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Thread Number: 59637
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| Post# 822385 5/7/2015 at 09:57 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
As some of you know or worked out, I picked up the new unused Hotpoint 1504 that was on ebay a few weeks ago. The machine I grew up with and never thought I'd own one. Had to raid the house renovation budget but I can live without doing up the place for a bit longer!
Thought I'd do a thread on here to show the old girl and comment on some of the design changes between this and the newer models. I'm going to do this the old way so I can put comments on each photo. Here's the first - the box 
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| Post# 822386 , Reply# 1 5/7/2015 at 09:59 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822387 , Reply# 2 5/7/2015 at 10:00 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822388 , Reply# 3 5/7/2015 at 10:01 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822389 , Reply# 4 5/7/2015 at 10:04 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822390 , Reply# 5 5/7/2015 at 10:06 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822391 , Reply# 6 5/7/2015 at 10:12 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Without the plastic. My Mum got her machine just after they got married in October 1969 so it would have been one of the first of these models. Her's had minutes on the timeline rather than the Max, Med, Min and the timeline lit up. My service manual says that the lamp and lampholder were deleted in 1971 - I may resurrect this feature
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| Post# 822392 , Reply# 7 5/7/2015 at 10:14 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822393 , Reply# 8 5/7/2015 at 10:16 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822395 , Reply# 9 5/7/2015 at 10:20 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822396 , Reply# 10 5/7/2015 at 10:22 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822397 , Reply# 11 5/7/2015 at 10:26 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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no fitted plugs in those days. My Mum's machine had the old wiring colours as these hadn't been standardised at that time. My aunties later top loader had a round pin 15 amp plug fitted and had to have the lead extended so it could plug into the only 15 amp socket which was next to the fireplace in the living room
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| Post# 822398 , Reply# 12 5/7/2015 at 10:28 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822399 , Reply# 13 5/7/2015 at 10:30 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822401 , Reply# 14 5/7/2015 at 10:32 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822403 , Reply# 15 5/7/2015 at 10:38 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822404 , Reply# 16 5/7/2015 at 10:39 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822405 , Reply# 17 5/7/2015 at 10:41 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822406 , Reply# 18 5/7/2015 at 10:43 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822407 , Reply# 19 5/7/2015 at 10:45 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822408 , Reply# 20 5/7/2015 at 10:48 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822409 , Reply# 21 5/7/2015 at 10:50 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822410 , Reply# 22 5/7/2015 at 10:51 (3,268 days old) by mrzach2010 () | ||
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What a fantastic find! Lucky you. I would love one of these but I'm a stickler when it comes to the water bill! I'm sure its worth it though, have fun! | ||
| Post# 822411 , Reply# 23 5/7/2015 at 10:52 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822412 , Reply# 24 5/7/2015 at 10:53 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822413 , Reply# 25 5/7/2015 at 10:57 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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here's one of the biggest differences to the later machines - the water inlets are on the lower side at the back and the drain hose connection is near the bottom. The inlets were moved to the console after this model and the drain hose eventually moved to the top to stop the machine from draining if the drain hose was not installed high enough.
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| Post# 822414 , Reply# 26 5/7/2015 at 10:59 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822416 , Reply# 27 5/7/2015 at 11:03 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822417 , Reply# 28 5/7/2015 at 11:06 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822418 , Reply# 29 5/7/2015 at 11:09 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822419 , Reply# 30 5/7/2015 at 11:13 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Post# 822420 , Reply# 31 5/7/2015 at 11:18 (3,268 days old) by vacbear58  (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Post# 822450 , Reply# 33 5/7/2015 at 13:08 (3,268 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint Top Loading Automatics....
Fantastic find there Steve, and a pleasure to see the packaging from the "Delivery Days" getting quite the Top loader launderama down there, will have to have a visit when its all complete!!
I picked one of these up as a trade in mid 80`s, needed a new belt and sold it to my sisters boyfriend, worked for his mum and large family until recently!! A great design that stood the test of time and delivered solid reliability...the pub near us growing up had one in the kitchen upstairs, it was in a front window with low sill and could be seen from outside, also it pumped out into a trough drain and then down a long pipe, you could see the steam rising and smell the boiling whites Persil sudsy water when emptying.... Now get that Persil opened and make that Suds Cake... 
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| Post# 822467 , Reply# 35 5/7/2015 at 15:51 (3,268 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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| Post# 822471 , Reply# 36 5/7/2015 at 16:24 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Hey Al - Hope you are well and settled into your new place. Was worried it might bore people so glad it's been interesting. Will do some more tomorrow.
Mathew - I hadn't thought about heat dissipation. I've had another look at the service manual to see if there are any clues. It states that the 2 pole replacement motors were introduced in October 1977 and after March 1978 an extra groove was machined in the clutch housing and a second anti-squeal spring was fitted. I guess the build up of heat could cause the squealing? Not sure of what but I think your explanation is probably right and can't find any other mention of it. It was great to get the box for both this and the 1509. I love the design on this one with the bubbles and the date is great too - what a Valentine's Day pressie. Haha I remember those suds cakes Mike - would occasionally see one in my mums machine - she used Daz mainly although Lux flakes for curtains and Stergene for woollies. Shame you can't get big box non automatic powder now - the modern boxes are really small. Will have to stoke up the hot water for a top loader wash in at some point! Ian - that cooker is fantastic - I had a good look at it when I picked the machine up. The chap we got these off was really nice but said he wouldn't tell me how much he paid to save me from tears lol. I have been in two minds about using it but am sure I will soon. I actually bought some new taps so I could use the tap adapters but they are not as they looked in the picture and they won't fit so will have to keep my eye out for some second hand ones - how sad am I! I did think if he's managed to get these beauties then he should be briefed on other potential finds - here's hoping :) | ||
| Post# 822472 , Reply# 37 5/7/2015 at 16:28 (3,268 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Hi Keith
Thanks - yes will be using I'm sure - will retire the 1509 for a while at least. I'm looking forward to hearing the difference between the 2 and 4 pole motors. Funnily enough, while I was researching the 1504 another used one appeared in Birmingham on free cycle back in December. It looked like it was being used to test textiles as was a bit worn. Wonder if anyone spotted it and got it - amazing for 2 to come up. Just shows you that there are still classic out there. S :) | ||
| Post# 822515 , Reply# 38 5/8/2015 at 03:52 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Here's the link to the 1504 that was advertised in Birmingham on Freecycle back in December - I only saw this recently buy it may still be available if anyone is interested
CLICK HERE TO GO TO sesteve's LINK | ||
| Post# 822522 , Reply# 39 5/8/2015 at 06:43 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822523 , Reply# 40 5/8/2015 at 06:45 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822524 , Reply# 41 5/8/2015 at 06:48 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822525 , Reply# 42 5/8/2015 at 06:50 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822526 , Reply# 43 5/8/2015 at 06:52 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822527 , Reply# 44 5/8/2015 at 06:53 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822528 , Reply# 45 5/8/2015 at 06:56 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822529 , Reply# 46 5/8/2015 at 06:59 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822530 , Reply# 47 5/8/2015 at 07:04 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822531 , Reply# 48 5/8/2015 at 07:05 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822532 , Reply# 49 5/8/2015 at 07:07 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822533 , Reply# 50 5/8/2015 at 07:08 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822534 , Reply# 51 5/8/2015 at 07:15 (3,267 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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| Post# 822557 , Reply# 52 5/8/2015 at 09:25 (3,267 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland) | ||
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Just to formally congratulate you here Steve. Loving the pictures, it's a dream come true! James. | ||
| Post# 822749 , Reply# 53 5/10/2015 at 09:17 (3,265 days old) by ooversanwashers () | ||
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I so wanted your washer when I saw it on eBay! Hi to all I'm a new member and hope I'll be welcome? Sesteve I saw your washer on eBay and got so exited but you beat me to it! Will you be using it or keeping it brand new? | ||
| Post# 822752 , Reply# 54 5/10/2015 at 09:59 (3,265 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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How fashions change - or not There is something so elegant, simplistic, even majestic about the design of these 1504s that the fashion has almost gone full circle and I think would suit a modern kitchen well. The picture that (I think) another member posted, who is using an example of this model everyday, proves it. R | ||
| Post# 822888 , Reply# 55 5/11/2015 at 05:15 (3,264 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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Hi Triumphtoledo,
Totally agree with what you are saying about going full circle, maybe in the 80's/90's the machine may have been a bit out of place, but with many retro influences in our lives now it fits in well in a modern kitchen. The B&Q man did take a second look when i said this machine needs to be intergrated into my new kitchen - LOL Cheers Keith
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| Post# 823175 , Reply# 56 5/13/2015 at 04:39 (3,262 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Hi Luke
I know that feeling but that's eBay for you. I am planning on using it. The room I currently have as a laundry in the house is an en-suite which I am going to convert into a proper utility room so this machine will be integrated into the design - a bit like Keith's. I think this particular model is a timeless design - so simple yet quite stylish. Keith - how does yours cope with an unbalanced spin? The 1509 I have can certainly wobble so I'm not sure how much clearance to leave at the sides. S :) | ||
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Post# 823300 , Reply# 57 5/13/2015 at 20:29 (3,262 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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looks like | ||
| Post# 823317 , Reply# 58 5/13/2015 at 23:10 (3,261 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
What a beautiful machine. Of all the Hotpoint TLs this is my preferred control panel style, very minimalistic yet functional.
I'm in full agreement with the previous posts, the styling has held up remarkably well over the years in spite of its age, and wouldn't look at all out of place in a modern setting. The later brown trimmed models, as much as I still like them, dated a lot more quickly. Those tap adaptors! I definitely remember them, don't think we got plumbed for an auto until the mid 80s. The nozzle that lets you draw water off while the machine is running always reminds me somewhat of a Supatap, something else you hardly ever see nowadays. | ||
| Post# 924275 , Reply# 59 3/1/2017 at 04:02 (2,604 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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more pictures
Hi all
As another one of these machines has surfaced recently I am putting up some additional pictures I took of my machine as I had to strip it down as it would not get up to full speed on spin - hardly surprising after being sat there for such a long time. Hopefully others will find them helpful. Starting with the cabinet removed 
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| Post# 924276 , Reply# 60 3/1/2017 at 04:02 (2,604 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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Post# 924303 , Reply# 80 3/1/2017 at 05:11 (2,604 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Very interesting pictures Steve, thank you for posting. I don't think mine had any problem getting up to the spin speed but I don't recall a light in the timeline, which I think looks really good - looks like there is another small project in store.
And I believe yet another 1504 has emerged in Lincoln as well .... Al | ||
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Post# 924307 , Reply# 81 3/1/2017 at 05:16 (2,604 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hotpoint 1504
Great pictures Steve will come in handy as they appear to be multiplying at a rate of knots ha ha....
just looked up the serial numbers in the one at Als, some 64, 000 after yours !! Just goes to show "if it aint broke dont fix it! as the build was virtually the same from this series with the poly outer tub right to the end... | ||
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Post# 924323 , Reply# 82 3/1/2017 at 07:14 (2,604 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney) |
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Thank you for posting about this awesome find. What a beautiful machine. | ||
| Post# 924344 , Reply# 83 3/1/2017 at 09:58 (2,604 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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haha Thanks guys.
Yes it was the Lincolnshire find that prompted the extra pictures as better to create the record here than to have just sent them on directly- and a lot easier lol. I'm looking forward to some pictures of that one soon. The lamp was deleted early on so mine was a retrofit - quite easy to do. The only issue I have with my machine is that my belt seems to slip a bit during drain and can't be tightened any further. Have not had any luck finding one of these chunky ones so far but it doesn't stop me using it. I can't believe its 64,000 more either - I wonder how many of this model were actually made in total! S | ||
| Post# 924374 , Reply# 84 3/1/2017 at 14:45 (2,604 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia) | ||
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Post# 924376 , Reply# 85 3/1/2017 at 14:52 (2,604 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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