Thread Number: 63167
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Post# 857522   12/20/2015 at 03:00 (3,022 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Well sort of but I do think they're from the 80's. I love the set I paid a fair price for them and they are in great condition. My only concern is the dryer. It takes quite a while to dry a normal sized load. Usually over 60 minutes. I've cleaned out the lint not that there was much. The heating element is working and there seems to be sufficient air flow from what I can tell. I've cleaned all of the sensors too. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Post# 857523 , Reply# 1   12/20/2015 at 03:01 (3,022 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857524 , Reply# 2   12/20/2015 at 04:17 (3,022 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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What about the felt seals around the drum, if it has them? I had a WP once with worn out felts and it would pull in unheated air causing it to take longer to dry. On the other hand, my gas GE takes right at 60 minutes to dry an all cotton load of towels, socks, shorts, etc even after being spun in the Asko and with brand new rigid ducting, but it's always been that way. Sheets take only 30mins or less. Just a thought!
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Post# 857536 , Reply# 4   12/20/2015 at 05:59 (3,021 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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I'll go with the temperature sensor(s) being out of it perameters.
One way to test is to manually sense the temperature when drying a load. Put a standard load of freshly laundered sheets in the dryer at medium to med-high temperature. After about 10-15 minutes, open the door and quickly put your hand into the middle of the batch of laundry. It should be relatively HOT and moist, as should the air inside the dryer. If it's not, you'll know the thermostat is cutting out too soon, and not allowing the heater to developing enough heat. These sensors are relatively cheap, and easy to change out. Best of luck with this. You have a good quality set there, and you should continue to get many more years of service from them. |
Post# 857563 , Reply# 5   12/20/2015 at 11:43 (3,021 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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This dryer doesn't have sensors in the drum as it's not electronic control drying. It uses the exhaust temperature sensing method. I think this is from around 1988 or 1989. My fall 1986 first-gen Lady Shredmore had Heavy, Medium, and Light soil designators rather than the above ex heavy, heavy and normal. Like the above where Normal is a different font color, mine on the medium was a different font color, but did not have the rectangular outline around the word--different font color indicating preferred setting choice. |
Post# 857568 , Reply# 6   12/20/2015 at 15:02 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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I did pull the cover off the blower and surprisingly there was no build up. I'll probably order new sensors but I also want to check the vent out of the house. This dryer in fact does have the sensors inside the drum. What would you recommend to clean them with. Also, the vent hose slightly swells when its running and it gets pretty warm after a while. The hose is brand new.
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Post# 857569 , Reply# 7   12/20/2015 at 15:49 (3,021 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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Yes, check the entire route of the duct. I once bought a house that had a 30' duct, which is too long. At the back of the house, the previous owners had built a deck and the vent hood was in the way and they basically put wood over the majority of the hole. The duct it turned out was totally clogged with lint and of course the dryer left with the house wasn't able to dry clothes.
I re routed the vent so it was only 6' long. I washed out the ducting pieces I re-used to it was all clean and worked fine after that. If you don't have build up in the lines coming off the dryer, this is probably not your issue. You shouldn't have build-up directly in the fan compartment otherwise the fan wouldn't be able to turn at all. |
Post# 857571 , Reply# 8   12/20/2015 at 16:00 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857575 , Reply# 9   12/20/2015 at 16:32 (3,021 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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It could be going through the roof, it could also be going into the attic, or through a soffit.
You should try doing the test suggested above, but take a piece of clean ducting and attach it to the dryer and route it temporarily out a window or door. If the dryer works properly that way, you'll know the problem is in the ducting. Some of these pics may apply. |
Post# 857577 , Reply# 10   12/20/2015 at 16:49 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857582 , Reply# 11   12/20/2015 at 17:32 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857585 , Reply# 12   12/20/2015 at 17:41 (3,021 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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My dryer is next to a window in my bathroom. I have flex metal hose and a vent outlet into a lever for inside or outside to a regular outside vent. I have 2 pieces of Styrofoam that fit in the window perfectly, so when I am drying, moisture goes outside and cold stays there, it is a PITA to do everytime you dry. But if I want a warm towel,robe and nice warm bathroom I have it in minutes directing the heat into the room for a couple minutes. Venting outside like here where its normally frigid lets so much of that cold air right into the dryer and into the house, as no vent seals perfect I have found.
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Post# 857587 , Reply# 13   12/20/2015 at 17:47 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857588 , Reply# 14   12/20/2015 at 17:55 (3,021 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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Post# 857591 , Reply# 15   12/20/2015 at 18:04 (3,021 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 857595 , Reply# 17   12/20/2015 at 18:30 (3,021 days old) by ken (NYS)   |   | |
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Post# 857596 , Reply# 18   12/20/2015 at 18:39 (3,021 days old) by LaVidaBoem ()   |   | |
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Yes Ken,...its just that simple on the element.
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Post# 857614 , Reply# 19   12/20/2015 at 20:51 (3,021 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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There's gold text "Electronic Sensor" above the start button. Damp clothes making contact across the sensor bars causes the timer to stall ... so the timer won't stall if there's residue on them preventing completion of the circuit, which will make the cycle shorter, not longer. The clothes will come out damp due to insufficient drying time. Regards to needing 60+ mins to dry a load, both the auto-dry cycle and timed take comparable amount of time? The load fully dries, it just takes more time than reasonable? This is the same exhaust duct on which you previously had a dryer? Did it exhibit the same characteristics? The "swelling" of the flexduct during operation perhaps is a clue confirming there's an exhaust outlet restriction. |
Post# 857620 , Reply# 20   12/20/2015 at 21:32 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857628 , Reply# 22   12/20/2015 at 23:53 (3,021 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The hose is brand new.The hose between the dryer and the wall is probably not the problem, unless it's too long and gets kinked/restricted when the dryer is shoved into position. A clog may be in the ducting past that point, between the wall and the outdoors. I may even crawl into the attic to see whats going on up there.Exactly, and find where is the outside end of the ducting to check the airflow there. |
Post# 857633 , Reply# 23   12/21/2015 at 01:08 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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I pulled the dryer out and stuck my hand in the wall duct. Yeah it was nasty. I used my brush set to get as far up as I could and pulled out more. I tried to get pictures but they didnt come out that great. I shortened the hose some and got out as much lint as I could. There was quite a pile. After that the opening seemed to be pretty large. Im running a load now to see how it does. I noticed the heating element stays on a bit longer than before and when I reached in just now, it was pretty hot in there. Hotter than before. I hope this fixed it. I also noticed the timer isnt advancing as fast as before on the automatic setting. Once I get this fixed, a new set of pulleys will be next.
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Post# 857635 , Reply# 24   12/21/2015 at 01:09 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857636 , Reply# 25   12/21/2015 at 01:15 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857637 , Reply# 26   12/21/2015 at 01:17 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857639 , Reply# 27   12/21/2015 at 01:24 (3,021 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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About 2/3 of this I pulled out by hand. The rest I dug out with the brush set.
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Post# 857640 , Reply# 28   12/21/2015 at 01:50 (3,021 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I'd bet there's more if you haven't yet reached all the way to the exit hood outside the house. Restricted airflow causes the heating element to overheat and cycle (shorter) via the limit thermostat on the heater box which results in taking longer for the drum, clothes, and exhaust air to reach the target operating temperature per the thermostat on the blower housing ... plus the impact on moving the moisture out of the load. |
Post# 857650 , Reply# 30   12/21/2015 at 06:27 (3,020 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)   |   | |
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"One way I have cleaned out a duct like you have is to use a leaf blower. Just disconnect the dryer and insert the business end of the leaf blower in the hose and let her rip. After a few minutes it'll look like it's snowing outside! " That is funny AND a good idea. Yeah, I wouldn't even bother with messing with the sensors. You've found your problem. It's in the walls and attic. You need to do a complete cleaning of those ducts, or pay someone to do it. You really need to find out for your own sense, where the duct terminates. You may need to climb on the roof. If you have a roof cap and someone had a new roof sloppily put on, they may have damaged the cap, and that is what's caused the problem. If you have a soffit vented duct, you may have birds or squirrels that have tried to nest in it, and that may be what's caused a jam. Thanks for the pictures. We really appreciate them. |
Post# 857719 , Reply# 33   12/21/2015 at 14:51 (3,020 days old) by vintage1963 (Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 857795 , Reply# 34   12/22/2015 at 02:34 (3,020 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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The way the house is set up, the roof was the only option. To the left of the laundry closet is the master bedroom closet and bath. To the right is the entry way. When I get a tall enough ladder I'll climb the roof to see which of the many pipes up there are for the vent. I was thinking of the leaf blower idea too just to get as much out as possible until I can have it professionally done. At which I'll discuss with the landlord. But all the pipes my roomie and I could see in the attic we're all intact and looked fairly new. So Im hoping the mess I pulled out that was sitting at the bottom of the duct will make an improvement for now. Thank you all for your advice. When I picked up the set he had the dryer running and it was putting out a good amount of air. I think they are a few years apart though. I'll post pics of the model labels.
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Post# 857796 , Reply# 35   12/22/2015 at 02:38 (3,020 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857797 , Reply# 36   12/22/2015 at 02:39 (3,020 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857798 , Reply# 37   12/22/2015 at 02:44 (3,020 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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This isn't exactly the set I wanted. I wanted a set with the seperate wash and spin speed options. But what I love about this set is the hot water isnt dumbed down it comes out tap hot and warm is exactly that. All the dryer will need soon are new pullys. After that's said and done, I'm gonna hang onto them for a while. Although the roomies want something water efficient, but then again, they didn't pay for it!
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Post# 857799 , Reply# 38   12/22/2015 at 02:50 (3,020 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857801 , Reply# 39   12/22/2015 at 02:55 (3,020 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857823 , Reply# 40   12/22/2015 at 08:43 (3,019 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 857863 , Reply# 41   12/22/2015 at 13:12 (3,019 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 857875 , Reply# 42   12/22/2015 at 13:53 (3,019 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 857913 , Reply# 44   12/22/2015 at 18:39 (3,019 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 857970 , Reply# 45   12/23/2015 at 02:35 (3,019 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 858184 , Reply# 46   12/24/2015 at 15:18 (3,017 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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