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Thread Number: 59683
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| Post# 822948 5/11/2015 at 13:55 (3,265 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
 You'd need to really, really want one badly to pay this price. For $2,200 I'd want one rebuilt and with the back panel on it. In Texas. CLICK HERE TO GO TO twintubdexter's LINK on eBay
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| Post# 822968 , Reply# 2 5/11/2015 at 16:07 (3,265 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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If you read between the lines the guy is telling us that the set probably needs recapping, may not work when plugged in. Plus this statement "Quite a statement piece for them and priced accordingly." means he's in it for the bucks. I predict it won't sell until he lowers the price, but about $1600.00. | ||
| Post# 822996 , Reply# 3 5/11/2015 at 21:10 (3,265 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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And a Fisher in my neighborhood Sort of nice but way overpriced. At least all the knobs are there. I do like the Garrard Type A turntable. $475...$125/$150 would be reasonable. CLICK HERE TO GO TO twintubdexter's LINK on Palmsprings Craigslist
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Post# 823020 , Reply# 4 5/12/2015 at 00:59 (3,265 days old) by tolivac  (greenville nc) |
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That Magnavox CG -way out of my price range-and---it needs reworking.I could do that--but for the price they are asking-the work should already be done,unit has the rear cover and set to go.Good they gave the crossover frequency--this is the same for Altec VOTTS-COOL!!!! | ||
| Post# 823055 , Reply# 5 5/12/2015 at 09:38 (3,264 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
what a piece of puffery...
A Maggie CG is a nice unit but is not even CLOSE to being the best console ever: a Fisher President and Executive, and several HHScott, Pilot, Stromberg Carlson and Ampex consoles are better by FAR...at least if we are talking best sounding, and that doesn't include some custom McIntosh and Marantz and other hi-end component units that were put together and sold by top HiFi shops, often in Barzilay cabinets with Altec or Stephens speakers, that are still out there. $4-600 should buy a good CG... imo.
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| Post# 823056 , Reply# 6 5/12/2015 at 09:41 (3,264 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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what a piece of puffery...
A Maggie CG is a nice unit but is not even CLOSE to being the best console ever: a Fisher President and Executive, and several HHScott, Pilot, Stromberg Carlson and Ampex consoles are better by FAR...at least if we are talking best sounding, and that doesn't include some custom McIntosh and Marantz and other hi-end component units that were put together and sold by top HiFi shops, often in Barzilay cabinets with Altec or Stephens speakers, that are still out there. $4-600 should buy a good CG... imo.
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| Post# 823057 , Reply# 7 5/12/2015 at 09:42 (3,264 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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| Post# 823095 , Reply# 8 5/12/2015 at 14:53 (3,264 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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There is ALWAYS something that is going to sound "better" including anything made by Fisher, Pilot, Ampex and the rest. People's preferences as well as their hearing itself differs from one individual to another. That Concert Grand is way overpriced to someone of modest means like myself but they remain fine instruments and are becoming more difficult to find every year. They are appreciated for what they are.
When I first got interested in console stereos a few years back it was not uncommon to see them advertised as free "curb pickups." Most thrift stores would not take any of them. I have no idea if sellers get what they're asking for today but I don't see many "freebees" unless it's something that's been sitting out in the back yard for years.
This Magnavox in my dining room was free. I was told to get there before the garbage truck arrived. The nice lady (she was losing her home to foreclosure) told me it belonged to her grandmother and she was grateful I rescued it. It's no TOL but I like it. I use it much more often than the Concert Grand, probably because it doesn't have 40 vacuum tubes.
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Post# 823097 , Reply# 9 5/12/2015 at 14:59 (3,264 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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Twin, I've poked around on Google looking for someone who rebuilds console electronics but not too much luck. I agree with you that the demand may have dried up. I will keep looking. | ||
| Post# 823109 , Reply# 10 5/12/2015 at 16:37 (3,264 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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there's still some reasonable stuff out there...
we've picked up 2 in the last few months, 1 free Sears Silvertone all tube console, 1 all tube Magnificent Maganvox at the Goodwill for $40. 2 weeks ago there was a similar Maggie near Ithaca about an hour away for "asking $50" that looked nice in pictures. Also being of modest means, I've never paid more than $250 for any console, including several Fishers, including the aforementioned President and Executive, 2 Pilots, &c. Be hard to find one of those for that now, no thanks to eBay, unless one got lucky, but that Ambassador above could probably be had for well less than the asking... however it's not that overpriced, it has a nice and desirable push-pull stereo 7591 tube amp that alone would bring $250+ and Garrard Type As in nice shape bring $100-150 these days.
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Post# 823215 , Reply# 12 5/13/2015 at 09:39 (3,263 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Pilot 
Ugh! " At what RL trash truck can do to pianos,jet skis,discarded fuel,water tanks,and so on we can only imagine the fate that was waiting that hi fi. " I feel less for the plastic molded Mediterranean casket-looking consoles, though.
But, you guys mentioned Pilot. I rarely see these in Craigslist and I'm not familiar with the name. Maybe these were sold in the high-end audio stores, but I wasn't shopping for stereo equipment until the mid-80's and later…by then, Pilot was probably history? I am still thinking of one that showed up a few miles from me, at just $75 and I had to pass due to a bad cold that week. Just wondering - has anyone owned or heard a Pilot stereo and how would you describe the sound quality or what would it be comparable to? Since these are so seldom seen, fewer consumers probably purchased these and what would be the incentive to buy these over , say, a Fisher, Scotts, Magnavox, and other similar quality brands? I hate to see these consoles dis-membered, unless the cabinets are so far gone. Here's a Pilot tubed amp that was removed, I presume, and has been on CL a while (second photo below): 1958 PILOT SA-260 EL34 STEREO TUBE POWER AMP 60W HIGH FIDELITY - $1095 (GREENSBORO) CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Greensboro Craigslist | ||
| Post# 823217 , Reply# 13 5/13/2015 at 09:56 (3,263 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Pilot tended to sell mostly in the NE and maybe west coast
Phil: it was started as a radio company in the '20s and was one of the oldest mfr's, before almost all of the better known names, almost as old as RCA. Very good quality, on par with Fisher/Scott/Sherwood etc. I've owned 2 Pilot consoles and 3 or 4 of the SA-232 and integrated amps, as well as several very rare PiloTone mono preamps and a SP-215 preamp. The SA-260 EL-34 amp is one of their most sought after units, never had one but wish I did. That $1100 price is not out of line in today's market. I'd bust my butt to get to buy any Pilot tube stuff... if you see one snag it!
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| Post# 823218 , Reply# 14 5/13/2015 at 10:00 (3,263 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Post# 823219 , Reply# 15 5/13/2015 at 10:19 (3,263 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Pilot history
Thank you, Roger - it's good I didn't find a tubed version, but the solid state one looked decent. I had NO idea this company was founded in the early 1900's. It's understandable, now that you put its marketing territory in perspective, why I didn't recognize the brand. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the tubed console. Surprises happen, but I'm not holding my breath. :-)
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Post# 823226 , Reply# 16 5/13/2015 at 10:51 (3,263 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Reply #3 - more in the area
There's a few other Fishers, to add to Reply #3, and reasonable…
1)Vintage Fisher Console Stereo - $100 (Moreno Valley) - inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/5... Ad: " Old Fisher "Metropolitan" M-399 console stereo in great condition.Has phono,stereo,am/fm,aux/tape inputs.BSR Turntable(made in U.K.)needs cleaning/service.In elegant mahogany finish.Little bit dusty.Comes with original fisher sales brochure and manual.$100....Email with contact # for fastest reply.Thanks.." 2)Console Vtg Fisher AM/FM radio cabinet w/turntable & speakers - $160 o.b.o. (long beach)- losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/fuo... | ||
| Post# 823243 , Reply# 17 5/13/2015 at 14:08 (3,263 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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In my book... The high end Motorola 3 channel is about the best sounding unit ever thought up...With a Drexel cabinet no less! | ||
| Post# 823258 , Reply# 18 5/13/2015 at 15:44 (3,263 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Had one of those 3 channel Moto consoles once...
and it was decent, 6 x 6V6GTs for 3 discrete channels @ 8-10 watts/ch, smallish open frame output transformers, 15" bass speaker for the center channel (low frequencies are omni-directional), and 2-way mid-high speakers on each side. The problem with a lot of bass output in a console is feedback, especially to the turntable cartridge, and microphonics in pre-amp tubes, so mfr's of consoles tended to roll off bass response in consoles sharply in the below 70 Hz range.
Stromberg cleverly approached this problem with actual bookshelf-sized cabinet speakers made with wax-impregnated very heavy-duty corrugated cardboard (!) to combat cabinet resonance, and floated them on thick fiberglass insulation pads, inside the speaker compartments on each side of the console, so there was no actual direct connection to the console cabinet. Innovative, and it worked quite well. | ||
| Post# 823260 , Reply# 19 5/13/2015 at 15:53 (3,263 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Fisher 2) console above...
is one of their nicer units from the transition era, with a Dual 1009 or 1019 (?), it's hard to see, mid 60s turntable, and it could still be tube as the amp panel resembles the X-100-C, which was the last component tube integrated amp, but also is similar in looks to the earliest transistor receivers ala T-220 etc. Very nice unit regardless, but particularly worthy if a 7591 tube amp, which most of the last ones were.
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| Post# 823262 , Reply# 20 5/13/2015 at 15:56 (3,263 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Post# 824564 , Reply# 22 5/21/2015 at 21:59 (3,255 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Blonde ! Maganvox Imperial Tube Console - $1600 (Tyler)
Cool unit, but …choking on asking price…back taxes due?
FIREDOME - Roger, this cracked faceplate is nearly as broken up as the one I received from you after the Post Office gorillas played Dodge-Ball with it. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Dallas Craigslist | ||
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Post# 824572 , Reply# 23 5/22/2015 at 00:33 (3,255 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Choking on the price,too!Least it was restored. | ||
| Post# 865214 , Reply# 24 2/2/2016 at 15:31 (2,998 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Resurrecting this console thread! Today's save!.......
Picked up off the curb, one Fisher Metropolitan console today, identical to the one in reply #16 above, and just 2 blocks from my house! I NEVER go that particular route, but for some reason today I did - fate?? This poor console was sitting by the curb, the wooden speaker grills kicked in by some reprobate, the BSR turntable arm completely severed from the plinth, the sorry cabinet beat up and not at all restorable imo. I knew it was far too late to be a tube model, probably a '68 or '59, and a near BOL model, but it looked so forlorn, I felt sorry for it, so picked it up. An hour later the receiver was removed and on my kitchen table for cleaning, the derelict cabinet at my own curb. These are some of the last US-made Fishers, the sell out to Emerson Electric around this time soon reduced them to junk. Hopefully she will sing again.
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Post# 865248 , Reply# 25 2/2/2016 at 20:39 (2,998 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Post# 865268 , Reply# 26 2/2/2016 at 22:18 (2,998 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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An Imperial - RESTORED Magnavox Imperial Console Stereo w/Tu
Since we're on the topic...
ad:"Restored 1960s vintage retro french provincial mid century modern MCM antique console credenza cabinet AM/FM stereo radio with turntable record player phonograph. Excellent condition, everything works perfectly, a few light scratches and scuffs on top but only visible under bright light. Two 15" woofers and two horns, great sound! Comes with adapter/connector for iPod, MP3, or portable CD player. Measures 54L 33H 19D. IF THIS LISTING IS ACTIVE, THE ITEM IS STILL AVAILABLE, I WILL DELETE IMMEDIATELY WHEN SOLD." CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Dallas Craigslist
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Post# 865270 , Reply# 27 2/2/2016 at 22:22 (2,998 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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ONe more -Vintage Magnavox Radio Phono Windsor Model 305 Ser
Vintage Magnavox Radio Phono Windsor Model 305 Series Rare Console - $1500 (Bucyrus, Ohio)
CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Mansfield Craigslist | ||
| Post# 865334 , Reply# 28 2/3/2016 at 11:34 (2,997 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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those are 2 beauties!
both cabinets are in gorgeous condition! Both high, but truly crazy price on the last one! The Dallas stereo unit above is particularly nice sounding, I had a very similar model about 10 years ago and it performed very well.
The Fisher Metropolitan was the BOL true console for '69, they did have a couple table-top type units priced below it. Here's a link to the brochure for 1969, fun to look at: s408.photobucket.com/user/torskdo... The models above had Garrard and Dual as you went up the line. If the cabinet on mine was better I might have tried to resuscitate it, but alas it is truly beyond redemption. After the mid-late '60s stereo cabinet quality declined precipitously. The entire bottom of the '69 I just picked up is cheap particle board and coming apart, probably due to damp garage or basement storage. Use of truly crappy and foul looking plastic moldings on speaker grilles and trim, also became common by the '70s. Well I've just learned of a ca. 1965 Maggie Astro Sonic in Early American here in Bingo with supposedly a very nice cabinet, so I may just have to check it out! | ||
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Post# 865518 , Reply# 29 2/4/2016 at 13:47 (2,996 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Magnavox Windsor
Hi Roger - particle board! Ugh, no wonder you walked away. It's hard enough to restore some of these consoles if they're a faux finish, as well.
Speaking of Windsors : and skip 1:02 to 1:32 to get to the better music. No stereo then but what would it take to incorporate an fm multiplex adaptor. Wrong site to ask this question. Astrosonics - solid state, right? Did those use germaniums? | ||
| Post# 865546 , Reply# 30 2/4/2016 at 17:32 (2,996 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Maganvox Windsor...
was not familar with those as I never paid much attention to most mono consoles... truly impressive, it had Stephens speakers and cost around $800! Stepehns had a reputation on par with Altec &c. in their time. However little was known about tuned port or acoustic suspension enclosure design back then, much less Theil parameters or other modern speaker physics principles, so audio performance was somewhat lacking, but it increased rapidly in the 1950s as these things became adapted.
One mono unit of the 1940s that I AM familiar with is the 1946 RCA Berkshire, probably the ultimate set ever made. Priced at around $3000 to 4000, depending on style. The beautiful Breakfront model Berkshire cabinets were made by Baker, who also made custom reproduction furniture for the White House!! (See pic: the electronics were totally concealed in the lower cabinet, opening the left door revealed the speaker, the right door the radio receiver). Electronics comprised 3 massive chrome-plated units: separate amplifier (4 x 6L6GC outputs for 50 watts) and power supply chassis, and radio receiver (with very early FM!) chassis. The speaker was the spectacular 15" Harry Olsen designed LC-1. Some Berkshire models included an early projection TV as well! Only about 250 were made and of course are super sought after by radio collectors today, although almost never for sale.
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Post# 865784 , Reply# 32 2/6/2016 at 08:07 (2,995 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Post# 865922 , Reply# 34 2/7/2016 at 07:25 (2,994 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Rex - Myself...I learned about your job earlier, since hanging out here for three years. Does your broadcast plant have a website online showing some of the old equipment and tubes? I still sw-listen, but not actively. World Radio and TV Handbook was my favorite - sorry they're online only now. I still have a couple older, last published issues - anyways, not to get too off topic started here, which are stereo consoles..thanks for the reminder that they went online along with Popular Communications and other sister pubs. I'll need a newer receiver to get all the other things, besides standard broadcasts like VOA, to pick up ship, police, etc -since so many have moved to other frequencies years ago.
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| Post# 865966 , Reply# 35 2/7/2016 at 11:20 (2,993 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Had no idea
that VOA still existed... very interesting.
So back to consoles - well, yesterday we went to check out the Maggie Astro Sonic that I mentioned above, and found out that folks have absolutely no concept of periods of design... unfortunately it was not Early American as was told to me, but Italian Provincial, not something the wife would permit in the house. Pity, because it was in decent shape, worked except for a slipping turntable drive wheel, and essentially free. It'd have to go in the LR, since we don't have the room to store it, so a No-Go proposition. I advised them to list it as Free on CL and hopefully it will be saved by somebody, but SS units still seem to be a hard sell, unless they are of MCM design. | ||
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Post# 865969 , Reply# 36 2/7/2016 at 11:25 (2,993 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Too bad
Many of the Italian Provincials got really e-e-uuuu-yoo-gli. But here's one that I wouldn't say "NO" to : from the Stromberg-Carlson brochure, 1962:
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| Post# 865974 , Reply# 37 2/7/2016 at 13:05 (2,993 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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that IS a pretty one...
am not opposed to IP per se, at least the more restrained ones similar to the one above. Some got rather over the top when plastic moldings became widely used as a cost cutting measure. There's tons of IP decor around here, as the big shoe factories attracted a huge influx of leather workers from Italy in the early 1900s. Still lots of stucco and vino trellises in the North side of Endicott here. When they'd get off the boat at Ellis Island the 1st thing they'd say upon landing was "Which way E-J?" (the gigantic Endicott-Johnson shoe factory, biggest in the world).
Anyhow, nowadays our den, dining room, and BR decor is transitioning from MCM to Early American of the 1950s variety, what I call Fauxlonial: maple hardwoods, copper, brick, eagles, weathervanes, and such... colonial kitschy and lots of fun - that stuff was everywhere when I was growing up in the '50/60s and still warms the cockles of my heart. For me it's very nostalgic and nice stuff ala Ethan Allan can still be picked up reasonably. So I'm looking for just the right Maple finish EA style console in mint condition. It'll show up eventually! | ||
| Post# 865975 , Reply# 38 2/7/2016 at 13:14 (2,993 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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gotta comment on your avatar Phil!
Secret Agent with Ian McGoohan (RIP) was BY FAR my most favorite show of the 60s!! I remember recording the theme off of TV on a little battery powered tape recorder, and later on bought the Johhny Rivers 45! I can still hum that harpsichord theme that always played in the background in SA. My 2ND favorite show was The Prisoner. Loved his Mini and Lotus Super 7 and Mini Moke in those shows!
Back to consoles, if anyone sees a nice Early American style console in the Northeast please post it here in Shoppers Square! | ||
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Post# 866008 , Reply# 39 2/7/2016 at 17:51 (2,993 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Patrick McGoohan | ||
| Post# 866111 , Reply# 41 2/8/2016 at 09:21 (2,992 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Prisoner...
Patrick of course, that's what happens when you get old, along with the aches, pains, and general deterioration of body as well as brain. Some days I'm lucky to remember my own name. I loved his role in 3 lives of Thomasina as well.
Rex - you're right, one will pop up when you least expect it. Though for a CG I'd look in a couple hundred mile radius and be willing to drive a bit for one, most likely to find in N Virginia or large city like Atlanta. IIWY I'd certainly take a look at a console from one of the well respected component manufacturers as well. Or do what I'll probably do, and look for the exact cabinet style I want with defective electronics and replace them a component tube receiver, in my case a Fisher 400, and a quality turntable that won't wreck LPs. | ||
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Post# 866121 , Reply# 42 2/8/2016 at 10:10 (2,992 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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VOA and links | ||
| Post# 866325 , Reply# 46 2/9/2016 at 10:10 (2,991 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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in my experience...
most of the blonde (limed oak) consoles tended to be mono, or to a much lesser extent, very early stereo, the latter would probably be lacking multiplex FM. They were relatively rare even then.
When we at the magazine put out our 2 volume "Vintage Hi-Fi Spotters Guide", besides components, in the 2nd volume we also included a few early '50s mono consoles and high end floor radios. A planned Vol 3 would have included later mono and stereo tube consoles. My publisher-friends's untimely death at age 59 put an end to that. Now that everything is online, publishing such an esoteric subject in paper format nowadays would be a losing proposition, albeit a fun project. I've thought about it but we didn't make much on the first 2 even in the "good old days" of special interest publishing. A planned color coffee table book on McIntosh Labs was also stillborn due to the high cost of quality color publication. Nowadays it would be outsourced to China. | ||
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Post# 866338 , Reply# 47 2/9/2016 at 11:35 (2,991 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Roger - ...sorry to hear these were the days that brought an end to projects looked to be completed. I found some help with Google book/magazine searches,which often tie into some of those old audio pubs.
I'm sure what you said about blonde consoles is true, with exceptions here and there. I don't own a blonde finish Motorola, but they did make a couple models which a guy shows off on youtube(he's an unusual cadence to his voice, fair warning): Those are not mono units, as an example of exceptions, and I've never seen too many Westinghouses, let alone what Hans is looking for. | ||
| Post# 866355 , Reply# 48 2/9/2016 at 14:00 (2,991 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Boy those Motorolas are beauties...
be proud to have one of those in our LR! I've always been of the opinion that the electronics in Motorola consoles were superior in design & execution in comparison to some of the other mass brands, at least that was true of the several Motorolas I've owned.
Oddly some of the less impressive consoles I've seen were from the really big boys, GE & RCA, whose size as companies dwarfed all the other makers of consoles, by far. They had a few decent models, and even some truly excellent components early on (1955-60), but for the most part they went on to use their vast engineering talents elsewhere, evidently. | ||
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Post# 866366 , Reply# 49 2/9/2016 at 14:52 (2,991 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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RESTORED Magnavox Imperial Console Stereo w/Turntable, Tube
RESTORED Magnavox Imperial Console Stereo w/Turntable, Tube Amplifier - $600 (Carrollton)
...to get back to almost a Concert Grand, but not the coveted Danish modern style: CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Dallas Craigslist | ||
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Post# 866367 , Reply# 50 2/9/2016 at 14:56 (2,991 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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'Nother one: 1959 Magnavox Imperial playing Skinnie Minn Craigslist ad : seattle.craigslist.org/see/msg/5... Other link shows unit playing old 50's Bill Halley song. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK
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| Post# 866375 , Reply# 51 2/9/2016 at 15:28 (2,991 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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I'm still lookin' for one... | ||
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Post# 866376 , Reply# 52 2/9/2016 at 15:35 (2,991 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Thanks | ||
| Post# 866431 , Reply# 54 2/10/2016 at 03:13 (2,991 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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I remember those When they were new, a great sounding unit. | ||
| Post# 866481 , Reply# 55 2/10/2016 at 12:49 (2,990 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Fabulous... | ||
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Post# 866518 , Reply# 56 2/10/2016 at 16:49 (2,990 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Jason -
Hi, do you happen to have the Allegro brochure that included your model? I'd like to find a complete brochure - will try audiokarma.org of course, but just wondered if you happened to have something easy to upload here?
Even though I'm typically contemporary and mcm in style/tastes, your unit looks good and the living room is really a time warp. Nice job! Phil | ||
| Post# 866665 , Reply# 57 2/11/2016 at 13:47 (2,989 days old) by maytog77 () | ||
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OVRPHIL...... I have the complete sales brochure....I will upload it...I bought it on ebay, it is the ONLY piece of sales material, or anything with my model I have found. | ||
| Post# 866668 , Reply# 58 2/11/2016 at 13:59 (2,989 days old) by maytog77 () | ||
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Part 2.... Of the 1973 Zenith booklet | ||
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Post# 866727 , Reply# 60 2/11/2016 at 21:08 (2,989 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Maytog77 -
Jason - This is extremely generous of you to post something you purchased. Not that I wouldn't equally do this, but thank you from me and anyone else who is looking at this thread. It's a fun brochure and brings back some memories of the many stereo places that existed at one time or department stores that had an array of different brands of stereos.
Just some comments - did you notice how this brochure, as many others I've seen in the 60's as well, are pitching these consoles more as furniture and tend to focus on the STYLE and always a name for the model. What about some details about the TT, am/fm/ amp/speakers on that same page? Similar story: I have a 1960/61(not sure which year yet) Stromberg-Carlson that I was lucky to find on CL. The brochure for the Stromberg-Carlson 1960-61 is online - don't have the link handy -but below is mine. Notice they emphasize style and you don't ever see the components which happen to be very high end. There are pages devoted to the components but they precede these models and styles(Provincial, Italian, Contemporary, etc....the list goes on) and it makes it harder to visualize what goes with what(no complaints, just noting). Zenith made some of the best stereos and tv's(my dad bought this brand most often). Thank you again, Jason - this brochure is awesome; wasn't expecting to get such a nice reply and so many pages. Take care.
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Post# 866729 , Reply# 61 2/11/2016 at 21:16 (2,989 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Hans -
I can really relate to your story. My dad hustled on the side to make extra money and the house we lived in had an upper flat (identical floorplan to first floor) that subsidized my dad's fetish for buying new cars every two years. Eventually, he did get some big Zenith stereo, but not til the mid-60's(monster Danish modern walnut Zenith TV/am/fm/TT console 72" long). My mom about had a heart attack when he had it delivered - all she said was, "you don't want to know what your father payed for this", and rolled her eyes. I came from modest means, too, and a color tv didn't land in our house til the late 60's /early 70's. Your story about that Stromberg-Carlson reminded me of the one I found. The second owner, who worked for the man who owned it originally(former Coca-Cola board member), said he would rattle the windows when he turned up the volume - half way!
Back to the Magnavox Concert Grand thread...and I wouldn't mind finding just an Imperial in lieu of a C.Grand. | ||
| Post# 867492 , Reply# 63 2/16/2016 at 16:03 (2,984 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Phil...
I had a similar '61-ish Stromberg console, and was so impressed by it that I began research on an article on history of S-C for the magazine I wrote for, never finished due to the demise of that publication. The acoustic labyrinth speaker design they had was unique and exclusive to S-C, ahead of it's time. If you take yours apart you'll find that the speaker drivers are in an internally isolated separate box composed of very heavy wax-impregnated cardboard that comprises the labyrinth chamber, itself mounted on thick fiber padding inside of the speaker enclosure part of the console cabinet itself, thus providing superior speaker-to- cabinet isolation as well as incorporating their Quarter Wave-Length Duct version of the Klipsch designed labyrinth acoustical path. No one else had anything like it in a console. S-C also made their own (RF series) speakers, uncommon in the console world, which were of very high quality, with red & chrome frames and large AlNiCo magnet structures. The ASR amplifier and SR tuner in their consoles were true S-C discrete components, identical to the separates they sold, and the RC-88 Garrard and Shure M-7d cartridge were well above average for consoles as well. IMO this S-C console should hold it's own sound-wise with any Concert Grand.
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Post# 867494 , Reply# 64 2/16/2016 at 16:27 (2,984 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Stromberg-Carlson
Hi Roger -I did learn something about it, after finding the S-C catalog for 1960-61 online. The individual components, speakers, and consoles - all the choices for 1960-61 are in that catalog. (will send you a brief email later with comments and links). I didn't know about the specific materials used, but I did remove the speakers to transport the console. It doesn't seem to have the available multi-plex for stereo, but I'm not sure how to identify if it has it or not. You've had a world of consoles and components. Thanks for the details!
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| Post# 867566 , Reply# 65 2/17/2016 at 09:33 (2,983 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
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Welcome!
just love sharing the love of this stuff, being more or less in the profession as writer/editor of an audio publication dedicated to vintage tube electronics (up to mid-60s), in addition to the day job, it was sort of a requirement to have owned, used, and fixed a lot of it, which, after 50 plus years, is a given! Nowadays several roomfuls are down to just a few pieces, which is to the good.
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