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Post# 828687   6/19/2015 at 21:41 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Canyon could sense it...   He seems to be saying "Daddy put me in charge while he's away so you're not allowed any more new appliances!"


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Post# 828688 , Reply# 1   6/19/2015 at 21:42 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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As if I listen to the dog... LOL  

 

Something sure does look like it's turquoise, though... 


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Post# 828689 , Reply# 2   6/19/2015 at 21:44 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Taa-Daa!!

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Yes, I DO feel like a queen with my 'new' 1959 Custom Imperial automatic washer!


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Post# 828690 , Reply# 3   6/19/2015 at 21:46 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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AND the almost-matching 59 Frigidaire Imperial Dryer!

 

Canyon seems concerned that it's not a Filtrator, however... 


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Post# 828691 , Reply# 4   6/19/2015 at 21:52 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
The backstory...

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If anyone recognizes them, yes, they did belong to Greg (gansky1).   I finally managed to arrange shipping a few weeks ago and they made their way from Nebraska to upstate Vermont.  With Phil's help, we picked up the machines and got them across the border this afternoon.  

 

Of course I had to try them out - Phil has some videos that I'll bug him to post...  The washer has one wee issue - when the pulsator starts to move, a loud 'clattering' noise is heard.  Phil knew what this was right away and he was able to get the machine to agitate, however a permanent solution will require a new part.  We're on the hunt and I hope to get the WCI humming again and washing in the Ogden laundry really soon!

 

Pending a little further tinkering, the washer will be waiting for me in the garage. 


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Post# 828692 , Reply# 5   6/19/2015 at 21:58 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Now, the dryer didn't seem to have any damage in transit (although I'm going to need a new lint filter screen - methinks some critters got into the old one!), so I threw caution to the wind and moved it right into the Ogden laundry. 

 

I had to install a Canadian-style power cord (remembering to disconnect the ground to neutral); piece of cake!  But the dryer vent... OY!  There was a reason Frigidaire pushed the Filtrator... The Flowing Heat model's vents are a royal pain in the derrière to install.  You have to take the back access panel off and make darn sure the vent hose clamp doesn't rub against the idler pulley...  

 

However, everything went back together and the dryer runs perfectly and has taken up its place in the Ogden laundry.  The 56 Whirlpool is acting as place-filler until I can get the washer in place.  


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Post# 828694 , Reply# 6   6/19/2015 at 22:08 (3,231 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
And here's a precedent for me...

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Sigh... For the past couple of years, every time I get a new machine Hubby and I have the same conversation:

 

(July 2013 - upon arrival of the '57 Hotpoint washer)

 

Hubby:  You know, Robert says 'one in one out'...

 

Turquoisedude:  Yes, dear.   Yes, dear.   Yes, dear.  Ooops!  You stopped talking didn't you?

 

(January 2014 - upon arrival of the '47 Bendix)

 

Hubby:  Um, doesn't Robert say 'one in one out'?

 

Turquoisedude:  Yeah, sure they will.... 

 

(June 2014 - upon arrival of the '53 GE automatic)

 

Hubby:  What about 'one in one out'?  Isn't that Robert's rule?

 

Turquoisedude: Whatever you say, dear (flips Hubby off and leaves room)

 

(July 2014 - upon arrival of the '51 Frigidaire)

 

Hubby:  May I remind you that Robert says 'one in one out'.  And don't flip me off!

 

Turquoisedude:  Oh, really, if Robert said 'jump off a bridge' would you expect me to?

 

Hubby:  Just a minute.  (he picks up telephone receiver)  Long-distance, please.  Minneapolis, Minnesota. 

 

And so on... 

 

But I am seriously going to be making an effort to trim down the collection.  I've decided I'm going to concentrate on the 50s machines I have (most of which need work).  I hope this will give me the incentive to get the work done. 

 

So as the sun sets on Ogden, we bid farewell to the '63 Canadian Frigidaire washer and '62 Canadian Frigidaire dryer as they set off for a new home with Phil.  

 

 


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Post# 828707 , Reply# 7   6/20/2015 at 00:09 (3,231 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        
One In, One Out

Congrats Phil! Those are really nice. I hope you have a lot of fun with them.

I feel your pain with the in/out "rule". My partner says the same thing to me each time a bring "rareness" home! That's why I had to give away my GE washer. I'm glad you found a home for your other Frigidaire's.

Enjoy!


Post# 828709 , Reply# 8   6/20/2015 at 00:18 (3,231 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Actually I just had a new experience, one out and NONE in!! But don't let Chris seeing me saying that LOL ;-D

The recycler found that dryer for me around 1998. I loved it, it has a lower air flow so it's slightly slower, but it makes for very soft clothes and towels. The auto-dry is really accurate. It was hard to give it up, but it went to Greg's so it was very well taken care of!

The recycler also found the '59 washer for me in white in 1997. The control panel on that machine was in mint condition and that is what is actually on your turquoise machine now.

Enjoy the new arrivals.


Post# 828714 , Reply# 9   6/20/2015 at 01:21 (3,231 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Now I have to get some things out!!

Post# 828722 , Reply# 10   6/20/2015 at 06:21 (3,231 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Could you please get some good close up shots of the control panel for both the washer and dryer please?

Thank you!


Post# 828729 , Reply# 11   6/20/2015 at 07:28 (3,231 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
One In One Out

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My Brother Jeff's partner Cal always says which TWO are leaving every time we bring a new appliance over to their home, but it has never happened, LOL.


Post# 828746 , Reply# 12   6/20/2015 at 08:26 (3,231 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
"Multi-tragic" mechanism.

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I'm glad you got the machines safe and sound! I know you'll enjoy them and being in a state of "over-collected" here, it makes for a couple more gaps. I'm trying to get to the point that I only have as many machines as I have spaces to use them. There are still a couple of machines that are waiting for tickets to their new homes.

What part is it that you need for the washer? I may have a few more parts here, I thought I had them all in one place to send with the machine but then didn't see them in the box when I was packing them up.

The washer is a bit like the story of Johnny Cash's One Piece At A Time. I stripped the white washer of Robert's for the panel and used some of the mechanism parts. Rebuilt two of the transmission cases (from Robert's 1959 and a '60) and put them into a turquoise cabinet that I brought home from the South Dakota Sacred Appliance Burial Ground. The only tub I had at the time was from the farm and literally destroyed from exposure. Frigidaire tubs did not hold up for long on the farm. I replaced the ballast filling in the ring with cement and then had the tub sandblasted to remove all the old porcelain. I painted the bare metal tub with silver POR-15. The paint worked perfectly and was actually pretty cool looking (like stainless steel) but the ballast ring was never quite right and it always spun a bit rough. After Robert and I met Bruce in Tulsa, OK, I brought home a good tub for the 59 washer from a 1960 machine - that tub is in there now. I gathered new parts from a few sources over the years, ebay, etc.

The dryer does need a new lint filter- age was not a friend of that mesh in a warm and moist use like that. When I got the dryer from Robert, the motor had a little trouble getting going and sometimes you had to give the drum a push to get it running. It worked this way for a while and then I found a NIB motor and replaced it. Frigidaire airflow dryers have always been a favorite, a bit slow but very quiet and wonderfully soft results. They are also some of the most accurate automatic controls (temp controlled) I've ever used in a dryer.










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Post# 828775 , Reply# 13   6/20/2015 at 11:05 (3,231 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
NICE MACHINES

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and FAST shipping to say the least !!

 

What was knocking were you missing a spring for the live water action detergent dispenser??

 

 


Post# 828782 , Reply# 14   6/20/2015 at 12:46 (3,231 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Very short videos!

Paul's 1959 Multimatic:





1959 Frigidaire Custom Imperial washer:




Post# 828790 , Reply# 15   6/20/2015 at 14:06 (3,231 days old) by bvf ()        
lucky guys

I dont find any washers and dryers in this color ..but I find stoves and fridges..maybe one day..what a beautiful set you have wash only clean clothes in it.. Ill probably win the lottery before this color…..

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Post# 828856 , Reply# 16   6/21/2015 at 06:17 (3,230 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        
Such beautiful machines!

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have lots of fun with them! ... if any pair is worth losing a couple others over when following Robert's Rule, these are it!

Post# 828871 , Reply# 17   6/21/2015 at 09:13 (3,230 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow! It seems I've got a piece of automaticwasher.org history in my very own laundry room!  Phil had asked if the washer had been saved from the old Aberdeen Farm and I wasn't sure.  And knowing the dryer was saved from being turned into a Kia is justification for having it for sure!!

 

Here are some photos, Qualin - my photography skills are poor at best (my hands shake way too much, alas...) but I've picked the best of the close-ups.   Note that the lettering on the heat selection guide is a bit faded. 

 

Here are some of the dryer.  I can't wait to try out the automatic cycles - I should perhaps do a side-by-side test with the '65 Lady K dryer before she moves to her new home in St-Liboire. 

 

One question, though - I see that the 'sprinkle' cycle is done on regular heat (although probably only for a very short time judging from the timer dial).  The sprinkle setting on the '57 GE dryer is done on the no-heat 'fluff' section of the timer.  Never having used a dryer sprinkler before, I was curious about what the difference was... 


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Post# 828872 , Reply# 18   6/21/2015 at 09:14 (3,230 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Washer close-ups (including the 'money shot' that I neglected to provide - shame on me...):


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Post# 828874 , Reply# 19   6/21/2015 at 09:23 (3,230 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Greg, about the parts (and again, thank you for the 'care package' you sent along with the machines!), you did include what Phil suspects to be the part that's causing the agitation chatter.  This is it, the bearing plate that I think is above the agitate pulley - Phil did explain it to me but I think I was busily daydreaming of watching laundry roll over in live-water action, 1959-style... 

 

The problem is likely because of wear on the tabs on the top of the bearing - if they are very badly worn, they won't engage to the agitate shaft (again, please correct me if I got that wrong).  They could be rubbing just below and thus causing the clatter that reminds me of a bad flywheel trying to engage with a car starter. 

 

We'll have to take the one in the machine out to assess it, but Phil's already suggested that I should try and find a new one.  Phil was very fortunate to have made the acquaintance of an ex-Frigidaire dealer (who is also almost as big a Frigidaire fan as Phil is) and this gentlemen shared a lot of service advice and pitfalls with Phil.  I'll have to look him up myself, I think!!


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Post# 828878 , Reply# 20   6/21/2015 at 09:32 (3,230 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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The part that's under the bearing in which those tabs engage (the bearing is pictured upside-down) is also likely to be damaged that's the part we need to look for!



Post# 828890 , Reply# 21   6/21/2015 at 12:17 (3,230 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
sprinkler?

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Did a spray of water enter the dryer at (what location?)some point, then? I don't understand what this feature enabled.

The color looks less greenish-turquoise and more blue-aqua. Which?

Beautiful Frigidaire washer and dryer.



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Post# 828926 , Reply# 22   6/21/2015 at 17:43 (3,230 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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On these dryers, the sprinkler nozzle was located in the center of the drum bearing. The sprinkler didn't rotate with the drum.

Images are worth 1000 words so have a look at the sprinkler in my '65 Filtrator. The following year, it was relocated at the front of the drum as the new electronic moisture sensor took that place at the back of the drum.


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Post# 828954 , Reply# 23   6/21/2015 at 23:05 (3,229 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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it's adding moisture to the clothes to achieve a less dry result?

Post# 828958 , Reply# 24   6/22/2015 at 00:02 (3,229 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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It's "sprinkling" the dry clothes to help prepare them to be ironed. 


Post# 828961 , Reply# 25   6/22/2015 at 00:08 (3,229 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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It's apparently if you want to iron clothes that are dry. The sprinkler dampens them before you iron them.
I don't iron anything (I just wear clothes with wrinkles!) so I don't see what I could use it for! I did try once to put heavily wrinkled clothes in the dryer and I used the sprinkler just to see if that would help at removing the wrinkles.
It didn't do anything bad but didn't help much, I got damp clothes which still had some wrinkles and I didn't bother ironing them after!


Post# 828980 , Reply# 26   6/22/2015 at 04:02 (3,229 days old) by midcentnurse (Lake Charles, La)        

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Those are fabulous! Exactly what I'm looking for when we finally move in the new place.. Love it!!

Post# 828985 , Reply# 27   6/22/2015 at 06:36 (3,229 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The sprinkler setting provides 5 minutes of heat before the 10 minute mark which begins the cooldown for the wash and wear drying cycle which began at the 30 minute mark. The 5 minutes of heat helps distribute the moisture in the fabrics being sprinkled, but they still should be rolled up and wrapped in plastic and allowed to sit before ironing. Mom used to put sprinkled and/or starched clothes in the refrigerator in the summer to allow the moisture to permeate everything while not encouraging mold growth. I guess that in the winter, the basement was cool enough that molding or souring was not a problem. If you find that the 15 minute setting for sprinkle produces garments too dry for ironing, you can always use the Fluff setting.

The wash and wear drying cycles were timed back then so that the users would have an idea of when to return to the dryer to remove the garments before the tumbling stopped.

Note that the Delicate setting in the auto dry is in the middle because it is used with the low heat setting and it takes longer to trip the thermostat which causes the timer to advance.


Post# 828987 , Reply# 28   6/22/2015 at 06:45 (3,229 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Looking good

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Looking good there Phil!
Love the colour

Cheers
Leon


Post# 829012 , Reply# 29   6/22/2015 at 11:51 (3,229 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Very, very nice!  Glad to see these in your (good) hands!

 

Ben


Post# 829033 , Reply# 30   6/22/2015 at 15:56 (3,229 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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WOW Paul, those are just awesome, CONGRATS!!

Kevin


Post# 829619 , Reply# 31   6/26/2015 at 04:33 (3,225 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Thank you very much for posting those pictures.

Post# 829632 , Reply# 32   6/26/2015 at 06:28 (3,225 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Tom

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thanks for answering a long old question - why they put Delicate where they did! I could never figure that one out. GE did that too on the Combos.

 


Post# 829643 , Reply# 33   6/26/2015 at 07:26 (3,225 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Another Use For That Sprinkler

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Starched laundry is best hung to dry. If a tumble dryer is used the items must be more heavily starched than otherwise.

To solve this problem many housewives let their starched items line dry, then bung the lot into the dryer with a sprinkler. This saved one from having to do that chore manually.


Post# 829741 , Reply# 34   6/26/2015 at 18:20 (3,225 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
CONGRATULATIONS!!

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On the beautiful turquoise Frigidaire set you got! They look AMAZING!

I can't wait until you get the washer thumping away nice & smoothly!!

Looking forward to seeing your updates!
Sharing in your enthusiasm & excitement!!

;o)


Post# 833615 , Reply# 35   7/24/2015 at 16:19 (3,197 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Update on the '59 Custom Imperial washer

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I went out to the garage today, hooked up the drain and water inlet hoses, plugged it in, and....  It works!!  

 

The washer appears to have miraculously fixed itself!!   Maybe those elves I trapped as a child have finally learned the basics of appliance repairs.  LOL 

 

It's washing quietly and spinning perfectly!!    Who'd a thunk while Phil and I were busy noshing on ribs and salad last night that the machine would fix itself??

 

Well, back to reality, folks...  I have to say a big thank you to Phil for his help and expertise in replacing that plate on the agitate pulley yesterday in record time.  I'm somehow managing to resist the urge to get this beauty down the Ogden Laundry where the '59 Imperial dryer is pining for its return.     I'm still ecstatic and I can't wait to do a maiden wash in it... 

 

 


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Post# 833649 , Reply# 36   7/24/2015 at 18:46 (3,197 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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So you did a test with water today?! 


Post# 833714 , Reply# 37   7/25/2015 at 06:40 (3,196 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That Phil is a

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wonder !!

 

 


Post# 833717 , Reply# 38   7/25/2015 at 06:49 (3,196 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Phil,  I did a full cycle test and it passed with flying colours!! 

 

Jon, that 'care package' you sent me back from Melrose with was a godsend - thank you again!  And whenever you want, come see it in person, eh??



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