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Post# 845131   10/10/2015 at 17:22 (3,112 days old) by Letsgoblues ()        

Just curious what detergent is the worst, in your opinion. :)




Post# 845139 , Reply# 1   10/10/2015 at 18:12 (3,112 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        
Breeze/Wisk

I think the worst detergent was: Breeze. It had a wash cloth,(small size), tea towel,( medium size) or giant size (bath towel). The towels were toted as being Cannon towels, a very good brand in the 50's and 60's. The towels were packaged in a box within the box of detergent. What a come on that was! The towels were awful and lots less detergent was in the box. Mom used it a few times and said all sorts of unkind things about this; of which I cannot repeat in this forum.
When Wisk came out in the late 50's, it was in a metal can. It was not the best and again, nasty verbage was my mom's mode of operation with all of that. "This damn crap is expensive and doesn't wash worth a damn."

She liked Oxydol and American Fammily Detergent, which was in a red box. It was white with blue bits in it and cleaned well and smelled good, not flowery or like medicine.



Post# 845145 , Reply# 2   10/10/2015 at 18:35 (3,112 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Sun and Xtra liquids tody. 


Post# 845155 , Reply# 3   10/10/2015 at 20:13 (3,112 days old) by Gusherb (Chicago/NWI)        

Arm and Hammer & Xtra. One has a horrific musky stench and the other smells foul. They also don't clean worth a damn either.

Post# 845159 , Reply# 4   10/10/2015 at 20:36 (3,112 days old) by washman (o)        
agreed appnut

Sun and Xtra liquids the bottom feeder in laundry detergents.

Post# 845231 , Reply# 5   10/11/2015 at 04:41 (3,112 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Ah Ha.

Maybe it's the Xtra. 

 

I have one employee who is a great guy. And I know he washes in Cold Water in a Nasty Front Loader. I know he showers everyday and never wears the same clothes (which I have seen in a restaurant. YUK) and his tail wind when he walks by is Mildewy and Sour. He always is talking about bargains at the Market so maybe it's that combination.

 

How does one go about asking and then saying "You smell like mildew" ?  And I would think it is not healthy to wear clothes next to your skin that aren't exactly clean.


Post# 845239 , Reply# 6   10/11/2015 at 06:19 (3,112 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Yea

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I've always wondered why some of us are so in tune to things like this while others are just oblivious..

Post# 845248 , Reply# 7   10/11/2015 at 07:52 (3,112 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Yeah I have to agree on the Sun and Xtra detergents....though I used Xtra for years and it was marginal...but def noticed a difference when I switched to a premium brand...especially in whites.

I'm very in tune to smells too...I'm very careful with how I wash my clothes. They always have to smell just right. I actually get a lot of compliments on how "fresh" I smell...LOL.


Post# 845250 , Reply# 8   10/11/2015 at 07:55 (3,112 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Ariel and Bold

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I dunno but I've never really liked the scent of Ariel for a while, they changed the scent a while back and it smells awful, and it doesn't clean or rinse like it used to. You used to be able to soak laundry in Ariel, and it would come out spotless without scrubbing or rubbing, and it would get out tomato/pasta sauce and curry stains out and pretty much anything in one wash with the old formula from 2004 (Ariel Quickwash action). The new formula doesn't get out everything and I want impeccable cleaning, I want 100% stain free laundry thats spotless. Ariel in the 80s and 90s was amazing!!

Bold - I find Bold Powder to be too smelly, and too soapy nowadays, it makes me itch like anything and I find it doesn't clean that well. My Mum used to use Bold when she couldn't afford Ariel and Lenor together, so she would alternate between Ariel and Bold. I remember Bold Spring and Summer Fresh from the 90s, they smelt lovely, I loved Bold up until they brought out the Ocean Clear formula which the powder smelt extremely strong.


Post# 845260 , Reply# 9   10/11/2015 at 09:09 (3,112 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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My husband used to share a house with a friend and they were very thrifty when doing laundry...Purex liquid and cold water... when we moved in together it was a long process to get everything washed properly. Every so often I come upon something which was stored or put away (linens) and they're pretty pungent. It's a bit of a paradox because he is very aware of BO and uses a lot of Speed Stick deodorant, not antiperspirant.

Post# 845275 , Reply# 10   10/11/2015 at 10:33 (3,112 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Agreed:

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Sun and Extra are the worst. An old neighbor did a lot of cold washes and used Xtra, it was obvious. I finally got him to switch to Tide and he's never looked back.
WK78


Post# 845278 , Reply# 11   10/11/2015 at 10:43 (3,112 days old) by MikeS ()        
I Agree With The Majority

Sun & Xtra are barely detergents. When I moved in with my significant other, he was using Sun. I changed that quickly. Now it's Kirkland Signature pods for the major wash, and All Free & Clear Ultra for other loads. Couldn't be happier.

Post# 845288 , Reply# 12   10/11/2015 at 11:27 (3,112 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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Back around 2000 I got my first front loader, a Neptune 4500 set. HE detergents were few and far between back then, and all I could find in the local stores initially was Wisk liquid HE. It didn't clean worth a damn, over sudsed, and left a horrid aroma on everything. I still have a couple of jugs of the damn stuff in storage. I suppose I should donate them to the local laundromat or take them to a hazardous waste dump.

 


Post# 845289 , Reply# 13   10/11/2015 at 11:34 (3,112 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I could not agree more about the scent of "Xtra".  I have not used "Sun" detergent.  The "Sun" branded   all fabric bleach works well enough for the cost.  Great for bathroom rugs, fabric shower curtains.


Post# 845291 , Reply# 14   10/11/2015 at 12:21 (3,112 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

I've always wondered why some of us are so in tune to things like this while others are just oblivious..

Because some people just don't care. Or they think other things in their life are more important than smelling clean. For a lot of people "if it went through the washer, it has to be clean" mentality. I have found people who are engineers or technical geeks are sometimes like this.
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Post# 845303 , Reply# 15   10/11/2015 at 14:18 (3,112 days old) by Jmm63 (Denville, NJ)        

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Martha Stewarts laundry detergent is right up there...slightly better than washing with water alone.  


Post# 845306 , Reply# 16   10/11/2015 at 14:23 (3,112 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Am I correct

In saying that Sun make the Costco Kirkland detergents?

Post# 845337 , Reply# 17   10/11/2015 at 17:09 (3,111 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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And All, and Wisk...

Post# 845355 , Reply# 18   10/11/2015 at 19:42 (3,111 days old) by aamassther (Hendersonville, NC )        

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Nellies and Charlies need to be added to the list!

Post# 845598 , Reply# 19   10/13/2015 at 11:13 (3,110 days old) by dirtybuck (Springfield, MO)        

Does anyone remember VISTA detergent? On the box it said "cleans better than Tide". Uh...no, it didn't.

Post# 845602 , Reply# 20   10/13/2015 at 11:42 (3,110 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)        
Back in the day...

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The laundry detergent (Salvo, I think) that came in a disc that you threw into the washer--kind of the precursor to today's pods. I don't know how it cleaned, but Mom said the disc never dissolved completely, so there were specs on clothes and chunks in the bottom of the tub.

As for the discussion of the folks with the mildew-scented clothes...yes, very familiar. I think it's usually one of two culprits: hang-drying in a musty basement, or leaving a load of clean clothes in the washer for too long and then throwing them in the dryer without doing a sniff test. I myself have gone to put a load of wash in, only to encounter clean/formerly clean wet clothes. "Huh. When did I do this load?" For me, that's an automatic re-wash, but not for everyone, I guess.


Post# 845756 , Reply# 21   10/14/2015 at 06:01 (3,109 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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@zanussi_lover I agree! When I first left home in 2008, I bought a big box of Ariel (pre-Actilift) and it was brilliant! It seemed to go downhill after the introduction of Ariel's stain remover range. I suspect they dumbed down the formula to entice people to buy the extra stain removers, which were completely unnnecessary with the old formula.

I think the worst detergent award in the UK has to go to Bold. It's always been a bit crap. And P&G totally know that - whilst ad campaigns for Persil, Ariel, Surf and Daz would boast about their stain removal and washing results, Bold's entire promotional angle was based on it being a 2 in 1, so it saved buying a detergent and a softener. No mention of actual washing. It doesn't wash well at all - the last time my Mum used it, despite being a bio, she had to stop as all her whites were going grey. And it stinks to high heaven, so instead of actually washing properly, it just masks the dirt with high scents and chemical perfumes that you can smell from the end of the street.


Post# 845815 , Reply# 22   10/14/2015 at 12:56 (3,109 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        

@AquaCycle - as far as Bold is concerned I totally agree. There are a number of detergents I use rarely and Bold is one. Having bought a large box of it some months ago when it was half price at my local Waitrose I can confirm that it is virtually impossible to rinse out and despite initially being a little impressed with it's stain removing ability, my opinion has gone down as low as it can go. Personally I don't mind the fragrance but as it is not coupled with cleaning then I can live without it.

I would like to add Fairy to the list of worst detergents. In my experience the stain removal ability was close to zero and worse than the powder is the gel. May as well wash in clear water as far as I can see.


Post# 845823 , Reply# 23   10/14/2015 at 13:36 (3,109 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
May as well wash in clear water as far as I can see.

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To be honest, I feel that way about most liquid detergents lol

Post# 845824 , Reply# 24   10/14/2015 at 13:47 (3,109 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

I'm going to stick up for Fairy, for me, its been fine, Bold is horrific, smells to high heaven, doesnt clean to a remotely acceptable standard and leaves a fine residue in the machine.


Post# 845826 , Reply# 25   10/14/2015 at 14:11 (3,109 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Oh and I also think that Ariel powder has a rather odd smell too, not sure if I've noticed any cleaning issues with the Actilift formula because I've never really bought ariel because of the smell, but it wouldnt surprise me if it was dumbed down.

Post# 845901 , Reply# 26   10/15/2015 at 00:51 (3,108 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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My powders that become bricks--I pass them onto Dad who has never let anything go to waste--he eats, makes good use of or uses ANY $#%@! that you give him...



-- Dave


Post# 845999 , Reply# 27   10/16/2015 at 00:20 (3,107 days old) by toploader1984 ()        


Dave you live very close to me, i'm in roseville

Post# 846014 , Reply# 28   10/16/2015 at 07:00 (3,107 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
DaveAMKrayoGuy and the East Side!

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That's right--and when there was that record store there on Gratiot, (Record time) I was there, but there's still Blast From The Past and Eastpointe's Memories & Melodies that I frequent...  Haven't been to Hot Hits in a while, it closed briefly, so I wonder if it's back...

 

So, yes, I am sometimes where you are, T-L, '84...

 

-- Dave


Post# 846208 , Reply# 29   10/17/2015 at 12:36 (3,106 days old) by carmine (Detroit)        
Eastside Pride

St. Clair Shores in the house!

Sorry. Just had to mention.

I have no vote for worst detergent. My wife doesn't let me wash clothes.

I asked her for the name of a crappy detergent, she could only offer that "Snuggle" fabric softener gives her a rash.


Post# 846240 , Reply# 30   10/17/2015 at 15:54 (3,106 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
re: Eastside Pride of St. Clair Shores!

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Yes, forgot: CAR CITY CLASSICS--the record store that closed, and just before I was just getting into my Pat Boone fix!

Wonder what I missed out on there--before the still-sealed copy of DEPARTURE that I could have bought there, but got used somewhere else & went from there (after Pat did "Never Goin' Back" at the end of the BEVERLY HILLBILLIES episode which got me hooked!)...

 

Wonder if in the Easy Listening & Country section that got reduced to $1 "throwaways" as the store was closing might'a been my SEARS SILVERTONE DEMONSTRATION RECORD (Dot Records DPR-3) that I'm currently looking for, to get the one or two Pat songs that are on it...

 

(Back to Topic: Now what were we discussing?!)

 

 

-- Dave


Post# 846376 , Reply# 31   10/18/2015 at 01:20 (3,105 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

I don't care for Snuggle fabric softner at all, the smell is way to strong and, to me, smells like something industrial. Gain laundry pods are another, they may clean well but just too strong in the smell. I also have to vote Trend laundry detergent as really bad too, it didn't remove grease stains on kitchen towels. The Safeway brand also was another bad performer. Was also not fond of Ajax liquid, didn't seem to cut getting out deep down stains. So I guess a person gets what they pay for in that it seems the ones that don't cut it are the bargain brands.

There are a number of laundry detergents that I haven't tried, that are marketed to the Hispanic population down here in south central Texas, that I've never seen while living north of the mason Dixon line. Roma comes to mind. Many of these detergents come in huge plastic bags. One bag would last me a year or more!!!


Post# 846414 , Reply# 32   10/18/2015 at 12:05 (3,105 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK)        

I second Bold, Ariel and Fairy. All rubbish for rinsing and nowhere near as good as the 90's. I am using Almat still and rinses far better than the over priced branded stuff and cleans as good if not on par. What detergents do you use that you think rinses well @ Zanussilover? Ben

Post# 846547 , Reply# 33   10/19/2015 at 06:30 (3,104 days old) by Zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
SURF tropical

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I recommend surf tropical powder. Cleans well smells lovely (scent has changed smells like 2005 surf tropical) and rinses well without suds locking. My favourite powder at the moment. Only like the tropical one, the yellow one smells like cheap lemon washing up liquid and the lavender one smells disgusting too as they have changed the scent.

Post# 846579 , Reply# 34   10/19/2015 at 11:06 (3,104 days old) by mamapinky (blairsville pa)        

I don't suppose if the worst detergent is cut with STPP counts, lol I have found the bottom shelf detergents may be ok for freshening up seasonal clothing, but not for actual cleaning, but if cut with STPP its a different detergent altogether, but that's not the question here lol....Cheryl

Post# 846946 , Reply# 35   10/21/2015 at 13:33 (3,102 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK)        

What about Daz detergents any good?

Post# 846962 , Reply# 36   10/21/2015 at 17:26 (3,101 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
@liberatordeluxe

I'm actually using Daz at the moment, now for some reason I have to work really hard to like Daz (along with Surf).

Out of all the detergents, I just don't seem to get on with these 2.

Just tonight oddly enough, I think I am staring to decide that Daz causes excessive pilling "bobbling" - My sister in law always uses Daz exclusively and I have always noticed her clothes are bobbly.

Folding a pile of laundry tonight, I saw a few items which seemed to be far more bobbly than I would see normally.

Also, as Laundress mentioned, "bluing" is a substitute for a poor detergent, Daz is absolutely racked with the stuff.


Post# 846991 , Reply# 37   10/21/2015 at 21:27 (3,101 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Wisk tablets!

Wisk tablets were the worst! They didn't dissolve completely! I had to restart the washer over and over again! I would take Tide or Bravo over this!

Post# 846994 , Reply# 38   10/21/2015 at 21:32 (3,101 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Wisk Tablets

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Never used them in the compact form. Always crumbled a few packets worth into a large Mason jar. Would then use the small scoop to dose properly for my Miele or other washers.

Stuff cleaned well enough for a detergent without enzymes or bleach.


Post# 847070 , Reply# 39   10/22/2015 at 11:54 (3,101 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        
Daz and Surf

I also have to try hard to like Daz and Surf. The last time I used Daz powder I washed a load of formal shirts, mainly white with a very pale blue and pale pink one thrown in, both of which are well past bleeding colour. Regardless, I put a colour catcher in and when I unloaded, the colour catcher was bordering on lime green. I didn't think too much of it at the time until I did another very light coloured load with Daz and the colour catcher came out green again. I would have expected it to come out with a blue tinge but green?

If Surf went back to the old 'Square Deal' format I might use it again but I can't cope with all the flavours it now comes in.

I think original Daz powder was actually blue in colour as was one of the variants of Tide in the UK many years ago (and OMO and Co-op blue was, obviously blue!) Goodness knows how much bluing agent they contained!


Post# 847080 , Reply# 40   10/22/2015 at 13:22 (3,101 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
Daz and Surf

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I've not noticed any pilling on bobbling when using Daz, but then again I only use Daz or Surf Tropical Powder on whites, towels and colourfast washes including sheets and light laundry that needs oxygen bleach to get them white. I like Persil Bio Powder too but find it doesn't smell as nice as Surf Tropical as they have changed the powder scent back to the old tropical perfume they had from 2005-2010.

I agree with Square deal Surf, I wish they would bring back the Original Surf Fragrance, I enjoyed Surf Lemon Fresh, Sunfresh and Cotton Fresh of the early 2000's and Surf Breeze (Blue Box) was my favourite around 2004-2007, Surf Breeze with Comfort Blue Dilute, the original Comfort scent in the dilute bottles before they brought out the fresh release formula concentrates around 2007. I also loved in 2005, Surf Tropical with Comfort Lily and Rice Flower, that was a nice combo.

Surf have brought out a powder called Classic Fresh, Whether or not it smells like Original Surf I don't know, you can only buy it in Morrisons or Sainsburys. It has the herbal extracts in it. I've not seen it anywhere else.

As for Bold, I find Bold perfumes are disgusting. Nothing like Bold Ultra Spring Fresh and Summer Meadow Fresh in the 1990s. Bold Lavender and Camomile was quite pleasant when it first came out but when they started adding all this Fresh Microcapsule Perfume stuff, the perfumes became quite chemically pungent.

Nowadays all P&G powders apart from Daz and Fairy they all smell like sour sherbet, with a tangy sickly sweet sour stink which sticks to your clothes, the same with Ariel. Daz and Fairy have more pleasant perfumes. But Fairy is bad at rinsing and Daz suds locks on the main wash spin, where as Surf doesn't as it doesn't foam up as much as Daz.


Post# 847399 , Reply# 41   10/24/2015 at 17:50 (3,098 days old) by hoover8pulse (Wales/Shropshire Border)        
zanussi_lover

I'm really liking Surf at the moment too. I loved the Herbal Extracts liquid and was pleased to buy the Classic Fresh powder at £4 in August. It smells lovely with just a clean smell that smells very akin to Surf Breeze which I adored. It pairs very nicely with the the blue Comfort Intense. I recommend it. I like the Sunshine powder too but I do love lemon smelling things. I'm loving Surf, it dies the job wonderfully and these new fragrances are gorgeous.

I don't like Bold anymore. I'd say it was the worst detergent. I've really gone off it as it's cleaning power is terrible and it stinks.

Daz I don't like either. I've really gone off that too. Don't even know why because it smells lovely but I find Ariel is a much better performer. Mum uses the Blossom Daz liquid and it doesn't remove smells from clothes, just covers them up.

I've only tested Fairy recently and am pleased to report it s wonderful. I love it. Cleans everything very well (shifted pasta sauce) and makes everything so soft. Had no problems rinsing either. Ariel I aso love, okay the smell is strong but it just works so well at cleaning its up there as one of my favourite brands.


Post# 847402 , Reply# 42   10/24/2015 at 18:05 (3,098 days old) by filterflo58 (new york)        

Xtra is the worst, dont people see its mostly water?

Post# 1062951 , Reply# 43   3/11/2020 at 23:40 (1,498 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
washday

According to my dad, the worst laundry detergent was washday. We had both the liquid and powder version of this detergent when we got our water softener. While it did smell good, it would suds up a whole lot despite using per directions and he'd find it didn't clean clothes well. It used pure coconut and advanced optical brighteners supposedly, and we had soft water. It didn't matter whether we used it in the filter-flo, post-filter-flo, or the acellawash pair. I will give it credit for leaving a fresh smell in the clothes in the filter-flo pair. Same for the post-filter-flo. That's what we finished the rest of it in.

Post# 1062976 , Reply# 44   3/12/2020 at 10:12 (1,498 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I still have an unopened

box of Sears detergent from the 80's my dad gave to me. I wonder who made it for them, and if it was like any name brand ones. You know, in some parts of the world, laundry is till cleaned in a stream on rocks sans any detergent other than nature.
Martha has dtergent with her name on it? News to me. She's Polish, and my mom was half, so she's ok by me. She paid her dues and did her time. I hope the southern district of NY has good evidence on someone else.


Post# 1062986 , Reply# 45   3/12/2020 at 13:56 (1,498 days old) by dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA))        

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I kind of wonder who someone else could be? My grandma always had the Sear's detergent and my mom too. I wish they still had it.

Post# 1062987 , Reply# 46   3/12/2020 at 14:02 (1,498 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
Sears detergent

was made by DeSoto Chemical Co., which also made their paint for many years. It was originally owned by Sears, but later spun off as United-DeSoto. They were also a manufacturer of wallcoverings.

Post# 1062990 , Reply# 47   3/12/2020 at 15:11 (1,498 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Oxydol (nowadays)

It's basically a colored water.

Dose (to barely do something and of course not remove any stains) is probably 5 bottles.

A bottle costs 97 cents at Hell-Mart. Even the dollar store LA Awesome brand is way better than that thing.


Post# 1062998 , Reply# 48   3/12/2020 at 17:39 (1,497 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Link to info about DeSoto Inc.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO CircleW's LINK


Post# 1063232 , Reply# 49   3/14/2020 at 19:35 (1,495 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
Clout!

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I think it was Costco that used to sell a cheap powder in tubs called Clout!.

It was mostly sodium carbonate with a high sudsing surfactant, as I recall. I found it useful for cleaning oil off concrete floors... LOL...

I think Costco discontinued carrying it, and replaced it with tubs of a Kirkland branded version.


Post# 1063233 , Reply# 50   3/14/2020 at 19:39 (1,495 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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And here's what I posted back in 2012 in another thread:


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There is no nationwide ban on phosphates in residential laundry detergents.

There are local and state bans. The industry has generally responded by removing phosphates from all their laundry products, in order not to run afoul of selling phosphated products in areas where it isn't allowed, and to avoid having to sell and package different formulations (although as I recall products like White King Laundry booster was able to sell a variety of formulations in the same box with a simple letter code on the side of the boxes to indicate if they contained phosphates or zeolites).

In my part of California - where there is no state law banning phosphates in laundry or dw detergents - I recall that my usual laundry detergent - "Clout" - which I got from Costco, started giving really poor results in the 1990's. By careful reading of the label I traced the "good" Clout to the presence of phosphates, and the "bad" Clout to the absence of phosphates. It took me a while but with the help of the internet by the end of the 1990's I was able to learn that STPP was the key missing ingredient in most laundry detergents. So I bought some 50 lb sacks of the stuff from a local chemical supply warehouse and have been supplementing HE laundry powders with it ever since.

In most of California, phosphates are not regarded as an environmental concern as they are in "wet summer" states like in New England. In fact, nitrates are considered to be more of a problem here. But places like New York or Minnesota have statewide bans on phosphate home cleaning products like laundry detergents. And the Lake Tahoe basin region in California/Nevada also has a local ban for obvious reasons.

In California one can still find phosphated laundry detergent in products from Mexico, like Ariel or Roma laundry detergents. However it's very hard to find low sudsing versions of these products, which is why I supplement regular HE powders (like Sears Ultra Plus HE) with STPP.



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