Thread Number: 59238
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Whirlpool World Washer |
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Post# 818176   4/8/2015 at 22:56 (3,298 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818177 , Reply# 1   4/8/2015 at 23:03 (3,298 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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I know, I know. I need another project like I need another hole in my head. But it looked decent. Although the tub is dry, there still was water in the hose, and I can hear water sloshing inside the washer. I have read these washers can be a toss-up in terms of reliability. They can be trouble prone or fairly decent. I haven't tried it, but for some reason I think it works fine. We shall see. |
Post# 818194 , Reply# 2   4/9/2015 at 04:24 (3,298 days old) by kenmore58 (Rhode Island)   |   | |
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Post# 818196 , Reply# 3   4/9/2015 at 04:49 (3,298 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 818206 , Reply# 5   4/9/2015 at 06:08 (3,298 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818211 , Reply# 6   4/9/2015 at 06:39 (3,298 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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It needs a big basket to give things room to move easily because the agitation is not spectacular. It is adequate, but not spectacular. |
Post# 818220 , Reply# 7   4/9/2015 at 08:09 (3,298 days old) by searsbest (Attleboro, Ma)   |   | |
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Post# 818251 , Reply# 8   4/9/2015 at 10:08 (3,298 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818269 , Reply# 9   4/9/2015 at 12:40 (3,298 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Looks like it's actually a more robust system mechanically than the VMW platforms that are now the common agitator top loaders. From the parts diagrams, the gearbox looks to be solid metal, and the pump is horizontally mounted, which I would love my 4800 to be. The pump in the modern VMW machines is vertically mounted directly to the tub bottom, which causes this terrible rhythmic coughing sound when the pump is running "dry".
Let us know how it runs! |
Post# 818270 , Reply# 10   4/9/2015 at 12:44 (3,298 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Post# 818293 , Reply# 11   4/9/2015 at 15:12 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818324 , Reply# 13   4/9/2015 at 20:21 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818327 , Reply# 14   4/9/2015 at 20:43 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818335 , Reply# 15   4/9/2015 at 21:14 (3,297 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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willing to bet the belt is slipping....you might be able to loosen the motor bolts and tighten it a bit...
not sure exactly what this configuration has underneath.... no spin could be the belt slipping, or the shifter not engaging....usually it works in part, the shifter engages while the drum is rotated slightly to lock it all together, if not working properly, everything is not matching up.... should be similar to a cabrio belt drive machine.... |
Post# 818339 , Reply# 16   4/9/2015 at 21:33 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818346 , Reply# 17   4/9/2015 at 22:27 (3,297 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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this may help too.....
seems to be a shift mode....and looks like some sort of brake in there too.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK |
Post# 818349 , Reply# 18   4/9/2015 at 22:59 (3,297 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Congrats on the find of your washer. I have always thought these were very cool washers! I bet it will be a lot of fun! |
Post# 818358 , Reply# 19   4/9/2015 at 23:14 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818359 , Reply# 20   4/9/2015 at 23:15 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818360 , Reply# 21   4/9/2015 at 23:16 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818363 , Reply# 22   4/9/2015 at 23:36 (3,297 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Great news about the belt. Type in the belt number on Ebay. I bet you can find it new dirt cheap! B |
Post# 818365 , Reply# 23   4/9/2015 at 23:36 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818372 , Reply# 24   4/10/2015 at 00:40 (3,297 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Did you replace the belt or trying to run it without the belt? It will not run without the / a belt in place. |
Post# 818373 , Reply# 25   4/10/2015 at 00:50 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818377 , Reply# 26   4/10/2015 at 01:23 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 818396 , Reply# 27   4/10/2015 at 06:48 (3,297 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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It's the capacitor (part # 3429938). I removed the motor and connected it direct. Worked fine. I worked the agitator by hand, the pulley/splutch turned true. I removed the capacitor and tried to discharge it...zilch, nada, dead as a door nail. I've looked online for a replacement, $29 used, $47 new. There's quite a few appliance parts stores near me. I'll look there next. Oh yeah, NO LEAKS! Underside of washer was bone dry, zero rust. |
Post# 818409 , Reply# 28   4/10/2015 at 07:47 (3,297 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 818445 , Reply# 29   4/10/2015 at 10:21 (3,297 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Very good. I feel a laundry front coming to NYC. |
Post# 818854 , Reply# 30   4/11/2015 at 19:31 (3,295 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 818859 , Reply# 31   4/11/2015 at 20:02 (3,295 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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I am surprised on how many machines apparently were/are in use in this complex. I mean, there is IS plenty of room for a full size washer. Today was a bust looking for the capacitor. I guess it's best just order it online. One thing about the capacitor that the machine came with, it was used. It's all dented and scratched, while the rest of the machine underneath is in like new shape.So it has failed before.
I did get new hoses for it to convert the machine to a permanent installation. |
Post# 818862 , Reply# 32   4/11/2015 at 20:10 (3,295 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 819180 , Reply# 33   4/14/2015 at 00:46 (3,293 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819816 , Reply# 34   4/17/2015 at 23:46 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819821 , Reply# 35   4/18/2015 at 01:34 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819822 , Reply# 36   4/18/2015 at 01:37 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819823 , Reply# 37   4/18/2015 at 01:39 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819824 , Reply# 38   4/18/2015 at 01:45 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819825 , Reply# 39   4/18/2015 at 01:48 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 819828 , Reply# 40   4/18/2015 at 02:38 (3,289 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)   |   | |
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Congratulations Louie on getting your machine up and running. I have to admit I think I would have had a hard time sleeping knowing that your new toy is awaiting it's first trial. Best of luck with it! Can't wait to see the vid from it! Rick |
Post# 819847 , Reply# 41   4/18/2015 at 07:25 (3,289 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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WP introduced this machine a few [ in the mid eighties ] years after they introduced the DD washers, these washers were cheaper to build and had a faster spin speed, but unfortunately they did not have great durability.
They were all built in Mexico and all had the same 2 cubic foot tub capacity. The machine was sold in four different cabinet configurations. They sold two different models with a rear control panels, they were both 24" wide had mechanical timers but came in a standard height and a shorter machine as well. They also sold the model that Louie has with the electronic controls at the rear and this last model had a SS wash basket.
The biggest weak area of these machines was a main water seal that was at the bottom of the wash basket that often failed because of mineral buildup [ generally caused by too little detergent usage in harder water conditions ] and once water got into the bearings that was the end of the machine.
The new WP BD TL washers are a greatly beefed up version of these washers, bigger more powerful motor, stronger belt, greatly beefed up transmission [ note, both transmission designs have ALL plastic gears ] seal and main bearings. The other great thing about the newer BD washer design is that it is very easy to replace a transmission and seal and bearing assembly, so the new machines are no longer a throw away machine.
But overall these little world washers are fun and effective washers, you will have fun with it Louie. If you need any parts we have boxes of them, we still recycle a few of these machines every month because of bad main bearings. [ Louie if you want to see if the motor capacitor was really replaced before just compare the code date on the old part to the manufacturing date of the machines serial #.
John L. |
Post# 819863 , Reply# 42   4/18/2015 at 10:24 (3,289 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Thanks Rick. One thing I can say about the washer is how quiet it is. Even on spin it's quieter than any other automatic I've had.
Hey thanks for all info John. We have very soft water here, so hopefully those seals will hold up a bit longer. The capacitor was replaced before I got this machine. It looked all dented, while the rest of the machine underneath was pristine. |
Post# 819870 , Reply# 43   4/18/2015 at 11:10 (3,289 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 820010 , Reply# 44   4/19/2015 at 10:11 (3,288 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 820114 , Reply# 45   4/20/2015 at 02:51 (3,287 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 820179 , Reply# 46   4/20/2015 at 16:06 (3,286 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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ultramatic/louie!!!
it really looks amazing. you did an outta sight job on that little washer!!! it's just too bad you aren't closer to me, because i've been thinking about getting a used portable for one of my cousins. or at least mentioning a portable washing machine to her, the next time i see her. i think she might be interested in something like this, due to her situation & since she lives in an apartment and it's just her & her 2 kids now. anyways, you did a GRRRRREAT job on that little whirlpool!!! ;o) |
Post# 820227 , Reply# 47   4/20/2015 at 21:49 (3,286 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 820250 , Reply# 49   4/21/2015 at 00:22 (3,286 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Oh the Super Wash is even longer, at 18 minutes. Glad you liked the videos, even though they were a tad too long. Next vids I make I'm going to edit them. I wasn't sure what I was going to do with the washer, but a neighbor saw it and wanted to buy it on the spot. So down it went to the 13th floor, to it's new home. Stay tuned, another one is bound to pop up sooner or later. |
Post# 820252 , Reply# 50   4/21/2015 at 00:51 (3,286 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 820257 , Reply# 51   4/21/2015 at 02:33 (3,286 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)   |   | |
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Hey Louie- Do you know what the spin speed was on that machine? I know it was a fast spin. Just curious about how high it was. |
Post# 820282 , Reply# 52   4/21/2015 at 06:32 (3,286 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The motor sounds like it is working hard but it stays as cool as a cumber through those generous wash cycles, I have NEVER seen a motor fail on one of these washers. Many guessed that all that stopping and reversing and starting might be hard on the motor but in reality it does not hurt it at all.
The spin speed is around 800 RPMs
The new VWM top load machines from WP are a greatly beefed up version of these machines. |
Post# 1098260 , Reply# 53   11/25/2020 at 01:21 (1,241 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Mine is the LCR7244HQ0. I noticed something weird. The suspension rod supports have surface rust. (I sanded and paint/primer over it) Something weird I noticed is the gearcase hub/bell where the brake solenoid is has surface rust. However my Lip seal and bearings are not bad??? I saw that then filled it and drained it then tipped it over and there was no water. I ran affresh in it and a BUTTON OF SLUDGE AND RESIDUE INSTANTLY APPEARED. I feel like I saved this one just in time. I used to have the Kenmore one 110.49722990. but it rusted out and my dad recycled it. The bearings were not bad on that one either. Being stupid thinking I was never going to get another one I did not bother begging my dad to remove the gearcase. Serial number indicates Manufactured April 1999. I don't have any water leaks. I think I should replace the lip seal though so I don't have to go through the nightmare of saving up for a gearcase in the event I ruin this one by attempting to take it apart to replace the bearings. The Kenmore one lasted 3 years 6 months on the back porch uncovered through the summer heat then winterized through the snow. I use this machine for smaller loads. I normally use my LG WM2801HW or WM2277HW or Maytag FAV6800AWW or Whirlpool GVW9959KQ2. |
Post# 1098281 , Reply# 54   11/25/2020 at 08:50 (1,241 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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