 , Reply# 2   4/2/2015 at 05:33 (3,283 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

I am so happy for you. See how things go when you jump to the top of the feeding chain. They don't want problems or bad reviews. Happy washing days are ahead for you. Congratulations on your endeavor. I don't care how big a company is, you can always find who is running it.

Jon


Post# 817047 , Reply# 3   4/2/2015 at 05:59 (3,283 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Finally!

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As far as the washers you have listed in your post: neither have a heater or use the belt-drive design.

Post# 817052 , Reply# 4   4/2/2015 at 07:11 (3,283 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)        

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My local rdc shows 0 in stock of the mvwb725, but there is a box to check "the factory." There appears to be over 900 in stock there.

Post# 819106 , Reply# 5   4/13/2015 at 14:52 (3,272 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        
It is here!!!!!

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Just got done getting the laundry room put back together!!! This thing is gorgeous. It's like the 725's sexier sister (or brother). The tub definitely looks much deeper, and the recirculation spray is perfect!! I was so worried about it, but it fans out perfectly and runs along the tub ring, so everything should have no problem getting soaked. I painstakingly took over an hour leveling it so that there is no wobble whatsoever, and the tub is centered perfectly below the cabinet opening. As I type this, it's running its maiden voyage in the form of a clean cycle with an affresh tablet, to get the majority of that weird sulfur-like "new" smell out, and also to let any conditioners that may be in the affresh to coat the exposed parts of the drive system so that maybe it will reduce the possibility of detergent causing any trouble (mainly because I'm super paranoid that this one is going to do something weird, so I'm taking every precaution I can.)

I'll have to catch some video clips when I get a chance. I'm excited to try out the new Towels cycle to see what it does differently.


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Post# 819107 , Reply# 6   4/13/2015 at 15:05 (3,272 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
725s sexier twin

I just love that expression xD
But really glad you are finally happy with your machine again and that you will have luck with it. I just say you'll have luck, so you only can have luck. ;D


Post# 819110 , Reply# 7   4/13/2015 at 15:43 (3,272 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I am happy for you! Good luck with your new machine!

Post# 819150 , Reply# 8   4/13/2015 at 19:57 (3,272 days old) by Gusherb (Chicago/NWI)        

Nice! Glad to see Whirlpool did the right thing here.
Can't wait to hear/see more!


Post# 819155 , Reply# 9   4/13/2015 at 20:33 (3,272 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Good luck!

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as others have stated, glad to hear you're happy with the replacement machine.

Here's hoping you have much better luck with this machine.

Cheers
Leon


Post# 819173 , Reply# 10   4/13/2015 at 23:31 (3,272 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I must have missed the post where you were having trouble with your other machine. It looks great and glad WP did what they did. I notice you don't have it plugged into a surge protector. PLEASE do so because you never know how sensitive the electronics are in these machines. :D

Post# 823229 , Reply# 11   5/13/2015 at 11:18 (3,242 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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So I guess you're happy with the new model? I like the Catalyst action; adding warm water little by little to pretreat stains prior to the hot main wash.









Post# 823232 , Reply# 12   5/13/2015 at 11:28 (3,242 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Most definitely!!! It feels like a completely different machine because it sounds beautiful. Hasn't set a toe out of line since getting it!! And I'm loving that redesigned outer tub ring on this one, because it causes the recirculation spray to fan directly down onto the top ring of the basket, and it deflects over and out like in the video. Not even clothes up at the very top of the basket get missed. Plus its quieter than the other one in general, not counting the horrid knocking and screeching, because it has that riser pedestal on the bottom that seems to contain some of the white noise.

Post# 823361 , Reply# 13   5/14/2015 at 08:46 (3,241 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I can't say enough good things about my Kenmore version either. I'm so happy with it. Lots of fun to watch too :)

Post# 823375 , Reply# 14   5/14/2015 at 10:58 (3,241 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Also, I didn't realize I had never really posted much of an update. This past month has been crazy with the boyfriend coming back from Australia and then the mother-in-law getting married right after. Then getting the new car! Time has flown by haha. But yes, I've kept a good ear out for it, but this new machine hasn't made a peep out of line whatsoever. I've been so impressed with it so far, and I'm loving the taller tub and the added options on it. That metallic grey top is sexy as well. It feels so odd standing in front of the "normal" washers in my family because of being so used to this gigantic beast haha. I look inside them and think "how in the world does this thing hold clothes? The basket looks like the inside of a sippy cup!" Lol. It's funny how what was "super capacity" back 10-15 years ago is now tiny in comparison to these new canyon machines. What I love is that in contrast to most of the 5.0+ cu.ft washers on the market right now, this one can actually handle a load filled to the top of the basket. It takes so much longer to accumulate enough clothes to warrant doing a wash!

Post# 823377 , Reply# 15   5/14/2015 at 11:17 (3,241 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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hahaha, yes regular washers seem so small compared. I still have my Hydrowave sitting in my office and there's def a difference in it's stance.

Being single I don't accumulate enough clothes either to fill the whole thing. Closest I come is when i wash my bedding. I separate my clothes out by color but if I just threw them all in, it would fill it quite a bit. Largest load of clothes is my darks.

I'm doing laundry right now and I washed my work dress shirts not even 2 hours ago. Hung them up and they are almost ready to be put away. The fast spin speed is a huge time saver.

I LOVE my Kenmore :-)


Post# 823711 , Reply# 16   5/16/2015 at 10:24 (3,239 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Andrew

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Don't post videos on your YouTube without posting them here as well! 😉





Post# 823735 , Reply# 17   5/16/2015 at 13:26 (3,239 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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I was getting to it!!! Haha. It actually posted officially overnight because it took over 3 hours to process. I got an email at around 4am saying it was live. I'll give details as soon as I'm back home on the computer. :)

Post# 823739 , Reply# 18   5/16/2015 at 14:04 (3,239 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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OKAY! So. I didn't get a tripod just yet, but I did fashion a makeshift camera setup consisting of a dining chair, a cardboard box, blue painter's tape, and my HTC One M8. I've gotten requests for full cycles so I figured I'd do one with heavy items like jeans and hoodies since those types of loads are the more "challenging" for an HE top loader. This load, if I recall correctly, was two pairs of jeans, two or three pairs of sweatpants, two hoodies, and a pair of dark shorts. It only fills this basket about half full, but it measured up to be a fairly stuffed load in the WTW4800 with its 3.6 cu.ft. basket, reaching up to the balance ring. I used just under the "Line 1" on the scoop of Gain Original, and just enough Downy fabric softener to coat the bottom of the cap.

Recording the length of the entire cycle proved a challenge because around the hour mark, my phone started yelling about low storage. 1080p video is a hard drive guzzler!! I had to restart it a few times and finally at the final spin I had to delete my 10GB Spotify library just to fit the last few minutes of spin, so at that point I just held the camera by hand. The only part missed in the video was the first part of the spray rinse, which can be filled in by imagination because I caught the last few minutes of it. In my opinion, the spray rinse on the newer Oasis-Bravos is more of a "purge" that soaks the clothes and allows the water to fall through, and it clears any soapy water out of the sump, but it seems to be effective when paired with an agitated deep rinse. Notice no bubbles and fairly clear water in the rinse?!

I love this washer to death. It really has changed my outlook on "new". It behaves so differently than what one would be used to with a standard agitator washer, but it also didn't take too much adjustment on my part. It's so intuitive to load and operate that now it just feels natural.

And also, notice no screeching and popping and knocking like Keebler elves in their shop?!?! Only the awesome sound of that SmartDrive motor. :)


Post# 823748 , Reply# 19   5/16/2015 at 15:40 (3,239 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Does this

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actually have a cycle that fills the entire tub with water? Just curious because it seems like I remember seeing a GE Harmony video and the tub was entirely full of water, and the clothes were swirling around like crazy...I've wanted to see what bulky items cycle looks like on these but I can't find any vids....I think most of the vids I see are normal, heavy duty, or whitest whites.

Post# 823755 , Reply# 20   5/16/2015 at 16:13 (3,239 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Here are few videos of the Vantage using various deep-water cycles:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK


Post# 823757 , Reply# 21   5/16/2015 at 16:45 (3,239 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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It does. The Bulky cycle fills to around 3/4 of the tub. HOWEVER, it doesn't do a very good job with anything that isn't a large comforter or quilt. Because of the almost 3.5 rotations it does each direction during the agitation, with no smaller strokes at the end to even the load out, it usually thrashes and balls everything up so that its flopped to one side, which makes for a very violent and potentially dangerous spin when it's trying to determine the balance. Plus, there's so much water that I feel the detergent gets too diluted, as well as just being wasteful. The amount of water used to fill this tub once is enough to fill a 3.6 cu.ft Direct Drive or VMW washer twice.

I will try to run a full load of clothes using the Bulky cycle, but I'll have to reconstruct my camera "stand" and find the time to hover nearby in case I need to intervene before the spins.

It's funny, at first I thought I would be disappointed with the Bulky cycle working that way, and not having a Deep Water option, but because of how well it performs just on the Normal cycle itself, I wouldn't want to use any more water. So far I use the PowerWash or Heavy Duty cycles for towels because the hot water isn't tempered down, the Whites cycle for whites of course, and Normal for everything else since I wouldn't use warm water for colors and darks anyway.


Post# 823775 , Reply# 22   5/16/2015 at 20:00 (3,239 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Have any of you seen this?

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This is of a Whirlpool Cabrio trying to wash a king sized comforter and he uses deep water option and there are four parts to the video. This is TERRIBLE and it can't move the comforter at all, and the tub is FILLED with water...I wonder if the Maytag's use a different impeller?



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Post# 823778 , Reply# 23   5/16/2015 at 20:10 (3,239 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Andrew

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I trust your judgment. But look at that video I posted of the Cabrio. What do you think?

Post# 823780 , Reply# 24   5/16/2015 at 20:45 (3,239 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        
Kinda ify

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I've yet to wash my queen size comforter in my Kenmore 28102, but I did wash pillows and 3 queen size blankets. The pillows just kind of rolled around. What saved it was the recirculating spray and prewash. Both allow for good drenching of the soapy water over the load. The blankets did ok actually, though the rollover was fairly slow. But all items came out very clean so goes to prove that you don't need a ton of agitation (or any in some cases) to get items clean.

My machine does not have an actual "Bulky" cycle. It has a Sheets and then Deep Wash. I used the Deep Wash for the blankets and pillows. Oddly the cycle descriptions mention nothing about washing comforters. So I had to take a chance.


Post# 823791 , Reply# 25   5/16/2015 at 21:32 (3,239 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

I don't mean to be a smart ass, and I've never seen a new HE washer in action. But, man damn, I don't get it. They take forever to fill and never seem to move the clothes. My not too old Frigamore stack (which I now suspect has some GE roots) washed a Queen size, not King, down comforter in a third of the time. I'm not getting this new washer stuff.

Post# 823797 , Reply# 26   5/16/2015 at 22:25 (3,239 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Some of the new HE TL washers

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do seem to move clothes really good and use decent amounts of water, but I'm not sure if there is a difference between the Bravos or Cabrio when it comes to agitation - I know Maytag dishwashers and whirlpool dishwashers are totally different, even though it's the same company that makes them.....But yea - watching that comforter try to wash was painful to me!

Post# 823828 , Reply# 27   5/17/2015 at 06:22 (3,238 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Agitation is probably the same amongst all the Cabrio siblings. One thing I noticed different from the Maytag compared to my Kenmore is in Andrew's video where the spray comes on and the tub stops, repeated. That seems to be part of the prewash option. My machine doesn't do that. It sprays then spins slowly for a few minutes to do a sort of soaking, then sprays again, then repeat.

The most I've seen mine fill is about 3/4 of the way up and it didn't take long at all actually. I was very surprised.



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