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Post# 817034   4/2/2015 at 04:29 (3,305 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        

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Went back to have a look at Betta appliances on Sunday just to spend a bit of time before meeting friends for lunch, and lo and behold! a 10kg Teco (cheap Asian brand.),top loader with an actual agitator instead of the usual pulsator.
It looked to be a reasonable machine, see through lid and the agitator was a corkscrew shape, similar I think to the Whirlpool top loaders available here.
Saw the Speed Queen range too the T.L. looked really sturdy and tough, but to be honest, I would baulk at paying nearly $2,300 AU for a washer no matter how good it may be.





Post# 817037 , Reply# 1   4/2/2015 at 05:16 (3,305 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Cool. I wonder if the water level and temp can be manually adjusted....

It has a 10kg capacity. What does that convert to in litres?

This brings up another question I've been meaning to ask. I've done a search here on aw.org and on the web. While it was interesting to learn that 1/4 of a barrel is a 'firkin', I couldn't find an answer.

How does weight convert to volume in terms of washer capacity? One site I was on (ajmadison?) lists some washers by volume and others by weight....side by side, lol. It makes comparisons a bit difficult.

Once one gets the numbers, is a second conversion necessary to convert U.S. DOE (and ANSI?) measurements to find the presumed IEC used in the rest of the world?
I know that in hearing aids the numbers are VERY different depending on whether on whether one measures using ANSI or IEC so that might be a factor here ...

Am I making sense or should I re-post once I'm fully caffeinated?

Jim


Post# 817149 , Reply# 2   4/2/2015 at 20:26 (3,304 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
Some further info

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Hello Jim,
10kg means it will hold a 10kg clothing load, not sure what that would convert to, however 10kg is as far as I know the largest capacity machine you can get here in either style T.L. or F.L.
I had a look at Teco's website and this model isnt on it yet, however if it is similar to my LG T.L.the water levels would be programmed automatically although I can manually over ride the auto selection.
Really don't know about temperature selection sorry.
Steve.


Post# 817207 , Reply# 3   4/3/2015 at 06:33 (3,304 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

10 kg converts to approx. 22 lbs (dry weight). Big enough for a party. I've googled Teco, but nothing much comes up. Did you snap a selfie with this washer?

Post# 817378 , Reply# 4   4/3/2015 at 22:24 (3,303 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
No sorry

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No I didn't I'm afraid Rapunzel, funny though that the model isn't on Teco's website too.
Just as an aside, and even though I am not in the market for a new washer yet, I think I am in love with the Euromaid 5kg front loader and the Beko 6.5kg front loader when next I am needing a new machine, both of these will go to the top of the list I think along with the 7kg F&P Washsmart.


Post# 817524 , Reply# 5   4/5/2015 at 01:14 (3,302 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Beko 6.5kg

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Well Steve, I can tell you that we're very happy with the 6.5kg Beko machine we bought nearly 12 months ago. It does, as Matty mentioned some time ago, have a fussy spin at times, but it cleans very well and is quick. Cottons 40c takes 1:24. You can vary the temperature from cold to 90c in 10c steps too and the 'daily wash' cycle is effective too especially if used on a 2/3rd capacity load.


Post# 817866 , Reply# 6   4/7/2015 at 07:58 (3,300 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        
Yup, I should've posted fully caffeinated... My fault.

Thanks, guys for the info. However, I was a short-term victim/long-term beneficiary of the U.S.'s aborted drive to adopt the metric system in the 70's. I was in elementary school at the time. In preparation for the conversion that wasn't, my entire 5th grade class spent most of the year wandering around the school and grounds measuring EVERYTHING with metre sticks and converting the numbers on EVERY label we found to its metric equivalent.

So, regarding my question.... That 10kg equals about 22lbs. is the ONLY piece I do understand, lol. Please accept my apologies for being unclear and let me try again:

Often when I go onto a website selling washers I'll see 2 units side-by-side on my screen. One has its capacity given in weight and the the other in volume. How do I determine which is bigger? I'm looking for a weight <-> volume conversion formula. I don't care whether it's in metric or British, I can do any needed additional math myself.

Am I more clear now?

Thanks,

Jim


Post# 817880 , Reply# 7   4/7/2015 at 09:15 (3,300 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Incomparable

There is no such thing.
For example:
Bosch sells 9 and 8kg washers, but both have the exact same 64l drum.
Whirlpool sells a lot of washers under the Bauknecht brand here in Germany. They basicly have 2 drums (not sure the exact number in liters) but the smaller one is sold as 6, 7 and 8 kg while the bigger one is sold as 7, 8 and 9kg.
AEG has its ProTex and ProtexPlus drums. First is sold as 6, 7 and 8 kg with a volume of good 50l-ish. The bigger, 66l drum is sold as any load from 7 up to 10kg.
Even worse with dryers: All manufacturers except AEG offer only ONE drum size, labeled as different load sizes. Though, AEG does only use its smaller drum on low end models.
Conclusion: you can't compare the units directly, as there is not one certain factor.
So, the truest thing you can find is the load given in volume. On frontloaders, you are best of with a load per volume ratio of 1:10. This means that 1kg of everyday mixed laundry needs about 10l of drum space to move freely. You can go down to 1:9 without problems, and 1:8 is doable, but from there on it is not only a tight fit, but results will most likely suffer.
For toploaders, I'm not sure, but I guess that the 1:10 system should work as well. There is a USA Whirlpool HE TL offered as professional machine here in Germany with 87l of drum Volume, labeled as 10kg. This would boil down to approx. 1:9, but I can't say how it would behave with a load of this size.



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