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New speed queen awn432 fill adjustment details?
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Post# 834613   7/31/2015 at 09:14 (3,181 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Howdy!

I'm having a speed queen awn432 washer (and matching dryer) delivered today. I'm interested in doing the full level adjustment and have read several topics and watched many YouTube videos on it. Unfortunately, I still have some questions on the details of this mod.

1) the location of the adjustment screw is obvious. I've read some people saying you adjust it 1/4 turn, others saying up to 3.5 turns. Which one is it closest to?

2) do you make the adjustment, then fill the drum? Or fill them adjust? If you fill first, how does the adjustment refill?

3) if you adjust it once and it is not enough, do you have to drain it and start over?

4) really stupid question: how do you drain it? I'm assuming you advance the control knob to the drain part of the cycle, but how do I know where that is? I'm assuming the drain step is not marked like my old machine.

Thanks for bearing with my noob ness!





Post# 834618 , Reply# 1   7/31/2015 at 09:52 (3,181 days old) by washman (o)        
See below

1. All of the above or none. My dad's machine was about 4 turns. My machine was 7 or 8 I don't recall.

2. Set the load size to max fill. Turn off machine by pushing in the cycle knob. Then turn the screw gently 1/4 turn each time. Then w/o pissing with the load size knob, push the cycle knob in. Either it will fill some more or it won't. Keep going in 1/4 turn increments until you have the fill level in the tub to your liking. I went to just under the top row of holes in mine.

3. No.

4. YMMV but it is right after the wash cycle. This you will have to experiment with due to maunfacturing variations in the timer itself.

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Post# 834621 , Reply# 2   7/31/2015 at 10:10 (3,181 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Great, thank you!

They have installed it, but apparently the new washer drains faster than my old one and overflows the drain. I'll have to fix that before I can experiment...


Post# 834657 , Reply# 3   7/31/2015 at 14:48 (3,181 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Well, the plumber came and snaked the drain. Seems to be just fine now.

I opened it up and it looks like the load size switch is different than the normal pics I've seen. There is still a set screw. And 1.5 turns seems to do the trick. Got it to right under the top holes.

There won't be any problems having the water level about 1/16" below the top row of holes in the pic, right?


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Post# 834668 , Reply# 4   7/31/2015 at 17:07 (3,181 days old) by washman (o)        
Yup that switch does look different

mine has a metal shell. But you nailed it and it should be just fine with the setting you did.

Don't you just love the old school mechanical things in there there are easily replaced and don't cost a paycheck?


Post# 834681 , Reply# 5   7/31/2015 at 22:23 (3,181 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

You can go higher than just under the top holes. Mine is set to just above the rim of the stainless basket and the water level touches the underside of the plastic collar. You can set it so that the water level reaches an inch above the stainless basket and is half way up the collar. Sometimes with a big load of heavy beach towels I manually increase the water level to get a little more in. However, my machine does a static drain. If yours does a spin drain that might be a little too high.

Post# 834786 , Reply# 6   8/1/2015 at 23:24 (3,180 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        

I would think that having your water level set above the lip of the inner basket would be risky. Something could possibly be pushed over the lip and end up being trapped between the inner and outer tubs and then end up clogging up the drain in the machine or you may end up with other problems


Post# 834822 , Reply# 7   8/2/2015 at 09:42 (3,179 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

No, that is actually not possible. The plastic collar is fixed to the stainless tub, there is no gap for anything to slip between the inner and outer baskets. If you look at Post#834657 you can see what I am talking about.

Post# 834831 , Reply# 8   8/2/2015 at 11:51 (3,179 days old) by maylingsmom ()        

I have SQ AWN432. Personally, I would was a couple of loads before changing the level so you can see how it is with different types of clothing. IMO, if it was changed, I would have it at the second hole.

Post# 835237 , Reply# 9   8/5/2015 at 16:48 (3,176 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Is this the newer version with the eco cycle? The pressure switch looks different then mine.

Post# 835252 , Reply# 10   8/5/2015 at 20:23 (3,176 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Yes, it does have the Eco cycle. See the attached pic.

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Post# 835295 , Reply# 11   8/6/2015 at 01:33 (3,175 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Turning the screw will do the trick. By how much will require some play, but try 1 and half turns at first and see how it works. Be gentle and make sure the srew driver is straight, those plastic parts are a lot less forgiving.


Also, can you post a pic of the tech sheet/wiring diagram in the council? That would be awesome, I might get this model before its finally phased out.


Post# 835362 , Reply# 12   8/6/2015 at 10:25 (3,175 days old) by maylingsmom ()        

This is the exact same machine I have. My machine did not come with a tech sheet/wiring diagram.

Post# 835390 , Reply# 13   8/6/2015 at 13:00 (3,175 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Tech sheet

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The tech sheet is usually in the control panel. (Gusherb's 7th post in the beginning of the thread)

www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...


Post# 835429 , Reply# 14   8/6/2015 at 18:31 (3,175 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Adjusting The WL On A New SQ TL Washer

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The current machines [ both the AWN432 and the two electronic models ] Have a much higher water level and do not and should not have the WL raised, yes the higher you set it the greater chance you will have a small item of clothing go over the plastic rim and do a lot of damage to the washer.

 

Three weeks ago I ran a call on a SQ TL washer [ less than a month old ] where a table napkin went over the tub and jammed the wash basket from turning, the main drive belt heated up and melted the main drive pulley, also melted the pump drive and of coarse destroyed the belt. Total cost almost $200 and NOT covered by the warranty as the customer admitted he had turned up the WL.


Post# 835430 , Reply# 15   8/6/2015 at 18:32 (3,175 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Post# 835455 , Reply# 17   8/6/2015 at 20:28 (3,175 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Combo52, I guess I'm confused. SQ is pretty clear they lowered their water levels to meet new regulations. Setting where I indicated brings it back to where they used to set it at the factory. At least according to all the internet wisdom I've read about them.

Post# 835547 , Reply# 18   8/7/2015 at 10:48 (3,174 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Adjusting The WL On A New SQ TL Washer

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With the introduction of the new TL washers with the Eco-Normal Cycle SQ raised the WL to the previous levels. That said you can raise it even more, I have never seen a TL washer going back 50 years that you couldn't raise the WL an inch or so, BUT keep in mind mechanical WL controls are not very accurate and if you get close to the limit you may have problems.


Post# 835553 , Reply# 19   8/7/2015 at 11:42 (3,174 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Interesting. Before I adjusted it, mine was just below the top holes on the agitator, which was about the 4th row of holes down in the drum. That seemed really low to me. The TL Amana it replaced was at the very top of the drum, right below the plastic collar (set like that from the factory).

I don't want to do anything to damage the machine.


Post# 835628 , Reply# 20   8/8/2015 at 00:00 (3,174 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Water level

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Assuming this machine is made like my 3 year earlier Speed Queen the water level can safely go up to the point where the metal tub ends and the plastic begins. Some would call that extreme, but in so far I have not had a single problem with that. The way I see it its up to you, but I do agree filling up to the 4th row of holes is kind of low.

When all is open take pics, I'm curious if your machine has any electronics (it sounds like the Eco cycle has an ATS fill)


Post# 835660 , Reply# 21   8/8/2015 at 07:43 (3,173 days old) by Gustophersmob ()        

Will do. I don't remember seeing any, but I was paying more attention to the fill switch. It did have a ziplock bag with what I assume to be a wiring diagram. I can get pics of that too.

Post# 835706 , Reply# 22   8/8/2015 at 16:04 (3,173 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Thanks! :)

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Wiring diagram is in the Zip lock bag. A quick tip, before closing everything fill the tub up with water just to verify its not to much or to little. Mine took two tries to get it where I wanted.

If curious mine looked like this:


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Post# 835708 , Reply# 23   8/8/2015 at 16:12 (3,173 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Water level

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Almost forgot this. This is the water level on my machine set to high. Might be a tad hard to see but the water goes all they up to where the metal tub ends:

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Post# 887677 , Reply# 24   7/1/2016 at 09:11 (2,845 days old) by jgreen523 (Cleveland, Ohio)        
Water level Adjust on SQ AWN432SP 113TW04

Hello everyone,

Just got my Speed Queen washing machine Mod. AWN432SP113TW04 (Full model no. off the inside lid of the washer). I was wondering if this was the latest mod. no. for the AWN432 ?? and what the numbers mean after the basic AWN432 ??

Like to get a better idea how many turns I need to do on the adjustment screw to get the water level up to the first roll of holes. Mine also stops at the bottom of the second roll of holes.

Also, will this adjustment cause any problems with my warranty in the event that I need to use it ??

Thank you for your input.
John Z


Post# 887704 , Reply# 25   7/1/2016 at 13:22 (2,845 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Approach with caution

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The model that you have purchased likely has the Normal/Eco cycle. This purposely fills lower than the electronic models as it adds additional water after agitation begins. Not sure how much, so adjustment should be made very carefully or you may end up with an overfill condition.

Malcolm



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