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Bought a Kitchenaid KDS 20 . . . Racks Still Available?
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Post# 847248   10/23/2015 at 21:58 (3,078 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        

I am actually picking it up tomorrow, an eBay purchase. One rack has a small spot beginning to rust. Can you still buy new racks? If not, will any other models interchange? Any other items I should just replace as a matter of course for preventative maintenance?

It won't be installed immediately, will await the mini kitchen remodel that is still a year or two away, but, it will have to be as perfect as is possible to pacify my wife who is pessimistic about vintage appliances, in any case, so I want to help it out any way I can. Gonna pick it up at 6:30 tomorrow morning!

I will continue looking for its' portable equivalent , as the current DW is dying, and we do not have cabinetry for a built-in





Post# 847249 , Reply# 1   10/23/2015 at 22:00 (3,078 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
Sorry bout the double post...

...can anyone remove the duplicate? Thanks.

Post# 847252 , Reply# 2   10/23/2015 at 22:08 (3,078 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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If you can't find replacement rack you can fix the rusted area with Rerack. You can find it on ebay and at Home Depot or Lowes. It may help carry you through until you can find a replacement rack.

Post# 847253 , Reply# 3   10/23/2015 at 22:18 (3,078 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
Ea56, ...Thanks.

Will hit up the local HD when we get home on Sunday.

Again, being an idiot, I apologize for double posting.


Post# 847254 , Reply# 4   10/23/2015 at 22:19 (3,078 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        
I have racks available..

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They are from a 23rd series....KA experts...will they fit his 20 series?


Post# 847261 , Reply# 5   10/23/2015 at 23:44 (3,078 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I think the 23 series racks will fit in a 20, but you may notice there's a little less substance to them.  I know I mixed interior and exterior parts between a 22 series (ISE clone) and a 20, and I used the larger 23 series utensil basket with my 22/ISE.

 

If it's just minor rust that needs repair, you can also try to find blue plastisol repair.  The only shades I was able to find in the Re-Rack brand were white and gray.  I ended up with Maytag brand that a local parts shop still carried, which is blue, but it's a deeper blue than the original plastisol shade used on the racks.

 

 


Post# 847276 , Reply# 6   10/24/2015 at 02:41 (3,078 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Here ya go...

 

These will fit 18-20 series.

 

newjersey.craigslist.org/app/523...


Post# 847285 , Reply# 7   10/24/2015 at 06:25 (3,078 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
toploader55, Thanks for the link!...

...just shot him an email. Steve.

Post# 847298 , Reply# 8   10/24/2015 at 07:35 (3,078 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        
I have racks available..

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Here are the pics...just a few spots that need touch up with re-rack...just asking what I paid for them which is $20 plus shipping

Jerry

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Post# 847328 , Reply# 9   10/24/2015 at 11:29 (3,077 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
Dishwasher Picked Up . . .

. . . It is in excellent shape, looking forward to getting it home ( we are visiting friends in SoCal) so I can begin fine cleaning and evaluating what needs to be done to make it near perfect.

The racks from the C.L. ad were sold, unfortunately, had an email fom the owner on my way down to Corona this a.m., but I am grateful for the heads-up.

Moparwash, thank you for the offer, the ones in the new washer are actually a bit better than the ones in the photos, having only one small spot between the two racks combined!

I will try to make it flawless, if possible, so I can take all excuses for opposition away from my wife! I have the time to do this, as kitchen remodel is in the future, but anything needing replacement, I will try to locate new, if available, or NOS, or excellent used replacements.

I will order all the literature available for it, but, are there any areas in particular to watch for? Cheers, Steve.


Post# 847330 , Reply# 10   10/24/2015 at 11:34 (3,077 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Steve

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Certain mechanical parts are NLA, but I don't know off hand which ones they are.   Other parts are still available through Hobart.

 

You can use the Searchalator to find discussions that cover various parts people have had to locate in the past, but you'll probably have a lot of sifting to do.

 

SteveT is the resident Hobart/KA expert here, so if you find there's something in particular you'd like to have as a spare, he'll know what you'll have to do to find it.

 

A parts donor machine is always a good idea . . .

 

Ralph

 

 


Post# 847337 , Reply# 11   10/24/2015 at 12:40 (3,077 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
Thanks, Ralph.

I will try to contact Steve and ask him which parts he'd recommend I collect for spares. I will also begin reading old threads.

After only being a member for a short time, my shop is beginning to fill up with vintage appliances for the future kitchen/laundry remodel. Beside the KDS 20, I've a 1947 GE fridge ( used as a second), a 1952 O' Keefe and Merrit stove, and a vintage natural gas heater I would like to restore. And I may keep my eye peeled for a backup parts DW!


Post# 847398 , Reply# 12   10/24/2015 at 17:44 (3,077 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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If you don't find an exact match, you may need to find ANY rack that is similar in width and carefully modify the racks by bending the wire in a way that will fit. That's the nice thing about wire made products, they can be easily bent and reshaped.

Be sure to seal any breaks in the plastisol.

If you go the repair route, be sure to use steel wool to remove all rust and loose plastisol, then wipe down with paint thinner to clean the surface thoroughly. Then apply the new plastisol and let dry.

I don't want to believe that such a new(er) DW doesn't have replacement parts available.

Best of luck in restoring these and solving the rack issue.


Post# 847485 , Reply# 13   10/25/2015 at 00:53 (3,077 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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If the racks aren't too bad you can take a Drimel tool with the little silver colored steal brush, grind down through the vinyl coating until you get to the rust, keep grinding until you get all the rust off (down to steal), then mix up some JB Weld or get some Sugru and cover the bare steal. The color won't match but it will stop the rust. It works.

Post# 847530 , Reply# 14   10/25/2015 at 10:44 (3,076 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
beekeyknee...

...will try to pick up a Dremel tool and a small wire brush on the way back into town today. Never thought about top coating with JB Weld before coating with Plastisol. I had, though, envisioned rust working away below a newly applied thin coating of vinyl if I didn't get every bit of rust. Cutting away old coating, and removing rust with the Dremel tool sounds like the ticket.

Well, going to tear into some homemade biscuits and gravy, then start our 350 mile drive home. Thanks!


Post# 847546 , Reply# 15   10/25/2015 at 14:26 (3,076 days old) by STEVET (West Melbourne, FL)        
Looky! Looky!

Okay, I guess I will just have to breakdown and offer this to you or anyone else who may want a very good condition lower rack for their 19-22 Kitchenaid Dishwasher.
It will fit the 23 series as well but lacks the lift out plate section on the left side.

I have had this sitting in the attic and it's time to liquidate the stock room!

If anyone is interested, I would like to get $75.00 OBO and buyer pays the shipping.

It includes the silverware basket as well. Email me and let's see where this goes.



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Post# 847557 , Reply# 16   10/25/2015 at 16:17 (3,076 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
I don't have a rack but I have a question...

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With all these racks corroding, why has any manufacturer ever come up with the idea of using stainless steel and/or solid plastic racks? Would it be too expensive? Or is it a way to get consumers to keep buying new dishwashers? Seems like this problem should have been solved decades ago.

Post# 847622 , Reply# 17   10/25/2015 at 21:17 (3,076 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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All your points are correct Neptune Bob.


Commercial Dishwasher racks are solid plastic. With all the exposure and use a commercial dishwasher gets daily, can we imagine how quickly these metal coated racks would last.


Post# 847631 , Reply# 18   10/25/2015 at 22:30 (3,076 days old) by Ibuzzard (Boulder Creek California)        
STEVET...

Sending you an email. Steve.

Post# 847657 , Reply# 19   10/26/2015 at 06:52 (3,076 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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There was a time back in the 60s when a division of Metropolitan Wire called Sani-Stack made Commercial Dishmachine  racks.

They were chrome/SS rack frames with a wire insert coated with PlastiSol.  There were Plate Racks, Cup and Bowl, Flat Racks (for Silverware) Compartmented Glass Racks, etc.

 

Due to quality, care and pride in manufacturing, these racks seemed to last a long time. And boy were they heavy. Most dish machine operators back in the day usually had pretty good sized biceps and forearms due to lifting and handling these racks for an 8 hour shift.

 

I can say that the injected molded type racks available today in the seasonal restaurant I work at (we're open for 5 months per year) only last about 3-4 seasons. The chemicals seem to break down the plastic rather quickly. The pegs on the plate racks snap off easily and because of their light weight, they get tossed and thrown around quite a bit.

 

I tried to scare up some pics, but need more time.


Post# 847661 , Reply# 20   10/26/2015 at 07:38 (3,076 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Nice rack Steve!!

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:)


Post# 847701 , Reply# 21   10/26/2015 at 12:41 (3,075 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
Thanks, Raplh

You always had a way with words!


Post# 847765 , Reply# 22   10/26/2015 at 18:32 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
STEVE --

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Check your sbcglobal e-mail.



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