Thread Number: 60682
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Kenmore 80 series question/story |
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Post# 833202   7/21/2015 at 22:18 (3,172 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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So a friend of mine bought a used kenmore 80 series washer from a local appliance store.
Model 110.20802 Serial 20002990 She specifically wanted a washer with a warm rinse option, and liked that this machine offered that, and a second rinse option. After hooking up and running a load, we noticed that while on warm/ warm the machine would not give warm rinse? Wash temp works for hot, warm, and cold, but only cold comes out for rinse, no matter where the temp switch is set. The machine came with a 90 day warranty. So I called the store, and they said a service tech would call back.. He did and talked to me! He said that there was nothing wrong with the temp switch that I'll never get a warm rinse! I explained that the machine had 7 position temp switch, that included warm rinse, and that Whirlpool wouldn't put a 7 position temp switch on this model if only three positions could be used. He maintained that I never get a warm rinse, with or without a new switch. So here's my question.. Is there any truth to what he says? And if I order a new switch.. I'm I correct that the part number for the temp switch is 661615. Also anyone know the age of this machine? Here's the best pic I can find of the control panel from anther machine
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Post# 833205 , Reply# 1   7/21/2015 at 22:34 (3,172 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833214 , Reply# 3   7/22/2015 at 02:06 (3,172 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833222 , Reply# 4   7/22/2015 at 03:21 (3,172 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 833240 , Reply# 5   7/22/2015 at 07:07 (3,172 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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On some models like this the Warm rinse is only about 60-70 degrees F so the warm rinse setting will not be as warm as the warm wash setting. So the machine may be working correctly if your cold water is not below 60F it will only fill with cold water. [ of course there is absolutely no reason to rinse clothing in anything warmer than 60F water, it not good for the clothing, not good for the washer or the environment ]
Get a copy of the owners manual to see how this model is supposed to work, we can date the machine if you get me the correct serial #, the serial # always starts with a letter.
John L. |
Post# 833252 , Reply# 6   7/22/2015 at 08:15 (3,172 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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this is the trick.....for the most part, who really checks the rinse temp, they set the machine and walk away, only to return to a tub of warm clothing to be removed.....and leave it at that.....
roughly about 2002 or so.....and without noticing, except for people like us......a WARM rinse is available, but note, it is the spray rinse of the last spin that is WARM, not the deep fill for the rinse!.....energy saving qualifications...... I quickly noticed this on a whirlpool I had at the time that came with the new house.....in that the rinse filled with cold.....yet the load was warm once they spun out..... here a downside.....if your water heater is too far away from the machine, the spray will not be warm, by the time the hot water reaches the machine, the spray has shut off..... same goes for some of the newer versions, at least a whirlpool I got to work on.....you could select a HOT wash, but it only fills for 60 seconds with hot, the rest is temp controlled WARM, not a true hot wash in my opinion......but for the average consumer, they are loading clothes and turning on the machine, adding detergents as it fills, they note hot water filling, proceed to close the lid, and go about their way....never noticing that it did not fill completely with hot water....stopping the machine and turning the timer completely around will not reset the setting.... sorry to say, but that machine is working properly.....not in the way you would think, but it is doing what it was designed to do.......saving energy, and giving you what you think to be a warm rinse.... your only other choice is to return it for an older version of this machine...I am going to guess something before 2000 for a true deep fill warm rinse..... that is a well featured and beautiful machine just the same..... |
Post# 833268 , Reply# 7   7/22/2015 at 10:16 (3,172 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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Yep, pretty sure Malcolm and Yogi speak the truth. My TOL Kendaire does the same thing. If you choose a "warm" rinse you get the spray rinse (one) only. The deep rinse is still cold. |
Post# 833294 , Reply# 10   7/22/2015 at 14:53 (3,172 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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I love to "insta-fact" when I have no real clue, BUT, Fixer, why couldn't the timer increment for the spray rinse energize both valves, and the timer increment for the deep rinse just energize the cold valve. |
Post# 833306 , Reply# 12   7/22/2015 at 16:27 (3,172 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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I'll try and get over today and check what's been suggested so far!
And the double check that serial number, and get back here with results. @thefixer.. Could it still be just as simple as a bad temp switch, or are you inclined to think it the other possible problems you've mentioned? What more likely? |
Post# 833315 , Reply# 14   7/22/2015 at 17:35 (3,172 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Model is 100. 20802990
Ser is ck 3566663 So far it wash fills with warm on either ATC or non. While filling on warm, I turned the hot valve off and fill changed to cold.. That as far as I've gone so far. Waiting for it to spray rinse on WW and see what that is. I'll runs the hot valve to the sink next to the washer just before and see what temp it sprays.. To be continued LOL |
Post# 833316 , Reply# 15   7/22/2015 at 17:51 (3,172 days old) by thefixer ()   |   | |
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Yep, 2000 model as indicated by model number. Serial number narrows it down to being built in August of 2000. |
Post# 833328 , Reply# 16   7/22/2015 at 19:54 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833335 , Reply# 18   7/22/2015 at 20:59 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Ive learned a lot here. Mainly that there is a definite reason that there is a 7 position temp switch, despite what the service tech was trying to wiggle out of
I've have a 80 series different model that dose do a spray rinse after wash, and if WW is selected it sprays warm. Mines a model 2382100. Have another friend with a older 70 series and she has HW temp option! I'll be back with the results on this one! Thanks again |
Post# 833341 , Reply# 20   7/22/2015 at 21:28 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833343 , Reply# 21   7/22/2015 at 21:30 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833349 , Reply# 23   7/22/2015 at 22:16 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833379 , Reply# 24   7/23/2015 at 06:08 (3,171 days old) by thefixer ()   |   | |
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That model number does not come up at all at the Sears parts site. |
Post# 833411 , Reply# 25   7/23/2015 at 11:14 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833412 , Reply# 26   7/23/2015 at 11:16 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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Post# 833415 , Reply# 27   7/23/2015 at 11:34 (3,171 days old) by thefixer ()   |   | |
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Same wiring diagram and timer chart as the first number you gave. |
Post# 833420 , Reply# 29   7/23/2015 at 12:31 (3,171 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 833443 , Reply# 31   7/23/2015 at 16:08 (3,171 days old) by stan (Napa CA)   |   | |
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I mentioned above.. I've learned a lot here on this thread about Kenmore/ Whirlpool top loaders! I had thought that try all functioned pretty much the same, and until this machine, didn't know they had a ACT, or that there was a model that did a different spray rinse other than what was selected.
I think "think" being the operative term here.. That I've narrowed it down to a bad temp switch. So I'll order the switch for her and give it a go. I'm I correct that the part # for the switch is 661.615? Thanks fixer! |
Post# 833450 , Reply# 32   7/23/2015 at 17:12 (3,171 days old) by thefixer ()   |   | |
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The correct part number is 661615. What did you do to determine for sure that the temp switch is the problem? |
Post# 833471 , Reply# 33   7/23/2015 at 19:53 (3,170 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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one other unique feature to some of these machines, was the timer knob that could be turned in either direction, just like the dryer...
the only advantage was there was no damage should the user accidentally try to turn it backwards.... although came in handy if you wanted to extend the wash time, rather than turn the timer completely around......or if you passed your setting... |
Post# 833628 , Reply# 36   7/24/2015 at 16:52 (3,170 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Sears advertised these machines as 3.2 cubic foot capacity. The ELITE model panels stated KING SIZE CAPACITY....while the Kenmore Models said Super Capacity Plus...... Hope this helps. Mike |
Post# 833630 , Reply# 37   7/24/2015 at 16:54 (3,170 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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This is what Sears called your agitator! |