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Post# 847148   10/23/2015 at 00:50 (2,968 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Whirlpool's Cold-Water Washer. Yep, a washer that (almost) only allows cold water - except for Heavy Duty, which is "Hot" only. *feh*

Post# 847152 , Reply# 1   10/23/2015 at 01:35 (2,968 days old) by washer111 ()        



It looks practically BOL to me! So it will sell cheap. I doubt, however, that these will last long given the situations where they will end up: Rentals and houses of eco-minded or laundry-illiterate where they'll become mouldy, scummy messes. I would almost guarantee there will be a lawsuit as these machines fall over dead from lack of hot water washing! 


The eco-nannies finally have a machine that conforms to their evil agenda... 


Although my solution would be to swap the water hoses around :P 

Post# 847155 , Reply# 2   10/23/2015 at 05:38 (2,967 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Gag and gross!!!!

Post# 847156 , Reply# 3   10/23/2015 at 05:53 (2,967 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

From reading CU's take on this washer-they didn't seem overwhelmed by it.They say the washer is noisey and hard on clothes-and to top it off with the cold only wash-the body "funk" won't get washed out of the clothes.Pass on this.As one member says--SWAP THE HOSES!!!!

Post# 847161 , Reply# 4   10/23/2015 at 06:32 (2,967 days old) by A440 ()        

I am loosing all respect for Whirlpool each time they come out with a "new" product.


It will be a matter of time until a group of Lawyers find a group of People that have had / are having

terrible skin problems because of their "cold wash washer". 


It really bothers me when a corporation that  has made laundry products for so many years does something this stupid! It appears to me that Whirlpool is trying anything possible to regain their Throne in the laundry appliance division. (or any division of appliances)  What other reason would they do something so dumb?


I hope no other manufacture comes out with a "cold water washer" just to make Whirlpool look like idiots!



Post# 847162 , Reply# 5   10/23/2015 at 06:39 (2,967 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Well obviously cycle controlled water temps are nothing new...that's been a BOL trait for a very long time, but this machine seems to be geared mostly for cold water usage, which oddly enough is what most people use. At least most people as is the "general public" LOL. Seems like Whirlpool has made a machine that is designed for it's customers....can't criticize them for that! Problem is that you def need to use a cold water detergent, which I can almost guarantee the majority of people won't use. The big jug of Sun will be paired a lot with this type of machine. Gunk city!

I actually use mostly warm water when I wash or cool so this washer wouldn't work well for me. Hey, they have to keep up with regulations so they do what they gotta do. I looked at some of their new machines at Home Depot last night and they seem ok. Buy what you like, is my motto! LOL

Post# 847163 , Reply# 6   10/23/2015 at 06:40 (2,967 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I'm the first to say there is a place in the world of laundry for cold washes---the Cold Wash cycle on the new Maytag gets used more than I thought it would---but a washer that limits choices this much is not for me. And you know the hot water in the Heavy Duty cycle is only warm; 105-110 degrees.  


Pass.  Big-time.



Post# 847164 , Reply# 7   10/23/2015 at 06:46 (2,967 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I think this washer was def designed with landlords in mind. hahaha.

Post# 847166 , Reply# 8   10/23/2015 at 07:54 (2,967 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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A single Cold Water Wash cycle on a machine wasn't enough?  I'm appalled that that one cycle is so boldly presented on many current washers.  And I know so many who wash only in cold water. 

Post# 847167 , Reply# 9   10/23/2015 at 07:57 (2,967 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Oy, it's not a dream sequence

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I wondered if, perhaps, this washer uses a mix of cold and hot water for filling to give a tepid >65-68 degree wash. I find no mention of water temperatures, mixing hot/cold for correct or ideal temperature wash water in the manual or the machine's page on WP's site.

Maybe they should have put the "Clean Washer with Affresh" cycle at the top of the selector dial.

I'll keep my '61 Mark XII.


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Post# 847172 , Reply# 10   10/23/2015 at 08:11 (2,967 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i have to disagree with everyone so i apoligize in advance

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sorry but i disagree i am one that wash in cold water and never had skin problems or a mouldy washer and it is what i call an energy saving washer and true energy star washer and since it all cold water wash for the most part lewst costly on the electric bill

Post# 847178 , Reply# 11   10/23/2015 at 08:32 (2,967 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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The angle about protecting clothes from heat damage is interesting marketing.† I've noticed people who run only cold washes seem to be paranoid about that.† Someone in another forum recently said, "I wash everything but towels in cold, to make sure nothing shrinks. If you wash in warm or hot, how do you keep sheets and clothing from shrinking?"

Sheets?† Really?

Post# 847179 , Reply# 12   10/23/2015 at 08:34 (2,967 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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No need to apologize Pierre, for how you do your laundry lol. Despite being surrounded by laundry enthusiasts ;-) Like I said in my previous post, this washer is designed for how a large portion of the customer base does their laundry. I'm sure Whirlpool knows how many people wash in only cold water and quite honestly I commend them for producing a product tailored for that market base. This is also a perfect unit for a landlord who supplies both laundry and utilities with their rental. That way you have a pretty good chance of keeping your hot water costs down.

Post# 847181 , Reply# 13   10/23/2015 at 09:15 (2,967 days old) by A440 ()        

A $549 washer with no temp control?

Wonder what kind of profit WP will be making off of this BOL washer?!!

I agree Greg!  The Clean Cycle should be at the top of the Dial with a note to run every five loads!  LOL!

Your WP Mark XIL is beautiful!!!


Post# 847183 , Reply# 14   10/23/2015 at 09:55 (2,967 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Common sense......

wash all your loads in COLD water, and then run a CleanWasher cycle in HOT......where are my savings...

many of these new machines are already constructed to know if you hook the HOT water to the COLD water side of the will shut down on you, and an improper installation is not covered under a warranty...

these machines have already been built and are in use as we speak, just not noted on the control panel, most temps now are so dubbed down, people don't care, they load, push the button and walk away.....

oddly enough for the ones who wash in cold water, most use a dryer, most are electric......again, where are you saving?...

most of my life I washed in WARM, just to get good results as well as save some money......when the Neptune came out, it allowed me to wash in HOT almost all the time, whats 3 gallons of water?....

people complain of longer wash times for these HE machines, that's only built in for COOLER temps to remove stains, it needs a longer activation time, versus if these machines washed in true Warm/Hot temps, the cleaning would happen sooner...

these machines would be great for a Landlord situation...when people aren't paying for it, they will wash in all HOT water....a full tub to wash one piece of clothing....

Post# 847184 , Reply# 15   10/23/2015 at 10:06 (2,967 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Guys, you don't have to to swap the hoses. Just put a Y connector on the cold inlet, and attach hot and cold to that Y connector and manually select it.

Post# 847191 , Reply# 16   10/23/2015 at 11:18 (2,967 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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ATC electronics may still protest when an expected cold incoming flow is too high a temperature.

Post# 847198 , Reply# 17   10/23/2015 at 13:06 (2,967 days old) by Gusherb (Chicago/NWI)        

I have to laugh when people insist on washing in cold as not to shrink the clothes or have colors bleed, but turn around and toss them in the dryer for 70 minutes on High. I actually called one of my sisters friends out on her little habit and she growled at me. HA!
In my own experience I've actually found the dryer to have more influence on shrinking/fading than any temp in the washer. I now dry clothes on medium, towels and sheets on high.

Also from a landlord perspective that would be a good washer. My dads building has two units and 3 people living in each of them, and a small retail shop on the first floor. The water usage is about 10,000 gallons a month which is a little high to me, and the summer gas bill is kinda high just for hot water use. The washing machines are both DD Kenpools, so I know going to something like a cold water washer would help that a lot. Though of course I and even my dad knows better and wouldn't do something like that because he has to maintain the appliances and a gunked up broken 2 year old washer would be unacceptable.

Post# 847199 , Reply# 18   10/23/2015 at 13:16 (2,967 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
What's This?

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In scrolling down on the CR website, I see this and wonder what it is...


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Post# 847200 , Reply# 19   10/23/2015 at 13:21 (2,967 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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These are 24" models from ArÁelik, branded either Beko or Blomberg.

Post# 847201 , Reply# 20   10/23/2015 at 13:34 (2,967 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Speaking of dryers, Reviewed also has an article about "The Right To Dry"

And this one is just awesome:

Post# 847203 , Reply# 21   10/23/2015 at 14:07 (2,967 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        
Could someone please explain and/or correct me?

These are the facts/physics as I understand them. They're based on what I learned in classes, employee training when I worked at The Gap and Chess King, reading Consumer Reports back when they supplied technical material, the expertise of fellow members, and my own experience.

1. To go from a pile of dirty laundry to a pile of clean, dry clothes ready to fold/hang up, most of the ENERGY (not water!) savings comes from higher final spin speeds that allow the dryer to run for shorter times to dry clothes. IIRC, this is more important than everything else combined.

2. Sebum/skin oil does not dissolve below 85-90F... or is it higher?

3. A given detergent (powder or liquid) needs a given temp to dissolve fully into the wash water.

4. I have NEVER gotten olive oil out of clothing in washed in tap cold water. I repeat...NEVER.

5. Most shrinkage of clothing is a result of dryer temps, not wash temps, regardless of how hot the wash water might be.

6. The energy cost of heating water for a hot wash an old fashioned TL is a good bit less than the difference in energy used to dry a load of clothes spun at 1200 as opposed to 700rpm final spin. IIRC, this is true regardless of how the water is heated or whether the dryer is gas or electric.

I have extremely oily skin and sweat like a pig so removal of said oil and sweat is my main concern regarding laundry. Apologies if I'm a bit OCD about it.

Could somebody please tell me what I have wrong or what factors might mitigate any of the above? Have I overlooked any exceptions?



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Post# 847205 , Reply# 22   10/23/2015 at 14:26 (2,967 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

Well with the amount of water this thing uses where is the savings?  My water costs more than my electric and this thing is using 26 Gals per cycle.....promoted in CA?


It is warmer in CA than where I live so perhaps CA cold water is higher than 38F in the winter, but I can't see how 45F water or whatever would clean.


This machine is nothing but something WLP wants to get federal tax government credits for. 

Post# 847211 , Reply# 23   10/23/2015 at 15:28 (2,967 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Agreed, Jerrod6.

The CA rebate is from Southern California Gas Company so one could make a case that

1. Anything connected with water use is outside of their purview.
2. This washer is a "Good Thing" because users will lower their SCGC bill.
3. As a result of #1 & #2 the fact that it is apparently not water efficient is irrelevant.

However, this case ignores the fact that CA's water situation is (last I heard) rather more dire than their gas situation. Or am I wrong about that?

I can just see the lumpenvolk buying this in droves believing they're doing their bit to help with the drought.

Post# 847214 , Reply# 24   10/23/2015 at 15:46 (2,967 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        
Rental Queen!

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I'm still convinced this washer was designed strong in favor of being sold to rental properties. It is the lowest price model in the line up...the next one up is identical except it has temp controls. Just like the previous generation Chevy many people voluntarily went out to buy one for themselves? Not too many. It was a rental car queen. Don't think you'll see too many people grabbing this machine up either. I bet it will be sold in volume at a discount. Honestly I haven't seen a "new" version of the Admiral or Roper machines either. Seems like Amana (and the BOL Kenmore) is being sold as the cheapo machine. Maybe they are phasing out Admiral and Roper? This could be another option in the cheapo lineup. Just my 2 cents...or 2 more cents I should say :-D

Post# 847246 , Reply# 25   10/23/2015 at 21:46 (2,967 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
if i had the choice between an all clod water washer and vin

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if i had the choice between an all cold water washe washer and vintage washer i would go vintage with true washe rinse temp because i do use warm water wash and hot water wash depending on whats to wash like

pem press T-shirt warm wash cold rinse

bedding hotwater cold rinse but if i had a warm rinse option for bedding i would set to warm rinse pic is there as an exemple

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Post# 847304 , Reply# 26   10/24/2015 at 08:28 (2,966 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)        
the ArÁelik machine look interesting...

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Any one have any first hand knowledge of these?  They look like they are 220 Volt so I wonder if they are on a par with the Miele machines.


Now that Miele stopped making 220 volt machines (except for the Little Giant "Spa" machine), I would like to have options for when the 1986 gives up the ghost.





Post# 847311 , Reply# 27   10/24/2015 at 09:30 (2,966 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I'd rank ArÁelik's build quality below Bosch and certainly below Miele. But they offer a lot of bang for the buck and many people are happy with them.

Related discussion:

Post# 847443 , Reply# 28   10/24/2015 at 20:35 (2,966 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa )        

So the 549 dollar washer, has just one "hot" wash? I'm sorry at $549 that is no BOL washer. The only way I can see this being a BOL washer is if it actually sold at stores below msrp. Like how I got my first new washer for I think like 449 when GE had it set for 699. Also why did Whirlpool not brand this a roper?


Post# 847448 , Reply# 29   10/24/2015 at 21:00 (2,966 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I think Admiral and Roper have gone by the wayside...Home Depot doesn't show any Admiral washers anymore...

Post# 847511 , Reply# 30   10/25/2015 at 07:31 (2,965 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        
Lively discussion

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Brands? What are those? Those legacy names vendors used to build reputations on? But are now leased by everyone to anyone?

What are reputations? Like, everything bought from Walmart is 2 reputations below the same thing bought anywhere else and nobody seems to care?

Internet told me this was 2015. Not that that's trustworthy by itself but seems corroborated by pgh 1 & 2 and a lot of other stuff. Like a Fudgesicle (tm) has an ingredient list 4 times longer than my Xenolin (tm) skin lotion and 4 times less comprehensible. Something must have changed when nobody was looking.

Nothing wrong with OCD laundry habits. Name of the game.
Sebum-- the primary laundry contaminant-- is a semisolid wax below 90F and by its nature, hydrophobic. That is to say, if you thought it was insoluble as a liquid it's downright impervious to water as a solid.
Not that it's a crime to misunderstand the physical world, but try this test: Put a cup of Tide in a cup of 70F water. Put a candle in it. Wait a day/week/month/year/decade and see how much of the candle dissolved. Weigh it before/after if you don't believe your eyes.
The French may have a word for what less-than-90F water does to wax but I double-damn guarantee it doesn't translate as "wash" in ANY language.

<90F water can 'wash' dust from drapes. That's really about it. And even that doesn't work if the occupant smokes.

Maybe Whirlfool should relicense the RCA prefix like they did before when RCA was well on its way to irrelevancy as a brand name.

Post# 1092798 , Reply# 31   10/10/2020 at 23:44 (1,153 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

What - are they serious?

Post# 1092837 , Reply# 32   10/11/2020 at 11:52 (1,152 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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No thanks

Try washing greasy dishes in cold water.

Body oils and all that need hot water. Detergent might help some....but then add scent beads, fabric softener...probably overloading, too much or too little detergent...This will end up smelling like Seinfeld's car.

for this to even remotely would need the absolute perfect conditions...right detergent, never overload, a very small amount of fab softener and at least ONE hot water wash with bleach.

It's bad enough that so many people already don't know how to do laundry....even with a really good machine. Give them this and LOOK OUT!!!!!

Post# 1092844 , Reply# 33   10/11/2020 at 14:11 (1,152 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

"Try washing greasy dishes in cold water.

Body oils and all that need hot water."

There's a thread here somewhere discussing the temps needed to wash out skin oil and various other types of oil/grease based stains & dirt, assuming the use of products available in the average supermarket.

IIRC, the consensus was 'the hotter the better' if you just want to throw sweat and oil stained items into the washer and get them clean without any special treatment.

To show ridiculous this cold water obsession is getting (otherwise there'd be no need for the product) I saw a commercial the other day, Basically it was:

"Do your clothes come out of the washer not smelling clean? Then just throw our 'XYZ Scent Crystals' into the machine along with your clothes and your problem is solved! Your clothes will smell fresh for days"

Apparently it no longer occurs to most people that if their clothes come out of the washer not smelling clean, then they are in fact not clean. Or at least advertisers think so.....

Post# 1092845 , Reply# 34   10/11/2020 at 14:13 (1,152 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
It seems like

nothing has changed!

Post# 1092848 , Reply# 35   10/11/2020 at 14:23 (1,152 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I just realized this thread is several YEARS old

Post# 1092850 , Reply# 36   10/11/2020 at 14:30 (1,152 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Is this washer still being made? Ultimately they should just build the temperature into the cycles like they did with BOL Kenmores. I like the idea, but to much push on cold and the Heavy duty should really be tap hot.

Post# 1092877 , Reply# 37   10/11/2020 at 19:21 (1,152 days old) by Geoff (Cape Coral, FL)        
No worries

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This is yet another revived thread by GELaundry4ever
. It's from 2015. They no longer make this washer. No offense or discrimination intended.

Post# 1092891 , Reply# 38   10/11/2020 at 23:21 (1,152 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Since we are reviving this thread.....

They actually do still make this machine! And the reviews on the website are hysterical! I can nearly smell the state of California from here.

Post# 1092896 , Reply# 39   10/11/2020 at 23:50 (1,152 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
They actually do still make this machine!

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I'll be darned, they sure do. Guess I shouldn't be surprised though.

Post# 1092951 , Reply# 40   10/12/2020 at 15:22 (1,151 days old) by Geoff (Cape Coral, FL)        

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I thought they killed this model years ago. I stand corrected.

Post# 1092960 , Reply# 41   10/12/2020 at 16:46 (1,151 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Thank you.

No hard feelings. It seems to me that energy restrictions are ever increasing I.E. more cold water washes. And I'll bet it's most brands doing this. I could see if you have dark colors.

Post# 1092963 , Reply# 42   10/12/2020 at 17:26 (1,151 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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My neighbors have a front load Whirlpool that only uses a cold inlet but has a heater for a supposed decent temperature and a condenser dryer that takes up to 3 hours to dry a load of towels. Thanks, but I'll keep my 1984 Maytags.

Post# 1092964 , Reply# 43   10/12/2020 at 17:30 (1,151 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie )        
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You would just need to hang around for the wash fill to complete

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Post# 1093205 , Reply# 44   10/14/2020 at 21:39 (1,149 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I hope whirlpool

tweeks the normal cycle to use warm water, but I'm not gonna hold my breath that they do. Same for the higher temp on the normal cycle on their dryers.

Post# 1093284 , Reply# 45   10/15/2020 at 18:07 (1,148 days old) by ken (NYS)        
Reviews on this washer are funny

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Like lakewebsterkid stated above. Here are a few:

Great Features, NOT: Whirlpool Top Load Washer
Did not ever fathom despising a washing machine; purchased this six months ago, six months of misery with this thing, and I have used possibly/probably hundreds. This thing will give you pain and frustration as well as hard work (get a board and go to the river!)
Six months hence, "take it away" and also dryer although dryer is Fair to OK but want matching set; back to GE and FAST! Getting to be an expensive endeavor, but I could abide this thing NO longer!

I am wasting my TIDE!!!
I am very disappointed in the performance of my new low- water washer!!! I just purchased this supposedly high Efficiency washer and i am working harder than my great grand mother to get the soap out of the dry cloths!!! And this is after the cycle is over!! I should be able to load the cloths the way the manufacturer tells me to, use the proper expensive detergent that is recommended for said product and wait for my clean cloths to come out to dry!! Instead i am working harder to wash cloths than i ever had to in my life$! It is very upsetting when you are expecting clean cloths but you receive cloths that was never touched by water!!! I shouldn't finish a cycle with detergent on my cloths period!!! Bad products!!! Never again!!!

very disappointing - hunk of junk
I bought this washer a few months ago for a rental. Between renters, I am testing it. It makes terrible sounds like it is broken. It does not allow enough water to go in to rinse clothes properly. It does not distribute soap properly clothes comes out with spots of soap on it. I wish I had my old washer back.

Not happy
We have had this machine for 3 years and it hasn't lived up to the expectations of a Whirlpool product. In the 3 years of ownership, the appliance repair people have been to our residence an average of twice a year. Most of the repair work has been to replace the motherboard that control all of the operations of the machine. They were out here today to fix the problems again and told us the repairs this time would be over 500 dollars. We are going to find a new machine to replace it; it won't be a Whirlpool.

The nub they call an agitator
I moved to an apartment with all whirlpool appliances. The washer doesn't get but a trickle of water in it and they put a little nub in the bottom for an agitator then say don't cover it ...serious ..the only way to not cover it is do 3 pairs of socks a load only. the dishwasher doesn't wash dishes either.

I included Whirlpool's response to this review. They actually suggested balling the clothes up to the size of a soccer ball before placing into the washer.

Horrible washing machine!
Water level doesn't even cover one load of sheets on the "sheets" cycle! If water doesn't fill in time, the cycle times out and then the cycle stops and you have to restart this stupid machine. Takes a good hour to wash a load of clothes.

Response from Whirlpool:
Social Care Team ∑ 2 years ago
The Department of Energy standards state how much water any water-based appliances can use, and our washers meet all of their stringent guidelines. We would recommend balling up the clothing similar to the size of a soccer ball, and place around the agitator one at a time. We would also recommend stacking it up so it is around the sides and the agitator plate is visible with all of the clothing around it. Do not fill up past the 2nd to last row of holes in the basket to help avoid overloading. The bulky cycle will allow more water to enter the tub, but will not spin on the highest spin setting. We hope this helps.

Post# 1093306 , Reply# 46   10/15/2020 at 21:31 (1,148 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Whirlpool would be much better off if they started making machines like my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set tomorrow and discontinuing ALL of their HE machines. There wouldnít be much complaints about the wash performance in older belt drive design and customers would be much happier with a machine that actually cleans and does what is supposed to do as opposed to their newer HE machines and yes it would be more expensive to build machines like my Ď63 Whirlpools but again customers would be much happier with having a machine that actually washes and rinses like itís supposed to do.

Post# 1093332 , Reply# 47   10/16/2020 at 07:27 (1,147 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i think whirlpool should go back to classic machines

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i think whirlpool should go back to making classic washers like this inglis washer dryer set like in these pics as well as bring back those classics maytag washer dryer sets

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Post# 1093364 , Reply# 48   10/16/2020 at 11:19 (1,147 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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The good 'ol machines are never coming back due to cost, weight, materials, labor, and government regulation. Go out and rescue those orphans as they become homeless.

Post# 1093391 , Reply# 49   10/16/2020 at 14:17 (1,147 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Unfortunately consumers and customers are too cheap to pay for quality these days but Iíd bring back the old school Whirlpool belt drive washers if I could but Iíd make them in limited numbers so the dumb EPA and DOE canít say anything.

Post# 1093625 , Reply# 50   10/18/2020 at 14:51 (1,145 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

Gross, thatíll never last like the old direct drives. Why would anyone logically want something like that is what I cannot understand

Post# 1153731 , Reply# 51   7/8/2022 at 23:45 (517 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cold water washing

I know this thread is old, yet it is STILL relevant. The only time I use cold water is when I wash my dark colors.

Post# 1153735 , Reply# 52   7/9/2022 at 00:05 (517 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cold water subject

And while we are still on this subject, energy star is going to be reinforced, count on it. I have a feeling that the cold wash agenda is going to be pushed even more. It's bad enough that everything is being treated with a gentle wash action, even with the machine being placed on normal or heavy duty and deep rinse, on top of low water level washing.

Post# 1153738 , Reply# 53   7/9/2022 at 00:37 (517 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
whirlpool direct drives

I'd bring back the whirlpool direct drives with clean touch controls that will fill up completely to the brim, along with a choice of tap hot, tap cold, and 50/50 for warm.

Post# 1153937 , Reply# 54   7/10/2022 at 18:38 (515 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
energy crisis

It seems like the energy crisis is getting worse, so you know what that means... more cold water washers are being forced on us even more. It's only gonna get worse!

Post# 1153997 , Reply# 55   7/11/2022 at 11:46 (514 days old) by georgect (Fairfield, CT)        
Americans Need To DITCH The Top Loader & Move To Front Load

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Americans need to end their love affair with top loaders already.
The days are over of being able to fill up a huge tub of HOT water and getting your clothes clean in 30/45 minutes.
Now we have so many states with drought conditions that we really need to use less water.
A front loaders just makes sense. Europe has been using them for like ever and they work.
You can't wash everything in COLD. You actually need HOT and WARM water washes to clean/lift dirt, oil, sebum etc.
Europe doesn't use exclusive COLD water washes.
Educated use is all it takes. Use HOT on whites (and maybe some bleach) to keep your clothes AND machine clean.
My 7 year old Electrolux Wave-Touch (70 Series) washes great and has no foul odor at all.
I use HOT washes for whites with bleach and borax. Colors get Eco-Hot (warmer than warm but not full hot) or Warm.
When washing is done for the day, wipe down boot (door and gasket) leave door open, wipe down detergent drawer and leave open.
And when the washer calls for a Clean Cycle (every 50 washes), I do it.
Maybe I'm pro-front loader because I grew up with a Westinghouse front loader (that even used more water than today's front loaders) but still used WAY less than any top loader of that time.
Front loaders just make more sense.

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Post# 1184141 , Reply# 56   7/4/2023 at 11:28 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cold water washing pushing

Guys, they're still gonna push this cold water washing nonsense. Just look at all the washer offerings.

Post# 1184149 , Reply# 57   7/4/2023 at 13:37 by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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My next door neighbors have a Whirlpool cold water washer but it has a heater. Both washer and marching heat pump dryer use regular 110 plugs and washer on;y has a cold water inlet. Dryer takes forever to dry a load and then you have to empty a tank of water.

Post# 1184197 , Reply# 58   7/4/2023 at 23:46 by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        

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TBH I don't like cold water washing. My F&P TL fills a little with warm or hot water and then cascades the concentrated hot/warm sudsy water over the load with the tub slowly rotating for about 5 minutes. It then fills up with cold to agitate. Always get great results.

In Japan they seem to exclusively use cold water washing. Their machines (mostly TLs) only have one fill hose for cold fill.

Post# 1184198 , Reply# 59   7/5/2023 at 00:48 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Since this thread was resurrected from the dead....

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Cold water only washing machines are not exactly new nor novel idea. Many washing machines sold in Asia are cold fill only. This applies to Japan and few other places where not only do top loading impeller washers of all sorts hold major market share, but again they are usually cold fill only.

My little Haier HLP21N is a "cold water" only washer, advise of course one disregards.

Japan has a whole vast and bewildering array of laundry detergents, bleaches and so forth designed to work in cold water. They also sell huge amounts of washing machine "cleaners" and "disinfectants" designed to cope with what happens when using cold water only...

Post# 1184236 , Reply# 60   7/5/2023 at 17:37 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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yeah i do what Launderess does in mine in any case

wash in medium water detergent and oxy

I want my undies socks and kerchiefs clean please

We do have Lysol Laundry sanitizer at DG in 2 sizes

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Post# 1184251 , Reply# 61   7/5/2023 at 22:49 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I have a feeling...

that this stupid wash of everything in cold water will continue as long as these "energy advocates" are in charge. It's all about money. They don't care if your clothes are clean. I do care.
Let me wash the way I want. I will wash in cold when I want to! That is for darks! Period! Lights get warm, whites get hot with bleach. Period. I use fabric softener with deep rinse for everything. Period.
I am so sick and tired of machines that dumb down the temps. That is so stupid!

Post# 1184252 , Reply# 62   7/5/2023 at 22:52 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Don't hold your breath.

Don't hold your breath. There's gonna be a new crop of cold water washers that are being forced onto us whether we like it or not. I don't like washing everything in cold water. Sturdy cotton darks or delicates need cold water washing and to treat protein stains like blood. Rinsing in cold is fine.

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