Thread Number: 63012
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
67' Frigidaire Imperial Rapidry1000 |
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Post# 855877 , Reply# 1   12/9/2015 at 20:08 (3,058 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Lubricate a Rollermatic mechanism!!!! Keep any lubricants away from the rollers or any surface they contact!! If it's going off balance, make sure the load is distributed evenly (in quadrants) in the tub. |
Post# 855881 , Reply# 2   12/9/2015 at 20:33 (3,058 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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When a load goes OOB in a spin drain machine you usually have way too little clothing in the machine for the amount of water you used, or you are washing very heavy towels etc with much lighter items like sheets.
Rapid-Dry 1010 Frigidaire washers are one of my favorite Frigidaire machines I have two of them. |
Post# 855931 , Reply# 5   12/10/2015 at 06:51 (3,057 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 855936 , Reply# 6   12/10/2015 at 07:04 (3,057 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Under the ball joint you will see a castellated nut. Turning that nut will be tough but it is supposed to be tough. You can turn it with a bicycle wrench and you only need to turn it between 1/32-1/16 of an inch to shore up the bearing. It will feel very tight but that will eliminate the knocking which is caused by wear of the delrin bearing inside against the ball. It does not need lubricating, the delrin is self lubricating. The rollers are also self lubricating with a very dry black lubricant the only comes into play when they are turning, as the rollers heat the lubricant flows-- at room temperature it looks and feels like a black tar--well sometimes they used a gray compound too.
The biggest noise is created by loose or dirty clutch plates. They can chatter.
On the lid there maybe a loading diagram to show you how to load in quadrants, and for a solid tub machine the more clothes packed in the better. I've seen Robert cram towels in there thinking uh oh but his loads always balance- BASTARD ! Also a neat trick I've learned from JohnE is cut 4 squares of rug grip and place them under the legs , she won't move until hell freezes over. My "Fringedaire" used to walk all over the basement from one side to the other, now she is locked down !
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Post# 855977 , Reply# 8   12/10/2015 at 09:54 (3,057 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 855983 , Reply# 9   12/10/2015 at 10:33 (3,057 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Yes there is one lock screw, not two , never two , never saw two !
Wonderful machine for laundry. I wouldnt get into the clutch unless you really feel the need. Sometimes they just smooth out after use too. Its very important to load properly because you machine I think was introduced before the "Sure-Spin" clutch. That was introduced to create a lot of slip at start up so clothes didn't lump up in the wash water and cause OOB.
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Post# 856020 , Reply# 11   12/10/2015 at 14:47 (3,057 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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Post# 856024 , Reply# 12   12/10/2015 at 15:23 (3,057 days old) by PHMorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Thanks so much for the kind words everybody. I'm so glad there are other people out there who share the same weird washer infatuation that I do!! I will try and get some picture/ videos of them on here soon... I already tried once but did not succeed. |
Post# 856112 , Reply# 13   12/11/2015 at 07:48 (3,056 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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I love these machines and I'm glad you were fortunate to find one. There were so many of them around here in the late eighties and early nineties, but they must have all been dumped.
I'm also glad you found this site and had the same epiphany that most of us experienced. I still think the Rollermatics were some of the coolest washing machines ever marketed. |
Post# 856333 , Reply# 14   12/12/2015 at 19:08 (3,055 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Was able to upload some pics!! |
Post# 856337 , Reply# 16   12/12/2015 at 19:31 (3,055 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 856345 , Reply# 17   12/12/2015 at 20:16 (3,055 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Very Nice! Congratulations! I've never seen an "Imperial" before, just a Custom Imperial. I have two '67s similar. A Custom Deluxe and a Custom Imperial. If you need advice this is a great place for it. I've had these machines apart in every form and fashion possible in the last 7 years I've been a member of AW. Check out my threads on here. |
Post# 856350 , Reply# 18   12/12/2015 at 20:29 (3,055 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 856351 , Reply# 19   12/12/2015 at 20:34 (3,055 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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Post# 856362 , Reply# 20   12/12/2015 at 21:39 (3,055 days old) by rapidry1000 (San Francisco)   |   | |
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The washer had an infinite water level control with the introduction of metered fill for the washer. |
Post# 856363 , Reply# 21   12/12/2015 at 21:41 (3,054 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 856369 , Reply# 22   12/12/2015 at 22:27 (3,054 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)   |   | |
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Post# 856405 , Reply# 23   12/13/2015 at 08:34 (3,054 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Beautiful and rare pair, it is so cool to find a QUALITY low use pair of machines that have been well cared for as well. What is the story about these machines that allowed them to survive?
These are fun machines to use but if you do more than a few loads of laundry a week I would hope you have other machines to share the work, keeping these machines going would be about as much work and expense as trying to drive a 67 Oldsmobile Tornado every day to work etc. and the parts for this washer and dryer are even harder to get than parts for the Olds.
Keep us posted how you make out with these machines, there are several members here including myself that know a lot about these rare and unusual machines.
John L. |
Post# 856475 , Reply# 25   12/13/2015 at 16:48 (3,054 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 856478 , Reply# 26   12/13/2015 at 16:59 (3,054 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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That's what is happening.. a little piece of rubber came out of the top of the ball joint... what should I do? Try and tighten the nut, or take it apart? If it needs to be rebuilt where could I get the seal that I need or how would I make one? |
Post# 856498 , Reply# 27   12/13/2015 at 21:44 (3,053 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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Let's talk about what is happening here. First rule that I operate by is that if it ain't broke don't fix it. Please tell me ( and the rest of us following here who are also experts ) what is wrong with the machine and the agitate arm. A video would be nice too. What I don't want is to see you tearing into something unnecessarily. What you probably saw come from the top of the ball joint was a small piece of the wicking material from inside that is getting rotten. Even so that's not a cause per se to tear the whole thing apart. Let take this one step at a time together. At this point there is no need to remove anything from the machine.
I also read above that you mentioned that you thought the ball joint was making some noise, just a little, and at times. These mechanisms aren't noted for their quiet operation and if the machine has been sitting a while a good workout may be just what is needed to settle it down. I've seen many a Frigidaire act strange after sitting too long. |
Post# 856501 , Reply# 28   12/13/2015 at 22:01 (3,053 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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It should be quite easy to find where the noise comes from. It could also come from an agitate arm bearing that's a bit loose or by the agitate shaft bushing that's worn.
BTW, your machine should have the Sure-Spin clutch. By 1967, all models had it. And your machine could be from 1967 but it's a 1968 "N" model. Most Frigidaire washers built between mid-1967 to mid-1970 were "N" models. |
Post# 856517 , Reply# 30   12/14/2015 at 05:51 (3,053 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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You mean the agitator shaft bearing is loose (not on the ball joint end but on the other end)? If you have a YouTube or Flickr account, you can post a video there and just copy the link in this thread. (You Tube videos will be automatically embedded with the link to the video, you don't need to select the "embed" link)
I don't know if you already downloaded the service information from the "Manuals & Literature" section of this site for the 1968 "N" model Rollermatic washers but it's available. Here's the link: www.automatice.org/cgi-bin/index.... |
Post# 856577 , Reply# 32   12/14/2015 at 15:25 (3,053 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Hope this works!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO phmorrow's LINK |
Post# 856586 , Reply# 33   12/14/2015 at 16:46 (3,053 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 856592 , Reply# 34   12/14/2015 at 17:25 (3,053 days old) by PHMorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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The video link above should work now. |
Post# 856593 , Reply# 35   12/14/2015 at 17:30 (3,053 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 856599 , Reply# 36   12/14/2015 at 18:16 (3,053 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Be now!! Finally. |
Post# 856601 , Reply# 37   12/14/2015 at 18:24 (3,053 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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Post# 856612 , Reply# 38   12/14/2015 at 19:45 (3,053 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Be now!! Finally. |
Post# 856618 , Reply# 39   12/14/2015 at 20:33 (3,053 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)   |   | |
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I sincerely don't think you have anything there to be concerned about. Most of the Rollermatics I've heard (including my own) sound like this or louder in some cases. Most 1-18's are definitely louder. Others here may differ on my opinion however. Phil is more attuned to the sounds than I am and can maybe provide futher advice. Other members as well have taken to great lengths to sound insulate their machines.
Phil, by the way, while we are discussing these particular machines have you ever come up with a good solution to replace that darn ring nut that holds on the clutch? All of them I've worked on always breaks the locking tabs off and then you have to mess with using Loctite. |
Post# 856631 , Reply# 40   12/14/2015 at 21:42 (3,052 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Joe,
I never had to replace one of the tabs on the lock ring, I was careful not to break tabs on mine and reused it without problems but I don't think I could have done it many times! Pat, There's something that makes noise, I can see that the agitate roller isn't moving smoothly, it's hard to tell if it's what makes that noise or not. Look at the roller for a flat spot... You can try to move parts manually while the washer is disconnected. If the ball joint, the acorn-shaped coupling above it, the agitate shaft bushing or the agitate arm bearing... |
Post# 856641 , Reply# 41   12/14/2015 at 22:45 (3,052 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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I moved the mechanism manually and it seems to be smooth with no noise. When in spin cycle it has a little bit of noise inside the wash tub... when you put pressure on the agitator the noise stops. Does this make any sense? |
Post# 856680 , Reply# 42   12/15/2015 at 05:18 (3,052 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 856691 , Reply# 43   12/15/2015 at 07:09 (3,052 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 856692 , Reply# 44   12/15/2015 at 07:27 (3,052 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 856699 , Reply# 45   12/15/2015 at 08:42 (3,052 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Mine is nothing like that at all. Mine just barely moves just enough to make some noise I guess. Is it normal for the agitator to make noise during spin cycle? ( knock sound ) |
Post# 856793 , Reply# 46   12/15/2015 at 20:31 (3,052 days old) by davy1063 (Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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doesn't sound much different than yours, maybe a little joint clatter.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO davy1063's LINK |
Post# 856854 , Reply# 47   12/16/2015 at 04:21 (3,051 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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I think the "lint-away" light was used on all 1968-70 washers that were pressure-filled.
I have never seen a machine which had that light (my only pressure-filled Rollermatic is a 1967 model). I'm wondering when it comes on? Just during the overflow rinses? Does it come on during the overflow period of the "soak" cycle? About the noise during spin, you should have a look at the agitate roller while the washer spins. If it bounces like in the agitation video, it could be what causes the noise. One of my 1-18 washers had a flat spot on it's agitate roller. It didn't make exactly the metallic noise your machine does during the agitation period but it did make a strange irregular noise during the spin period. It can also be caused by the agitate shaft bushing. On my 1968 Gold Crown washer there was also some noise during the spin cycle before I replaced that bushing. |
Post# 856864 , Reply# 48   12/16/2015 at 06:18 (3,051 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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I had that washer model for several years. |
Post# 856917 , Reply# 49   12/16/2015 at 12:29 (3,051 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 857204 , Reply# 50   12/17/2015 at 22:20 (3,049 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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Guys for all of your advice. Does anyone know where I could possibly find the lower agitator shaft bushings? |
Post# 857231 , Reply# 51   12/18/2015 at 03:03 (3,049 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Eh, that's the problem... I had to have one fabricated! Frigidaire never sold that part separately...
See this thread about it: www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... |
Post# 857277 , Reply# 54   12/18/2015 at 10:22 (3,049 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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There was no exact version of this machine in the 1967 "L" line. This "N" model was made from mid-1967 to mid-1970. The 1967 models had lighter color control panels, either white or matched with the cabinet color. Black/Silver was used in the "N" and "P" lines. (the "P" models were introduced later as 1969 models in 1968 and were made at the same time as other "N" models).
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Post# 857406 , Reply# 55   12/19/2015 at 12:16 (3,048 days old) by phmorrow (Knoxville, TN)   |   | |
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A junk 1-18.... the cabinet is junk but the mechanism looks to be in good shape with some other parts also... will the agitator shaft bushings interchange with a solid tub machine? |
Post# 857469 , Reply# 56   12/19/2015 at 21:44 (3,047 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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