Thread Number: 59200
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Frigidaire Strips Features From Their TOL Appliances |
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Post# 817670   4/5/2015 at 22:03 (3,280 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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It started with their front-load washer: They dropped the TOL machine, raised the price of a model from further down the line, and designated it their new TOL. The result? Loss of features. No more allergy option to raise water temp in cycles; no more interior light; no prewash, etc.
Now it seems they've done the same with their ranges. Only weeks after purchasing their TOL 308 electric double oven model, it disappeared from the website to be replaced by---you guessed it---a model from further down in the line, complete with a hefty price increase. Result? Loss of features. No automatic conversion for convection baking; no slow cooker option; no more sleek all electronic touch pad controls, etc. Glad I bought one when I did! Why, Frigidaire, why? Is this how Electrolux plans to make its flagship brand stand out as the premium choice? Hope they don't wind up treating their newly-acquired GE brand so shabbily; or perhaps their plan is to make GE the mid-line brand and Frigidaire the (gasp!) budget line. Very disappointing, at any rate. This post was last edited 04/06/2015 at 01:02 |
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Post# 817693 , Reply# 1   4/6/2015 at 06:30 (3,279 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 817698 , Reply# 2   4/6/2015 at 07:51 (3,279 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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I find the Automatic Baking on my range very hard to use! Rather than the old "Start" and "Stop" analog timers from the days of old, is the tedious task of pressing Up and Down arrows and translating the Minutes displayed, into Hours--and not helped by the doubt of when anything based on these increments is really "officially done"--as few can judge, without the experience of trial and error,--or just MY unwillingness to, that is--of how to avoid what you're baking gets under-cooked, dried out, burnt, or just burned...!
That is, ever since the innovator, FRIGIDAIRE, (the very make of my beloved gas stove) who first put NUMBERS on the key-pads of their very first Electronically-Controlled ranges became the very first too take 'em off (at least in the case of my "hi-end" GALLERY), which has a Speed Bake, giving me the impression of it being "Convection", but clearly not--and calls and inquiries to the manufacturer via eMail and snail mail, only resulted in endless offers to buy expensive service plans and even REPLACEMENT PLANS to an appliance that if it's STILL GOOD and WORKS, why such an effort to quickly wanna take it away & scrap it just to replace it with something that will also be a "Hunk O' JUNK!"????
-- Dave This post was last edited 04/06/2015 at 08:45 |
Post# 817709 , Reply# 3   4/6/2015 at 08:42 (3,279 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 817712 , Reply# 4   4/6/2015 at 08:50 (3,279 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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I knew this would become an eventual reality when I saw what Eugene mentioned happening with the FLeers. GE is the ONLY brand that featured heavy porcelain oven racks that could remain in oven during SC cycles. I noticed within the last few months Elux is offering said racks in their wall ovens. Previously Elux ovens wouldn't even execute a SC cycle until it could sense the racks were removed. I know I'm going to eventually need to replace my 1984 Hotpoiint slide in. I'm hoping GE will release an induction range with dual ovens and their porcelain racks. I'd like to see induction relegate smooth top radian to low-end cooking. Whirlpool already offers what I want but seems to be having electronic problems. KA does something similar, but not widely marketed from what I observe. And I hate the Aqua-Lift "oven cleaning" method. I've lived with the continuous clean joke for all these years. I don't want to live with half-assed aqua-lift cleaning either. At minimum I essentially cook for 2 meals and a snack 7 days a week.
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Post# 817738 , Reply# 6   4/6/2015 at 11:43 (3,279 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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That's the thing I don't understand about my Gallery's OVEN: I have a "baffle", at least, but my oven without convection, most-likely what my "Speed bake" is a substitute for, utilizes a fan supposedly behind it, that one for Convection Baking would make more obvious... (A baffle, that to me has no fan, or at least I don't see one turning, but hear a faint "Hum", if that!)
I just don't see any fan there, and maybe the "Speed" behind my "Speed Bake" has some other heat-increasing process to quicken the baking, but no matter: I follow the correct Time/Temperature procedures in what I bake, anyway, so such a feature is no use to me anyway, regardless...
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Post# 817794 , Reply# 7   4/6/2015 at 17:50 (3,279 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 817804 , Reply# 8   4/6/2015 at 19:45 (3,279 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 818328 , Reply# 9   4/9/2015 at 20:54 (3,276 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 818336 , Reply# 10   4/9/2015 at 21:20 (3,276 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 818347 , Reply# 12   4/9/2015 at 22:48 (3,276 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I just bought a Kenmore range with dual fan,Dual Speeder (/convention,Dual Fans,3Ring front right Burner,Dual Ring legt front Bürger,Warnung drüber,Warming burner,and all glass control back panel. It's stainless steel and works great. I bought a three year protection plan through FRIGIDAIRE because insects love to home the electronic boards. I need to find the meat thermometer because it has the option of using it and needs the probe to use that.
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Post# 818721 , Reply# 13   4/11/2015 at 07:42 (3,274 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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I noticed too the GE HE washers are not being manufactured any longer. They must be getting ready to share technology with Electrolux/Frigidaire. The last version of their top load HE was pretty good actually, with the WaterFall system. One model is just about 1/2 price at Home Depot. I imagine the higher end ones will get slashed more too. Would be a good buy.
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Post# 818763 , Reply# 14   4/11/2015 at 11:06 (3,274 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Other bad news in the appliance world.
I don't think I'm going to shop for one of their products anytime soon... I won't change my mind about Electrolux being good vacuum cleaners but I'll never be interested in getting a large appliance with the Electrolux name! And I don't like the idea of GE being down the hierarchy from Electrolux and Frigidaire even lower!
I know how WCI and Electrolux damaged the Frigidaire brand to the point many people who are 60 or younger (and who were too young to shop for new appliances before 1980) associate this brand as crap but I'm afraid that they'll do the same with GE. |
Post# 818770 , Reply# 16   4/11/2015 at 11:33 (3,274 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 818836 , Reply# 17   4/11/2015 at 17:48 (3,274 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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PhilR,
What I think you refer to as Electrolux vacuums is not Electrolux anymore...Electrolux became Aerus several years ago which is still very confusing to the general public. Gary CLICK HERE TO GO TO countryguy's LINK |
Post# 818869 , Reply# 18   4/11/2015 at 21:12 (3,274 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Hi Gary, I know that! I guess that's also why Electrolux now sells Frigidaire vacuum cleaners! They must have some kind of agreement with Aerus that doesn't let them use their own name on vacuum cleaners! I wish that would also apply to other appliances they sell in North America!
I do have just a few vacuum cleaners but all the ones I currently have but one pink Hoover Constellation are Electrolux models. Most of them are made in Pointe Claire but I do have one Golden Jubilee (I think some of these were sold when the Pointe-Claire factory was on strike). So I have an 88, two 89, an AP-100, an AP-280 and the 1205 Jubilee. I hate the fact that Electrolux (which I don't think has anything to do with Consolidated Foods) now sells Frigidaire-branded central vacuums. The real Frigidaire division of GM never did that!
Oh, I forgot, I also have an Electrolux CB. It's been hidden in a pile of stuff for years! This post was last edited 04/11/2015 at 21:35 |
Post# 820900 , Reply# 21   4/25/2015 at 14:15 (3,260 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Seems they are back with a face lift and some new features such as Time Saver and, unsurprisingly, WiFi connectivity.
www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadis... |
Post# 820901 , Reply# 22   4/25/2015 at 14:29 (3,260 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 820908 , Reply# 23   4/25/2015 at 16:27 (3,260 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 820993 , Reply# 25   4/26/2015 at 12:12 (3,259 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Chrome oven racks generally are to be removed during self-cleaning to avoid dulling the shiny finish and developing a drag when sliding in/out. Porcelain-coated racks can stay in, the finish is not affected ... but they also can develop a drag when sliding. A very light application of vegetable oil helps with the drag but I've found can also cause a bit of burned residue. |
Post# 821012 , Reply# 26   4/26/2015 at 13:42 (3,259 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Aren't the GE higher end washplate/impeller washers sourced? LG?
I know someone who just bought one of these (sets) about a year ago and is pretty annoyed with the long cycle time and "lack of adequate water" in the washer. They live on a lakefront beach and the ge is pretty bad at sand removal with a mostly solid plastic tub bottom. She wants her full-fill KM Oasis (agitator) washer back. |
Post# 821022 , Reply# 27   4/26/2015 at 15:20 (3,259 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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