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What is the worst dishwasher you've ever owned? |
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Post# 827608   6/11/2015 at 20:27 (3,234 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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What is the worst dishwasher you've ever owned, and why? |
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Post# 827611 , Reply# 1   6/11/2015 at 20:32 (3,234 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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GE Nautilis that was in the cabin. God awful noisy and left crap all over everything. The guy I bought the cabin from was a chef which explained the double MT ovens and high output top. But he must have been used to having someone clean up after him. |
Post# 827622 , Reply# 2   6/11/2015 at 23:24 (3,233 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 827635 , Reply# 4   6/12/2015 at 01:48 (3,233 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Lord Kenmore can say with certainty that the worst dishwasher he's used is the one he is using now, and has, indeed, used most of his life: himself. Too many dishes have been broken. Some dishes haven't gotten as clean as they should on the first pass. His hands cannot tolerate water temps high enough to sanitize. And then there is the pure drudgery.
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Post# 827673 , Reply# 5   6/12/2015 at 09:03 (3,233 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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LordKenmore should instruct his minions to bring him a new modern DW forthwith |
Post# 827686 , Reply# 6   6/12/2015 at 10:43 (3,233 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)   |   | |
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Post# 827696 , Reply# 7   6/12/2015 at 11:33 (3,233 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Don't know that I've ever lived with a truly awful dishwasher. I'd say the weakest of the lot would probably be the 1974 Lady Kenmore. It didn't do a great job with pots/pans, but it had the groovy Roto-Rack which was fun. It rusted out relatively quickly, although my stepfather kept patching it. I graduated from high school in '77.
I moved back home after college to take care of my mom. When she passed away in '84, I purchased a TOL Kitchen Aid. It had timer/electronics problems---it quit on Thanksgiving when I had a houseful of people, of course---but it felt like a Cadillac compared to the tinny Kenmore. The KA heated the water before the first wash, and it cleaned pots/pans better than the Lady K. I have to say my favorite dishwasher was a TOL 2008 LG. Cavernous interior, very quiet, great cleaning, steam, heavy-duty racks, LED-lit interior, classy glass control panel. Unfortunately, a small crack in the drain hose gradually ruined part of the kitchen floor and underlayment which led to some expensive drama. It went to a new home at 5.5 years old. This post was last edited 06/12/2015 at 11:50 |
Post# 827701 , Reply# 8   6/12/2015 at 12:13 (3,233 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 827720 , Reply# 9   6/12/2015 at 14:57 (3,233 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 827724 , Reply# 10   6/12/2015 at 15:52 (3,233 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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I'll throw in another GE Nautilus to the pile of craps. Bought probably around '05-'06, my dad got a settlement check from a saga of disability/workman's comp fraud, and with part of that money he bought us a portable dishwasher, as our sink was the porcelain coated cast-iron variety that couldn't be cut or drilled into. I begged him to let me help choose it, but of course, I was a "kid" and knew nothing about what I was saying, and he brought home what would be a gigantic headache for myself and a point of argument between my parents and I.
First problem was its tendency to never fill to the point that it needed without choking on air, and our old clogged faucet didn't help it. The first few weeks of having it was torture, because I could hear the pump struggling and knew that water was barely moving around inside the tub, but try as I might to explain to my dad why it wasn't working properly, he told me to "just leave it alone and it was doing its job fine" despite the crud that would be left on dishes in the top rack. So, I had to devise a system, since I was the main one to do the dishes and laundry anyway, and this system was to pull the hand sprayer over at the beginning of each fill and put 45 seconds worth of water in manually. He finally realized something wasn't right when I showed him the difference between the water levels and how the machine performed, but it took three months of me doing that for him to get it. We replaced the sink faucet entirely, which restored water pressure and enabled the machine to fill properly, BUT it still didn't solve half the problems that dishwasher had. Not to mention it was loud, and was a pain to roll back and forth. I still to this day get annoyed even thinking about it, because at the time I had picked out a perfect portable Whirlpool PowerClean, which was slightly less expensive than the GE but would have been a leaps and bounds better performer, and quieter. Still, beg as I may, he would never let us try and return the GE, and to this day my mom now has it since he passed away, although it is built in at the house she's in now. |
Post# 827726 , Reply# 11   6/12/2015 at 16:19 (3,233 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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I can't say I've ever had a dishwasher that was awful. Just a couple that were beyond loud. One in particular was an old Hotpoint I had in my apartment in Tucson. I moved into it in 2010 and that dishwasher had to have been from the 80's, at least. It actually didn't work when I moved in but the handy man came by and fixed it. I thought I might have gotten a new dishwasher haha. I don't remember how it cleaned but man it would wake the dead. I'm thinking it was basically the GE Potscrubber. It had the metal buttons and all.
The other was in another apartment in NH. It was a mid 2000's Whirlpool. Pretty BOL with a manual dial. Again, wake the dead territory. lmao. Someday I'll get me a fancy machine. Either Bosch or KA. But for now I'm happy with my MOL Frigidaire Gallery. :) |
Post# 827729 , Reply# 12   6/12/2015 at 16:58 (3,233 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Has to be that stupid Auto-Chlor A-4 at my previous job. What a waste of stainless steel. The silly thing could not even wash glassware properly in less than 2 cycles. Dishes came out dirtier than they went in. I know this is true because when using a commercial DW I rinse very thouroughly.
The design was so bad that it wasted 3.5 gallons of water per rack, the door counterbalance chains broke and fell off all the time, the upper wash arm often fell off and broke dishes, it wasted a tremendous amount of chemicals and the drain sump was above the pump intake so you could never fully drain the dumb thing. The silver lining is that after3 years of nonstop pressure I got them to put in a Hobart. That made things much better. WK78 |
Post# 827748 , Reply# 13   6/12/2015 at 18:37 (3,233 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 827771 , Reply# 14   6/12/2015 at 21:01 (3,233 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Thanks mrb627, for reminding me of the only DW I came to hate more than the Auto-Suck. Shortly after I moved in with Katie that POS Hotpoint DW got stuck in the heating cycle, OVERNIGHT!
I started the stupid thing @ 2100 when we were going to bed, woke up @ 0230 to (drain the wash tank) and found the machine still running in the heating cycle! I temped the water or what was left of it @ 98.7C. Many plastic items had been deformed. (For comparison a commercial high temp conveyor DW washes @ 71C and rinses @ 82-86C) Needless to say that pile of shit was out on the curb and replaced with a WP PowerClean in short order. I now share a kitchen with Black Beauty. She is a wonderful KUDS-23 with classic Hobart style and a WP Powerclean wash system. It runs in the family as both my Grandmas had KDS-15's and my Mother had a KDP-20. My aunt also still has a WP PC9000 energy saver. WK78. |
Post# 827783 , Reply# 16   6/12/2015 at 23:00 (3,232 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN)   |   | |
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I was going to say the late-90s GE Profile plastic tub one that really wasn't that great and in spite of having some kind of "quiet pack" was really very noisy.
But instead, I think the honor of worst has to go to the early 2000s KA tall tub. It never really cleaned super-great (not living up to the KA reputation of my childhood one), and after phosphates were eliminated it pretty much started leaving some crud on everything. Especially the four corners of the top rack, which became no-load zones unless you wanted high-fiber glasses. Then it tried to catch on fire. Twice. It was finally lemoned out by Sears (yay extended warranty!) and I replaced it with a Bosch w/ built in softener. Never had a better dishwasher!! |
Post# 827814 , Reply# 17   6/13/2015 at 06:45 (3,232 days old) by gefilterflo (Newark, Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 827888 , Reply# 20   6/13/2015 at 19:18 (3,232 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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Never had a bad dishwasher (yet). Always bought Whirlpool Power Clean or Kenmore Ultra wash. |
Post# 827892 , Reply# 21   6/13/2015 at 19:26 (3,232 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Andrew, What does your sink being porcelainized cast iron and not able to be cut or drilled into have to do with having a portable dishwasher? Your dishwasher situation explains so much about the country's problems. |
Post# 827923 , Reply# 23   6/13/2015 at 22:22 (3,231 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Post# 827926 , Reply# 24   6/13/2015 at 22:42 (3,231 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 827984 , Reply# 26   6/14/2015 at 11:20 (3,231 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I am glad to have a dishwasher that can clean better than I can! |
Post# 827998 , Reply# 27   6/14/2015 at 12:44 (3,231 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Sponges are not good for kitchen cleaning because the smear stuff rather than remove it. I use a cotton waffle-weave dishcloth that is stored in the refrigerator between uses to keep the bacteria count down. |
Post# 828008 , Reply# 28   6/14/2015 at 14:07 (3,231 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 828040 , Reply# 30   6/14/2015 at 19:24 (3,231 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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>We replaced it with a MOL Maytag in 1994. I am sure that machine is still in operation in that house. It was built like a tank. It felt so sturdy and strong I felt like I could probably stand on the door while opened and not damage it. Not that I would ever consider doing that. It was much quieter than that Kenmore was and cost about the same $499.
How the mighty have fallen... I once lived in a place that had Maytag. Not sure how high in the line it was--I am guessing at lowest low-MOL. And the door felt downright flimsy. The door latch broke, and the machine probably had maybe a total use of what a normal family do in a year at that point. Not sure when that Maytag was made, but probably not too many years after that MOL 1994 mentioned above. |
Post# 828057 , Reply# 32   6/14/2015 at 23:11 (3,230 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 828068 , Reply# 33   6/15/2015 at 07:36 (3,230 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 828094 , Reply# 34   6/15/2015 at 13:52 (3,230 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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A Bomann (or as I called it Boo-man) buy-a-kitchen-get-the-dishwasher-free model that our landlord put in the kitchen. It wasn't a bad dishwasher as such, okay it was a noisy water guzzler, but it did wash alright and, since there was basically zero insulation around the tub, its condensation drying worked very well.
However, some idiot must have programmed the dishwasher and decided to exclude the interim rinse from every cycle. Result? Dirty water in the final rinse and me having custom-make cycles to get clean dishes. Oh, and it also leaked steam like crazy and the door seal came off all the time. If you look at the tub, you will see that GE and Whirlpool also sell this Chinese machine in the US.
Pic 1 - start of final rinse, if cycle wasn't manually rerun Pic 2 - the "clear" result Pic 3 - the door seal from hell Pic 4 - more seal trouble
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Post# 828137 , Reply# 35   6/15/2015 at 21:28 (3,229 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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FRIGISCARE FROM 2009
Quiet but with its tiny 1/8 HP motor, it was like putting a dirty load of dishes in the snk to soak before washing them in a dishwasher. It was fucked up the day I installed it. During shipping,one of its build in screws fell into the pump and Frigidaire sent a guy to fix it. He blamed me before seeing on the report his guys built it in for me. He replaced both motors. Easy to load,easy to operate but really,really poor results. This motor is so weak that it can't run both spray arms at the same time. :-( |
Post# 828197 , Reply# 38   6/16/2015 at 10:55 (3,229 days old) by Logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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AEG used to have a fast cycle that would only do a wash and one rinse but they changed that. I went to Bomann's homepage and downloaded a typical manual. It's prewash, main wash, rinse, dry in every cycle. Our machine used to do flushes (static fill and then drain) but it was worthless with the detergent/soil still sitting on the dishes.
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Post# 828199 , Reply# 39   6/16/2015 at 11:35 (3,229 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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The only successful one-rinse dishwasher I've ever witnessed is the PowerClean. I'm still amazed at how squeaky clean and sparkling everything is on a Normal cycle with its purge and the one thermal hold rinse. I pop the door open every now and again right before the final drain, and the water is always sparkling clear, no matter how filthy the dishes were when they went in.
Speaking of, since this was a subject of a previous post, I've gone back to solely using Cascade Complete pacs, and have gotten perfect results every time even with the 14 minute main wash. I love Finish, but the tablets are just too dense and compacted for me to feel comfortable using in the PC. And plus, we weren't sure where to lay the blame when it came to an odd wet-dog smell on glassware every few loads, but found out that it was egg!! Since then I scrub any egg remains from everything, and have yet to have a speck of problems. So, though I know this is probably common knowledge to some, don't ever wash anything with raw egg on it, or you'll quickly notice the smell of soggy dog farts when you go to take a drink of water from that glass you just pulled out! |
Post# 828201 , Reply# 40   6/16/2015 at 12:06 (3,229 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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I remember when I once worked for somebody (all I did was checking bills), the glasses I'd bedn using had a soup kind of smell. Don't know what it was until today, but she had a close TOL Miele (the model with the rotary knob to select programms) and ran it on Auto and Eco most of the times. |
Post# 829054 , Reply# 41   6/22/2015 at 17:13 (3,223 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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When I bought my house there were 2 Maytag dishwashers in the kitchen (Kosher) installed new in 1999/2000. I loved them. They were easy to load, had a variety of cycles and made a quiet "swoosh" sound when running. When my ritzy friends purchased a home in Rancho Mirage the first thing they did was replace all of the built-in appliances with stainless steel. Heaven forbid someone would see their kitchen with dead-common white stuff. The seller had replaced the dishwasher with a new Bosch unit with hidden controls which had never been used. Before the dealer offered to do them a favor and haul it away I asked if I could have it. I installed it next to the main kitchen sink and replaced the still-new Maytag in the island with a small cabinet and a Monogram ice machine. I gave both of the Maytags to mobile home friends that needed them. I also gave the Profile side by side and the Profile gas cooktop to friends too and helped them install all of them. I couldn't stand to see perfectly nice appliances scraped.
The Bosch dishwasher is very quiet. It's difficult to tell if it's running, however I liked the gentle "swoosh" of the Maytag. The Bosch has a clumsy lower rack that's difficult to load. I don't think very much thought was given to designing it, but it was free. As I have mentioned here before, I use the dishwasher once every 2 or 3 months. My daily "load" would consist of a plate, maybe a small bowl, a glass and coffee cup and a fork and spoon. If I waited until I accumulated a full load the inside of the dishwasher would look and smell like a penicillin factory. There's the 2 dog dishes but I wouldn't put those in the dishwasher anyway...poison dog germs.
"My lips touched dog lips! Poison dog lips!"
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Post# 829244 , Reply# 42   6/23/2015 at 17:30 (3,222 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Was GE made Dishwashers. Everyone I used was horrible at cleaning, and food particles would always redeposit on everything in the top rack. Rinsing wasn't good either especially when the mechanism was deliberately designed to retain a half gallon of water. Only thing I liked about them was the Potscrubber Cycle (from a long hot wash feature standpoint other machines tend to lack) and excellent drying, but in everything else they were awful. Noisy too especially for something as simple as a water fill you would think would be quiet.
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Post# 829351 , Reply# 43   6/24/2015 at 11:41 (3,221 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 890416 , Reply# 45   7/22/2016 at 07:09 (2,827 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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I don't know who made it. It wasn't a horrible dishwasher, but it was the worst out of all the ones I've lived with. Thinking back, the dishwashers I've lived with were a GE potscrubber growing up - A 1984 Whirlpool my grandma had. In 1995 I moved to Knoxville TN to an apartment which had a magic chef dishwasher. I think it must have been at least ten years old or more in 1995. Then for a short time I lived in a duplex which had a Kenmore branded OLD dishwasher which reminded me so much of the magic chef. Everything else I've had has been more modernish Kenmore/Whirlpool.
I can't remember exactly what it looked like, but looking around on the net, they looked A LOT like this picture if I remember correctly. Perhaps it's just that they were so freaking old at the time I used them....I remember examining them looking like they had endured years of use..
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Post# 890530 , Reply# 47   7/23/2016 at 00:37 (2,826 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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sized dishwashers, but that was the look they had. What is DM? I forgot about that but I think I remember seeing that past company mentioned here before. I forgot all about them. I honestly can't think of a horrible awful dishwasher that I've ever had....Even these were OK to me, just not as good as the later model kenmore/whirlpools/Ge's I had been used to using.
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Post# 890554 , Reply# 49   7/23/2016 at 06:42 (2,826 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 890557 , Reply# 50   7/23/2016 at 06:49 (2,826 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Design Manufacture inc. They made Caloric, Kenmore before Whirlpool or Frigidaire, some Modern maid, and a few other brands of dishwashers such as that Magic Chef. |
Post# 890613 , Reply# 51   7/23/2016 at 14:45 (2,826 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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I apologize for sounding smug, but I've always had whirlpool power clean module dishwashers. So I haven't had a worse dishwasher😉 |
Post# 890727 , Reply# 55   7/24/2016 at 09:39 (2,825 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Whirlpool....Replaced it with a bol Hotpoint which was WORLDS better! |
Post# 890840 , Reply# 56   7/25/2016 at 06:21 (2,824 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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Profile also has nylon racking. My old Whirlpool Gold's racks rusted, and ruined my old everyday dishes. |
Post# 890851 , Reply# 57   7/25/2016 at 08:05 (2,824 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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If we could discuss the BEST dishwasher it would be my Maytag that I have now--there is not a thing that it DOESN'T clean! (I recently had a bowl of wild raspberries that grow in our back yard on some ice cream--the berries were heated in the microwave & I made a berry milkshake, too--in which the bowl, (well, maybe I should have had some cake to help me scrape the berry residue from that bowl my sundae was in) mug and blender glass all came out spotless & clean...
If we were to have kept that bottom-of-the-line Bradford portable any longer than we had, it would surely rank as the worst--I think that had a universal D&M design; a photo of the inside was very familiar looking in my HOW TO BUY MAJOR HOME APPLIANCES book that shows it compared to a Kitchen Aid dishwasher interior... (Photo of it was shown, too...) And a Kitchen Aid Superba control panel photo is also shown in the chapter on 'How To Buy Dishwashers'...
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Post# 890871 , Reply# 58   7/25/2016 at 11:03 (2,824 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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Post# 890905 , Reply# 59   7/25/2016 at 15:30 (2,824 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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OK, any that wouldn't get rid of what wild black raspberries left:
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Post# 891012 , Reply# 60   7/26/2016 at 04:34 (2,823 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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I always was so disappointed in the past when looking for a place to rent, and seeing a dishwasher that only had ONE KNOB. LOL - I knew whoever put it in put in the most BOL dishwasher - but after using them, I really could NOT complain..It was MILES better than being without a dishwasher. I would NOT live anywhere that did not have one. It could be the most beautiful place ever, but if it didn't have one, I would pass. In other words, give me the worst dishwasher I've ever had ANY DAY over not have a dishwasher at all.
As for best dishwasher - it would be my current Maytag from 2014. LOVE IT. However, the only thing that makes it better than the WP/Kenmores I've used from the past is the fact that it's all stainless and holds more dishes, and I doubt it will last 30 years like my grandmas 1984 WP dishwasher. Seriously, I cleaned it with citric acid like I do every six months or so, and you could hear water sloshing around like a hurricane inside because it was empty. |
Post# 891046 , Reply# 62   7/26/2016 at 07:49 (2,823 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Chinoe Creek Apartments in Lexington. I was on the bottom floor, with a floor above me and a floor above that one. They had Hotpoint dishwashers from the 80s (from what I could tell) they had to be at least from the early to mid 80s, but they were pretty good.
Off topic story. The lady above me had a child who threw toilet paper off their balcony and it landed in front of mine, making it looks as if I was doing it. It was a toddler I'm pretty sure. Anyway, it was a 2 bathroom apt, and one day, I heard water dripping fast and I ran into the spare bathroom and water started POURING from the bathroom vent fan. I ran upstairs and BEAT on their door and NO ONE answered! I knew they were there though. The water had a bleach smell to it, but the kid had thrown toilet paper in the toilet and stopped it up. Me being a neat/clean freak, that was the maddest I EVER remember being in my life. The apt maintenance said that this was their 3rd and final warning, so apparently they had been warned before we moved in there. After that, a college kid moved in up there (this was 2002) he smoked, threw butts off his balcony that landed in front of mine. One night, there was a party up there and it was so loud. There had to be 20 people there, a fight broke out - it sounded like all 20 people were jumping up and down it was so loud, they ended up going out the front door, still fighting, yelling really LOUD. I called the police and others around had too. Then, the college guy came down to my house drunk knocking on my door and telling me how sorry he was and he was drunk and kept falling on me. This was like 230 am. He wasn't there long before someone else moved in and they were very quiet, but then we had an ice storm and were without power for 7 days. That was my worst rental experience. I was never so glad to move into my new house in 2004 |
Post# 891226 , Reply# 64   7/27/2016 at 08:05 (2,822 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 891322 , Reply# 65   7/27/2016 at 21:02 (2,822 days old) by ilovewindex (Tualitan OR)   |   | |
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Post# 891354 , Reply# 66   7/28/2016 at 05:33 (2,821 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 891371 , Reply# 67   7/28/2016 at 08:32 (2,821 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)   |   | |
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rent either. Had best be fairly nice. |
Post# 891415 , Reply# 68   7/28/2016 at 12:27 (2,821 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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getting the back side of the apartment. That view was awesome. It's an older apartment complex though, but the ground were very well maintained. Too bad about the people above. From what I see, they have upgraded a lot. The faucets, stove, dishwasher, and the walls look wallpapered. At the time in 2002, I can't remember, but I think the rent was 750/month, 2 bed/2 bath. Now it's much higher from what I see. There was a small Kroger shopping center within walking distance, literally right beside the apt complex - I remember that being very convenient. Looking at those pictures of the kitchen, I see they upgraded the dishwasher one knob wonder and BOL stoves.
I remember that layout so well.
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Post# 891555 , Reply# 69   7/29/2016 at 14:19 (2,820 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 891594 , Reply# 70   7/29/2016 at 20:13 (2,820 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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