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anybody remember this 59 GE?
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Post# 855327   12/6/2015 at 12:30 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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So a few months back I went to an estate sale and saw this 1959 GE dishwasher.

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Post# 855328 , Reply# 1   12/6/2015 at 12:31 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Here is the link to my original post.

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Post# 855330 , Reply# 2   12/6/2015 at 12:33 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Guess where I found it today? That's right in about 30 pieces in this junk pile... more pictures to come.

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Post# 855331 , Reply# 3   12/6/2015 at 12:38 (3,055 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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That's the same dishwasher in the same Woodtone Brown shade that was in the kitchen at my friends' house in Reno up until at least 1980.  The rest of the kitchen was GE, including the Woodtone brown metal cabinetry, but no wall fridge.  They had a turquoise '60s Frigidaire instead, and it looked so wrong in there.


Post# 855351 , Reply# 4   12/6/2015 at 15:07 (3,055 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
OH NO!!

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what a shame!
I wonder if you would have had any luck if you would of stuck a note on the door with your phone number expressing your interest??

That's just awful
:o(


Post# 855353 , Reply# 5   12/6/2015 at 15:10 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Ok fellas, I need advice. Other than some nuts and bolts and the silverware rack (grr) what am I missing? I thought I'd go by the place tomorrow and offer a reward for the rack and anything that might be missing. Where do the metal clamps go? Or are they off something else? What held the knob on originally? Bolt and washer or something specific that I missed. How is the lid held in the cabinet?

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Post# 855354 , Reply# 6   12/6/2015 at 15:11 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I did hippiedoll. I also left it with the estate sale people.

Post# 855355 , Reply# 7   12/6/2015 at 15:13 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Though they said the chances of the owners calling Mr were slim.

Post# 855357 , Reply# 8   12/6/2015 at 15:36 (3,055 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Eureka

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Post# 855361 , Reply# 9   12/6/2015 at 16:01 (3,055 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Isnt it amazing!

How STUPID people are today, instead of calling you and getting a few bucks out of it, they would rather trash it!I always leave notes at estate sales...Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesent!


Post# 855367 , Reply# 10   12/6/2015 at 16:30 (3,055 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Confused Here

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If the new owners did not value the dishwasher, ok, they could have removed it.  But why did they have to completely disassemble (i.e., destroy) the unit????

 

She was a beautiful appliance when you first found her.  Hopefully you can put her all back together and bring her back to life.

 

lawrence


Post# 855376 , Reply# 11   12/6/2015 at 16:53 (3,055 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Thanks everyone.

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Alright fellas, I need to know before that Junk pile goes away an I missing anything else? Paul? John?

I figured the two metal pieces go to the side of the trim by the lock. I still am not sure how the brown lid is held on the machine. Do I have everything I need?


Post# 855380 , Reply# 12   12/6/2015 at 17:32 (3,055 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
HOPING you can get all you need, Will.

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What on earth is WRONG with people? I cannot believe they didn't try to find a home for it before...disassembling it?

How are you going to find the parts in that pile? I hope you can put Humpty back together again.


Phil


Post# 855382 , Reply# 13   12/6/2015 at 17:40 (3,055 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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OMG!! Will, it looks like you have the main components - thank the powers that be that they didn't cut the cabinet!! The tub looks good but your lid gasket looks to be shot (#1 problem with these dishwashers apparently!) The only other thing you could be missing is the original water inlet valve and feed tube that goes through the lid. If you can't find this, you can sub a "modern" one...

The lid is held in place by metal rods; if the original ones are missing, though, it should be fairly easy to substitute something.

I've got a parts breakdown of the '59 Princess machines somewhere (it may be on paper down in Ogden and I won't be there until the weekend) but I'll be digging around looking for you!



Post# 855387 , Reply# 14   12/6/2015 at 18:01 (3,055 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        
Thanks Paul!

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I have a feeling I'll be substituting. I was so busy looking for everything, I forgot to mention that I couldn't find the water valve and feed tube or the drain tube for that matter. Yay projects!

Post# 855388 , Reply# 15   12/6/2015 at 18:03 (3,055 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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The plastic dial is held onto the hub with a Tinnerman clip. There's a huge GE pull-out dishwasher service manual in Ephemera, it should give you some idea of knee-bones connected to the....thigh bone, etc. You need to gather all the parts in one place and take pictures so we can help. What brown lid are you talking about??

 

Those chrome metal clips go on either side of the grille you're holding in your hand in picture #9. The interior lid is hung from the cabinet lid armature in picture #10. You need to find the pink rubber gasket that fits around the rim of the tank; that's very important. Good luck!


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Post# 855391 , Reply# 16   12/6/2015 at 18:12 (3,055 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Thank you, Ken! That's great news! Paul mentioned that the lid (Picture 13 and 14) was held on by pegs. I think I see them in picture 10. The dishwasher is in the garage at the moment. I can't get to it at the moment to take more pics, but all the parts I have are pictured in reply 5 (with the silverware rack in reply 8).

Post# 855392 , Reply# 17   12/6/2015 at 18:14 (3,055 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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Near death experience! This will be one of the great stories round here when you get it back to where it should be.


Post# 855394 , Reply# 18   12/6/2015 at 18:15 (3,055 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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There was no sign of the gasket, but best I can tell there wasn't one in the estate sale picture either, perhaps I can make one to work when the time comes,

Post# 855404 , Reply# 19   12/6/2015 at 19:06 (3,055 days old) by FEster (Lafayette La USA)        
What a waste. *%&#%@* !!!

Let me guess, was it sold to house flippers? Did they can s**tcan the oven or keep it ? Growing up, my father had the same shortsightedness. I found a victorian era croquet set in the loft of a shed, complete with mallets, stand, balls, hoops and stakes. Thinking it was cool, I got it down and started brushing off the dust to reveal the original paint. Dad took one look, declared it junk and tossed it on a brush fire he had going. Later, I saw a similar set at a local antique store. When I told the owner abut the set I found, he winced and said "tell your dad he burnt up a hundred dollar bill". That was in 1972 dollars. I don't get some people...hell I don't get most people. Stupid and useless.

Post# 855406 , Reply# 20   12/6/2015 at 19:13 (3,055 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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Great save. There's no limit to people's stupidity or don't care attitude.

Post# 855407 , Reply# 21   12/6/2015 at 19:16 (3,055 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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You can see the wall oven to the left in the first picture of the junk pile. I left it as there was no desire from anyone for it on here, I didn't need it, and it was in a similar state to the dishwasher (bits and pieces).

Post# 855412 , Reply# 22   12/6/2015 at 19:27 (3,055 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Good on ya Will !

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For persevering and ignoring stupidity. Because that is sheer stupidity what happened to that machine! 
There was a buyer right there willing and able and they just threw their hands up.

 

When it comes to home appliances I've seen this over and over again. Its weird!

 

I've even seen it from junkyard doobies "guarding" the pile appliances before its carted off to gawd knows where!


Post# 855574 , Reply# 23   12/7/2015 at 16:18 (3,054 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I'm glad I went yesterday! It's pouring here today! Wet electronics is not a good thing. Thankfully it hadn't rained in the last week or so and there was no sign of standing water in the machine.

Post# 855578 , Reply# 24   12/7/2015 at 16:51 (3,054 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I wonder if it is possible some new home buyers fear a scam type situation when they encounter a note on a vintage appliance?   They are gutting a house in a new to them neighborhood and no doubt have expensive tools and building supplies on site in a house they cannot live in at present.   That is all I can think of for a reason  not to call. 

Will, I hope you find all the parts you need.  What a  horrible fate, it sat there in pristine shape for 56 years.

Has anyone had better luck with the actual real estate company instead of estate sale brokers?


Post# 855597 , Reply# 25   12/7/2015 at 20:05 (3,054 days old) by Travis ()        

It's really a shame what they did to that dishwasher.  In all fairness to the people remodeling the house, they likely never saw the note.  If they dishwasher had items inside it at the sale, it was likely emptied after the sale. and there goes the note.

 

Unfortunately, a dishwasher is a built in appliance.  Very few realtors are going to remember to pass on the interest of a 60 year old appliance to a buyer.  If I were to leave a note, I would zip tie a tag to a rack or shelf.  All bets are off though, so many people are careless and stupid.


Post# 855660 , Reply# 26   12/8/2015 at 07:28 (3,053 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Travis made a good point about the buyers/flippers of a house. The sale closes and the demolition crew comes in with instructions to "demo the kitchen and get it into the driveway or dumpster before lunch." I've looked at these pull-out dishwashers and un-installing them can be a real challenge, especially if you've no knowledge of how they are installed and come apart.

In most cases, the cabinets are built around the shell of the machine and hard-plumbed into a galvanized plumbing system that needs a sawz-all to remove. I considered one in a house a block from me, knew it would be saved by a friend on the board here and short of spending the day pulling out the kitchen and re-plumbing that end of the house to cap the lines intertwined with the sink and laundry room below, that dishwasher was staying. And it did. The scrapper likely got the drawer section of the machine and the dumpster got the shell/cabinet when it came out with the surrounding cabinets. Not as easy as it looks with these machines.

I had another run-in with a pull out GE, the owner would sell it to me IF I removed the machine and installed a newer dishwasher for her as part of the "deal". I told her to take a flying leap off of a high bridge and ran away. Hours of work and I still get to pay for the precious antique - lol.
*Now if it had been the rare 30" Empress model, I wouldn't have had a choice or Ken would have flown out here and boxed my ears to let that go to a scrapper. :-)


Post# 855665 , Reply# 27   12/8/2015 at 08:09 (3,053 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        
Thank you for saving that wonderful machine!

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The appliance gods are smiling!

Post# 855841 , Reply# 28   12/9/2015 at 14:54 (3,052 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Does anyone happen to have a picture of the original water inlet valve (with or without the feed tube)? I'm thinking about taking one last look to see if I can find it.

Post# 856182 , Reply# 29   12/11/2015 at 18:45 (3,050 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Paging Paul (turquoisedude)

check your email, please.


Post# 856277 , Reply# 30   12/12/2015 at 10:56 (3,049 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Seems like the remodeling folks have watched a few too many of those renovation TV shows. You know the ones that go in with sledge hammers and just beat the living hell out of everything. It is clearly to add drama and interest to a show for the people that don't appreciate craftsmanship.

The one thing I never got in about the demolition idea, while I realize that all the cabinets etc may be going, I'm not sure its a good idea to "tenderize" the framing and the structure of the home!!

As an aside these shows are likely the same ones that forced all modern kitchen remodels to have granite counters and stainless skinned appliances...


Post# 856460 , Reply# 31   12/13/2015 at 14:35 (3,048 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Will, here's a shot of the valve...

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Post# 856485 , Reply# 32   12/13/2015 at 18:14 (3,048 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Thanks Cory!

I went back one last time to look for it, but there was no sign. Those roofing shingles were thick in that pile. I'd love to have found the kitchen sink as well, but I suspect it's under the roof sadly. I'd love to find one in nice condition with a good hoodie (sp) ring for my eventual kitchen remodel. I have a stainless one, but it's just not the same.


Post# 856486 , Reply# 33   12/13/2015 at 18:23 (3,048 days old) by ken (NYS)        
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They are still available.

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Post# 856523 , Reply# 34   12/14/2015 at 06:48 (3,047 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Being that is was brass and copper it probably went in the scrap metal pile.


Post# 857330 , Reply# 35   12/18/2015 at 18:09 (3,043 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Hey fellas,

As much as I hate to do it, I'm thinking about letting this one go. Realistically, I'm not going to cut up my original knotty pine cabinets for a dishwasher and I can find something later if I move to a house where I need to replace a modern one to make it more vintage. It's in pieces as you've seen but is in good shape on the whole and could be repaired relatively easily. I've already had people write me about certain parts (the motor and top), but I'd rather sell it as a whole machine. If I decide for sure to let this go, is anyone interested in buying the whole machine from me? IF not does anyone want to buy any of the other parts? I haven't decided 100%, but I'm definitely leaning that way.



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